Do You Need This Almost $2000, High Tech Hot Plate? - You Can Do This
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- The Breville Control Freak costs $1,799.00, making it the most expensive single burner out there, but does it have the features and reliability to justify the price tag? Clifford Endo and Dave Arnold are here to find out.
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Also if your stove can't boil 2 liters of water after 30 minutes its clearly broken or you are lying.
i have a 10 year old electric stove and it takes 10 min max. this is bulshit.
I was thinking the same think, but usually I put a lid on it, whereas they didn't. I wonder how much of difference that makes?
Andrew L it makes a huge difference
I don't think it was intentional... I think it was plain ignorance and... lack of smarts.
4:50 "... I picked the burner that was closest to this one ..."
I'm pretty sure he intentionally selected a smaller burner to showcase the power/area difference. A larger burner would've been better, but the Control Freak operates with that tight heating circle and the best effort of the pan to spread that heat evenly.
Typing this makes me sad because I would spend $2000 on a pan that guaranteed 100% even heating over a larger pan surface. Given this detail, you have to turn the watts down (the number of little flame icons) and wait while still crossing your fingers that the heat spreads evenly outside of the dedicated heating area.
Damn. Just damn.
You should do a video about how shitty your stove is....
Too bad you didn't have a budget induction burner as well to see how much better the Breville is than more normal options.
Panzer_Z too expensive to buy both
They did. They covered the Buzzfeed Tasty One induction cooktop, which is cheaper and ... not really worth it. The app that comes with it is cool.
Stephen Hutchison this video is proof that the tasty pan isn’t bad. it had the same heat ring on the cast iron as did the breville.
Induction uses a coil to heat, the breville has a large 9” coil rather than a 6” coil. This means more consistent heating.
did they say they could NOT boil water on their regular stove?
Uncovered with a wide pot for high surface area, so there's a lot of evaporation working against it.
@@RiamsWorld and it has a very small element. All of these do. 120v limits.
Haha my fairly humble induction stove at home can boil 2 litres of water in around 4 minutes on the turbo mode.
Take that 2000 dollar fancy hot plate!
Rymdkakor what kind do you have
Rymdkakor what kind is it?
Thats because any real electric stove/ cooktop using a glasstop or induction uses 30 amps or more and can power through tough tasks. That Breville is limited to being plugged into a 20 amp max breaker whick means most electrical items cannot exceed 1850 watts. There is a huge difference. The Breville cannot match any stove. There are commercial induction hotplates that use higher voltage, amperage like a stove that will kick the Brevilles butt and still cost less than the Breville. I wonder what the collective corporate thinktank was thinking?
@@9999plato yeah the control freak is only 1800 watts, but most of the price comes from its ability to store programs and have a lot of functions for temperature control. None of this is really necessary and the stove is excessively expensive for most people, so only purchase it if you are a control freak. 😉
I think that must be 220V, this one here is portable so it has to be 110V since there is little chance you can find a 220V outlet, it's more about precision temperature control, as the name implies. I wish they could do tests on cooking dishes that require precise temperature holding instead of testing its power output.
My cheap induction plate just melted after a really hot pan stood on it for 15 minutes. I would definitely suggest to test, if it is capable to have an deep fry pan on top of it without melting. Besides that, test if it can be used for long periods of time baking meat or something. If it is all capable of doing that, it is definitely worth the money in my opinion.
I have to say after watching only two videos I got so much consumer advice information from the small talk between the stuff happening, it's amazing. Loving this format, buzzfeed's tasty format can suck it.
The boil time makes sense given the limitation of a 120v plug on this device. That is a HUGE disadvantage. Given that Breville has to design around a 15 amp breaker, this means that the max watts is (probably) about 1800 watts that can be put into creating heat. That is just disappointing. It has the precision, but lacks the raw power.
My Kenmore stove has an induction burner that can deliver 4100 watts in a boost mode. I have tested it for boiling water. I live in Denver so the boiling point of water is 203 degrees. With that in mind, the stove heated water from 60 degrees to a rolling boil at 203 degrees in just under 7 minutes. While my stove may not have the finesse of this burner, it has the power. Kinda sucks to not be able to have both!
haha so many ignorant comments.
- An electric coil or gas stove in a US boils 1 liter of water in 10-15 minutes. Therefore it's not unreasonable for it to take twice as long (20-30 minutes) to boil two liters, especially since the pot is uncovered. If you paid attention to physics class, higher internal pressure will lower the boiling point. So it's not unreasonable for a big wide uncovered pot with half a gallon of water to take half an hour to boil.
- I had a 1800W Duxtop (the " fancy " one with the LCD and brushed metal) and it's night and day. The Breville heats up faster, it's more consistent with temperature and on cast iron it's much more evenly spread.
- Something this review doesn't mention is how incredibly quiet this induction plate is. All the cheapo ones are noisy because they use cheaper/less durable components and smaller fans that have to turn faster (louder) to cool down the plate. The fans in the Breville also adjust speed according to need instead of running full blast like in the cheap models.
Also - there's really no middle ground for these plates. There's either really cheap ones that aren't all that great or this really expensive one that does everything you'd want. For someone who wants a decent replacement for their gas/electric range top, this does a pretty good job. The price has also come down quite a bit - it's on sale on Amazon for $1300 from time to time.
Very nice video, very informative and tested out well; but can you guys make a video of a equally as good or almost as good cheaper induction burner?.
I picked up a cheap inductor - it was about $150. Works perfectly for my needs. That is, precision temperature control.
Precision temperature control with a $150 induction cooker... I call bs. Betting you won't share your methods or brand. EIther that or you think precise temperature control means it can burn or undercook when you set the power to max or min....
Xiaomi mijia induction cooktop has temperature control and goes around 100$
Brevilles are beautiful, full stop but it’s literally the apple analog in cooking equipment.
What brands would you suggest that are generally more legit?
Do more videos with Dave. You guys make quite a team!
Love this format
whats wrong with your electric burner that took 27 mins?! mine boils a pot like that in around 10 mins
MWYANT19 with lid, they didn't use a lid
Hey Clifford, you're producing some awesome material! Love your approach and quick wit. I'm a big fan. Just a heads-up, the Maillard reaction is pronounced MY-YARD, cause it's French n' shit. My milkshakes bring all the boys to my yard ;)
Induction is the way to go. *Induction combines the best of electric (steady heat and easy cleanup) and gas (fast heat with quick on and off),* but the cost of this single burner is outrageous and unforgivable. You can buy a five burner induction cooktop for a little bit more than the cost of this single burner. Also, there is no way I would risk dragging around a $1800 burner I could easily drop on the ground. This burner seems made for confectioners and chocolatiers who need that level of temperature control, but everyday cooks don't need that much control and that dial required too many turns to adjust. With induction, water boils so fast, you better not leave the kitchen or get too involved in other things. You can keep rice warm without burning it. I think the water in their building must be pretty cold and that is why it took both pots so long to boil, but induction is much, much faster.
Being able to evenly heat my cast iron is the reason that I wanted one of these. I'm disappointed that there was a hot spot.
For that price, it should be 240 volt and 3,000 watts.
got shpilkes in the uk they are all 240 volts and 3000 watts. And start from £39.
what a turn in the career of Peregrin Took from LOTR!
FOOL OF A TOOK!
CoCoNU773R why would you use his full name, then include "LOTR"? Everyone who knows the stories will get it. Don't use exposition for the plebes of the internet
lol well sorry, english isn't my first language, "from lotr" maybe should have been "since lotr"...however everyone at some point was a "pleb of the internet", so no big deal ^^
thanks for the review, I love my Control Freak.
the cheaper one did better on the hot spot test because it took way more time to get to temperature, it allowed the heat to disperse
Only watching this for Dave Arnold...
You can boil a thin level of water in the pan and see the actual heating element size. I dont think any of these types have a large size one for a large frying pan. These work best with smaller pans for even heat distribution. I hope im wrong.
What kind of pans are those?
1000%. I will be holding out for a future technology invention called "induction coil overlapping" - ICO®️.
What heating element is on the right on the counter
I have a glass top range and it boils water in about 15 minutes. Breville pans just suck apparently.
You can afford to test a $2000 kitchen appliance but can’t afford an overhead camera? What do the scorch tests show?
How does it take 30 minutes to boil water? I boil water in a few minutes on my electric stove. What am I missing here?
KOilithya no lid
^Even no lid it takes no where NEAR 30 minutes to boil that much water in that that size pot even on my old cheap electric stove.
KOilithya my kettle is pretty quick
I have this Breville Control freak at home. I don't recommend it to anyone!! Way overpriced for the few features it has. But I must admit the cooking experience with this is unparalleled. And I've used gas, electric and other more affordable inductions stoves. The key selling point is the precision and the ease of dialing temp. Burns and boil over hasn't happened for a long time. Like a car, you have to use it to feel it. But all in all, I wouldn't buy it again because, for $1499, I expect it to at least have some smart functionalities or a touch screen. And it's been 8 years, their company seems have no plan for a 2nd gen or a one that's smart and for home use. Also another reason is because I'm waiting for a new smart burner to come out (from a company called KitchenAutomatique).
You went to sell it??? 🤓
Thanks for sharing! That KitchenAutomatique cooktop definitely looks appealing. Just join their waitlist. Not gonna bother with Breville...looks like 00s tech.
@@danielbonaparte8420 Sold already. Apparently, it's a popular item when it's at a discount.
@@chef_de_cuisine 😢
1:43 can we get a 2nd review where we a Gellar amount on each and every feature down the power cable lol
24 minutes to boil 2l of water on a stove top? Did I miss something or that's very unlikely?
I need this.
What kind of cooktop is built in?
Do you need certain types of pots / pans....eg aluminum, stainless, ceramic coated etc
Yes
Just saw the video of him roasting the Tasty one top and this one looks like a similar burn pattern 🤨
What will the price point of the Controlfeakzall be?
Wait, so does this mean that the Tasty Whatever Touch didn't have an uneven heating pattern?
I wasn't blown away with it.
serious question- would the U.S version of this product heat up slower because americans use 110V power?
yes
very interesting, thanks
This is why they don't use plug in electric kettles, they would take forever to boil. Most use a stove top kettle as stoves are hard wired for more power than is available at wall outlets. Unfortunately this is a very inefficient way of boiling water and a huge waste of resources.
Yes. All brands have the same issue.
I want 50A circuits in my kitchen.
You could almost buy a whole induction top oven for that price.
But is it portable?
I'll buy it in 10 years at some garage sale or theft store! LoL!!
I think I'd just used a normal kitchen stove and control precision temperature with a sous vide for a tenth of the price.
"The cool thing about induction"
Why not use a kettle to boil water?
You can't use a kettle for pasta
1800$ with those janky buttons AND it isn't IP67?? what happens if you boil over?
How can you test if the burner has hotspots, if it's not getting hot, but just makes the pan hot by induction?
Seems like a misleading test. The test shows the heat distribution in the pan, not the induction top. What am i missing?
The magnetic fields that occur when a pan comes in contact with induction stovetop causes the transmission of heat. If the stovetop doesn't have hotspots, the small flour particles will colour evenly throughout the surface that is in contact with the induction plate.
I agree that they should've included a control test, though.
$1800? my mid grade induction/convection stove is $2200... Methinks not. Also my stove will power boil an uncover pot of water in no time
Mine will too but it's not Portable.
This is my next purchase!!!
Just bought one of these for $1500. and did the boil test with water same pan 4KG of water starting at 65F took 19 minutes on the breville and 12:20 on GE profile glass top range that i hate needless to say im confused and disappointed!
1500 watts vs the 2000-3000 watts a large electric burner can output. The main selling point of the control freak is temp repeatability and automatic temp control. Could be addressed by making a 240v version, but that wouldn’t sell very well…
This is 120v with a very small induction burner element size. All of these types of portable cooktops have this issue.
Would it have killed you guys to do a covered boil test?
Sort of doesn't make any sense if the cast iron is storing heat much better then technically it is much more even theoretically
Not really. Thermal conductivity is different from thermal mass. A triply pan with an aluminum core will be more even due to the aluminum core but the stainless steel is what's allowing it to store heat better than pure aluminum.
i stick to gas burner for cooking.
What pans do you use?
Hector Canizales I am pretty sure they are All-Clad Stainless Steel. The handles on the pots are very distinctive.
also cast iron
looks like the cheaper one does better in the hot spot test haha great job deciding not to show the whole pan!
i mean the cheaper one took like 23525235 times more, and that`s probably why, it heated up way slower
10x more expensive than the cheapest
I have one but it smells like burnt toast when i use it.
00:54 We know you know, you should act like a typical viewer who may not know.
Creme Anglais = custard
It doesn’t take more energy to heat water as it gets harder. The specific heat is constant.
But as it gets hotter, for an uncovered pan, there's more evaporation, which is cooling it.
got a nuwave for like 200 bucks
My Nuwave Titanium Induction burner works better than that and it was only $140.
No that Nuwave does not work better than a Control Freak. I use both. The Nuwave is a low buck, low tech, low performance unit. OK for "boiling water" but it is incapable of precision cooking. It's temperature fluctuates wildly ( yes I've measured them ) to the point they're near useless for delicate cooking.
Do no one really notice ALL of his appliances are Breville? You don't find that just slightly suspicious?
Pretty much ALL of my appliances are Breville... because they make very good stuff.
Link is an affiliate link
The quality of the pan is important on an induction cooker. They should have known this. The induction "hotspot" is perfectly normal.
$7 *every* time you turn it on...
I think your electric stove is just bad
This is an infomercial.
Ah, no.
i mean everything in this kitchen is Breville it very well could be a sponsored review, or infomercial
something seems very wrong with these results
Boiling water is hardly the reason to buy a Control Freak. BTW, they cost about 1450 not 2000. 1400 on Amazon.
This is not a "hot plate". It's a high precision induction burner with NONE of the crap the cheap ones pester you with. You set this at 150 degrees, probe monitor, slow acceleration and you have control just as exact as a sous vide unit. 150 F and not 1 degree above or below. It uses a PID temperature regulator like a good SV unit does.
To discuss this unit in comparison with other induction burners is like talking about a Porsche in comparison to a Kia. Yes, the Porsche costs more. To discuss this unit in terms of how fast it can boil water is like discussing the Porsche's stereo system.
They also discussed how well it worked for creme anglais, which mainly highlights the control aspect, which is what it's best suited for.
There's really no reason that this burner couldn't be $100 eventually. I have a cheap $40 induction burner, and a separate $40 digital bluetooth thermometer that will alert me at the proper temperature. The only missing component is connecting the thermometer to the power controller inside the induction burner, and while it does take a significant effort to accomplish that task when assembling two distinctly separate components post engineering and manufacture, it would not significantly increase the effort on the initial design and manufacture. It would take a lot of money to create new tooling for mass manufacture though. So, the only reason this is $1,800 is because Breville is trying to get into the market and they need there initial offering to recoup their costs of research, development and mass manufacture. If the manufacturer of the current cheap induction burners spent an extra $10 per unit they could add a thermometer port and tie it in to a more precise power controller, with bluetooth and wifi compatibility even, but they would have to invest in new tooling.
The technology in that thing is not worth 2 grand.
Make one with this kind of robustness, and sell it to us for under whatever u think its worth.
heyyyyy!
How does this differ from my $50 Rosewill induction cooktop?
The way the Hope Diamond differs from a glass bead.
@@richardrichardsen6611 PERFECT RESPONSE
Creme Anglaise is very easy to do, just don't put your stove on supser hot, and your done, i never used a probe to get the "right" temp, and never managed to not get it right.
Reminds me of a more expensive less aesthetic tasty one top
Ridiculous, even if I was a caterer I would just use a Nuwave Pro you can control temp within 5 degrees. if they think being able to go in 1 degree increments is worth 1700.00 crazy.
My induction stove can boil water in 1 min and 30 seconds
2L of water though?
Don't tax his brain with science....
mallyard
This isn't *You can do this* it's *you can't afford this*
😂😂😂
Seems like a waste of money any way I look at it ...give it a few years it will be 600
Ok my pot can boil two liters of water in around 7 min and it was pretty cheap
4:08 "as it's getting up close to the boiling point, its taking more and more energy to heat it up" no your wrong waters actually a pretty cool liquid, one of its properties is that it takes the same amount of energy to go from 0c - 10c as it would take to go from 80c-90c. waters pretty cool
Cody Sewell I think he was trying to express the concept of the heat/enthalpy of vaporization/evaporation... It takes the same amount of heat to get the same amount of water (most liquids, I think) up each degree, but it generally takes more to get it to change phase.
All of these gadgets are irrelevant if you have an AGA cooker that heats with radiant heat. It’s shocking to me that your country has never caught on to Aga cooking. I know Martha Stewart tried for introduce it in the 1970s but it never happened. Now you’re always trying to make appliances that replicate the kind of food you get with one. Induction heating incidentally needs precision control because as you say the pan becomes the element so it’s as thought you’re exposing the food to a direct flame.
Scan End we all know Americans love to waste resources, but even they would consider an Aga unnecessarily wasteful. Then, many of them would have to spend even more to air condition all the waste heat out of their home! As a former Aga owner I love them, but there is simply no justification for spending north of £200 a month on keeping half a ton of cast iron scorching hot day and night. Plus, they always run out of heat when you need it most.
nothing can replace gas flame stoves....trust me ,we chefs know
Funny - I was more than happy to yank out my gas cooktop and replace it with induction. Far superior and no residue from combustion by-products coating your kitchen/rest of house.
First!
If you are control freak use lab equipment.
thats the name of the produced
somethings not right with this. The numbers are unrealistic. get you pans together and do the test again. with lids with a normal induction stove and if it takes 10 minutes for an indruction to boil water. somethings wrong.
The point was a stress test of a wide surface area with no lid. Yes with a smaller container and smaller amount of water and a lid it'll boil faster, but that doesn't demonstrate the power of it.
It would take way less than 10 minutes to boil 2L of water on a gas stove...
Wtf
My kettle boils water in 2 minutes it only costs $30.
ikr people in the comments like "my stove boils water in 10 minutes", not even realising that 10 minutes is 5 times longer than necessary
Or y'know, you can buy a stove?
30 min to boil water my ass. I simply don’t believe that.
The problem with you guys is that you are old school. First you try to explain that the advantage of induction is that you get instant control over the pot but on the other hand you put a cast iron on it what is heating up slowly. So use the right dish and you will get the result that you need. None of the induction cooker will work for you. However I do not argue with the fact that is way too expencive.
WTF why do you use Fahrenheit???
Aren't you by law supposed to say this is a paid advertisement? Its super obvious this is a paid ad which I understand why you would need to do it but you have to admit it.
under what legislation?
Lord Wolfie it isn't.
It would seem it depends now. But in some cases you do and youtube has features that let the viewer know its a paid advertisement. Check there ad policies. support.google.com/youtube/answer/154235?hl=en
No, you're right. This is clearly an advertisement and should have been flagged as such. Not that it's a bad product or anything.
Totally Agree!
I wish you would perform non-biased reviews of the products. I know it's for entertainment value, but it's concerning you are entering these things with the mindset of "I'M GOING TO CRUSH YOU!!!"... yes the end result is more impactful when you end up being proven wrong, but it doesn't feel like a honest result. Are you just doing it for views? Otherwise I enjoy your videos, thanks!
Yah, the answer to "do you need this?" is pretty much always "no, not unless you've got more money than sense." isn't it?