POST-CREDIT SCENES: Have They Gone Too Far? (Full History) | Invosstigation #3
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What was the first-ever movie post-credit scene? How did they evolve over time to the place they are now, where the Marvel Cinematic Universe uses post-credit scenes to link Quantumania to Avengers Kang Dynasty, two years away? Are some MCU movies like Captain Marvel really just vehicles for juicy post-credit scenes? In this special "Invosstigation" series episode, Erik Voss investigates the complete history of film post-credit scenes, from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, to today.
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Honestly, I blame the MCU for giving me the mentality that every movie has post credit scenes
same
DC does post credit scenes ironically.
Every DC post credit scene has been a red herring, never paid off.
I say dc should just not do it moving forward, it would be refreshing
I blame He-Man the film ... Skeletor's head popping back up is monumental for a pcs.
its probably going to be the greatest contribution to film the MCU does. its like the matrix with bullet speed - everyone in the genre has to have it now and im not mad about it
Eric puts so much effort into these videos and we all love him even more for this.
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I'd like to argue that the post credit scene of Spider-Man: Far From Home is up there with the three other Marvel post credit scenes Voss mentioned. The bombshell of Peter's identity being revealed alongside a surprise JJJ cameo by J.K. Simmons and the tease of what comes next in Phase 4 (which ended up being No Way Home's 3 Peters) was a satisfying tie in that makes the MCU Spider-Man trilogy one of a kind
1000% agree. How'd he not mention that?
Also the reveal of Skrull Nick Fury and the PEAK, which will be paid off in Secret Invasion, and The Marvels.
@@The_Infamous_Boogyman IKR, I honstly thought he was going to say something about the that one
And the movie itself wasn't a mid one. I loved Far From Home.
Amazing Spider-Man series >>> Mcu spiderman 1 and 2
Erik thought he could call Joe Manganiello's character "Deadshot" three times and nobody would notice
I still hope we get to see Deadpool in a DC film some day.
*Tony Stark: "He thought we wouldn't notice...but we did."*
Lmaoooo nah this comment mad funny, I was thinking the same thing 😂
"I wouldn't want to fight me neither"
I came to the comments to see if someone caught this. 😂
Ant Man 2's scene was pretty intense. Still reeling from the end of Infinity War, we see Ant Man as this sort of comic relief. Then the post credit scene just pulls out the rug from under us, reminding every one that there is still some serious stuff going on.
Id like to propose a change to post credit rule 3. It should evoke an emotion. BP2 had the new T'Challa moment which was very heartfelt
@@DeepDiveNR BP2 should have been delayed. Since marvel was desperate to make a movie then it should’ve taken place after Infinity War. Tchalla was dead for 5 years so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick in BP 2 then have a post credit scene when Tchalla(in the suit with his face covered) gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame. That would have been a great way to say good bye to Chadwick as Tchalla but not kill Tchalla all together post Endgame. Toussaint Tchalla is a slap to the face to Tchalla as a character Jack Kurby and Chadwick
Honestly, I was waiting for a post credit scene for this video! Would've been really ingenious if the editors had added a post credit scene in this very video!
Also, Eric, you're doing an amazing job over here at The Deep Dive! Love it!
Ant Man and the Wasp was another good example of a great post credit scene.
I think that should really just have been the final scene of the film though. Save the ant playing the drums as a joke for the end of the credits, but a huge piece of plot info should, you know, actually be in the movie. It's not like Fury turning up in Iron Man, which worked as a fun nod to fans if the whole MCU didn't get off the ground as much as setting up all of Phase One.
@@samuelhonywill8326 Ya I agree. That scene should've been the final scene for the movie. The Loki Post Credit was a true post credit because it was tying into another story which will be coming really soon but with some connective tissue to the story we just saw.
These Deep Dive videos are the best on youtube
I highly appreciate the run down of when credits were at the beginning to the end of a feature.
Staying after the credits just for a joke always stings lol
@@DeepDiveNR I dont mind of the first one is a gag and the 2nd is the real thing. MoM did us dirty
I love end credit scenes. I think a lot of these problems will correct themselves. I love the ones I don’t totally understand and really leaves me guessing what is happening next. Very interesting history that I didn’t know.
Another one was Sinestro putting on the yellow ring of fear in the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie. Was so excited to see that play out!
Some of the post-credit scenes that ended up being the best were scenes that really should have been before the credits, like Ant Man & The Wasp's scene of Scott getting stuck in the Quantum Realm due to the Snap, and Spiderman: Far From Home's scene of Mysterio framing Spiderman for the drone attack and outing his identity.
Another thought-provoking lesson! I feel like you could turn these videos in a curriculum
You made a perfect point: we don’t mind sitting through the credits for the extra bonus scene, just if you’re setting some story up for the future, deliver on the promise!
Man this content is fantastic. So interesting. I’m loving everything about this channel! 🙏🏿❤️❤️
I'd like to hear your thoughts on Monster Culture in a future episode. The idea that the big-bads in stories reflect the phobias of a society in a given time. Dracula being potentially the ending of the Victorian era, or illnesses like the bubonic plague. Zombies represent the fear of deep poverty to the middle class. I've also heard zombies associated with a fear of technology/modernization as those are the things which humans tend to try to rely on and ultimately fail in many of those stories.
But taking those thoughts and applying them to today's biggest stories is interesting. Or even especially looking at the rise of the anti-hero. The idea that the villains in our stories may be actually be the heroes, as a culture we begin to protest more publicly the ideas of police reform and wealth disparity.
Oh, this is a juicy one, I can tell.
Also, Erik, the Infinity War post-credit scene with Nick Fury being dusted also set up Captain Marvel with the pager.
I was just discussing with my cousin the other day how much we miss old Pixar bloopers during the end credits of their movies. Great analysis as always, Erik!!
Respect for The Batman for having no post-credit scene. My theater was moaning in disappointment as the staff tried not to laugh. 😂😂
How ironic is it that the exception that makes your comic book movie shine now, is to NOT put a post credit scene ?
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Bro my theatre had the exact same reaction
This is great thank you!. I can't wait to see your guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2 deep dive as I have an awesome theory that I can't wait to share with you..Thank you for all that you do and all your hard work to keep us entertained and thinking in more depth about movies and film!
A great Deep Dive Eric. You hit the nail on the head with that one. Also love the research conducted on post-credit scenes. 10/10 👍
You big dork! You had me cracking up with your kitschy little 60's dance moves and singsong. I'm still rolling!
Honestly, this was a really great video. Full of information' and interesting. Got me hooked up immediately. Love your way of explaining these complex things. Looking forward to more such vids.!!
Hey Eric! Great job as always. My idea for one of your next deep dives is for your all time favorite film! Whatever it is, do a deep dive on that movie. It'll be awesome, you know it always is lol
This was a really nice video! It’s funny how the industry kinda went full circle starting with setting up the next film, and now sowing the seeds for an upcoming film in a massive lineup.
Loving this format! Keep it up 😍
Great video man!
Death stroke not dead shot
Ant-Man 2's post credit scene (mid-credit?) was helpful in establishing the movie's timeline I suppose. It didn't set any expectations for a third film, introduce a new character, or complete an integral arc to a main character 🤷
It also made you think how he would even get out of the quantum realm during Endgame which was pretty important!
A very good quality invosstigation! More of properly deep dived stuff like this please!
Great video! 💪🏽
These video essays are so fkn satisfying. Keep them coming please!
THANKS for this!!!!! Learned a lot!!!!
I feel like that similar to the important post credit scenes from iron man and the avengers films, endgame not having one was the prefect way to wrap up that saga
I liked the post credit scenes at the end of GOTG 3, it was nice that Peter reunited with his grandfather, and Rocket has a new team. I like it gave characters we love a happy ending. Like when we had Steve dancing with Peggy.
This deep dive channel is spectacular
Thanks for the video
I personally enjoy staying through the credits to acknowledge ALL of the hard work to bring this to a visual masterpiece(s). I am able to get lost in the conversation of the director🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉Good job. Thanks for the Deep Dive segment🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great video!!
Not exactly a post credit scene but I seem to remember at the end of the credits of the first Bond films, the last line of text used to say “James Bond will return in….”
Yeah, I think these are relevant. They were a little last exciting jolt to a little kid. Sometimes they already had the movie title locked down, too, and since they were all based on novels, you could imagine the next film a little.
I love videos like this. Very informative
@The Deep Dive you're welcome sir. You and the crew do amazing work
The worst post credit scenes are the one where you are left sitting there just for what is to come and it ends up being something stupid or meaningless or worse just a straight up advertisement for the next film that has NOTHING to do with the events of the film we just watched, and what's worse is the possibility that we may never see that come to light.
The good post credit scenes pay off and really doesn't feel like you are sitting there waiting for it. Just admiring the work that has been done.
Great Video The Deep Dive
One of the post credits I just found out and was blown away by, was James and the Giant Peach.
Back in the day the most iconic post credits scene was from the live-action Masters of the Universe, with Frank Langella's Skeletor surviving.
@@DeepDiveNR what would it take to get a deep dive into that film?
@@DeepDiveNR Yeah that would've been a great one to go into, granted, it never went anywhere, but still, that one was pretty memorable.
I'm still waiting on the sequel to Masters of the Universe. Skeletor would never lie to 8 year old me.....I'm 40 now. 😢
Another great Deep Dive... can't wait for the next hour+ long video
I know this video is about to be fire as always
My favorite post credit scene has always been the one for Farris Buller’s Day Off.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 The intro had me dying
5:31 Pirates of the Caribbean 5 also had an end credits scene of Will Turner having a nightmare of Davy Jones coming in his room and attacking him before waking up and showing the puddle with barnacles on the floor.
Wow that's a great topic to cover. Haven't seen this sort of analysis on post credit scenes.
“Expect disappointment & you’ll never be disappointed.” Is how I’m approaching every MCU project moving forward after the wishy washy phase 4..
Best one yet!
Great video Erik!!!!!!!!
Are we going to come back to all of Voss’s videos and realize they are all just post credit scenes teasing the next video?! Could he be dropping Easter eggs “the whole time!” For what is next and we realize it’s actually just one long video?! My mind is melting lol
I've grown up sitting through credits all my life (mainly because I like listening to the music) so staying until the end is just what I do anyway. As post-credit scenes have become more prevalent, I've begun liking them less and less. Things like Xavier transferring his mind into another body, almost feel like non-canon moments because they can be missable. If it's important, tell your story IN your movie, not piecemeal. Since I'm not a fan of treating films like long-running tv shows, I'm not into any post-credits that set up 'next product to consume.' But I'm fine with amusing and/or scary codas connected to what we watched.
Neat video.
Masters of the Universe had a post credit scene and it didn't go anywhere either. I do enjoy looking at the end credits to see the names that contributed to the film and you never know who you may see on there. Great video.
It wasn't an MCU or Comic Book movie (well, it kinda had Thor -- played by Kingpin, no less), but "Adventures in Babysitting" had one of my favorite after credit scenes. One of the baddies was pursuing the protagonists and chased them onto the ledge of a skyscraper. They escaped and the bad guy was not seen again during the course of the movie. After the credits rolled, the flashed to the bad guy with his back against the glass, still stuck on the ledge in a state of panic.
keep these kind of videos coming voss
The Great Outdoors was the film that had me stay after every end credits scene since. Damn raccoons
Morbius had the most outrageous post-credit scenes 😂
Not only was it the topic and history I reallllly wanted for number three, but - in true Voss fashion - he took it a step further by giving us criteria for analysis and his evaluation using those criteria.
I know he *says* it's not fun work, but these results are worth the effort required to produce them
Good shit man
Captain Marvel meant more to me than any of your Spiderpeople. Some of us waited for years for that.
9:34 you have no idea how excited I got when I learned that this guy was the scorpion. There is so so so so much potential there. That actor is phenomenal and really builds a presence in the roles he steps into. Would love to see an awesome character get an portrayed by an awesome actor. Spider man fans deserve this movie.
I would also add the post-credit scene from Ant-Man and the Wasp showing Scott trapped in the quantum realm and the others being dusted because it took what was a standalone series and connected it to the larger MCU Infinity Saga and led directly into Endgame.
im been fan of new rockstars since 2021.
You all still amazing.
The pirates of the Caribbean last post credits scene is actually dead men tell no tales
I love these deep dive videos,.
NWH really did it proper with the M.O.M. trailer as a 2nd post credit. I think they should do that more often! ❤
I can see Film study classes in 2060 using the Deep Dive channel as educational material.
Your picks match up w the best post-credit scenes before MCU: Arrested Development
I love NewRockers, been a fan for a long time, and im LOVING the Deep Dive. If possible, something i havent seen talked about on NewRockstars and id love to see here, which, i think it would be perfect for, is a Deep Dive into the Smallville series and its impact on superhero movies and tv shows, as well as its impact on the Superman mythos itself.
If this video doesn’t end with a post credit scene teasing a video that you won’t make for another 5 years or so, ima be PISSED!! because that’s what I’m used to 🤘🏽😎 lol
Never realized that so many post credit scenes happened before X3. The one with Charles Xavier was the first one I ever saw, so I thought that was a pretty new thing.
Jim Carey's Liar Liar had the best blooper reel as a post credit scene
Erik, thanks and subbed to DD! Could you do the evolution of the buddy cop movies?
I remember seeing Spiderman Homecoming late on opening Thursday and the whoel theater reacting to sitting through all the credits just to have the Captain America PSA come up. Some laughed and others were annoyed. I loved it.
I really miss the Pixar bloopers. The extra effort to make us laugh went a long way
i love how this chanel lets eric not have to be careful with what he says about marvel and air out when he has a problem with their shinanigans
I love it when you mention obscure films. HEAD is one of my favorite weird movies. Frank Zappa and that cow, Teri Garr, all the surrealist moments that are or become music videos🥰
The other day I heard you mention Dark Star and I clapped loudly, alone, watching you.😅👏👏👏
There is a wonderfully weird film called The Wizard of Speed and Time that was only on VHS until some kind soul put it on UA-cam. All about handmade vfx, the Hollywood machine, and has two very surprising cameos. 10/10 highly recommend to any film loving nerd.
I think it's because recent PCS were vague and leads to no where. The first phase of the MCU all had interconnected scenes with each other, giving us a clear direction like "Oooh that's from Thor" or "Oooh hey that's connected to the other film" and that got people intrigued as the connected shows have already been released. It all leads to Fury's Big Week. Look at the recent PCS, Klea going into the multiverse was confusing...or Pip showing up introducing Eros like wtf who are you bruh? And Kang was just introduced 2 hours ago, immediately we got even more Kang raining down on us at the end but doesn't show what that means for us. It's like our investments are never getting any returns. It's been dragging on far too long with too many movies not showing a clear direction. The multiverse saga sucks. And no, not everyone is familiar with the comics so you'll need to look at it from their perspective. We now have a lot of direction but not one was solidly established. We have celestials, multiverse & incursion, secret invasion, monsters & mutants, and I'm even not including the D+ shows like Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Daredevil...it all shoots off towards different direction. If that's deliberate in order to diversify the MCU, then the reception they're getting now is perhaps by design? But how long can they sustain before it implodes?
Not going to lie, I love the idea for this video. So far, the Deep Dive rocks!
My first post-credit experience was with Superman - The Movie. Also, he left out the post-credit scene for "Bean".
I find it interesting how older films had credits up front
Awesome!!
Thanks!
Now this is the kind of video I'm talking about. This is what we deserve as fans. Go Gators.
Now I have to find out if there is a post credit scene for almost every movie I see in theaters.
I grew up listening to the credits music, thinking of it as a free John Williams concert. I remember dancing to the credits for Ghostbusters 2 on HBO. So, when Pirates of the Caribbean had a post-credit scene, I was pleasantly surprised. Now, I expect something at the end of every movie. I'm actually surprised when people leave a Marvel movie early.
'Patience' will always be my favorite, simply because it called us all out. :D
Going Postal on those post credit scene lists, that was hilarious. The Postal Dude would possibly approve, but, most likely not care!!!
You missed a much more important post credit scene after the Dean Martin one but LONG before any of the super hero ones. Steven Speilberg put a very clever post credit at the end of Young Sherlock Holmes where someone signs into the guestbook of the hotel with the name Moriarty.
In phase 1, it worked, because the end credit scenes were paid off in the next movie or two. They were like mini teaser trailers for the next movie.
I think one of the main problems is post credit scene's being leaked or posted online, which ruins the surprise.
God I love this new channel. So entertaining.
one time, a security gaurd tried to kick me out for watching all the credits of The Lone Ranger when Tonto is walking off in the distance. I was the only one in the theater. I said, "Why don't you just shut off the movie?
Overall, I love MCU end credits scenes whether they are important or not. They are usually diversified and keep me hyped up which is fine