Necrophagist - The Stillborn One / Ignominious and Pale (Live Summer Slaughter 2007)

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  • @RiffFlair
    @RiffFlair 6 років тому +329

    As I get older and (hopefully) better as a musician I realize these dudes are even better than I remember

    • @thedude8526
      @thedude8526 5 років тому +30

      Agreed. The better I get at guitar the more I realize how creative these guys are. It's downright impressive.

    • @the_juug_god4100
      @the_juug_god4100 5 років тому

      Its a 0.007 change you'll even be half as good. Dont hold your breath James bond. You wont ever come close to this so don't even pretend you have a chance 😂😂😂

    • @thedude8526
      @thedude8526 5 років тому +11

      @@the_juug_god4100 Probably true. I play almost everyday for about 7 years now and I'm not even close to them. Maybe in another 10 years I'll be able to imitate their "simpler" songs. It's not a matter of being able to get to that skill, it's a matter of putting in the time everyday with effective goals/exercises in mind. Most people don't have the drive.

    • @dylanswint1795
      @dylanswint1795 5 років тому +22

      @@thedude8526 yo don't listen to that guy in any respect other than to make you practice more.

    • @thedude8526
      @thedude8526 5 років тому +16

      @@dylanswint1795 I'm not worried about it. I've never listened to what people like that tell me regarding an instrument. Most of them have never touched on. I play to have fun. Getting better is just a secondary cause for having fun.

  • @thorstenthorben196
    @thorstenthorben196 5 років тому +153

    I really hate to be the guy to write this but this truly is one of the sickest Videos of UA-cam.
    Having Necrophagist play live with that soundquality on UA-cam will be important for the education of our kids...

  • @mladdplayGames
    @mladdplayGames 6 років тому +168

    I would pay a lot to see this band live once again!!

    • @MattJFilms
      @MattJFilms 5 років тому +9

      So jealous you were able to see them live! I was still only 12 when they disband sadly :l

    • @ronforeman2556
      @ronforeman2556 4 роки тому +3

      Truly! Seeing Necrophagist on that Summer Slaughter Tour, with my drummer son Brian's mentor Marco Minnemann sitting in on the drums, was a religious experience. Scary good. Inspired Brian to major in Percussion at USC, where led the drum line his senior year and got to perform with Radiohead on the Grammys and Hugh Jackman and Beyonce on the Oscars.
      Brian went on to earned a Masters degree from Cal Arts in their composer/performer program, pushing the envelop with electronically augmented world percussion and musical idiomata. His debut album, "Cirquelectroexotica," is nearing completion for release in fall 2020, but you can check out the first three tracks from Part I: "Smoke Clouds," now on bandcamp at: beforemanmusic.bandcamp.com/track/smilesxstripes
      beforemanmusic.bandcamp.com/track/grandchasm
      beforemanmusic.bandcamp.com/track/oneeyeopen

    • @wheresmyclicker
      @wheresmyclicker 4 роки тому +1

      They're going to play the annual Brookdale talent show later this year. Should be a blast.

    • @ronforeman2556
      @ronforeman2556 4 роки тому +1

      @@wheresmyclicker Are you being facetious?

    • @messiah2230
      @messiah2230 4 роки тому

      @@wheresmyclicker wtf?

  • @oliver3339
    @oliver3339 6 років тому +95

    God I miss Necrophagist

    • @gs970
      @gs970 4 роки тому +2

      God misses too😓😢

    • @dancraig8897
      @dancraig8897 11 місяців тому

      2023 still miss them... almost 2024 😢

  • @AleArzMusic
    @AleArzMusic 4 роки тому +70

    ...I can see Petrucci, Satriani and Vai having a really hard time playing these songs

    • @michaelz1387
      @michaelz1387 4 роки тому +1

      В формате G3! :)

    • @AleArzMusic
      @AleArzMusic 4 роки тому +2

      @@michaelz1387 yeah definitely

    • @BagusWibisono
      @BagusWibisono 3 роки тому

      No to Vai

    • @AleArzMusic
      @AleArzMusic 3 роки тому

      @@BagusWibisono wohaaaa

    • @akidk1499
      @akidk1499 3 роки тому +5

      But not Friedman Loomis Broderick Loureiro
      Maybe even Gilbert, Ohmura
      and the God Mfing Jason Becker

  • @BlackSoulKOD
    @BlackSoulKOD 6 років тому +108

    Omg!! Marco Minneman!!

    • @billyma.1235
      @billyma.1235 5 років тому +4

      He is a beast

    • @Compendyum
      @Compendyum 5 років тому +2

      Legend. Although Grossmann was a better fit for them.

    • @thewolfofstreetfood
      @thewolfofstreetfood 4 роки тому +2

      @@Compendyum and then arrived Goulon, the best one

    • @Compendyum
      @Compendyum 4 роки тому

      @@thewolfofstreetfood After Hannes and Marco, sure.

    • @thewolfofstreetfood
      @thewolfofstreetfood 4 роки тому +4

      @@Compendyum naaah, Goulon was made for that band and that genre, he was used to play this kind of stuff before to join them, watch the last Necrophagist's lives and compare to the previous ones with Marco, he never played exactly like the albums, he always missed some parts. I know Marco is one of the greatest modern drummer out there right know but not for play technical death metal, his blastbeats is not special he couldn't handled it very well. Nothing to say about Hannes, he is a freaking beast, but in my opinion Goulon was the more appropriated drummer for this band. What a shame they dont exist anymore :(

  • @jmetalskinz
    @jmetalskinz Рік тому +14

    The array of talent on that stage is beyond comprehension... There will never be another Necrophagist.

  • @FockeWulfFW200
    @FockeWulfFW200 3 роки тому +43

    6:42 how clean that sounds... its unbelievable

    • @danielchaves4763
      @danielchaves4763 Рік тому +2

      Just so damn awesome!!!!!!

    • @ShockwaveZero
      @ShockwaveZero 2 місяці тому +1

      @@danielchaves4763 literally sounds just like the record it's crazy

  • @vincecarpenter661
    @vincecarpenter661 5 років тому +59

    Wow! I didn't know johnny sins played bass for necrophagist.

  • @VilePosting
    @VilePosting 3 роки тому +44

    The most technical band in the history of music, definitely

    • @akidk1499
      @akidk1499 3 роки тому

      Cacophony
      Watchtower

    • @laflame6793
      @laflame6793 2 роки тому +20

      @@akidk1499 those bands don’t even come close

    • @kovacsandras
      @kovacsandras Рік тому

      Spawn of Possession

    • @METALKILLSemosNpunks
      @METALKILLSemosNpunks Рік тому +12

      @@kovacsandras spawn of possession doesn’t come close either. They seem to focus a lot on speed. Necrophagist’s music uses a lot classical and jazz elements in all their instruments.

    • @Nameless-iz3ko
      @Nameless-iz3ko Рік тому +4

      Completely agree. They r still relevant today. Impossible to top them.

  • @thegassyplay-0-971
    @thegassyplay-0-971 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing

  • @flakeoverlord8947
    @flakeoverlord8947 7 років тому +85

    Technical version of where the slime live

    • @AnwayPramanik
      @AnwayPramanik 3 роки тому +3

      thats a nice observation. It indeed doesn sound like a more technical version of that Morbid Angel classic

  • @LXZone0
    @LXZone0 Рік тому +3

    that solo 3.04 omg.

  • @joshalicea9870
    @joshalicea9870 3 роки тому +17

    3:42 he nailed Christians solo. Sounded amazing

  • @jackholladay2001
    @jackholladay2001 Рік тому +3

    The beginning riff to ignominious and pale is pure filth. Absolutely monstrous to this day.

  • @tomasburgos4644
    @tomasburgos4644 2 роки тому +9

    2022 and still crazy with this band, tha fact that Marco Minnemann was his drummer is still amazing 🤘🏻

  • @erikavoigts7728
    @erikavoigts7728 5 років тому +36

    I saw these guys probably over a decade ago not knowing who they were. If only I’d known at the time...

    • @paolob.1289
      @paolob.1289 3 роки тому +1

      Ive seen them back in the demo days, sadly I didnt got the right attentions they deserved, and always they will deserve, I wish I can go back in time

    • @chowdermonsterr
      @chowdermonsterr Рік тому

      Still sick to say you at least saw them. Cuz damn I wish I could have

  • @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026
    @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026 6 років тому +18

    Will never forget seeing them live in 2008-2010. Flawless shows. Best musicians on every festival circuit they toured on.

  • @mutilasijelangkungmelodeat2286
    @mutilasijelangkungmelodeat2286 5 років тому +28

    Very clean playing ... Come on 2020 for come back

  • @Lefty16jd
    @Lefty16jd 8 місяців тому +1

    Man they are so tight as a band musically. The sound as clean live as they do on the album!
    Miss this band!

  • @HybridSpektar
    @HybridSpektar 4 роки тому +18

    These dudes play death metal and don't even match the stereotypes associated with it. That to me is cool!

  • @ericv7720
    @ericv7720 Рік тому +3

    90s-era Death on crack. Miss these guys!

  • @brodmitkase
    @brodmitkase 5 років тому +8

    These guys are seriously some of the best I have ever heard. Such a shame they’re not around anymore

  • @xcityofemberx
    @xcityofemberx Рік тому +3

    Watching this combined with the skill of Minnemann on drums... It's godlike...

  • @steelcitysound2294
    @steelcitysound2294 4 роки тому +7

    i was at this show ...incredible!!!!

  • @jackwillson2326
    @jackwillson2326 4 роки тому +9

    Muhammed's speaking voice sounds just like Stellan Skarsgard (actor in Chernobyl) when he's really upset.

  • @ferhatokatan
    @ferhatokatan 5 років тому +6

    Muhammed kral adamsın.

  • @Cenot4ph
    @Cenot4ph Рік тому

    ive come back to this video a dozen times by now, it's magic.

  • @neonblack211
    @neonblack211 6 років тому +37

    This would be almost perfection if you could actually hear the snare in Marcos blasts

    • @InfiniteDesign91
      @InfiniteDesign91 5 років тому +4

      I think he played the snare on lower volume intentionally during the blast beats.

    • @dbo0729
      @dbo0729 5 років тому +5

      @@InfiniteDesign91 I think that because he is not a death metal drummer he just doesn't have the power.

    • @Compendyum
      @Compendyum 5 років тому +2

      The compression and the low sound bitrate of this makes it even worse. I have them stored somewhere around and the quality is slightly better.

    • @cleanclouds
      @cleanclouds 4 роки тому +16

      @dbo 0 "he doesn't have the power" that pure statement makes 0 sense.

    • @fernandohenriqueribeiro9337
      @fernandohenriqueribeiro9337 3 роки тому +7

      @@dbo0729 This is a really delicate subject that involves a lot of factors, like:
      1. Hannes is a guy that can, if he wants to, play blasts with full notes on the snare (not ghost notes). I don't think that those sounds good, honestly. I won't deny that ghosts are comfortable for the drummer, i myself would rather show off how controlled i am as a drummer instead of how much stamina i have... But i really think ghost notes sound better, and Marco thinks so too. But there is a scenario (studio recording) where you can hear ghost notes, but here you can't. That brings us to...
      2. drum recording -> It's a live setting, which means a lot of noise. The snare get lost in that noise because they're playing on a stage instead of drums only in the recording room. Also, they didn't use any tricks with microphones or samples to fix the problem you mentioned, they made an EXTREMELY human and faithful recording. That is SO VALUABLE in this genre, you can see humans playing faithfully something that humans can barely play.
      So what i'm saying is, ghost notes are better because of (1). There is a problem with low volume notes on a live setting, yes, but think about how awesome it is to hear a human play this whole song on the accoustic drums with no editing and no triggers, just him and the accoustic drums. It's wonderful!

  • @AleArzMusic
    @AleArzMusic 4 роки тому +5

    If you've never tried playing a Necrophagist song, just do it. You won't be able to.

  • @jerryhernandez2494
    @jerryhernandez2494 Рік тому

    I’m glad Ive had the privilege to see these dues live twice. Amazing

  • @DaVeAhUjA
    @DaVeAhUjA 4 роки тому +2

    The best line up!

  • @billyma.1235
    @billyma.1235 5 років тому +7

    The drummer ufffff

  • @joshalicea9870
    @joshalicea9870 3 роки тому +1

    This quality is soo good! Honestly sounds even better live.

  • @kaizuey
    @kaizuey 4 роки тому +2

    My favorite line up they killed this

  • @EveOfChaos
    @EveOfChaos 3 роки тому +2

    marco said its time to go fast

  • @UnderAGlassMetropolis
    @UnderAGlassMetropolis 11 місяців тому

    Immaculate perfection, Suiçmez is easily the most proficient Technical Death Metal guitarist ever.

  • @JosueJCaraballo
    @JosueJCaraballo 5 років тому +5

    "Don't lose your tightness" Muhammed

  • @MegaDysart
    @MegaDysart Рік тому

    I'd probably drop $1k or more to see them live. God damn

  • @jackflynn-oakley6137
    @jackflynn-oakley6137 3 роки тому +5

    Can’t begin to explain how amazing the section starting at 1:37 is...

  • @brodmitkase
    @brodmitkase 4 роки тому

    I’m so grateful this exists. I’d pay any amount to see them!

  • @carolinazepeda8268
    @carolinazepeda8268 4 роки тому +1

    Llevo este disco en las venas!

  • @scottbuckley6578
    @scottbuckley6578 4 роки тому +1

    I was there!!!

  • @Marteeenxurl
    @Marteeenxurl 6 років тому +1

    I can't even imagine how it would be to see this band ...in the same room with tech death gods melting your fucking face whoever has seen them you're so lucky

  • @ferdinandjulius293
    @ferdinandjulius293 3 роки тому +1

    God tier tech death

  • @elashine4689
    @elashine4689 Рік тому

    Good to finally see ned from school of rock playing live

  • @chongyvevo
    @chongyvevo 5 років тому +6

    Didn't know Dallas from Nile played bass with Necro

  • @alvarovelazquez1865
    @alvarovelazquez1865 7 років тому +8

    if chuck shuldiner of death did an album with necrophiagist that would be fuckin intense with Christian munizer for the solos and Muhammad and chuck 3 solos per song omfg

    • @R3tr0v1ru5
      @R3tr0v1ru5 7 років тому +3

      Philippe Tougas' (First Fragment) solos are arguably better than Christian's and Chuck's.

    • @coledaniels5530
      @coledaniels5530 7 років тому +2

      I'm just thinking if Muhammad and Chuck played off of each other vocally that would be absolutely tremendous

    • @FSATA
      @FSATA 7 років тому

      First Fragment sucks, that's my opinion.

    • @tjancijr
      @tjancijr 3 роки тому

      I'm a Chuck devotee... yet I wonder if he could actually hang some of this stuff. It's... a lot.

  • @Brian_McWilliams
    @Brian_McWilliams Рік тому

    It’s hilarious to me that Marco signed up to do this. It’s as far out of his wheelhouse as I’ve ever seen, and though he nails pretty much everything, you can tell the headroom isn’t there like it normally is for him. Maxing out his tech death skills on this set list for sure lol

  • @Attached-data1
    @Attached-data1 7 років тому +3

    Fucking SICK.

  • @user-ou2cx9ui1z
    @user-ou2cx9ui1z 3 роки тому

    YT should have one huge thumb up, found a usage now, AMAZING !

  • @SnowTheJamMan
    @SnowTheJamMan 6 років тому +20

    Too bad there isn't more pro shot footage of this band

  • @nobodyhere4860
    @nobodyhere4860 7 років тому +17

    First off stillborn one is one of the most ruthless songs ever! Lol I feel the drummer just had too big of shoes to fill!
    The original recorded drum tracks are absolutely insane! Almost nobody else can play em the same! It's like he could only play maybe 80% of the parts at half speed. still badass to see it live tho

    • @gunturbayu6779
      @gunturbayu6779 6 років тому +16

      Russell Mostrom this drummer is marco minneman , he is absolutely beast and even got invited to replace Mike Portnoy in DT

    • @M85619
      @M85619 6 років тому

      Tomas Haake from Meshuggah ?

    • @mikehawk8385
      @mikehawk8385 5 років тому +5

      @@M85619 the album credits Hannes Grossmann on drums

    • @zacherynoland8395
      @zacherynoland8395 5 років тому +1

      Marco did a great job filling in Hannes' big shoes. Both are amazingly capable drummers

    • @jeremyhassell7911
      @jeremyhassell7911 5 років тому +2

      Marco was doing session on this run, great talent obviously, but no Hannes!!

  • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
    @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Рік тому +2

    Poor guy has to put more effort into speaking than growling into the mic. Love the solos and the half time sections though - and always have done! I've never been into the sweep guitar stuff outside of Frank Gambale, but Mr. Necrophagist is a master in his own right.

  • @АлександрМ-т9т
    @АлександрМ-т9т Рік тому

    Muhamed's playing very cool👍👍👍

  • @suprjnt420
    @suprjnt420 Рік тому

    Necrophagist w/ Marco MInnemann is peak Tech Death!!!!!!!!

  • @zerotolerance9444
    @zerotolerance9444 5 років тому +7

    Muhoo allahmısın muhoooo

  • @scottkitchingman9884
    @scottkitchingman9884 5 років тому

    I was at this show, fucking amazing

  • @alagoaalex
    @alagoaalex 3 роки тому

    i love you

  • @MarkLee1
    @MarkLee1 4 роки тому +3

    Lucius playing guitar? No wonder Rome fell.

  • @imperialmetal3134
    @imperialmetal3134 6 років тому +1

    2:24 eargasm!!!!

  • @aenema1983
    @aenema1983 5 років тому

    I can whitle this fuckin solos in the bath... Mo where da fuk art thou?

  • @herbiehancock4495
    @herbiehancock4495 4 роки тому +1

    a wild cem uzan appears

  • @RobertWestland
    @RobertWestland 6 років тому +10

    Who's the guitarist in the psycroptic shirt?

    • @Metalton95
      @Metalton95 6 років тому +12

      Sami Raatikainen I think

    • @gabriellf_9304
      @gabriellf_9304 4 роки тому +2

      Christian Muenzer

    • @KL_Stereo
      @KL_Stereo 4 роки тому +2

      @@gabriellf_9304 This is after he left the band

    • @messiah2230
      @messiah2230 4 роки тому +1

      @@gabriellf_9304 no

    • @deas3016
      @deas3016 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gabriellf_9304nahh..muenzer is shorter thats Sami

  • @zeynepakgol
    @zeynepakgol 5 років тому

    ♡♡

  • @MarkLee1
    @MarkLee1 5 років тому +2

    We know Rome stopped filming at 2006. Time to drop your role of Lucius and start composing again, Muhammed.

  • @R_B69
    @R_B69 2 роки тому

    Sami is wearing a Psycroptic shirt!

  • @dyanrizki9469
    @dyanrizki9469 6 років тому +3

    where are you???????????¿¿¿¿??? to breathe in a casket?

    • @JohanHanif666
      @JohanHanif666 6 років тому

      Dyan Rizki mate dia, bujug udeh puluhan abad ora rilis singel kek apa kek, asli nganenin bet dah ni band yak

  • @brodmitkase
    @brodmitkase 5 років тому +1

    1:06 nut

  • @Lobometal
    @Lobometal 2 роки тому

    1.554!!!!!!!

  • @vincecarpenter661
    @vincecarpenter661 5 років тому +3

    Let's argue: Who had better solos? Suicmez or Muenzer?

    • @ToxicTerrance
      @ToxicTerrance 5 років тому +25

      Yes

    • @alexsharp3481
      @alexsharp3481 5 років тому +9

      Love both, but if I had to choose, I'm taking Suicmez. Fermented Offal Discharge and Ignominous and Pale are just insane

    • @MultixGamePlayer
      @MultixGamePlayer 4 роки тому +5

      Muenzner in my opinion. Especially because of Seven and Symbiotic solos and also his works in other bands.

    • @joshalicea7088
      @joshalicea7088 3 роки тому

      @@MultixGamePlayer agreed

  • @AngeloGuardia
    @AngeloGuardia 3 роки тому

    Where is this full show?????

  • @zakkchimera2916
    @zakkchimera2916 4 роки тому

    Michael Cera!!!!

  • @imperialmetal3134
    @imperialmetal3134 6 років тому +1

    Chon usa playeras de necrophagist :3

    • @franciscopiaggio4278
      @franciscopiaggio4278 6 років тому +2

      sos de los que vio el video y se fue a escuchar necrophagist jajaja

    • @imperialmetal3134
      @imperialmetal3134 6 років тому

      Francisco Piaggio conozco a necrophagist desde antes de que nacieras :3 despues conoci a chon

    • @franciscopiaggio4278
      @franciscopiaggio4278 6 років тому

      Pablo Muenzner jaja bueno no lo dije bardeando, también escucho hace mucho pero me causo gracia venir de escuchar a chon y leer tu comentario

    • @imperialmetal3134
      @imperialmetal3134 6 років тому

      Francisco Piaggio de donde eres? Es raro que alguien tenga los mismos gustos musicales pues las dos bandas son de mis favoritas

    • @lalol10
      @lalol10 6 років тому

      Pablo Muenzner en qué video o donde? No he escuchado mucho de Chon, sólo se que es critically acclaimed entre el prog/ math rock

  • @BaseChettis
    @BaseChettis 3 роки тому

    MARCO MINNEMANN

  • @neonblack211
    @neonblack211 6 років тому

    Is Marco shit at blasting or is it the soundmans fuckup?

  • @Марсель-и9с
    @Марсель-и9с 5 років тому +2

    Im a huge fan of necro, but i must say that marco dosent fit this, but its still necro and mohamed \../

    • @voronOsphere
      @voronOsphere 4 роки тому +1

      Marco seems to mostly stick to Hannes Grossman's original drum work. Probably some of the toughest stuff he's been asked to learn and play. Oh, we all miss Necrophagist....!

    • @BoogieWoogieCat
      @BoogieWoogieCat 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, but I'm actually surprised he even accepted the gig. I know he's friends with Muhammed to this day, but he was never a tech death metal drummer. So I can't say he's bad at it. I mean, the man played with Buddy Rich's band in the same year for his DVD. So he's pretty versatile.
      One key aspect of his drumming is that he improvises a lot, which shows here, because he doesn't play the songs note by note. If you watch other performances, you'll see him playing them a bit differently than here too.
      He also lacks the power Hannes had, because he uses the traditional Finger Control technique, which lacks power at high speeds. Hannes developed a hybrid version of that technique especially so he could add more power. Marco designed slightly bigger drumsticks with Promark for more power when he joined Necro, but they're still very light for this style of music.

  • @dyslexiusmaximus
    @dyslexiusmaximus 5 років тому +1

    i don't get whats musical about 80% of this. i know its fuck off hard to play and write and probably really fun to play if you can. still would have loved to see them live though.

    • @massivemoon7495
      @massivemoon7495 4 роки тому +7

      Actually there are many parts which are incredible in this song. First, the solos. Second, the 2 slower riffs. Third, the very fast riff. Well the whole song actually

    • @muratklc1078
      @muratklc1078 3 роки тому

      Just slow it down and analyze it bar by bar and try to play it at like 60 bpm maybe. You will love each riff

  • @andresduplex1152
    @andresduplex1152 Рік тому

    It pleasure to hear natural sound of guitars and drums but not todays kempered and triggered shit...

  • @HardbrasH1
    @HardbrasH1 7 років тому +1

    is it just a studio dubbed over live video?

  • @ahmaderik
    @ahmaderik 4 роки тому +1

    Moslem

  • @mars_ceres._.
    @mars_ceres._. Рік тому +1

    I was born too late to see these guys... i just got in my 20's and i know i'll never see someone as good as Necrophagist