Amazing to see the progress from the early days I was following you to now doing amazing projects along the way, setting a standard for bulding while doing amazing architecture at the same time, rare combination.
My guestimate is $759,000 because this reminds me of a road I roughed in for a customer in the western part of NC. As a tree service owner I can't help but run the numbers in my head for everything that you've showed. My guess would be 13k for permits. 73k tree clearing (feller bunchers are not cheap) 25k for the brainiacs (civil engineer). 80k for water pipes. 64k for blasting. 237k for grading, dirt work, and gravel. 92k to install water line. 17k in miscellaneous. 20% contractor fee. 5% It snowed and slowed the project down fee. 1k because we're hungry and need to eat lunch all month fee.
I've done this....almost. 1800' uphill through rock to a beautiful homesite... Decided to spend the money to go totally off grid, with solar and water catchment. My clients are super happy when the sun shines and the rain falls. Unfortunately the two things don't happen with appropriate regularity.
Love the bit about the utilities! I am pipe layer up in AK, we bury our utilities deeper but we don’t deal with ledge like that. That definitely doesn’t look like an easy pipe job!!! Heck yea man thanks for showing all that.
@@NSBuildersadapting and overcoming that obstacle is going to feel that much better the bigger it is and next job with lots of ledge you guys will just style it like it’s nothing. Love this channel dude, I grew up in western MA and am visiting next month. Can’t wait!!!!
Nic. You've done a great job growing your business over the years. Been following since some of the first modern craftsman podcasting... Your detail and explanations of said details are wonderful.
It's 2027. My contractors pulled off a civil engineering project on a scale that would dwarf the municipal budget of a rust belt town to build a road through a wetland to my luxury wilderness retreat. I settle into an eames chair in my hardwood-paneled study and appreciate the view of unspoiled wilderness through my argon-insulated Nordic eco-glass. In four years this will be a luxury VRBO for rich Tufts students to do mushrooms and stare at the cathedral ceilings. This is the best possible housing market. Nothing can go wrong now.
Looks like my old stomping grounds of NH or Vermont? What a site to build on, regardless of carbon emissions and naysayers. Hopefully future build videos are in the queue!
Nice how you routed the road over every possible problemed area so you could get kick backs from all your friends. Turned a $50,000 job into a $750,000 job. Congrats.
I noticed a drilling rig at 1:53, presumably for drilling blast holes. Did you consider drilling for a ground source heat pump while the equipment was already out there? I’m looking forward to future videos about this unique house!
@@paulschreiber Agreed, geothermal seems like a no-brainer on a project like this. Dude keeps saying stuff "wasn’t in the budget" but the client is clearly spending shit tons of $$$ here, so where is the money going?
Can you tell us if you bid these extreme builds that you do or are you able to work cost plus/time and material? I cant imagine being able to accurately bid these projects.
I was wondering why not drill for a well but I guess the main is required due to fire protection. I assume there will be septic and not a sewer line. Anxious for more video.
Will the road intended solely for the future homeowner's use?. I wonder if someone else might take advantage of it eventually. If this process leads to the road attracting more builders to the area, and you cover all the costs associated with constructing the road, could someone else benefit from this opportunity.
Why not build a fire hydrant with a big water tank? Pretty sure on some well water properties that's what they do. Also, was this designed to allow for additional houses to built along the road and feed off the utilities?
Seems silly to use a water pipe that will deteriorate over time. PVC or C900 for the water would be way better. The government has the silliest requirements sometimes
Why not 6" pvc main instead of iron? That's pretty much all that gets used in my area. I'm glad i don't have to deal with all that ledge. I'll take clay over that.
Not saying that you won't keep some, or aren't already. Just based on what you said about shipping it out, it seems like it could be incorporated into the hard scaping somehow. Either way I know you guys know exactly what you're doing.
How come iron pipe was specified? Who made that call? I’d think HDPE in appropriate size would have been much cheaper, easier to bend, super impact resistant and just as healthy to drink the water out of;
Likely required by the local municipality. Ductile iron is great stuff. Compared to HDPE, DIP is a superior pipe for burial in material that could have rocks/cobbles work into the bedding. You can also bed it with native material lowering the job costs. With DIP crew can deflect the joints for curves in the road and add offset joints so staying on line/grade with this driveway would be no problem. With HDPE you want to minimize fusion joints and put in as long of runs as possible. That would be tough on this job with just a driveway of space to work. So running 18ft ductile sticks and stabbing/ backfilling as you go is the way to go. Very respectfully.
I assume this was a municipal requirement? I can't believe they wouldn't allow a sprinkler system or a retention pond/Cistern!! Seems like a large expense imposed on you guys /the customer. Either way excellent work.
Must be a bunch of ridiculous Mass regs, or someone looking to throw away money. I just built my 2200’ driveway in central NH: new construction, 2 wetlands crossings, full EPA review due to >1 acre disturbed, and an archaeological survey. Cost approx $20K in engineering and permits, $30k in excavation and grading, $20k in gravel delivered. No blasting or utilities: rather than running power and water from the street, invested the money in off-grid solar and batteries for 1/10th the price, 1000% better reliability, and free unlimited air conditioning forever. I moved from Westwood Mass to NH during COVID, so I know the type of people that would throw away money on over-the-top projects like this.
Here is a fun thought exercise: Come up with a rough estimate of the thousands of tons of carbon emissions associated with building this single family house (including forest clearing, wetland disruption, road and site work, concrete etc.). Then multiply by the number of households who inhabit the planet, say 2.5 billion. If we all adopted this lifestyle and built something like this, I think that the global temperature would shoot out by 10F before the end of the decade. I am not impressed.
Thankfully everyone builds a bit different, and has different goals. Doesn’t mean we’re not still being intentionally with how we go about this and building something that respects and celebrates nature.
Wonderful project..think of all the people who for more than a year are going to earn a living an the tax revenue that's going to help this community...I'm impressed
Amazing to see the progress from the early days I was following you to now doing amazing projects along the way, setting a standard for bulding while doing amazing architecture at the same time, rare combination.
My guestimate is $759,000 because this reminds me of a road I roughed in for a customer in the western part of NC. As a tree service owner I can't help but run the numbers in my head for everything that you've showed. My guess would be 13k for permits. 73k tree clearing (feller bunchers are not cheap) 25k for the brainiacs (civil engineer). 80k for water pipes. 64k for blasting. 237k for grading, dirt work, and gravel. 92k to install water line. 17k in miscellaneous. 20% contractor fee. 5% It snowed and slowed the project down fee. 1k because we're hungry and need to eat lunch all month fee.
Great guestimate
Thanks for the walkthrough - epic project. I appreciate that the client allowed you to present this to us.
Excited to share
I've done this....almost. 1800' uphill through rock to a beautiful homesite... Decided to spend the money to go totally off grid, with solar and water catchment. My clients are super happy when the sun shines and the rain falls. Unfortunately the two things don't happen with appropriate regularity.
Love the bit about the utilities! I am pipe layer up in AK, we bury our utilities deeper but we don’t deal with ledge like that. That definitely doesn’t look like an easy pipe job!!! Heck yea man thanks for showing all that.
Thanks man! We were hoping there was less ledge. But here we are
@@NSBuildersadapting and overcoming that obstacle is going to feel that much better the bigger it is and next job with lots of ledge you guys will just style it like it’s nothing.
Love this channel dude, I grew up in western MA and am visiting next month. Can’t wait!!!!
Nic. You've done a great job growing your business over the years. Been following since some of the first modern craftsman podcasting...
Your detail and explanations of said details are wonderful.
Appreciate you following along!
It's 2027. My contractors pulled off a civil engineering project on a scale that would dwarf the municipal budget of a rust belt town to build a road through a wetland to my luxury wilderness retreat. I settle into an eames chair in my hardwood-paneled study and appreciate the view of unspoiled wilderness through my argon-insulated Nordic eco-glass. In four years this will be a luxury VRBO for rich Tufts students to do mushrooms and stare at the cathedral ceilings. This is the best possible housing market. Nothing can go wrong now.
Thanks for your support. Though I doubt it’ll be a vrbo 😂
f*cking hilarious!
The amount of engineering and labor being put is astonishing especially considering the fact that it is a private project!
Got a good team! Efficient
@ that’s a blessing! Good luck!
Wow,great to see how all this happens before any house construction starts.lotta work
Looks like my old stomping grounds of NH or Vermont? What a site to build on, regardless of carbon emissions and naysayers. Hopefully future build videos are in the queue!
@@dzaino1986 Taxachusetts. Somewhere around northwest of Boston.
@artagain8977 that's what my dad calls it!
Nice how you routed the road over every possible problemed area so you could get kick backs from all your friends. Turned a $50,000 job into a $750,000 job. Congrats.
Haters gonna hate.
Wrong Gene. The road had to be here, per civil, wetlands and municipality
I noticed a drilling rig at 1:53, presumably for drilling blast holes. Did you consider drilling for a ground source heat pump while the equipment was already out there? I’m looking forward to future videos about this unique house!
Wasn’t in the budget for this project.
@@NSBuilders No Geothermal? That's too bad. I imagine the budget for this is pretty large.
@@paulschreiber Agreed, geothermal seems like a no-brainer on a project like this. Dude keeps saying stuff "wasn’t in the budget" but the client is clearly spending shit tons of $$$ here, so where is the money going?
Sheeeeesh $$$
Can you tell us if you bid these extreme builds that you do or are you able to work cost plus/time and material? I cant imagine being able to accurately bid these projects.
Everything is priced during our pre-construction process.
Is it too late to build at the road and buy a couple ATVs to get to the lake!?! LOL Love the work, gonna be another great project, can't wait!
It’s never too late to buyATVs
I was wondering why not drill for a well but I guess the main is required due to fire protection. I assume there will be septic and not a sewer line. Anxious for more video.
Yes, septic for this one, and more videos coming soon!
Is it because of cost that the home onwer doesn't want an asphalt or concrete drive? This is an amazing drive for sure.
Pavement just feels wrong for a home in the woods
@@NSBuilders totally!!!
@@NSBuilders Well said
Will the road intended solely for the future homeowner's use?. I wonder if someone else might take advantage of it eventually. If this process leads to the road attracting more builders to the area, and you cover all the costs associated with constructing the road, could someone else benefit from this opportunity.
This is for one amazing home
God I hope not!
With that amount of ledge and rock what drove the decision to haul it offsite? Did it not make sense to hammer and crush?
Didn't have the room for it
Millions of dollars before you even start the house.
Not quite
But close I'm sure 😂
@@1mgb "Not quite" = 1.95 million
@NSBuilders Well now I'm curious
Around half a million
Why not build a fire hydrant with a big water tank? Pretty sure on some well water properties that's what they do. Also, was this designed to allow for additional houses to built along the road and feed off the utilities?
Municipal requirements
If the local fire department isn’t set up for rural fire fighting they might not be able to draft from a static water source.
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Seems silly to use a water pipe that will deteriorate over time. PVC or C900 for the water would be way better. The government has the silliest requirements sometimes
Unlikely imo
Why not 6" pvc main instead of iron? That's pretty much all that gets used in my area.
I'm glad i don't have to deal with all that ledge. I'll take clay over that.
Required by municipalities
We only use PVC or concrete around here .. western WI... Concrete for the large stuff. Waste lines....
What was the rough number of the cost 100K 200k 300k or more? Including water lines and all infrastructure.
More
You always end up with homes to be proud of. You are not overcome with all the details for all your carefully designed homes ?
I think you mean overwhelmed? And if so, yes I’m often times overwhelmed 😂
Why go with 6 inch cast iron? Could you use 6 inch PVC pipe?
Nope. Required for municipalities and the hydrant
@@NSBuilders Ahhh right, thats abit of a pain. I think our fire pipelines are off our mains water supply, which use the 6 inch PVc.
Should keep some of that large stone for hard scraping. Why pay to bring in large stone when you already have them on site?
Exactly what we’re doing
Not saying that you won't keep some, or aren't already. Just based on what you said about shipping it out, it seems like it could be incorporated into the hard scaping somehow. Either way I know you guys know exactly what you're doing.
Wonder why put homes way back in the woods?life or death situation is against u if ambulances 🚑 is needed?
The whole point of the video is about the road we’re building for emergencies
How come iron pipe was specified? Who made that call?
I’d think HDPE in appropriate size would have been much cheaper, easier to bend, super impact resistant and just as healthy to drink the water out of;
Likely required by the local municipality. Ductile iron is great stuff.
Compared to HDPE, DIP is a superior pipe for burial in material that could have rocks/cobbles work into the bedding. You can also bed it with native material lowering the job costs. With DIP crew can deflect the joints for curves in the road and add offset joints so staying on line/grade with this driveway would be no problem. With HDPE you want to minimize fusion joints and put in as long of runs as possible. That would be tough on this job with just a driveway of space to work. So running 18ft ductile sticks and stabbing/ backfilling as you go is the way to go. Very respectfully.
Exactly ⬆️ it’s feeding a hydrant
I assume this was a municipal requirement? I can't believe they wouldn't allow a sprinkler system or a retention pond/Cistern!! Seems like a large expense imposed on you guys /the customer. Either way excellent work.
Yup. Thanks 🙏
On wetlands but bringing in a mile of water, LOL. Are they aware of the ability to drill a well?
Can’t. Need water for the hydrant.
Why not HDPE for the water line?
Per the municipal requirements
Why would you have public water?
For the fire hydrant
@@NSBuilders What about a well?
@@bogey19018can't get the volume and pressure needed for sprinkler system with a well. Plus you'd have to have backup power probably.
Why not just do 1-2 wells instead of that money for that water line?
Wasn’t allowed by FD
@@NSBuilders That annoying! So many stingy rules.
Must be a bunch of ridiculous Mass regs, or someone looking to throw away money. I just built my 2200’ driveway in central NH: new construction, 2 wetlands crossings, full EPA review due to >1 acre disturbed, and an archaeological survey. Cost approx $20K in engineering and permits, $30k in excavation and grading, $20k in gravel delivered. No blasting or utilities: rather than running power and water from the street, invested the money in off-grid solar and batteries for 1/10th the price, 1000% better reliability, and free unlimited air conditioning forever. I moved from Westwood Mass to NH during COVID, so I know the type of people that would throw away money on over-the-top projects like this.
Here is a fun thought exercise:
Come up with a rough estimate of the thousands of tons of carbon emissions associated with building this single family house (including forest clearing, wetland disruption, road and site work, concrete etc.). Then multiply by the number of households who inhabit the planet, say 2.5 billion.
If we all adopted this lifestyle and built something like this, I think that the global temperature would shoot out by 10F before the end of the decade. I am not impressed.
Thankfully everyone builds a bit different, and has different goals. Doesn’t mean we’re not still being intentionally with how we go about this and building something that respects and celebrates nature.
Wonderful project..think of all the people who for more than a year are going to earn a living an the tax revenue that's going to help this community...I'm impressed
Yeah they should just sleep in a tent and hold their farts in 😂. Home sweet home and no emissions lol
Keep drinkin that Kool-Aid, global warming is total BS, Im sure if we pay enough taxes the politicians will save us....
That would be great! Then the water line wouldn’t need to be 4’ deep!
Using iron pipe is kinda stupid, you are far better running a 8-10" corrugated pull line with 6" HDPE
wasnt an option
Definitely should have consulted the Vanilla ice coffee before starting the road 🤣
@@CMCraftsman that's how it's done today... thermofusion HDPE in sand or corrugated, but whatever just pay 10x for the iron and enjoy leaks
I guess you have money to burn. I can't see a more expensive project and I've build many times on acreage.
We’ve done plenty of project more expensive
If you showed us building the road instead of just talking the entire time, this video would be watcheable
I’ll take that into consideration
How to take as much money as possible from the customer. I disagree with 99% of this.
Show us the 1400' roads and multimillion dollar homes you build
Take as much money? This was per the clients request, but you’re welcome to disagree.
I’d love to see all this get done, but have very little interest in listening to someone talk about it. Sooo many words ;)
Turn the volume off 👍🏼
you used blasting mats for no reason. How much did you charge the customer for that shtt. blasting mats in the middle of nowhere.
I mean for a number of reasons, but I assume you’ve made up your mind. 😊