Lots of misinformed comments on this thread. The SAS took no part in the raid. GSG-9 did ask for advice prior to the operation from an SAS operative in Somalia but no SAS member took part in the raid on the aeroplane. Very professional operation from the GSG-9.
The GSG-9 did not ask for advice. The SAS offered help to desperate politicans of the the German interiour ministry wich welcomed any consulting. The GSG-9 itself was not asked. A SAS man introduced the GSG-9 leader (Wegner) a SAS strategy, but Wegner rejected the strategy wich included the use of stun grenades. The stun grenades could by Wegners opinion cause a fire and also panic in the plane. With panicking passengers there would have been no room for action of the special forces.
@@alexanderchan76 Nope, no SAS have been involved by this operation. There was also no stun grenade involved, this idea was rejected by the leader of the GSG9 team. The hostages have been overpured with hard alcohol and the alcohol could have been inflamed by stun granades.
@@alexanderchan76 It wasnt a stun granade and no SAS took part in the operation, it was simply an explosion that was set at around 200m far from the plane, as a distraction so that the terrorists would look to the front of the the plane and outside the cockpit while the GSG9 men storm the plane, btw the plane wasnt only entered via the doors like you see in the video.
@@meganoob12 Genau. Einer derjenigen, die die vorderen Türen beim Sturm öffneten, hatte einen Halsdurchschuss abbekommen. Das einzig andere, was aus den Interviews hervorging war, dass Wegener selbst beim Sturm in der Maschine war und einen Schusswechsel mit dem Attentäter hatte, der die Handgranate fallen ließ. Hier steht er "nur" unter dem Flieger und hält Funkkontakt.
THis was the first public appearance of them, they were litterally building the unit from scratch and didnt have much in the way of specialised equipment at the time.
@@JohnDoe-kv3cm as far as I know, Wegener gave his protective west to one of of the guys who went into the plane. That man took a hit from one of the terrorists. And the west he got from Wegener stopped the bullet.
Rainbow Six.. the old ones, how much i cried over losing agents in there. Im not a fan of using reserve units when you can have the top guys on the go. He
Well Munich was a disaster, they tried fo free the hostages with traffic cops, no special unit existed back then and the help the Bundeswehr offered was rejected due to some ridiculous laws which said the Bundeswehr must not be used at home.And last but not least it was state controlled event not federal cos the Bavarians insisted on it and they had the law on their side, back then so the Federel Government backed of.After that disaster though, the Bavarians had no qualms letting the Federal Government deal with the blowback
@Anonym Please Well I must tell that Munich changed everything. Today it would be in the hands of the federal government and the GSG9 (a federal police unit) would be tasked with the solution
Meine Lehrerin und ihr Sohn waren in dem Flugzeug. Das war für beide ein traumatisches Erlebnis. Bei allen Dokus wir immer vergessen : wie erging und geht es den Opfern. Und das es immer die Opfer sind, welche dann keine Hilfe bekommen.
Germany ❤ from Mogadishu Somalia. In the past they thank to us but at the present we thank a lot to them. Prophet Muhammad says: who doesn't thank to people doesn't thank to Allah " as Arabic "من لا يشكر الناس لا يشرالله"
Little known to this day. The Somalis surrounded the GSG9 aircraft when they wanted to travel home to germany after the operation. They suddenly found themselves allied with the terrorists who were killed. The GSG9 Commander then positioned the GSG9 fully armed with all the snipers in front of the aircraft There was almost a fight with many dead.
That tense moment occurred because the German government had lied to the Somali government by saying that all terrorists were German, which they knew was not true of course. The Somalis were a bit pissed off because they feared problems with Arab countries and especially Arab terrorist groups who might have taken revenge against them. Somalia is also Muslim country you have to know. So the information about the origin of the terrorists was not so irrelevant at all in diplomatic terms.
Sehr gut dargestellt. Ich habe mir greade die doku von terra x angesehen und vieles wurde hier geteilt getreu umgesetzt wir z.B. der Satz „Köpfe runter!" Ich bin sehr beeindruckt!👍🏻
Auch eine andere Sache wurde unterschlagen und bis heute wenig bekannt. Die Somalis umstellten das Flugzeug der GSG9 als diese heimreisen wollten. Wegner lies darauf auch die GSG9 bewaffnet vors Flugzeug positionieren und standen sich gegenüber. Die Somalis sahen sich mit den PLO Terroristen verbündet. Deutschland zahlte später reichlich Entwickelungshilfe ( 30 Millionen)
@@matzemuller6468 Bereits vorher sympathisierten die Somalis mit den Terroristen und wollten die GSG9 nicht landen lassen, versperrten mit Tankwagen die Landebahn. Laut Lufthansa Vorstand damals W. Utter, lies man für Entwickelungshilfe und ein neues deutsches Flughafenfeuerwehrfahrzeug die GSG 9 dann doch kurzfristig landen. Nach der Befreiung schwenkten die Somalis erneut um 9: 00 min watch?v=G3AX5vXpY5c .
"Everyone played a certain role in it. I looked into the history of the German special forces in the army archives, I looked into the history of the Brandenburgers and the English with Stirling, the forerunners of the SAS. But none of it fit because the tasks were completely different. The Israelis were always my role model, and they were the ones who, despite this traumatic experience that they also went through, were immediately ready to help us." -Ulrich Wegener
now is not fail state it is recovering from civil war. we hope we shall stand our feet sooner.. somalia is rich country u may end up in somalia one day searching jobs..
Haha, I like your sense of humour.I tell you what, I and the rest of the world we would be content if Somalia would become a proper state again and kicked out the whole bunch of terrorists currently residing there.Good luck with that
Conrad Dev I have seen Deadliest Warrior, and still unsure how accurate the results were when paired up against S.W.A.T. But still, respect for GSG9 in “from what I heard of” a successful hostage situation
The GSG guys didn't even wear combat uniforms, only dress pants and normal shirts with camoflaged faces and armed with pistols. I might say this probably even better than the Iranian Embassy raid.
Ja die waren in Hamburg und die Deppen von Politikern haben den Einsatzbefehl nicht gegeben. Erst als die Cobra dann das eine Haus klar gemacht hat, war Ruhe im Schiff. Die hätten sofort mit 20 SEK Beamten diese bekloppte Rote Flora und den Schwarzen Block auseinandernehmen sollen.
Würde Mogadishu zur heutigen Zeit stattfinden würde es zu keinem Einsatz der GSG9 kommen. Man würde die Gefangenen austauschen - die (Ampel-) Regierung ist Erpressbar!
Helmut Schmidt hat damals in Hamburg schon bewiesen das er führen konnte.wäre die befreiung damals schiefegegangen,hat er gesagt,das er dann die verantwortung übernommen hätte.
in real life the grenade didnt explode to a faulty fuze which saved allot of people in otherr hostage situations aswell b the way for example in the irianian embassy siege
IT did. In Interviews with the gsg9 members in a Doku. They said that The granade wasnt wearing splitter or something, and because of that, IT didnt made much damage. Iam german and Saw 2 Dokus and Interviews about it
@@klecksy laber kein scheiss bei der granate handelte es sich um eine sovietische F1 splittergranate eine der höchstgeladenenen granaten die im umlauf sind die stweardess sas genau neben dem ding und starrte es 5 sekunden an und war dann gott froh als nix passierte
@@Ahornblatt2000 Yeah I know lol I'm saying I only clicked because I saw the GSG-9, didn't expect any movie. What's going on in this scene confuses me haha
@@justinf.3293 und haben meist ne viel zu hohe durchschlagskraft in kombination mit geringerer kadenz und hohem rückstoß - ausserdem ist das nachladen unglaublich ineffektiv
@@Ahornblatt2000 ganz normale pistolen - revolver sind in den meisten armeen nichtmehr verwendet und bei den meisten SpezKr nie verwendet worden. Die spezifikationen sind, wie bereits in meinem anderen kommentar erwähnt, einfach ungünstig
Actually it was realistic.One of the GSG-9 members remembered the moment, he told the grenade this greanede wasn't in a steel shell like it's supposed to be so there were no shrapnells only the explosiv charge.Otherewise there would have been some dead people and a lot injured
All nothing much of interest just the normal hijacker lingo Do this or I kill you, do that or I shoot you, I kill if........, Shut up or we'll burn you.Back then in the 70s there wasn't so much Allahu Akhbar that came later
It is actually understandable if you only know English. There are sub titles of speech in English and most of talking on plane is in English. Interesting film that co pilot really did well he said in interview he had no sleep at all during the hijack. yet still managed to safely fly and land the plane after a sand landing. With added presure of seeing the captain killed and being the only pilot. Seriously anyone would of expected anyone under so much presure to mess up.
"Not enough rate of fire " I highly doubt that would be the reason, the mp5 has great ROF (but a little on the higher end) the main reason is more likely to be that there is no reason to take handgun cartridges and put them in a rifle when you can just use rifle cartridges.............
But it's true.It happened in 1977 back then the special units didn't have the high tech stuff they have nowadays.Even the armor vests, today standard were new high tech stuff back then
@@nikitaeurope as a Somali person we must thank to Germany and Angel Melkal and all Germany people. Because Germany isn't like USA. ❤ Germany From Mogadishu. 🙏🙏🙏
@@AbdirizakHAdan Thank you for your very positive message. Sorry for getting so aggressive. It is just a little weird to me that people tend to want the praise of other peoples accomplishments but when things go wrong they want nothing to do with it. This action could have easily gone wrong and in that case no one would have wanted the blaim. Wagner and his team had practiced this type of rescue missions over 900 times in the previous 2 years. So wat seams like a miracle is actually the result of very hard work and being well prepared. And the Somali police / Army did help by lighting a fire near the tower to confuse the hijackers right before the Germans stormed the ✈ plane. Anyway thank you very much for your positivity. Totally understandable that you might see it different but Merkel is no Angel. She is the worst Chancellor that Germany has ever had. She is corrupt and very incompetent. And sadly she is damaging the country with her stupidity. 😃
Yes back then, the RAF formed a clear counterweight. Back then, normal society did not want to be radical left. Now in peacetime they join the antifa because they are bored and ignore the past.These people are more privileged than ever, but do not appreciate it and want to rebel.
meinen Respekt an alle deutschen Spezialkräfte,ich zieh meinen Hut vor euch!!!ich frag mich immer wie diese Leute in dem linksgrünen Einheitsbrei von Politik und Medien heute noch Motivation finden
because that is what they used at that time, in 1977, they went in with standard body armor and a 6 shot revolver each. They used only pritty basic stuff back then.
Once again there were no SAS operators, how often do I have to tell it? Wegner himself said it so many times there were no SAS guys charging the plane, they just lend some blend grenades to the Germans.Blend grenades were cutting edge back then
@@Ahornblatt2000 Tu mir einen Gefallen und lese dir die Interviews von Wegener zu dem Thema noch mal gut durch. Die SAS hatte Blendgranaten angeboten und Wegener hat sich entschieden das er die gar nicht wollte. Man sieht doch ganz deutlich das hier nirgendwo eine Blendgranate benutzt wird. Die SAS hatte ausserdem Ideen eingebracht wie man denn vorgehen könnte oder sollte. Auch die Ideen der SAS hat Wegener abgelehnt und sich für seine eigene Taktik entschieden. Das heißt die GSG9 und die SAS waren damals miteinander im Gespräch. Die GSG9 war noch ganz neu und hat wahrscheinlich gerade mal 2 Jahre existiert. Das man dann gerne mit Kollegen im Ausland kommuniziert und sich liebend gerne anhört wie andere Dienste mit so einer Situation umgehen finde ich eine logische Sache. Aber dieses Getöse das ein Teil des Erfolgs irgendwie mit der SAS zu tun hätte ist schon reichlich lächerlich. Es ist sehr wahrscheinlich das die GSG9 auch regelmäßigen Kontakt hatte mit anderen ausländischen Diensten. Ziemlich sicher sogar mit den Israelis. Entebbe war gerade mal 1,5 Jahre her und davon konnte man sehr viel lernen. Kein anderer Dienst oder Land macht sich jedoch so lächerlich als die Engländer mit ihrem SAS Gedöns was man ständig einbauen will obwohl die Leute gar nichts damit zu tun hatten. Erfolg hatte viele Väter. Weil die Aktion perfekt verlaufen ist will man mitgeholfen haben. Wenn die Aktion ein Disaster geworden wäre dann würde kein Engländer auf den Gedanken kommen zu erzählen die SAS hätte irgendwie mitgeholfen und es läge bestimmt daran das man die Ideen und Vorschläge der SAS befolgt hat. Übrigens hat Stauffenberg für sein Attentat auf Hitler im Juni 1944 Englischen Sprengstoff mit einer ungewöhnlichen Art von Zündung verwendet. Wie toll das geklappt hat wissen wir ja alle. Da kommt doch bisher niemand in England auf den Gedanken das Attentat wäre so enorm in die Hose gegangen weil der englische Sprengstoff totaler Mist war. Auf jeden Fall hat die deutsche Armee keinen Grund um englisches Material zu benutzen. Als ob Deutschland nicht selber im Stande wäre um funktionierenden Sprengstoff zu produzieren oder eigene Ideen zu entwickeln. Diese Übereifrigkeit mit der die Engländer die SAS mit einbauen wollen ist reichlich lächerlich.
@@Ahornblatt2000 Weil ich ganz einfach mit dir kommunizieren wollte und nicht mit denen. Ich mag es das du dir die Zeit nimmst um denen die korrekte Information bei zu bringen, aber es gibt im Netz sehr viele Leute wo man Hundert mal hintereinander die korrekte Info ausführlich beschreiben kann und die es ganz einfach nicht kapieren wollen. Ich stecke da meine Zeit nicht rein wenn ich das Gefühl habe ich müsste mit Idioten diskutieren die eine Situation gar nicht begreifen wollen sondern steifköpfig drauf beharren das ihr Märchen die richtige Version sein muss. Das erinnert mich sehr an Sawsan Chebli die einen US Amerikaner dessen Eltern christliche Kopten sind die aus Ägypten fliehen mussten weil Sie wegen ihrer christlichen Religion verfolgt wurden, zum grossen Stolz für die gesamte islamische Welt erklärt weil er einen Oscar gewonnen hat für die Rolle von Freddy Mercury in Bohemian Rapsody. Sich mit den Federn von anderer Leute Arbeit schmücken zu wollen ist echt ein ganz beschissenes Niveau. Ich glaube nicht daran das lange Diskussionen mit solchen Leuten etwas bringen. Jemand der es nicht begreifen will wenn man ihm die korrekte Version darlegt der wird es auch nicht begreifen wollen wenn man ihm 100 Mal die korrekte Version vorhält. Also ich kommuniziere dann lieber mit jemand der eine ähnliche Meinung hat. Also du solltest dich nicht angegriffen fühlen wenn Leute ganz einfach mit dir quatschen wollen. Wie gesagt Respekt für jeden der diesen Dumbos die korrekte Version erklärt aber es gibt auch Leute wo das ganz einfach Zeitverschwendung ist.
What they failed to mention is that the gsg 9 asked for SAS assistance so 2 sas troopers flew over and also they took newly developed at time flash bangs.
And what you failed to mention is that the SAS suggested to storm through only one door to prevent friendly fire but Wegener hat much confidence in his guys and they went through multiple doors simultanously. But thanks for the flash bangs they were really cutting edge back then. And no SAS took part, Wegener mentioned 1000 times
I just read a part in a book I’m reading “The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces” by David Miller and It says there was stun grenades thrown and that there were at least 2 SAS members there so idk who’s right.
Like I already said-Wegener himself told that there were no SAS man involved in storming the plane. He said they met 2-3 days before where they were shown the blend grenades which had been all the rage by then, by the SAS, which he took. He also said that the SAS advised him to storm the plane only through one door in order to prevent friendly fire but Wegner deceided otherwise going in through all doors simultanously. If the SAS had taken part they would have been credited with it, I mean it's not something you have to keep secret when you help to secure some innocent civilians
@@Ahornblatt2000 yeah I agree with your explanation I think I was just trying to say there is supported evidence of the other explanation but it looks like the author got some things messed up. Good thing we have the internet today so we can cross reference and help each other out.
+George Maverick Failed? That was a success.No hostages killed except for the Pilot who was shot day of two before, and all terrorists were shot, three of them deadly.So what do you want? Do you know what Wegner said about the SAS? SAS insisted that the GSG-9 only uses 1 door when charging because of friendly fire but Wegner let his boys charge through all doors and that was key for the success
+Steve Mario If he didn't board the plane how could he kill one of the terrorists?There were no SAS-members in the assault team, Wegner has always denied it.I believe it's Frederick Forsyth fault, he wrote in one of his novels that 2 SAS man went in, even first but that is bullshit.I don't get why you guys insist so hard on that detail.Don't you think the German government wouldn't not thank your government and the SAS openly?
SAS again! Oh man that is a legend There were no SAS guys present they met them day or two before they stormed.The SAS gave them the flashbangs but I don't know if was used within the carrier or outside.Wegnere even disregarded their advice to go through only one door, he chose to go through all doors simultanously
![ZDF Reportage am Montag - GSG-9 [02.01.1984]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7wMKC_ReFDQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Seeing the German GSG9 unit taking out one terrorist after another within seconds to save the passengers is very satisfying.
Das nenne ich eine professionelle Spezialeinheit 🇩🇪💪🏻
Na-im Gegensatz zu den Amis werden die bei uns ja auch ausgebildet
@@Paddymysterio1 Ich würde das swat team der USA nicht als unausgeblidet bezeichnen
@@LS-Moto die werden trainiert alles zu töten was sich bewegt das ist keine ausbilung
Lots of misinformed comments on this thread. The SAS took no part in the raid. GSG-9 did ask for advice prior to the operation from an SAS operative in Somalia but no SAS member took part in the raid on the aeroplane. Very professional operation from the GSG-9.
The GSG-9 did not ask for advice. The SAS offered help to desperate politicans of the the German interiour ministry wich welcomed any consulting. The GSG-9 itself was not asked. A SAS man introduced the GSG-9 leader (Wegner) a SAS strategy, but Wegner rejected the strategy wich included the use of stun grenades. The stun grenades could by Wegners opinion cause a fire and also panic in the plane. With panicking passengers there would have been no room for action of the special forces.
An SAS man threw the stun grenade that blinded those in the cockpit.
@@alexanderchan76 Nope, no SAS have been involved by this operation. There was also no stun grenade involved, this idea was rejected by the leader of the GSG9 team. The hostages have been overpured with hard alcohol and the alcohol could have been inflamed by stun granades.
@@alexanderchan76 It wasnt a stun granade and no SAS took part in the operation, it was simply an explosion that was set at around 200m far from the plane, as a distraction so that the terrorists would look to the front of the the plane and outside the cockpit while the GSG9 men storm the plane, btw the plane wasnt only entered via the doors like you see in the video.
A SAS Sergeant led the raid, and he also entered the aircraft.....
Gott segne unsere GSG9 - Helden
Apart from when they killed a ton of the Red Army Faction
@@fivesageger6651 Wolfgang Grams commited suicide. It‘s meanwhile 100 procent evidented.
dessen Segen brauchen die nicht! Das machen die schon selber!
@@heppoify49 stimmt schon. Glaube diese Männer haben so viel drauf dass ein segen ein ehr Risiko wäre
Psychisch kranke Einzeltäter? Hat nichts mit der Religion zu tun?🤯🤯
GSG-9 one of the most badass Special Law Enforcement Unit (1 shot = 1 kills).
They only shot about 6 times ever I belive
@@cyma1178 that is a myth - they only shot LETHAL 6 times
Their overall shot count is much higher
Its still mad impressive though
@@Di3cy Police Units are better at stuff like that
American Police. 1 shot = 3 innocent civilians.
Name?
Ich glaube nicht, daß dieser Ausschnitt nur annähernd zeigen kann, wie es wirklich war. Aber es war so. Unglaublich!
wenn sie die echte operation feuerzauber gezeigt hätten dann wäre das für die grenzschutzgruppe jetzt nicht mehr so einfach
@@drucker-herum-treiber wurde nicht ein GSG9 Mitglied angeschossen? Das ist der einzige Fehler der mir jetzt aufgefallen ist.
@@meganoob12 Genau. Einer derjenigen, die die vorderen Türen beim Sturm öffneten, hatte einen Halsdurchschuss abbekommen. Das einzig andere, was aus den Interviews hervorging war, dass Wegener selbst beim Sturm in der Maschine war und einen Schusswechsel mit dem Attentäter hatte, der die Handgranate fallen ließ. Hier steht er "nur" unter dem Flieger und hält Funkkontakt.
wie heisste der film?
@@chiko32100 Mogadishu
Federal Chancellor Helmut Schmidt and GSG-9 commander Ulrich Wegener had balls of steel.
Men had balls back then.
It was more the rule than the exception.
Unfortunately, in today's world not so much.
Facts.
1970's stuff was so cool, I miss it so much.
From the planes, to the chancellor's office/residence to the cars, clothing, everything.
I usually see GSG9 wearing full swat gear but this is quite cool
THis was the first public appearance of them, they were litterally building the unit from scratch and didnt have much in the way of specialised equipment at the time.
@@JohnDoe-kv3cm also it was 1977. "swat gear" came much later
@@JohnDoe-kv3cm as far as I know, Wegener gave his protective west to one of of the guys who went into the plane. That man took a hit from one of the terrorists. And the west he got from Wegener stopped the bullet.
3:28 The old Rainbow Six go code always plays in my head as i see this, the classic "Go, Go GO"!
Rainbow Six.. the old ones, how much i cried over losing agents in there. Im not a fan of using reserve units when you can have the top guys on the go. He
Apparently, the Germans had learned from Munich ;)
Oh yes....thankfully back to old efficiency after that horrible debacle in Munich...so that stuff like that won't happen again.
The American Crusader oh yes... luckily, this was the beginning of the end of RAF terror. It was a good decision not to negotiate with the terrorists
Well Munich was a disaster, they tried fo free the hostages with traffic cops, no special unit existed back then and the help the Bundeswehr offered was rejected due to some ridiculous laws which said the Bundeswehr must not be used at home.And last but not least it was state controlled event not federal cos the Bavarians insisted on it and they had the law on their side, back then so the Federel Government backed of.After that disaster though, the Bavarians had no qualms letting the Federal Government deal with the blowback
it's actually what happened, GSG9 is an elite SWAT team created to counter these incidents
@Anonym Please Well I must tell that Munich changed everything. Today it would be in the hands of the federal government and the GSG9 (a federal police unit) would be tasked with the solution
Helmut Schmidt 🥰
Meine Lehrerin und ihr Sohn waren in dem Flugzeug. Das war für beide ein traumatisches Erlebnis. Bei allen Dokus wir immer vergessen : wie erging und geht es den Opfern. Und das es immer die Opfer sind, welche dann keine Hilfe bekommen.
Germany ❤ from Mogadishu Somalia.
In the past they thank to us but at the present we thank a lot to them.
Prophet Muhammad says: who doesn't thank to people doesn't thank to Allah " as Arabic "من لا يشكر الناس لا يشرالله"
allah is gay
@@ang47 shut up u pig
Thank you for saying that! 💌
Little known to this day. The Somalis surrounded the GSG9 aircraft when they wanted to travel home to germany after the operation. They suddenly found themselves allied with the terrorists who were killed. The GSG9 Commander then positioned the GSG9 fully armed with all the snipers in front of the aircraft There was almost a fight with many dead.
That tense moment occurred because the German government had lied to the Somali government by saying that all terrorists were German, which they knew was not true of course. The Somalis were a bit pissed off because they feared problems with Arab countries and especially Arab terrorist groups who might have taken revenge against them. Somalia is also Muslim country you have to know. So the information about the origin of the terrorists was not so irrelevant at all in diplomatic terms.
Geiler Film mit Super Besetzung.
Eine super Leistung der GSG9
Feuerzauber. Herrlich.
Sehr gut dargestellt. Ich habe mir greade die doku von terra x angesehen und vieles wurde hier geteilt getreu umgesetzt wir z.B. der Satz „Köpfe runter!" Ich bin sehr beeindruckt!👍🏻
Politkorrekt wie immer bei den Öffis, wurde der legendäre Spruch der GSG9 bei der Erstürmung unterschlagen, nämlich:
"Wo sind die Schweine?"
... der auch vollkommen gerechtfertigt war. Es leben die Kameraden der GSG 9 und ihr unvergessener Kommandeur Ulrich Wegener!
Auch eine andere Sache wurde unterschlagen und bis heute wenig bekannt. Die Somalis umstellten das Flugzeug der GSG9 als diese heimreisen wollten.
Wegner lies darauf auch die GSG9 bewaffnet vors Flugzeug positionieren und standen sich gegenüber. Die Somalis sahen sich mit den PLO Terroristen verbündet. Deutschland zahlte später reichlich Entwickelungshilfe ( 30 Millionen)
@@Marvel66666 Danke für die Info.
@@Marvel66666 Interessant. Hast du dazu zufällig eine Quelle parat? Finde leider nichts im Netz.
Danke. :-)
@@matzemuller6468 Bereits vorher sympathisierten die Somalis mit den Terroristen und wollten die GSG9 nicht landen lassen, versperrten mit Tankwagen die Landebahn. Laut Lufthansa Vorstand damals W. Utter, lies man für Entwickelungshilfe und ein neues deutsches Flughafenfeuerwehrfahrzeug die GSG 9 dann doch kurzfristig landen. Nach der Befreiung schwenkten die Somalis erneut um 9: 00 min watch?v=G3AX5vXpY5c .
"Everyone played a certain role in it. I looked into the history of the German special forces in the army archives, I looked into the history of the Brandenburgers and the English with Stirling, the forerunners of the SAS. But none of it fit because the tasks were completely different. The Israelis were always my role model, and they were the ones who, despite this traumatic experience that they also went through, were immediately ready to help us."
-Ulrich Wegener
Helmut Schmidt ... bester Kanzler !!!!
Wegener, eine Legende !
somalia army supported to save the passenger..while other country refuse to land their country.. viva somalia
Well thank you but they wouldn't do it today anymore, would they? Today Somalia is a failed state rife with terrorists pack.Sadly
now is not fail state it is recovering from civil war. we hope we shall stand our feet sooner.. somalia is rich country u may end up in somalia one day searching jobs..
Haha, I like your sense of humour.I tell you what, I and the rest of the world we would be content if Somalia would become a proper state again and kicked out the whole bunch of terrorists currently residing there.Good luck with that
sooner u will see it.
Yes we'll see
"Where are the pigs", that guy was a hero!
The guy who said this, is Mr. Dieter Fox.
DO NOT FUCK WITH THESE GENTLEMAN!!
Conrad Dev I have seen Deadliest Warrior, and still unsure how accurate the results were when paired up against S.W.A.T. But still, respect for GSG9 in “from what I heard of” a successful hostage situation
The GSG guys didn't even wear combat uniforms, only dress pants and normal shirts with camoflaged faces and armed with pistols. I might say this probably even better than the Iranian Embassy raid.
Ich sollte mir den Film echt mal reinziehen.
Gibts in voller Länge hier auf YT:)
Lohnt sich wirklich
@@superkent2245 wie heißt der?
@@derlord2186 Mogadischu
@@superkent2245 danke bro
Quite cool to get shot on the john in a Che shirt. Classy way to leave.
Danke GSG9
Die GSG9, eine Hochcharätige Einheit mit Uli Wegener und heute mit Jeromé Latur darauf ist immer verlass 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪👍👍👍💪💪💪
"Wo fliegen Sie denn hin?"
- "Nach *Mogadishu*"
"Gesundheit - also, wo fliegen Sie hin?"
- "Mogadishu!"
"So, mal ianz langsam - wo geht's jetzt hin"
GSG9: German efficency means sudden death!
Gsg9 👍👍👍👍👍🍾
Die haben richtig und professionell die scheiße aufgeräumt! 👍
"Frühlingszeit! Frühlingszeit!"
Solche Beamten hätte man jetzt in Hamburg gebraucht. Um dem einen oder anderen Che-Guevara-Anhänger zu zeigen, wo Moses Wein holt.
Die waren in hamburg
Ja die waren in Hamburg und die Deppen von Politikern haben den Einsatzbefehl nicht gegeben. Erst als die Cobra dann das eine Haus klar gemacht hat, war Ruhe im Schiff. Die hätten sofort mit 20 SEK Beamten diese bekloppte Rote Flora und den Schwarzen Block auseinandernehmen sollen.
Ja
@fotodrescher1
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Würde Mogadishu zur heutigen Zeit stattfinden würde es zu keinem Einsatz der GSG9 kommen. Man würde die Gefangenen austauschen - die (Ampel-) Regierung ist Erpressbar!
Ulrich Gegener was the pioneer, brainchild behind Counter Terror Force.
These were all developed after Munich tragedy.
It's Wegener, my friend
Helmut Schmidt hat damals in Hamburg schon bewiesen das er führen konnte.wäre die befreiung damals schiefegegangen,hat er gesagt,das er dann die verantwortung übernommen hätte.
In German it is Los, los, los means go, go, go.
i have only done german for a year so i dont understand
If you want to know what this movie is about then google "German Autumn" and you get the facts
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zekiahepic you can look up „Landshut hijacking“ (the name of the plane)
in real life the grenade didnt explode to a faulty fuze which saved allot of people in otherr hostage situations aswell b the way for example in the irianian embassy siege
It did explode but it was selfmade therefore it did very low damage
@@Ba-gb4br it didnt explode...ive seen original Interviews and reports
IT did. In Interviews with the gsg9 members in a Doku. They said that The granade wasnt wearing splitter or something, and because of that, IT didnt made much damage. Iam german and Saw 2 Dokus and Interviews about it
@@klecksy laber kein scheiss
bei der granate handelte es sich um eine sovietische F1 splittergranate eine der höchstgeladenenen granaten die im umlauf sind
die stweardess sas genau neben dem ding und starrte es 5 sekunden an und war dann gott froh als nix passierte
@@tavish4699 junge schau dir die Dokus dazu am bevor du laberst
4:04 The Che shirt makes it 10x more satisfying.
You're right
I'm so confused with what's going on lol. I clicked because of the GSG9
What confuses you, mate? That is the GSG9! They looked that way back then
@@Ahornblatt2000 Yeah I know lol I'm saying I only clicked because I saw the GSG-9, didn't expect any movie. What's going on in this scene confuses me haha
@@Ahornblatt2000 ohhhhh alright thanks for explaining👍
@@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 You're welcome, mate!
Klimaaktivisten: "Wenn Ihr uns nicht zuhört, müssen wir zu drastischeren Mitteln greifen!"
GSG9 : *breath intensifies*
Ich kann zu ca. 120% garantieren, dass das GSG-9 bei dem Einsatz keine Model-10 Revolver verwendet hat^^ Great Work Sat 1 xD
Ja und wieso nicht? Was habes sie für eine Waffe gehabt damals?
Revolver sind aber zuverlässiger
@@justinf.3293 und haben meist ne viel zu hohe durchschlagskraft in kombination mit geringerer kadenz und hohem rückstoß - ausserdem ist das nachladen unglaublich ineffektiv
@@Ahornblatt2000 ganz normale pistolen - revolver sind in den meisten armeen nichtmehr verwendet und bei den meisten SpezKr nie verwendet worden. Die spezifikationen sind, wie bereits in meinem anderen kommentar erwähnt, einfach ungünstig
@@Di3cy Auf manchen Fotes is aber Wegner zu sehen mit einen Revolver an seiner Hüfte
Gänsehaut
Clean man mu....... alder ey
Von den "68ern" nicht so gern thematisiert.
Where were the GSG 9 troops big helmets at tho?
@@tigercat5439 Ahh right. I literally came here after watching a deadliest warrior episode. GSG 9 v Swat lmao
iiCharlie they didn‘t even have enough helmets for this operation 🙈 Because they never expected to operate with such a large unit
@@xiCh4rlie Worst crap ever made!
Ballermann ´77 war wohl etwas anders als die anderen Jahre.
Why arent ey wearing amor?
@@zulugu6465in real life they probably did wear them. stupidity kills.
Realistic explosion of that hand grenade.
Actually it was realistic.One of the GSG-9 members remembered the moment, he told the grenade this greanede wasn't in a steel shell like it's supposed to be so there were no shrapnells only the explosiv charge.Otherewise there would have been some dead people and a lot injured
I thought there were 2 grenades and neither exploded?
Flashbangs
She takes aver bouve. London takes out and the bomb moves in. All out
Danke somalia
Where is the entire movie?
Mogadischu is the name of the movie. www.imdb.com/title/tt1153112/
Interesting even thought I can’t understand what their saying
All nothing much of interest just the normal hijacker lingo Do this or I kill you, do that or I shoot you, I kill if........, Shut up or we'll burn you.Back then in the 70s there wasn't so much Allahu Akhbar that came later
@@Ahornblatt2000 They where communist not islamist that was the difference
@@felixbeutin9530 First read then write
@@Ahornblatt2000 It was a response to your last sentence. There wasn't so much allahu akbar because they wheren't religously motivated
@@felixbeutin9530 Tomato, potato, man!
Bonn, lässt seine Staatsbürger nicht im Stich!
I feel as if I may have missed something. But was that chick wearing a bulletproof Che shirt?
No sha wasn't! Why?
@@Ahornblatt2000
She was shot in center mass, but still fired back.
There were two chicks with the same Che shirt.One got shot center mass and the other in the toilet
It’s true. There’s original footage where they carry her away in a stretcher, she is bleeding from her body, but survived
well more or less same with the occurrence, just little bit more cinematic
Gott schütze Israel!
Wie heißt der Film?
Mogadischu, wie es da oben steht
@@Ahornblatt2000 OK wow.... Danke
Is this Lufthansa 181 ?
Yep, it is. It's found its way back to Germany after it was discoverd on some airplane graveyard in Brasilien
what's the name of this movie?
It is actually understandable if you only know English. There are sub titles of speech in English and most of talking on plane is in English. Interesting film that co pilot really did well he said in interview he had no sleep at all during the hijack. yet still managed to safely fly and land the plane after a sand landing. With added presure of seeing the captain killed and being the only pilot. Seriously anyone would of expected anyone under so much presure to mess up.
Ahornblatt2000 The plane came back a few days ago
Yes I know.Its last place will be in an aeronautical museum
+Tom Friel Police Academy 12; Shenanigans In Somalia!
das todespiel tv produktion
PRIMA
Why were they dressed in civilian clothes?
I assume camouflage; not to show that there is a military unit and a GERMAN unit in Somalia
Did they really storm the aircraft with revolvers instead of MP5's?
It happened back in the 70s so I think it might be true
mp5s were designed in the late 60s so I would assume they did, being a german design and produced gun
this happened in the 70s right?
@@qk-tb2df Right it happened 1977
Yes, they did. But after this operation - no more. Not enough rate of fire etc.
"Not enough rate of fire "
I highly doubt that would be the reason, the mp5 has great ROF (but a little on the higher end)
the main reason is more likely to be that there is no reason to take handgun cartridges and put them in a rifle when you can just use rifle cartridges.............
I dont think gsg9 wears just a blue shirt and an armor vest to kill terrorists -.-
But it's true.It happened in 1977 back then the special units didn't have the high tech stuff they have nowadays.Even the armor vests, today standard were new high tech stuff back then
Ahornblatt2000 Cool, thanks man!
Illuminati Confirmed
You're welcome
Using only a standard armor vest and a 6 shot .38spl/357 mag. revolvers 👍
wie heißt der film
Steht's doch.Es heißt Mogadischu 2008
Superflotte Fickmütter 4
@@DarkPsy xddd
germans say thank u to somalia
Abdiweli Ibrahim Hassan thank you somalia.
@@nikitaeurope as a Somali person we must thank to Germany and Angel Melkal and all Germany people. Because Germany isn't like USA.
❤ Germany From Mogadishu. 🙏🙏🙏
@@AbdirizakHAdan
Thank you for your very positive message. Sorry for getting so aggressive. It is just a little weird to me that people tend to want the praise of other peoples accomplishments but when things go wrong they want nothing to do with it. This action could have easily gone wrong and in that case no one would have wanted the blaim. Wagner and his team had practiced this type of rescue missions over 900 times in the previous 2 years. So wat seams like a miracle is actually the result of very hard work and being well prepared. And the Somali police / Army did help by lighting a fire near the tower to confuse the hijackers right before the Germans stormed the ✈ plane. Anyway thank you very much for your positivity. Totally understandable that you might see it different but Merkel is no Angel. She is the worst Chancellor that Germany has ever had. She is corrupt and very incompetent. And sadly she is damaging the country with her stupidity. 😃
fuck somalia
Noone has to thank your pathetic country for anything
granate dekkung !!!
Deckung
Its a airfroce
the good old days when we where allowed to call a terrorist a terrorist and not rename them antifa & glorify them.
Yes back then, the RAF formed a clear counterweight. Back then, normal society did not want to be radical left. Now in peacetime they join the antifa because they are bored and ignore the past.These people are more privileged than ever, but do not appreciate it and want to rebel.
Merkel would have given them everything.
You you're right!
Merkil is a traitor
@@Ahornblatt2000 armer trottel
send the lutawaffe
SAS was there too.
NO
meinen Respekt an alle deutschen Spezialkräfte,ich zieh meinen Hut vor
euch!!!ich frag mich immer wie diese Leute in dem linksgrünen
Einheitsbrei von Politik und Medien heute noch Motivation finden
scipio 88 Weil Sie wissen ,dass Sie schlechter dran wären ,wenn eine rechte Regierung regieren würde.
@@hentrow7778 naja
@@hentrow7778 lol
@@hentrow7778 ja
Weil es Dummkopf wie dich gibt.
One simply does not fuck with GSG9
Wtf? Why did they depict the gsg9 with handguns? That's so stupid
because that is what they used at that time, in 1977, they went in with standard body armor and a 6 shot revolver each. They used only pritty basic stuff back then.
where is the sas who were major parts of the operation.
Once again there were no SAS operators, how often do I have to tell it? Wegner himself said it so many times there were no SAS guys charging the plane, they just lend some blend grenades to the Germans.Blend grenades were cutting edge back then
ok
@@Ahornblatt2000
Tu mir einen Gefallen und lese dir die Interviews von Wegener zu dem Thema noch mal gut durch. Die SAS hatte Blendgranaten angeboten und Wegener hat sich entschieden das er die gar nicht wollte. Man sieht doch ganz deutlich das hier nirgendwo eine Blendgranate benutzt wird. Die SAS hatte ausserdem Ideen eingebracht wie man denn vorgehen könnte oder sollte. Auch die Ideen der SAS hat Wegener abgelehnt und sich für seine eigene Taktik entschieden. Das heißt die GSG9 und die SAS waren damals miteinander im Gespräch. Die GSG9 war noch ganz neu und hat wahrscheinlich gerade mal 2 Jahre existiert. Das man dann gerne mit Kollegen im Ausland kommuniziert und sich liebend gerne anhört wie andere Dienste mit so einer Situation umgehen finde ich eine logische Sache. Aber dieses Getöse das ein Teil des Erfolgs irgendwie mit der SAS zu tun hätte ist schon reichlich lächerlich. Es ist sehr wahrscheinlich das die GSG9 auch regelmäßigen Kontakt hatte mit anderen ausländischen Diensten. Ziemlich sicher sogar mit den Israelis. Entebbe war gerade mal 1,5 Jahre her und davon konnte man sehr viel lernen.
Kein anderer Dienst oder Land macht sich jedoch so lächerlich als die Engländer mit ihrem SAS Gedöns was man ständig einbauen will obwohl die Leute gar nichts damit zu tun hatten.
Erfolg hatte viele Väter. Weil die Aktion perfekt verlaufen ist will man mitgeholfen haben. Wenn die Aktion ein Disaster geworden wäre dann würde kein Engländer auf den Gedanken kommen zu erzählen die SAS hätte irgendwie mitgeholfen und es läge bestimmt daran das man die Ideen und Vorschläge der SAS befolgt hat.
Übrigens hat Stauffenberg für sein Attentat auf Hitler im Juni 1944 Englischen Sprengstoff mit einer ungewöhnlichen Art von Zündung verwendet. Wie toll das geklappt hat wissen wir ja alle. Da kommt doch bisher niemand in England auf den Gedanken das Attentat wäre so enorm in die Hose gegangen weil der englische Sprengstoff totaler Mist war.
Auf jeden Fall hat die deutsche Armee keinen Grund um englisches Material zu benutzen. Als ob Deutschland nicht selber im Stande wäre um funktionierenden Sprengstoff zu produzieren oder eigene Ideen zu entwickeln. Diese Übereifrigkeit mit der die Engländer die SAS mit einbauen wollen ist reichlich lächerlich.
@@nikitaeurope
Warum erzählst Du mir das? Sag das der Die-SAS-war-da-Brigade
@@Ahornblatt2000
Weil ich ganz einfach mit dir kommunizieren wollte und nicht mit denen. Ich mag es das du dir die Zeit nimmst um denen die korrekte Information bei zu bringen, aber es gibt im Netz sehr viele Leute wo man Hundert mal hintereinander die korrekte Info ausführlich beschreiben kann und die es ganz einfach nicht kapieren wollen. Ich stecke da meine Zeit nicht rein wenn ich das Gefühl habe ich müsste mit Idioten diskutieren die eine Situation gar nicht begreifen wollen sondern steifköpfig drauf beharren das ihr Märchen die richtige Version sein muss. Das erinnert mich sehr an Sawsan Chebli die einen US Amerikaner dessen Eltern christliche Kopten sind die aus Ägypten fliehen mussten weil Sie wegen ihrer christlichen Religion verfolgt wurden, zum grossen Stolz für die gesamte islamische Welt erklärt weil er einen Oscar gewonnen hat für die Rolle von Freddy Mercury in Bohemian Rapsody. Sich mit den Federn von anderer Leute Arbeit schmücken zu wollen ist echt ein ganz beschissenes Niveau. Ich glaube nicht daran das lange Diskussionen mit solchen Leuten etwas bringen. Jemand der es nicht begreifen will wenn man ihm die korrekte Version darlegt der wird es auch nicht begreifen wollen wenn man ihm 100 Mal die korrekte Version vorhält. Also ich kommuniziere dann lieber mit jemand der eine ähnliche Meinung hat. Also du solltest dich nicht angegriffen fühlen wenn Leute ganz einfach mit dir quatschen wollen. Wie gesagt Respekt für jeden der diesen Dumbos die korrekte Version erklärt aber es gibt auch Leute wo das ganz einfach Zeitverschwendung ist.
What they failed to mention is that the gsg 9 asked for SAS assistance so 2 sas troopers flew over and also they took newly developed at time flash bangs.
And what you failed to mention is that the SAS suggested to storm through only one door to prevent friendly fire but Wegener hat much confidence in his guys and they went through multiple doors simultanously. But thanks for the flash bangs they were really cutting edge back then. And no SAS took part, Wegener mentioned 1000 times
Our current „Bundeskanzler“ Olaf Scholz would just go to bed because he don’t care. Maybe he would stay awake if the hostages were privat Bankiers.
I just read a part in a book I’m reading “The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces” by David Miller and It says there was stun grenades thrown and that there were at least 2 SAS members there so idk who’s right.
Like I already said-Wegener himself told that there were no SAS man involved in storming the plane. He said they met 2-3 days before where they were shown the blend grenades which had been all the rage by then, by the SAS, which he took. He also said that the SAS advised him to storm the plane only through one door in order to prevent friendly fire but Wegner deceided otherwise going in through all doors simultanously. If the SAS had taken part they would have been credited with it, I mean it's not something you have to keep secret when you help to secure some innocent civilians
@@Ahornblatt2000 yeah I agree with your explanation I think I was just trying to say there is supported evidence of the other explanation but it looks like the author got some things messed up. Good thing we have the internet today so we can cross reference and help each other out.
@@maxconing812 Even Frederick Forsythe wrote in one of his books that the SAS not only took part but went in point. But it is not true
Like how the director failed to implement the SAS who also played a major part in training and developing this operation and the GSG9.
+George Maverick
Failed? That was a success.No hostages killed except for the Pilot who was shot day of two before, and all terrorists were shot, three of them deadly.So what do you want? Do you know what Wegner said about the SAS? SAS insisted that the GSG-9 only uses 1 door when charging because of friendly fire but Wegner let his boys charge through all doors and that was key for the success
Ahornblatt2000 SAS did not board the plane. But one terrorist got killed by an SAS trooper named BARRY DAVIES. God rest his soul.
George Maverick It is not known if the SAS even took part in the action. And they never trained the GSG9.
Lol SAS only provided the flashbangs are the guys who built the guns heroes now because they provided them to GSG9?
+Steve Mario
If he didn't board the plane how could he kill one of the terrorists?There were no SAS-members in the assault team, Wegner has always denied it.I believe it's Frederick Forsyth fault, he wrote in one of his novels that 2 SAS man went in, even first but that is bullshit.I don't get why you guys insist so hard on that detail.Don't you think the German government wouldn't not thank your government and the SAS openly?
bulshit.
Propaganda, Somalia rescued the passengers, the Germans took credit of course. 😂
Troll somewhere else.
This are not GSG 9 this are Israel special forces
No they aren't Israeli What a BS
@@Ahornblatt2000 right but they’re jews idiot🤣🤣🤣
I really hate the fact that they forgot about two SAS unit, and two Flashbangs, that they threw, so terrorists was stunned
SAS again! Oh man that is a legend There were no SAS guys present they met them day or two before they stormed.The SAS gave them the flashbangs but I don't know if was used within the carrier or outside.Wegnere even disregarded their advice to go through only one door, he chose to go through all doors simultanously
This was actually the sas doing ,the Germans didn’t have the expertise so the sas did it for them and let gsg9 claim it
Looking back on it yes they would have advised it but still why couldn’t they do it on there own
Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong
Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong
Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong
Young Pappy you don’t start of with massive hi jacked plane
Wie heißt der Film?
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