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Can you imagine if they actually change that part of the story? I’m not sure if fans will love it because they love the character or if they’ll despise it for altering the plot too heavily.
It's a joke that's gone full circle because I think people made the same comparison to Tidus from FF10 back in the day. Oh, wait. I think that was Meg Ryan. But still!
2:16 The funny thing is, that's not even 1997 silliness being preserved, that's new silliness being added in the 2020's. In the original, after Barret says a few parting words for his old friend and the father of the child he has adopted, a scene transition takes them back to the warden of the prison camp, who remarks that "maybe things will calm down around here now that you got rid of that crazy gu-" and Barret cuts off those disparaging remarks with the miniature map model equivalent of a death stare. Then Cloud takes an elevator up to the theme park's casino, wins the party's freedom in a race, and the strongman gives them the monster truck as an "I like your style, kid" parting gift.
The mood whiplash is honestly still there, just shifted. So I think its still "preserving 97 weirdness", in vibe form rather than the exact same weirdness. 😂 Like the battle rap?
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You know, it kinda slipped by me for a sec, but the fact that Yahtzee was willing to engage in a mini-game that he didn't like for the sake of preserving an NPC's feelings is actually a subtle note that it has to be doing SOMETHING right. After all, this is a man who has notoriously not given a crap about a lot of other games' MAIN characters because they just did not give him a reason to. For him to be unwilling to disappoint an NPC is an achievement in-and-of-itself.
If I remember correctly, he has said before that he hates conflict with NPCs and tends to pick the option that will make them happy, and since the protagonists are meant to do what the player tells them to, having Yahtzee be mad at them makes sense since the dynamic is different. "You're part of the world? Alright, Imma try to be pleasant so we can leave each other alone in good terms" "You're meant to be me? Then why the fuck haven't you done what I told you to, you stupid air headed bastard?!"
Result of game by corporate committee. There’s no vision, no auteur’s voice, just throwing as many mechanics and gameplay styles in as possible to cover as many bases as possible, and do it in an already established franchise to minimize risk.
Funny enough, out of all the variety of mechanics in this game the card game is something I would point out as an exception, but it was the one he didn't want to touch the most xD
Cloud Strife as a cockatiel is something i didn't know I needed but glad I have Imagine a cute little birdie holding a bird sized buster sword in between his little wings
Cloud as a Cockatiel and Sepheroth as Gwyneth Paltrow are the strangest and most hilarious visuals I've seen all week. And to some degree, both kinda fit.
I actually loved it, and from yahtzee for a final fantasy game (not even a jrpg, I have a feeling he secretly likes any jrpg that does slice of life) this was as good a reception as could have been hoped for :)
@maninblack3410 I respect your opinion but couldn't disagree more. I think the characterisation in rebirth is well done, and I like the whimsy that all the diversions and minigames add as it brings back the spirit of the origonals. Cloud is meant to be pretty damn nuts by this point so his behaviour is fine, as is the party's because they all already knew he had a screw loose. My least favorite part of the new games is the focus on zack, I played crisis core back in the day and I still don't care about him much and don't care much about his segments. That said I think they nailed it with this outing, just a shame the sales likely mean cut budget for the last game is all.
@maninblack3410 I meant more crazy outside of being directly controlled, as in he thinks he's something he isn't, I think they handle that fairly well considering how much expansion a modern game requires for character work. I actually care about him and the crew and for me that's a success. The lower sales are only surprising for the fact that square themselves seemed to expect better, which considering as you said there's no way someone could start with this game and also it's ps5 only it was inevitable. I just hope they stick the landing, the tone of the next game is going to be drastically different, and their experiments in multiverse still have the jury out for me. My main take away though is this, despite everything else it's probably the best rpg combat system I have come across welded to a cast of characters I honestly care about. The main plot and how it pans is almost cream on top in comparison :)
@@matthewmuir8884 i mean i disagree but i bet my definition of "Remake" is different from yours. A "Remake" uses its source as a base but its free to add/deviate from it as long as the skeleton/major beats are still there. To Use Rebirth as our current example Midgar -> Chocobo Farm -> Mythril Caves -> Junon etc We're still hitting the same beats even if the exact way it plays out is different A "Reimagining" to me is like how you go from Mario being a 2d Platformer to an RPG for example (Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi Games). You keep the broad strokes and constants like Mario, Peach, Bowser, Mushroom Kingdom etc but everything else changes
@@goldchampion200 Here's the definition of remake that I found after a quick search: "A remake is a film, television series, video game, song or similar form of entertainment that is based upon and retells the story of an earlier production in the same medium-e.g., a "new version of an existing film". *A remake tells the same story as the original* but may uses a different set of casts, and use actors from the original, or change the flow and setting of the story, in addition since a remake is released some time after the original work it may incorporate new technologies, enhancements, and techniques that had not existed or was commonly used when the original work was created. *A similar but not synonymous term is reimagining, which indicates a greater discrepancy* between, for example, a movie and the movie it is based on." Based on this definition, FF7R would be a reimagining, but not a remake. Your idea of a reimagining is actually called a spinoff.
@@matthewmuir8884 The first one's explicitly CALLED Remake, and considering the macro-level series of events are the same and the story is entirely based on avoiding the events of the original...remake is still accurate.
If my math is right, these "fans" are going to pay over 200 dollars for a remake of a game I've owned for 25 years. Gaming is being ruined by adult children that spend money in such asinine ways. One game. 70 bucks, made with love. Why is that so hard.
@rogue_of_the_winds1286 have you not played any of them? Cos...thinking of it as a remake is literally wrong. 😅 That was the whole point of the ending of remake, where after a game where they added a ton of content, fleshed out the bare bones original, they outright showed the intent of fate being destroyed, things being able to go different ways. And rebirth continued that. I finished ff7 agaib before playing remake, and 100%ing that game took less time than 100%ing remake. And rebirth, I hit over 100 hours of enjoyment on the first run, with more content to come on hard mode. Calling each game a third of a single game simply isnt accurate. Hell, I had fun noting how basically every other game was getting gently repped in some way. I love ff7, and it is a classic and always will be. But you seem like a real "fan". Did you react like this for dirge of cerebus? 😂
"unnecessarily prolonged perhaps, but not as much as the first game" my dumbass looked at the box art and thought "the first final fantasy game?" and then "oh he must mean the prequel to the remake of the seventh final fantasy game. but it could also be the original, seventh sequel." and now my brain is tired.
I have a lot of gripes with it but man, the combat is fantastic. Improved from Remake in several ways and shockingly varied and deep. Love the enemy designs too.
This is a really good review. I appreciate that he openly admitted he didn't like it but still put in the effort to analyze the game objectively (and succeeded).
I'm really enjoying Rebirth, but everytime I have to slowly climb up a wall, I think to myself "the PS5 has an SSD; it'd literally be faster to loading screen up the wall."
People seem to foam at the mouth now if you have an actual loading screen in a game because it ruins "immersion" or something. I'd rather have a 30 second loading screen than have to push forward while the character very slowly edges forward through a tight crevice.
Oddly enough, even though the sequence with Dyne did have me honestly tearing up, I thought it was more impactful in the original game. It felt like they tried too hard to make it a grand boss fight that they forget to keep it making sense, and I think would have been more fun if they'd kept it a smidge more grounded instead of (SPOILER)*** going all Resident Evil boss fight for no explainable reason ***(SPOILER). And while there's only a few scenes from the original game I actually remember visually vividly, one of those scenes was Barret saying "...my hands ain't any cleaner". I really wish they'd at least kept that line somewhere.
That RE part of the fight made me think. Even Barrett didn't know how Dyne was doing that. I'm not expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sephiroth had something to do with it. Had the Ever Crisis guys (who are apparently running Avalanche), into "helping" another Shinra hater that had ties to the FF7 party.
@@raulrojas9253 Can't trust Doods opinion on ANYTHING Final Fantasy. I don't know if the guy is just easily pleased, a shill, or both but if it has that Final Fantasy name on it he jizzes all over himself.
@@palladiamorsdeus he's said that ff7 is his favorite game of all time and makes no attempt to hide it. he's not a shill, he's just a fan that's heavily biased in favor of ff7
Final Fantasy VII and Stellar Blade in a short period of time, this is all good for Yahtz continuing metamorphosis into a anime fan on prom night. Seeing Yahtz infront of paintings made me think of the cover series you did at the place we shall not name.
The synergy system really brought something to the feeling of beeing in a team. In the 1st game, i could just use 1 character during many of the fights. Here there is an incentive to change characters to build atb then do a synergy attack, it's gratifying and create interactions between the characters. Same with the side quest linked to specific team member
Agreed, although in classic Square Enix fashion they did an absolutely shitup job of explaining it and I had no idea how to use Synergies properly for about half the game, playing on Dynamic, until the difficulty caught up with me and I looked it up online. Their UX team really needs to do serious work (both menus and tutorials).
@@silvercakes Yeah kinda agree on this one. Some of the wording on what the utilities of each ability are can be really confusing. Kinda had to just figure those out through trial and error. Super rewarding once I'd got my head around them though. I've only now just found out after completing the game that the descriptions under each ATB command sometimes have a little bar next them signifying how many synergy pips it gives to a character when you use them...
I noticed the same thing with the battles, and I think it's the enemies. In the first part it seems like you could get by fine just button mashing attack until everything was dead. In Rebirth sometimes they're nearly immune to physical attacks, or you have to hit them a certain way, or with a certain spell, or some characters can damage them easier than others.
Well, Yuffie (AKA Kooky Ninja Girl) WAS a fan favorite of the original FF7. At least to those who managed to find her. She was originally an optional secret unlock in FF7, which is why her transition to full team member was so convoluted in Rebirth. Its an homage to the crazy unlock conditions (involving, but not limited to, random encounters on certain map tiles and specific dialogue choices) needed to recruit her in the original.
I knew, in my heart, that Yahtz wouldn't like Rebirth. Conversely, I'm having a lovely time with it. His jabs are still hilarious, though. Swinging for the fences, with Gwyneth Paltrow as Sephiroth, was a literal laugh-out-loud moment.
Honestly, as far as games he didn't like go, this is about as glowing as it gets for him. He admits he enjoyed things and even said parts of the story were well told.
I'm honestly surprised he didn't go further in on it. Not only are there a million mini games, jimmity cock whatever open world, and other gameplay elements, but they're all so half baked that its clear they were made by hungover developers siloed in different teams who never played a single game that did every one of those mechanics better at some point. Even walking around the world is janky af. He touched on some of this, but I guess the game has its charm that can make you more readily overlook some of it.
Yeah, this is a reasonable review, and very understandable. Likewise though, having a blast, currently working through hard mode and getting all the extra monsters and such cleared.
Bro, my favorite game of all time is The Witcher 3. A game Yatzhee probably thought was bland (in terms of game design, I would hardly call the game an achievement). Sometimes, you just gotta hold your stance and accept you ain't gonna convince everyone to like what you do, for valid or invalid reasons. The real strength is when you take the criticism and still love the game for what it means to you.
GOOP being Sephiroth literally made me laugh like a hyena. Well done. EDIT- I think this was the funniest Yahtzee video in a while. Not that they aren't all entertaining, mind. Just this one managed to make me laugh out loud at least 3 times. Which is a rarity these days since life sucks and everything is awful. So, you know, thanks for topping up the joy reserve for a few more hours. Perhaps we've staved off my official meltdown for at least another day.
Just showing Gwenyth Paltrow as Sephiroth without even mentioning him caught me so off guard, I'm not sure what I expected when I saw Cloud as a parakeet.
I've seen it said in another comment section but it was bang on. This feels much more like a Yakuza game than a ffvii game. It's so chocked full of side stuff in every single area where it feels more like the side stuff is the main stuff.
@@billmore6486sure it had them but they were usually a small part of a much larger adventure and could easily be ignored. Here, much like Yakuza, the game gives you decent tangible rewards for doing all this side stuff. It's EVERYWHERE and it's practically begging you to just ignore the forward progress of the plot. The plot feels positively secondary through large chunks of the game.
@@rd-um4spNah, just the core ones. And most of those guys only jumped on ship in XIII. Most of the old crew has left and VII remakes sales numbers reflect that. Some of us have Remake a try and were disgusted so we didn't come back for Rebirth. You are spot on with the remaining fan base though and honestly I think they give the Nintendo crowd a run for their money.
@@palladiamorsdeus really bizarre to me how people get so upset at the fact that someone else likes something different. Why the animosity? I absolutely love the Remake project and both games are among my favorites of all time and I enjoy them far more than the original, and I played it when I was like 10 years old about 20 years ago. Where does this "us vs them" mindset come from? Can you not just be happy for people that are enjoying what they consider to be a brilliant recapitulation and expansion of one of their favorite childhood experiences? You don't have to enjoy it yourself, but why the dehumanizing language? Is that really necessary?
"'Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.' - Aesop's Fables A commonly used idiom, a variation of the Yiddish curse, 'May you get what you wish for.' serves as a stark warning of the unintended consequences of a seemingly idealistic outcome... Arguably popularized in modern culture by the classic 'Deal with the Devil' cinematic trope, the actualization of our most self indulgent fantasies can often achieve the exact opposite of it's intended conclusion." - Porsalin We just wanted FFVII but prettier Square. That's all we wanted. Thank God Nintendo jerked the leash with Mario RPG and it turned out exactly as it needed to be.
Whenever I see those yellow ledges in games nowadays, I flash back to LoZ Majora’s Mask where you have to climb an invisible ladder maze that you can only see using an item that drains your magic.
Back when most games were good out of necessity because they couldn't just be patched later. And the ones that were bad sank their company for the next 30 years.
I mean, you mentioned that Barrett scene and it wasn't the strongman in a red cape that pulled me out of it. It was the scene right before that which gave me tonal whiplash so hard it almost snapped my goddamn neck.
I have to agree. By the time the strongman showed up, the ridiculous mech boss fight with a stun mechanic involving a fat corporate executive waving his butt at you had already well and truly undermined the emotional weight of that Barrett scene. Shame given how well done said Barrett scene was and how frustrating the mech fight was.
I'm always confused by this take because it's meant to have tonal whiplash with palmer. The whole point Dyne death makes is that Shinra will keep coming and their plight against Shinra is insignificant and will be forgotten by an ice cream cone by those at the top of Shinra.
@@awtodor I got that and assumed it was at least somewhat intentional, I'm just mad about it. Would've helped if the party acknowledge it in some way to guide the tone. As is, it felt spliced, like some content got copy-pasted into the wrong part of the game.
So I recently went back and actually played the original ff7, and it very much clicked /why/ the game is considered a masterpiece by so many, while also giving me a better understanding of what remake part 1 was doing(I play on pc so I only a little bit of an idea how part 2 is following up, but I've heard from friends that it's doing well). The unfortunate thing is that FF7 as a story is unfortunately one that doesn't really tell you what the hell it is about until basically disc 3, with the rest of the game being a slow methodical build up until that grand reveal at the end. Even then the work up to this game's tutorial, right before the last game's cut off, the Nhibleheim flash back, is a slow burn of rising tension. From what I've seen of the remake so far, they assume people know the twist, and thus play up the dramatic irony, play up and with the clues, so that they can still hit those notes hard when they get there. While I'm not surprised Yahtzee in't a fan of the absolutely glacial pace, and odd tone shifts, I am glad that the team at least has a unity of vision, and seem to know what they want to do. They also understand the characters well which is not true of a lot of ff7 spin off media.
I went into The Witcher 3 feeling about Gwent the same way as Yahtzee, but it turned out to be one of my favorite parts of the game. Partly because that's where the most intense "fights" and last-second turning of tables happen, not so much in the actual combat.
Honestly, if anything they made the Dyne scene less traumatic as they cut out Dyne killing himself and warning Barrett to never ever make Marlene cry just before he does, they also cut out Barrett remarking how he's no more worthy to hold Marlene because he has blood on his hands too. I dunno why they cut this out and just transitioned to a stale Dyne dies to a last stand but it really cut the weight of the moment.
I think the beginning of this finally gets at what bothered me about the remakes from an angle I hadn’t considered too closely: at the opening of Rebirth you’ve already found and fought Sephiroth, so now you’re just going through the motions.
I was confused about who this "Manic Pixie girl B" was until Yathzee talked about the ninja joining the party as Mani Pixie Girl C. Turns out he was talking about Wholesome Childhood Friend A all along! (which is funny because the one who is *actually* a childhood friend is the Manic Pixie Girl A who wears a dominatrix cross fit outfit).
Maybe it's just me, but I got the vibe that manic pixie dream girl A and manic pixie dream girl B were way more into each other than either of them was into the male lead. Also the one dressed like a crossfit dominatrix is constantly acting all gentle and wholesome and nurturing and stuff, while the one in the pretty floral gown who sells flowers is kinda fucked up actually.
One of the things that FFVII seems to be fondly remembered for, and that people were pleasantly surprised S-E actually remembered, is that a lot of the characters have hidden depths that are the opposite of the stereotype they appear to be, like the boxing tomboy being sweet at heart while the pretty elegant priestess is actually hard as nails at her core.
@@maninblack3410 That's not really accurate. The original was rife with terrible pacing and issues in the story telling. Don't let the nostalgia goggles blind you to think is was a great game. People wouldn't have been clamoring for a remaster/remake so much if it was actually really good. They would have been satisfied with it. Instead, they got obsessed with how almost good it was, andreally wanted Square to redo it and hopefully fix those issues.
@@maninblack3410 Maybe in certain fan communities you might struggle to find that. I've played through OG twice in the past 5 years. Once without mods, once with graphical and New Threat 2.0 mods, even watched full streams of it with a couple of different creators alongside those playthroughs and I fully agree with what @paladin181 said. The combat in OG doesn't present much challenge, most of the minigames feel incredibly clunky and a good chunk of the towns just feel like places to pick up your next level of gear and move on, without having much of a sense of being lived in and only a barebones sketch of their history and place in the world, even if you speak to every single NPC there. Didn't feel that way at the time (think it was 1999 when I first played it) but as time went on and games became more expansive and ambitious in scope, I wanted to see a more fully realised version of that world and it's characters. This was further amplified by watching Advent Children (even if the dialogue and storytelling in AC can get pretty rough at points). OG FFVII was my favourite game of all time but this is the best it has ever been for me personally
Thank God someone validates me on how I feel about Queen's Blood (I don't have a problem, shut up). It's not that the game exists. Even though it's not really for me, the puzzle sections are really fun. But it's just that the game wants to force it on you at several points. In the Dustbowl for getting the greens needed to progress, I only found two of the options for getting greens before I found the QB section so I spend an hour losing over and over because I have done literally nothing with QB and now feel forced to win three matches. That's just bad design for anyone who is focusing on the story.
To give you an idea of just how much Squeenix plans on milking this thing for all it's worth, remember that the OG FFVII was a three-disc game. Then realize that we're two parts into the remake and _we're still not even at the end of the first disc yet._
Its a trilogy, one game left. The three disks had nothing to do with game length, the entire game is on all three disks (a fact speedrunners are well acquainted with). It was because of the huge filesize of the FMVs that it had to be split up.
I was at a loss for now Zero Punctuation when I saw this pop up on a twitter post and found out what happened. Glad to see you are back in a new form. I gotta catch up with these new ZP types now lol.
I always felt that the plot of -most- final fantasy games leaves you wondering what the character's actual plan is... sometimes you have a goal, but no idea how to accomplish it, and sometimes you know what you're doing, but you have no idea why. In the moment it can be hard to notice, because you're ricocheting from one dramatic set piece to the next like a pinball, and that's very distracting... but if I ever sit down and think to myself "so where are we going and why again?" I'm left with very little to hold onto. The majority of the original FF7 has me this way, especially the middle. We need to find Sephiroth... for some reason maybe... but we have no idea where he is, and no direction or goal other than "well there's more unexplored areas that way" Weirdly, FFX is the one game in the series where I never had that feeling. While I didn't really like most of the characters, I DID know what they were trying to do and *why* for about 90% of the game - and so did all of the characters. Except Tidus, who's excuse is that he's an idiot.
Padded. Not huge, padded. It barely has story content in it at all and what there is constantly contradicts itself or inserts pole holes they don't care to correct or address because "look at the pretty graphics".
The partial squat reminds me of a trend that existed when I was growing up where women took pictures doing a collective partial squat because standing straight was too normal or something, so they collectively decided to be different at the exact same time and in the exact same way.
3:54 You should start selling figurines / plushies of your representation of the Party Members here, they're just as charming as the Polygonal ones Squenix did. Though I'd imagine it might be difficult getting Gwyneth Paltrow to sign off of being Sephiroth's head.
While I like the game a lot, including Queen's Blood and the goofier bits, I do mostly agree about the tonal whiplash during Barret's big scene, although not the particulars. Dio didn't bother me, it was the slapstick fight against Palmer that I had a problem with. I know they needed to stick it in somewhere, since they cut Rocket Town, but they should have put it in a better place.
Appreciate the reference to "Frank" with the mache mask. I am hoping that a Semi-Remblomatic is released explaining why the wild tone shifts and mini games aren't working here for you when you seem to be either accepting of or amused by them in Yakuza or Suda51 games. It would be a great addition to your game theory essays, like your issues with the character and plot frictions shown in games like Horizon 2.
The middle part of this game is what I call the Fantasy Road Trip narrative. Not as contrived as the McGuffin Hunt, but at least in that case, you have an overt reason to be at each location. The actual "plot" plot doesn't kick in again until you get to the Ancient Temple in this case, though at least most of the cast gets at least one good character arc. This solidifies me in "old fart" territory, but this is one of the reasons I prefer FF6 to 7. Your primary goal changes every location or two as the plot develops.
Revive, Restart, Renew, Read-this-please-this-is-a-cry-for-help. Maybe they're taking a page from Atlus and only releasing FF XVII when they remake VII, XVI times.
Yahtzee, I am so glad I found you again. My life was riddled with turmoil for almost like 4 months. And now to hear that you finished your third book in one of my favorite series of books. Thanks for being alive.
The fact you had Frank Sidebottom’s paper mache head as Manic Pixy Dream Girl #2’s face is a true testament to Yahtzee’s upbringing as a British child of the 80s 😅
I still haven't played this yet and agree that the glacial pace with which they're hitting the market is ruining their coherence and chance of success. But I did also recently replay IX which made a fair attempt at slicing up it's gameplay in different/distinct ways across its 4 disks, which you couldn't do evenly then because of space limitations. And it did make me wonder if they've taken a similar approach to this internally at Square Enix. Cram all Midgar and a linear story into one disk/game, do an open world game with different mechanics where you're going around the world map (disc 2 of the OG), then presumably we have a walking simulator with 84 hours of FMVs coming in the third game before one fight with Sephiroth that has 26 stages and that's your lot.
I absolutely loved this game, but I do think it really needs to say on the box, in big red letters "YOU MUST PLAY THE ORIGINAL TO UNDERSTAND THIS CRAP"
I'll be honest, I did play the original and a lot of this crap still doesn't make any sense. Why are we throwing boxes as Cait Sith when we have a man with a gun arm?
Yeah. I bought FF7Remake because I thought a remake of FF7 would be a great starting point; instead, I got a weird timeline-sequel-reimagining game that may as well have held up a big neon sign saying, "Come back after you've played FF7!"
5:24 "It really looks like they're farting" Thats what I see every time, and my eyes roll so hard I give myself a headache. How anyone finds that cute I will never know.
Now i'm thinking of the Buggy Saints Row song. "Bullets blasting, cops are smarting. It kind-of looks like we're both farting." ua-cam.com/video/9l_YN-yRCVY/v-deo.html
4:08 - Wait, swapping their Materia around? Did the remakes not keep the Exchange system, which lets you just swap Materia 1-to-1 with another party member?
3:15 Don’t you mean a brain damaged cockatiel? (This joke is really funny btw, as someone who used to have budgies this is fucking funny, I actually laughed at it.)
When they finally finish all of the remake six games from now, I wonder if they'll release a single compilation game with all of them stuck together. How many discs would that need, I wonder?
2:25 reminds me of how in the family guy episode where Brian dies after he gets hit by the car and is lying on the pavement all mangled up a squirrel walks up and spits on him and says “hated that guy”
Just started FF7 Remake and my biggest frustration is he often control is taken away out throttled. You can run! 2 second current of catching up to character. You can s l o w l y patter along to chat. Then they run ahead and you can jog(?) to squeeze through an unnecessary alleyway
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Gwyneth Paltrow’s head as the face of Sephiroth made my brain turn into goop
I see what you did there.
Also, I actually laughed out loud.
It gave me a tickle in *my* nether regions
You... Clever... Commenter...
It's also a callback to his FF7 Renake EP1 video
Sephiroth branded Jade Eggs
I told Audible Yahtzee sent me and they dropped me through the crocodile trapdoor
"WRONG LEVERRRrrrrrrrr..."
@@RatchetSly oh they knew what lever it was 😂
@@wesleythomas7125 Amazon: For people sent here by Yahtzee, obviously.
They sent me back in time and forced me to retreat through the Burmese swamp with the ijn in 1945. So pretty much the same experience
@@wesleythomas7125 BECAUSE I DESERVE SOMETHING TODAY!
I will now be disappointed if "Yatzee's ice cream" isn't on the next quarterly expenses.
if not, we riot
Second Wind, more like Second Scoop
Yahtzee's Ice Cream: accountant says still no.
It will be disguised as "research materials"
Plot Twist: You're an IRS agent and you just want an excuse to audit his ass.
Every Cloud has its silver lining. In this case the silver lining is Sephiroth's massive katana.
Oh, is that what they're calling it now?
It's a masamune, not a katana.
Aerith Has Left Chat.
Can you imagine if they actually change that part of the story? I’m not sure if fans will love it because they love the character or if they’ll despise it for altering the plot too heavily.
@@Andrew_TS weebs
"Sephiroth looks like Gwyneth Paltrow" is one of my favorite Yahtzee jokes and I'm glad it's being kept fresh.
It's not just her face, but the fact it's her smug, self-satisficed face that nails it.
It's a joke that's gone full circle because I think people made the same comparison to Tidus from FF10 back in the day. Oh, wait. I think that was Meg Ryan. But still!
@@EmperorSethYeah, Tidus was always Meg Ryan IIRC, which is also fitting since Meg Ryan is far less malicious than Gwyneth Paltrow.
@@EmperorSeth Oh snap he totally does, never saw that joke.
Ya know, since the game is going the multiverse route, seeing a Gwyneth Paltrow universe Sephiroth really doesn't sound too bad an idea.
2:16 The funny thing is, that's not even 1997 silliness being preserved, that's new silliness being added in the 2020's. In the original, after Barret says a few parting words for his old friend and the father of the child he has adopted, a scene transition takes them back to the warden of the prison camp, who remarks that "maybe things will calm down around here now that you got rid of that crazy gu-" and Barret cuts off those disparaging remarks with the miniature map model equivalent of a death stare. Then Cloud takes an elevator up to the theme park's casino, wins the party's freedom in a race, and the strongman gives them the monster truck as an "I like your style, kid" parting gift.
Thanks for reminding me of that F@(&ing moment! Fine, I'll buy it again on Switch. I never get tired of replaying old FF games anyway...
2:17
The mood whiplash is honestly still there, just shifted. So I think its still "preserving 97 weirdness", in vibe form rather than the exact same weirdness. 😂
Like the battle rap?
@@FFKonoko the WAT
@@FFKonoko they put it in the wrong order though so it comes off even worse done
It's anime silliness and jrpgs are basically interactive anime
Let Yahtzee expense his ice cream, Nick!
Only if I get to expense my Mtn Dew!
@@SecondWindGroup obviously you should-editors can’t caffeinate themselves! It’s a necessity for getting stuff done.
@@SecondWindGroupWell, that only seems fair.
@@tedweird Noooo, my mother can't see where my salary is going!
@@SecondWindGroup There's actually been people who have managed to write off caffeine on their taxes. As someone who did myself, turns out third-shift really does get a lot better with energy drinks. :P
You know, it kinda slipped by me for a sec, but the fact that Yahtzee was willing to engage in a mini-game that he didn't like for the sake of preserving an NPC's feelings is actually a subtle note that it has to be doing SOMETHING right. After all, this is a man who has notoriously not given a crap about a lot of other games' MAIN characters because they just did not give him a reason to. For him to be unwilling to disappoint an NPC is an achievement in-and-of-itself.
And he praised the Dyne sequence!
If I remember correctly, he has said before that he hates conflict with NPCs and tends to pick the option that will make them happy, and since the protagonists are meant to do what the player tells them to, having Yahtzee be mad at them makes sense since the dynamic is different.
"You're part of the world? Alright, Imma try to be pleasant so we can leave each other alone in good terms"
"You're meant to be me? Then why the fuck haven't you done what I told you to, you stupid air headed bastard?!"
@Kreiser_VII a fair point, though I do not recall him saying that, it is entirely possible that as a primarily ZP and FR viewer that I just missed it.
I've noticed that "about a mile wide and an inch thick" is a good description for almost every currently available AAA game.
Baldur’s Gate 3
And inch THIN, actually!
Result of game by corporate committee. There’s no vision, no auteur’s voice, just throwing as many mechanics and gameplay styles in as possible to cover as many bases as possible, and do it in an already established franchise to minimize risk.
Funny enough, out of all the variety of mechanics in this game the card game is something I would point out as an exception, but it was the one he didn't want to touch the most xD
@@LeeorVardi BG3 isn't AAA: a game needs a major publisher to be AAA, because it's mostly a gauge of easy access to credit and marketing.
Cloud Strife as a cockatiel is something i didn't know I needed but glad I have
Imagine a cute little birdie holding a bird sized buster sword in between his little wings
It's literally in the game, of course.
You haven’t seen Cloud Jr I take it.
I enjoyed when Yahtz cast himself as Cockatiel Cloud's new boyfriend
Now picture Cockatiel Cloud riding a Chocobo.
And then you have Sephiroth as the red birb going "YeuYeuYeuYeuYeuYeu *STARE SOUND*"
Cloud as a Cockatiel and Sepheroth as Gwyneth Paltrow are the strangest and most hilarious visuals I've seen all week. And to some degree, both kinda fit.
You got that right.
It's so good. Yahtzee's sense of humor never disappoints.
I'm just imagining a little cocktail with a buster sword. lol.
Wasn’t there a a mini section of the game where there’s a bird that exactly looks like cloud and they’re poking fun of him because it looks like him?
Summary: the best reviewed final fantasy game yahtzee has ever played. "And take that for the massively qualified praise that it is. "
Honestly, it's pretty effusive praise for a JRPG by Yahtzee's standards.
I actually loved it, and from yahtzee for a final fantasy game (not even a jrpg, I have a feeling he secretly likes any jrpg that does slice of life) this was as good a reception as could have been hoped for :)
@maninblack3410 I respect your opinion but couldn't disagree more. I think the characterisation in rebirth is well done, and I like the whimsy that all the diversions and minigames add as it brings back the spirit of the origonals. Cloud is meant to be pretty damn nuts by this point so his behaviour is fine, as is the party's because they all already knew he had a screw loose.
My least favorite part of the new games is the focus on zack, I played crisis core back in the day and I still don't care about him much and don't care much about his segments. That said I think they nailed it with this outing, just a shame the sales likely mean cut budget for the last game is all.
@maninblack3410 I meant more crazy outside of being directly controlled, as in he thinks he's something he isn't, I think they handle that fairly well considering how much expansion a modern game requires for character work. I actually care about him and the crew and for me that's a success.
The lower sales are only surprising for the fact that square themselves seemed to expect better, which considering as you said there's no way someone could start with this game and also it's ps5 only it was inevitable.
I just hope they stick the landing, the tone of the next game is going to be drastically different, and their experiments in multiverse still have the jury out for me.
My main take away though is this, despite everything else it's probably the best rpg combat system I have come across welded to a cast of characters I honestly care about. The main plot and how it pans is almost cream on top in comparison :)
+1 for Walrus accuracy
Goo Goo Gjoob!
fibsh
You know he enjoyed making that noise a little too much.
For what it's worth, this IS the remake of the game that ended up naming "Sidetracked by the Gold Saucer."
@@michaeljohnson6905 Don't know that yet.
At least i'm not convinced yet.
@@goldchampion200 All the timeline/multiverse stuff means it's not a remake; at best, it can be called a reimagining.
@@matthewmuir8884 i mean i disagree but i bet my definition of "Remake" is different from yours.
A "Remake" uses its source as a base but its free to add/deviate from it as long as the skeleton/major beats are still there.
To Use Rebirth as our current example
Midgar -> Chocobo Farm -> Mythril Caves -> Junon etc
We're still hitting the same beats even if the exact way it plays out is different
A "Reimagining" to me is like how you go from Mario being a 2d Platformer to an RPG for example (Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi Games).
You keep the broad strokes and constants like Mario, Peach, Bowser, Mushroom Kingdom etc but everything else changes
@@goldchampion200 Here's the definition of remake that I found after a quick search:
"A remake is a film, television series, video game, song or similar form of entertainment that is based upon and retells the story of an earlier production in the same medium-e.g., a "new version of an existing film". *A remake tells the same story as the original* but may uses a different set of casts, and use actors from the original, or change the flow and setting of the story, in addition since a remake is released some time after the original work it may incorporate new technologies, enhancements, and techniques that had not existed or was commonly used when the original work was created. *A similar but not synonymous term is reimagining, which indicates a greater discrepancy* between, for example, a movie and the movie it is based on."
Based on this definition, FF7R would be a reimagining, but not a remake.
Your idea of a reimagining is actually called a spinoff.
@@matthewmuir8884 The first one's explicitly CALLED Remake, and considering the macro-level series of events are the same and the story is entirely based on avoiding the events of the original...remake is still accurate.
Man, I can't wait until the Final Fantasy 7 reboot is finally finished. See you guys around 2030 for that glorious day.
If my math is right, these "fans" are going to pay over 200 dollars for a remake of a game I've owned for 25 years. Gaming is being ruined by adult children that spend money in such asinine ways. One game. 70 bucks, made with love. Why is that so hard.
Final Fantasy?
I thought this was the prelude to Kingdom Hearts 4
@@rogue_of_the_winds1286 ...You good?
@rogue_of_the_winds1286 have you not played any of them?
Cos...thinking of it as a remake is literally wrong. 😅
That was the whole point of the ending of remake, where after a game where they added a ton of content, fleshed out the bare bones original, they outright showed the intent of fate being destroyed, things being able to go different ways.
And rebirth continued that.
I finished ff7 agaib before playing remake, and 100%ing that game took less time than 100%ing remake. And rebirth, I hit over 100 hours of enjoyment on the first run, with more content to come on hard mode.
Calling each game a third of a single game simply isnt accurate. Hell, I had fun noting how basically every other game was getting gently repped in some way.
I love ff7, and it is a classic and always will be. But you seem like a real "fan". Did you react like this for dirge of cerebus? 😂
If Part 3 is able to be developed in a similar amount of time as Rebirth (about 3 years), then it should be out in 2027. We’ll see though
Using the Frank mask for Tifa is an excellent deep cut
I KNEW I recognised it. Thank you.
"unnecessarily prolonged perhaps, but not as much as the first game"
my dumbass looked at the box art and thought "the first final fantasy game?" and then "oh he must mean the prequel to the remake of the seventh final fantasy game. but it could also be the original, seventh sequel." and now my brain is tired.
Wouldn't the prequel to the remake of the seventh Final Fantasy game technically be the remaster of crisis core?
Why was it this confusing for you? This is the second part in a trilogy, not exactly tough to keep up with
@@cashnelson2306He's mocking Square Enix for milking the FF7 sub series too much
This pretty much matches my memory of the middle of the original FFVII.
He's just forgetting that giant worm that screws you over, and it would perfectly sum up my middle game experience.
Yep the remake of the middle portion did not fix the pacing issues it always had but highlight it in 4K HD
@@NotFunctional-ever You mean you weren't meant to grind until you could kill the meat gate only to be told, "Yo, the plot is that way"? =)
Can’t wait for FFVII: Afterbirth.
final fantasy 7: still birth
Final fantasy 7: abortion
Final fantays 7: the cringy emo punk teen phase
Final Fantasy 7 Repentance when
Or Birth By Sleep... oh wait
FFVII: Regurgitation
I have a lot of gripes with it but man, the combat is fantastic. Improved from Remake in several ways and shockingly varied and deep. Love the enemy designs too.
This is a really good review. I appreciate that he openly admitted he didn't like it but still put in the effort to analyze the game objectively (and succeeded).
seems to me he enjoyed it despite some flaws
I'm really enjoying Rebirth, but everytime I have to slowly climb up a wall, I think to myself "the PS5 has an SSD; it'd literally be faster to loading screen up the wall."
People seem to foam at the mouth now if you have an actual loading screen in a game because it ruins "immersion" or something.
I'd rather have a 30 second loading screen than have to push forward while the character very slowly edges forward through a tight crevice.
what if you pressed the button to climb the wall and the game just faded out and faded up to the party being on top of the wall
The old resident evil opening door loading screen was brilliant.
Don't forget how slow the Chocobo stop repair process is.
Death to loading screens!
Squeezing through crevices forever!
Oddly enough, even though the sequence with Dyne did have me honestly tearing up, I thought it was more impactful in the original game. It felt like they tried too hard to make it a grand boss fight that they forget to keep it making sense, and I think would have been more fun if they'd kept it a smidge more grounded instead of (SPOILER)*** going all Resident Evil boss fight for no explainable reason ***(SPOILER). And while there's only a few scenes from the original game I actually remember visually vividly, one of those scenes was Barret saying "...my hands ain't any cleaner". I really wish they'd at least kept that line somewhere.
That RE part of the fight made me think. Even Barrett didn't know how Dyne was doing that.
I'm not expecting it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sephiroth had something to do with it. Had the Ever Crisis guys (who are apparently running Avalanche), into "helping" another Shinra hater that had ties to the FF7 party.
Bless you for using Gwyneth Paltrow as the template for Sephirot. That made my day
Seems almost fitting that Maximilian Dood's final review/thoughts on FF7 Rebirth and Yahtzee's FR were both uploaded to youtube on the same day
Inside You There Are Two Wolves:
and max was predictable "Love it 10 out 10" While at least yatzee...hmm you know I still don't like it.
Can't take Max opinion about FF 7 seriously.
@@raulrojas9253 Can't trust Doods opinion on ANYTHING Final Fantasy. I don't know if the guy is just easily pleased, a shill, or both but if it has that Final Fantasy name on it he jizzes all over himself.
@@palladiamorsdeus brother you do realize he was critical of FF16?
@@palladiamorsdeus he's said that ff7 is his favorite game of all time and makes no attempt to hide it. he's not a shill, he's just a fan that's heavily biased in favor of ff7
Final Fantasy VII and Stellar Blade in a short period of time, this is all good for Yahtz continuing metamorphosis into a anime fan on prom night. Seeing Yahtz infront of paintings made me think of the cover series you did at the place we shall not name.
That triggered a memory for me.
Not yet, he's still using "manic pixie dream girl" instead of "waifu".
That walrus sound was precious
The synergy system really brought something to the feeling of beeing in a team. In the 1st game, i could just use 1 character during many of the fights. Here there is an incentive to change characters to build atb then do a synergy attack, it's gratifying and create interactions between the characters. Same with the side quest linked to specific team member
Agreed, although in classic Square Enix fashion they did an absolutely shitup job of explaining it and I had no idea how to use Synergies properly for about half the game, playing on Dynamic, until the difficulty caught up with me and I looked it up online. Their UX team really needs to do serious work (both menus and tutorials).
@@silvercakes Yeah kinda agree on this one. Some of the wording on what the utilities of each ability are can be really confusing. Kinda had to just figure those out through trial and error. Super rewarding once I'd got my head around them though. I've only now just found out after completing the game that the descriptions under each ATB command sometimes have a little bar next them signifying how many synergy pips it gives to a character when you use them...
I noticed the same thing with the battles, and I think it's the enemies. In the first part it seems like you could get by fine just button mashing attack until everything was dead.
In Rebirth sometimes they're nearly immune to physical attacks, or you have to hit them a certain way, or with a certain spell, or some characters can damage them easier than others.
I like how it's a common conception that Red is Barret's dog. Abridged has wormed its way into the zeitgeist
Talking dog best friend
@@brianmckee2267 OH MY GOD WERE BEST FRIENDS?!?
Well, Yuffie (AKA Kooky Ninja Girl) WAS a fan favorite of the original FF7. At least to those who managed to find her. She was originally an optional secret unlock in FF7, which is why her transition to full team member was so convoluted in Rebirth. Its an homage to the crazy unlock conditions (involving, but not limited to, random encounters on certain map tiles and specific dialogue choices) needed to recruit her in the original.
I told Audible Yahtzee sent me and they gave me a surcharge.
I knew, in my heart, that Yahtz wouldn't like Rebirth. Conversely, I'm having a lovely time with it.
His jabs are still hilarious, though. Swinging for the fences, with Gwyneth Paltrow as Sephiroth, was a literal laugh-out-loud moment.
Honestly, as far as games he didn't like go, this is about as glowing as it gets for him. He admits he enjoyed things and even said parts of the story were well told.
I'm honestly surprised he didn't go further in on it. Not only are there a million mini games, jimmity cock whatever open world, and other gameplay elements, but they're all so half baked that its clear they were made by hungover developers siloed in different teams who never played a single game that did every one of those mechanics better at some point. Even walking around the world is janky af. He touched on some of this, but I guess the game has its charm that can make you more readily overlook some of it.
Yeah, this is a reasonable review, and very understandable.
Likewise though, having a blast, currently working through hard mode and getting all the extra monsters and such cleared.
Bro, my favorite game of all time is The Witcher 3. A game Yatzhee probably thought was bland (in terms of game design, I would hardly call the game an achievement).
Sometimes, you just gotta hold your stance and accept you ain't gonna convince everyone to like what you do, for valid or invalid reasons. The real strength is when you take the criticism and still love the game for what it means to you.
I mean... he doesn't really LIKE many games now, does he? That's kind of his thing
Thank you, I needed someone else to notice that Tifa dresses like a sport dominatrix.
She's a crossfit coach, which is basically the same thing.
GOOP being Sephiroth literally made me laugh like a hyena. Well done.
EDIT- I think this was the funniest Yahtzee video in a while. Not that they aren't all entertaining, mind. Just this one managed to make me laugh out loud at least 3 times. Which is a rarity these days since life sucks and everything is awful. So, you know, thanks for topping up the joy reserve for a few more hours. Perhaps we've staved off my official meltdown for at least another day.
I had a weird night last night, so seeing this helped brighten my day!😄💖
Squeenix Pissing about: re-queef
I love this game and yet, this is exactly what I both expected and wanted Yahtzee's review to be.
Just showing Gwenyth Paltrow as Sephiroth without even mentioning him caught me so off guard, I'm not sure what I expected when I saw Cloud as a parakeet.
Even Brentalfloss pointed out the minigame overload of the original. A good chunk of Final Fantasy VII With Lyrics was just about the minigames
Sephiroth being depicted as Gwyneth Paltrow is killing me (in a good way 🤣)
Nick, you better approve that tub of Ice Cream!
3:34 "...in the sense that Nicolas Cage is a good actor. It's only true about half the time."
THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SENSE
Yeah, people praise Nicolas just a bit too much.
I've seen it said in another comment section but it was bang on. This feels much more like a Yakuza game than a ffvii game. It's so chocked full of side stuff in every single area where it feels more like the side stuff is the main stuff.
Ff used to be all about silly mini games in ps1 ps2 era
@@billmore6486sure it had them but they were usually a small part of a much larger adventure and could easily be ignored. Here, much like Yakuza, the game gives you decent tangible rewards for doing all this side stuff. It's EVERYWHERE and it's practically begging you to just ignore the forward progress of the plot. The plot feels positively secondary through large chunks of the game.
This is probably my favorite episode of the new series so far. Great job everyone
Yeah, the editing was particularly on point
I'll wait for the third one to come out and play all 3 at once.
I'll just play a modded version of the original, atleast there they did'nt ruined the Aeris death
I don't think even the most die-hard fan could stomach 250+ hours of this uninterrupted.
you underestimate FF fans. They're only slightly better than nintendo fans. Which is not saying much.
@@rd-um4spNah, just the core ones. And most of those guys only jumped on ship in XIII. Most of the old crew has left and VII remakes sales numbers reflect that. Some of us have Remake a try and were disgusted so we didn't come back for Rebirth.
You are spot on with the remaining fan base though and honestly I think they give the Nintendo crowd a run for their money.
@@palladiamorsdeus really bizarre to me how people get so upset at the fact that someone else likes something different. Why the animosity? I absolutely love the Remake project and both games are among my favorites of all time and I enjoy them far more than the original, and I played it when I was like 10 years old about 20 years ago. Where does this "us vs them" mindset come from? Can you not just be happy for people that are enjoying what they consider to be a brilliant recapitulation and expansion of one of their favorite childhood experiences? You don't have to enjoy it yourself, but why the dehumanizing language? Is that really necessary?
"'Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.' - Aesop's Fables
A commonly used idiom, a variation of the Yiddish curse, 'May you get what you wish for.' serves as a stark warning of the unintended consequences of a seemingly idealistic outcome... Arguably popularized in modern culture by the classic 'Deal with the Devil' cinematic trope, the actualization of our most self indulgent fantasies can often achieve the exact opposite of it's intended conclusion." - Porsalin
We just wanted FFVII but prettier Square. That's all we wanted. Thank God Nintendo jerked the leash with Mario RPG and it turned out exactly as it needed to be.
Whenever I see those yellow ledges in games nowadays, I flash back to LoZ Majora’s Mask where you have to climb an invisible ladder maze that you can only see using an item that drains your magic.
Back when most games were good out of necessity because they couldn't just be patched later. And the ones that were bad sank their company for the next 30 years.
5:24 You heard him, Modders. You know what to do.
I mean, you mentioned that Barrett scene and it wasn't the strongman in a red cape that pulled me out of it. It was the scene right before that which gave me tonal whiplash so hard it almost snapped my goddamn neck.
I have to agree. By the time the strongman showed up, the ridiculous mech boss fight with a stun mechanic involving a fat corporate executive waving his butt at you had already well and truly undermined the emotional weight of that Barrett scene. Shame given how well done said Barrett scene was and how frustrating the mech fight was.
I'm always confused by this take because it's meant to have tonal whiplash with palmer.
The whole point Dyne death makes is that Shinra will keep coming and their plight against Shinra is insignificant and will be forgotten by an ice cream cone by those at the top of Shinra.
@@awtodor I got that and assumed it was at least somewhat intentional, I'm just mad about it. Would've helped if the party acknowledge it in some way to guide the tone. As is, it felt spliced, like some content got copy-pasted into the wrong part of the game.
So I recently went back and actually played the original ff7, and it very much clicked /why/ the game is considered a masterpiece by so many, while also giving me a better understanding of what remake part 1 was doing(I play on pc so I only a little bit of an idea how part 2 is following up, but I've heard from friends that it's doing well).
The unfortunate thing is that FF7 as a story is unfortunately one that doesn't really tell you what the hell it is about until basically disc 3, with the rest of the game being a slow methodical build up until that grand reveal at the end. Even then the work up to this game's tutorial, right before the last game's cut off, the Nhibleheim flash back, is a slow burn of rising tension. From what I've seen of the remake so far, they assume people know the twist, and thus play up the dramatic irony, play up and with the clues, so that they can still hit those notes hard when they get there.
While I'm not surprised Yahtzee in't a fan of the absolutely glacial pace, and odd tone shifts, I am glad that the team at least has a unity of vision, and seem to know what they want to do. They also understand the characters well which is not true of a lot of ff7 spin off media.
I went into The Witcher 3 feeling about Gwent the same way as Yahtzee, but it turned out to be one of my favorite parts of the game. Partly because that's where the most intense "fights" and last-second turning of tables happen, not so much in the actual combat.
Honestly, if anything they made the Dyne scene less traumatic as they cut out Dyne killing himself and warning Barrett to never ever make Marlene cry just before he does, they also cut out Barrett remarking how he's no more worthy to hold Marlene because he has blood on his hands too.
I dunno why they cut this out and just transitioned to a stale Dyne dies to a last stand but it really cut the weight of the moment.
I think the beginning of this finally gets at what bothered me about the remakes from an angle I hadn’t considered too closely: at the opening of Rebirth you’ve already found and fought Sephiroth, so now you’re just going through the motions.
I was confused about who this "Manic Pixie girl B" was until Yathzee talked about the ninja joining the party as Mani Pixie Girl C. Turns out he was talking about Wholesome Childhood Friend A all along!
(which is funny because the one who is *actually* a childhood friend is the Manic Pixie Girl A who wears a dominatrix cross fit outfit).
Maybe it's just me, but I got the vibe that manic pixie dream girl A and manic pixie dream girl B were way more into each other than either of them was into the male lead.
Also the one dressed like a crossfit dominatrix is constantly acting all gentle and wholesome and nurturing and stuff, while the one in the pretty floral gown who sells flowers is kinda fucked up actually.
One of the things that FFVII seems to be fondly remembered for, and that people were pleasantly surprised S-E actually remembered, is that a lot of the characters have hidden depths that are the opposite of the stereotype they appear to be, like the boxing tomboy being sweet at heart while the pretty elegant priestess is actually hard as nails at her core.
@@sindrisuncatcher653 …Well now you’ve convinced me to check it out. They should put you on the marketing team.
@@maninblack3410 That's not really accurate. The original was rife with terrible pacing and issues in the story telling. Don't let the nostalgia goggles blind you to think is was a great game. People wouldn't have been clamoring for a remaster/remake so much if it was actually really good. They would have been satisfied with it. Instead, they got obsessed with how almost good it was, andreally wanted Square to redo it and hopefully fix those issues.
@@maninblack3410 Maybe in certain fan communities you might struggle to find that. I've played through OG twice in the past 5 years. Once without mods, once with graphical and New Threat 2.0 mods, even watched full streams of it with a couple of different creators alongside those playthroughs and I fully agree with what @paladin181 said. The combat in OG doesn't present much challenge, most of the minigames feel incredibly clunky and a good chunk of the towns just feel like places to pick up your next level of gear and move on, without having much of a sense of being lived in and only a barebones sketch of their history and place in the world, even if you speak to every single NPC there. Didn't feel that way at the time (think it was 1999 when I first played it) but as time went on and games became more expansive and ambitious in scope, I wanted to see a more fully realised version of that world and it's characters. This was further amplified by watching Advent Children (even if the dialogue and storytelling in AC can get pretty rough at points). OG FFVII was my favourite game of all time but this is the best it has ever been for me personally
Thank God someone validates me on how I feel about Queen's Blood (I don't have a problem, shut up).
It's not that the game exists. Even though it's not really for me, the puzzle sections are really fun. But it's just that the game wants to force it on you at several points. In the Dustbowl for getting the greens needed to progress, I only found two of the options for getting greens before I found the QB section so I spend an hour losing over and over because I have done literally nothing with QB and now feel forced to win three matches. That's just bad design for anyone who is focusing on the story.
To give you an idea of just how much Squeenix plans on milking this thing for all it's worth, remember that the OG FFVII was a three-disc game.
Then realize that we're two parts into the remake and _we're still not even at the end of the first disc yet._
Facts. And they've been milking the FF7 franchise a lot already
Most plot was in disc one tho. In disc 2, it's mostly the open world thing. Disc 3 is only for final fight
They have long since said it would be three parts. Half the reason the OG needed three discs was the extremely long cut scene at the end of the game.
The third disc was half ramp up to fighting Sephiroth, and half Knights of the Round and train animations for during the fight with him.
Its a trilogy, one game left. The three disks had nothing to do with game length, the entire game is on all three disks (a fact speedrunners are well acquainted with). It was because of the huge filesize of the FMVs that it had to be split up.
The manic pixie dream girls making fists and squatting! I haven’t played the game but I can totally see that. I exactly what that squat looks like.
I was at a loss for now Zero Punctuation when I saw this pop up on a twitter post and found out what happened. Glad to see you are back in a new form. I gotta catch up with these new ZP types now lol.
If this version of Sephiroth started selling crystals or alternative health products, I’d be interested!
I always felt that the plot of -most- final fantasy games leaves you wondering what the character's actual plan is... sometimes you have a goal, but no idea how to accomplish it, and sometimes you know what you're doing, but you have no idea why. In the moment it can be hard to notice, because you're ricocheting from one dramatic set piece to the next like a pinball, and that's very distracting... but if I ever sit down and think to myself "so where are we going and why again?" I'm left with very little to hold onto.
The majority of the original FF7 has me this way, especially the middle. We need to find Sephiroth... for some reason maybe... but we have no idea where he is, and no direction or goal other than "well there's more unexplored areas that way"
Weirdly, FFX is the one game in the series where I never had that feeling. While I didn't really like most of the characters, I DID know what they were trying to do and *why* for about 90% of the game - and so did all of the characters. Except Tidus, who's excuse is that he's an idiot.
Padded. Not huge, padded. It barely has story content in it at all and what there is constantly contradicts itself or inserts pole holes they don't care to correct or address because "look at the pretty graphics".
It was seeing Cloud the parakeet siezuring on the floor that did it for me.
The partial squat reminds me of a trend that existed when I was growing up where women took pictures doing a collective partial squat because standing straight was too normal or something, so they collectively decided to be different at the exact same time and in the exact same way.
And now I have the Inspector Gadget theme song stuck in my head. Thanks a lot Yahtzee!
The fact that Cloud is a Cockatiel's head made me laugh so hard and I just can't unsee it now!
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You should start selling figurines / plushies of your representation of the Party Members here, they're just as charming as the Polygonal ones Squenix did.
Though I'd imagine it might be difficult getting Gwyneth Paltrow to sign off of being Sephiroth's head.
Nice to see the very much missed Frank Sidebottom making a cameo.
The phrase “K-pop Data from Star Trek” will haunt me for the rest of the day.
Oh thank god someone else thought there was an obscene over abundance of Mini games.
It was done to make up for the lack of them in FF16. That game was a desert compared to Rebirth.
yeah, but way less than in the ps1 ff7, so it is lacking
Fun to see Frank Sidebottom joining the crew... he's missed.
Using a cockatiel's head for Cloud has got to be the greatest FF joke anyone has ever come up with.
Thank you for confirming whether this one is 2 or 3
It's been years, and I STILL can't believe they split the game apart like this.
.hack did this on PS2 first, so this is actually a remake of a demake
Surprised Sephiroth didn't intervene in the making of this video.
While I like the game a lot, including Queen's Blood and the goofier bits, I do mostly agree about the tonal whiplash during Barret's big scene, although not the particulars. Dio didn't bother me, it was the slapstick fight against Palmer that I had a problem with. I know they needed to stick it in somewhere, since they cut Rocket Town, but they should have put it in a better place.
I mean…he’s actually made me want to play this more than I was already hyped about 😂
Appreciate the reference to "Frank" with the mache mask. I am hoping that a Semi-Remblomatic is released explaining why the wild tone shifts and mini games aren't working here for you when you seem to be either accepting of or amused by them in Yakuza or Suda51 games. It would be a great addition to your game theory essays, like your issues with the character and plot frictions shown in games like Horizon 2.
How dare you question the capabilities of Cage.
Yahtzee's funniest review hands down. I've never seen him hit it off so well just talking about a remake.
The middle part of this game is what I call the Fantasy Road Trip narrative. Not as contrived as the McGuffin Hunt, but at least in that case, you have an overt reason to be at each location. The actual "plot" plot doesn't kick in again until you get to the Ancient Temple in this case, though at least most of the cast gets at least one good character arc.
This solidifies me in "old fart" territory, but this is one of the reasons I prefer FF6 to 7. Your primary goal changes every location or two as the plot develops.
Can’t wait for Final Fantasy VII Revamped, Revitalization and lastly regression
Don't forget Retirement and Return. Possibly followed by Reimagined, Restored, and Rewound.
Revive, Restart, Renew, Read-this-please-this-is-a-cry-for-help.
Maybe they're taking a page from Atlus and only releasing FF XVII when they remake VII, XVI times.
There's even more!
FF 7 Resuscitated, Reestablished, Reloaded, Regurgitated, Resold and finally, Rest in Piece
All these, and noone said the actual final part, reunion. 😅
Reunion is after Rest-In-Piece though, so that checks out.
Every fart is the tune of good fortune, delivering a whiff of all our hopes and dreams.
The choice of that bird head for Cloud is inspired
Man I love Final Fantasy 7 Party
Yahtzee, I am so glad I found you again. My life was riddled with turmoil for almost like 4 months. And now to hear that you finished your third book in one of my favorite series of books. Thanks for being alive.
The fact you had Frank Sidebottom’s paper mache head as Manic Pixy Dream Girl #2’s face is a true testament to Yahtzee’s upbringing as a British child of the 80s 😅
I still haven't played this yet and agree that the glacial pace with which they're hitting the market is ruining their coherence and chance of success. But I did also recently replay IX which made a fair attempt at slicing up it's gameplay in different/distinct ways across its 4 disks, which you couldn't do evenly then because of space limitations. And it did make me wonder if they've taken a similar approach to this internally at Square Enix. Cram all Midgar and a linear story into one disk/game, do an open world game with different mechanics where you're going around the world map (disc 2 of the OG), then presumably we have a walking simulator with 84 hours of FMVs coming in the third game before one fight with Sephiroth that has 26 stages and that's your lot.
I've never heard someone describe Tifa as a "Crossfit themed dominatrix" and yet I can't think of a better description for her attire.
"Kooky moo" is temporarily my new favorite thing Yahtzee has ever said.
I absolutely loved this game, but I do think it really needs to say on the box, in big red letters "YOU MUST PLAY THE ORIGINAL TO UNDERSTAND THIS CRAP"
oh yeah, more people need to now this isn't a REPLACEMENT for the original and you really ned to play the original game to get the full experience
I'll be honest, I did play the original and a lot of this crap still doesn't make any sense. Why are we throwing boxes as Cait Sith when we have a man with a gun arm?
@@weclock Gotta do something to make the new guy on the team feel valuable.
you don't tho. My friends played it without playing OG and enjoyed it. Just had an extra sense of mystery to it
Yeah. I bought FF7Remake because I thought a remake of FF7 would be a great starting point; instead, I got a weird timeline-sequel-reimagining game that may as well have held up a big neon sign saying, "Come back after you've played FF7!"
Already bought it! Damn, that was a long wait for the last book in the trilogy!
5:24 "It really looks like they're farting" Thats what I see every time, and my eyes roll so hard I give myself a headache. How anyone finds that cute I will never know.
Now i'm thinking of the Buggy Saints Row song. "Bullets blasting, cops are smarting. It kind-of looks like we're both farting."
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4:08 - Wait, swapping their Materia around? Did the remakes not keep the Exchange system, which lets you just swap Materia 1-to-1 with another party member?
I cannot unsee the manic pixie dream girl farting next time I play a FF7 jockstwat episode
3:15 Don’t you mean a brain damaged cockatiel?
(This joke is really funny btw, as someone who used to have budgies this is fucking funny, I actually laughed at it.)
When they finally finish all of the remake six games from now, I wonder if they'll release a single compilation game with all of them stuck together. How many discs would that need, I wonder?
just one, made of paper, with a download code on it.
The nature of that end joke seems very reminiscent of how older Zero Punctuation reviews used to finish.
2:25 reminds me of how in the family guy episode where Brian dies after he gets hit by the car and is lying on the pavement all mangled up a squirrel walks up and spits on him and says “hated that guy”
Just started FF7 Remake and my biggest frustration is he often control is taken away out throttled.
You can run! 2 second current of catching up to character. You can s l o w l y patter along to chat. Then they run ahead and you can jog(?) to squeeze through an unnecessary alleyway