HE MURDERED BACKPACKERS IN AUSTRALIA!
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Between December 1989 and April 1992, 7 young backpackers, all aged between 19 and 22,
vanished in New South Wales, Australia. What should have been the adventure of a lifetime
would prove to be a living nightmare leading to their untimely deaths. Their remains would
later be found in the Belanglo State Forest. Though badly decomposed, the bodies would
show signs of torture and a brutal end. One intended victim, however, would manage to
escape, and help police bring a ruthless, sadistic serial killer to justice. This is the chilling
account of the Backpacker Murders. This is the case of Ivan Milat
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Could u do the case of 15 year old Sebastian they lived on Leeds road in Huddersfield his mum nd step dad killed him
I suffer with horrendous insomnia Em, will definitely look into this xx
Em I would love to hear your take on the James/Hannah Tubbs case? It's extremely controversial and upsetting and I'd love your opinion
I just wanted to tell you that I watched many documentaries that you were in and you were always my favorite in documentaries. When I heard you had a youtube channel I was all over it. Your awesome girl I wish I could be half the woman you are. Yes people all the way in Canada know who you are. You do amazing work.
Aussie/kiwi here I loved your accent 😂😂😂 definitely more Aussie than kiwi tho
Never go past Belanglo without the chills setting in. It's sadly a magnificent wilderness area that's forever tainted by this monstrosity
I'm the same. Just the sign on the road between Sydney and Canberra sends chills down my spine.
This case hits hard. I went to college with James Gibson’s brother, and he and his girlfriend spent months and months travelling up and down the east coast, trying to find James and Deborah. It was a nightmare, a complete nightmare, and learning what actually happened to them made it beyond horrific. It was a time when it was fairly common for young people to go up to Northern New South Wales, find like minded souls, and drop out of sight for a while. Things were very easy going, informal, and the Rainbow Tribe has always been welcoming and easy going. I met a few suss people here in Melbourne through my friends who were part of that scene, a lot of people drifting in and out of Australia, usually gravitating to the next festival, or coming from wherever the last one was, here or overseas.
I’m not sure people are so trusting now.
But I am certain Milat is now experiencing eternal justice. What I feel about him is unprintable. But what this case highlights, intensely, is the difference between good and evil.
Emma when l saw you were doing this case, I had to prepare myself, brace myself. But honestly, I wouldn’t want anyone else to cover this case and honour the victims. May they Rest In Peace.🙏
I trust you Emma, I knew this would be sensitively handled. Thank you.🖤
@@LunHorak so true. Emma has done a really sensitive job on this, I couldn’t have listened if it was someone else, honest truth. I have in the past, but it actually gets harder over time as more is revealed. But this was done so well. These poor kids certainly deserve their stories to be heard, and told in this way. Thanks Lundz🙏
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Back in 1986 I worked in a Newsagent at Denham Court (a small shopping centre) near Liverpool, Sydney.He would come in at least 4/5 times a week to buy his daily paper, snacks & etc.We were even on a first name basis he'd call me Kimmy K & call him Ivan the terrible ,funny enough & he'd told me more than once.You dont know how terrible I am, which of course I laughed off...I had no idea as he was such a friendly & up beat kind of guy always with a smile and a joke.Never in a million years would I have thought that he was capable of what he done as he came across such a genuine & friendly guy.Shook me to the bone to see him years later on the news being found guilty of these horrendous crimes.It showed me how easy these Socialpaths can blend into society so easy.Thx Em's for sharing.Greeting from Oz ☺
OMG, just shows you.
MR. Onions deserves knighthood, we can't imagine how many lives he saved💞💞💞
Ivan Milat and Martin Bryant are the two names that will forever scar and change Australians.
Another brilliant coverage of a monster that shouldve been kept behind bars years before.
And the Bondi Monster
And John Bunting and Robert Wagner.
And Bilal Skaf
Hi there Emma and peeps I'm not on live just now because I've been diagnosed with breast cancer 🎀 and I'm going in for a full breast removal on Wednesday,...I've been waiting on this case so I will watch it and got to sleep ,hopefully I will be bk soon ,miss u all love to ur family emma 💖 x
All the best for a swift recovery from your surgery and complete remission in your near future. Make sure you lean on your support network during your battle.
Wow!! the research must have been extensive for this one Emma. You work so hard and never let us down. Can't wait for Sunday, tyvm. xx
Sadly, Emma got this one really wrong
Nothing new here that a few articles in the news haven’t covered. Also Emma presented a very poor opinion of the police in this case, which was not warranted. Nobody knew where those backpacker’s were when they disappeared. Missing reports were likely to have come from police stations across south Eastern Australia (a very big place and covering three different Australian states.
@Christine Speller read my comment. It’s a short synopsis 🤓
As an Australian, just hearing his name sends shivers through my core.
Thank you so much for your pronunciation of the places & I love your Aussie accent 😂 more Aussie videos mainly for this reason!
You deserve millions of subscribers!! You always do a fantastic job of telling the stories behind people who cannot 😢
One day 😉 x
Hi Emma Hariel here it would be a good idea to tell your guests to watch wolf creek 1+2 sheer madness Thanks@EmmaKennyTV
This is deffo a chilling case.... The film wolf creek definetly disturbed me.... Using the vast areas of Australia as his hunting ground.... Just glad for everyone that he no longer walks among us... RIP to all victims and their families.... Thanks Emma really love you're channel x
The wolf creek film is fiction was written to stop people getting in cars with strangers. The victims car wasn’t working and the killer had a tow truck to help them in the late afternoon . Milat was picking up hitchhikers during the daytime on the highways.
Hello. In answer to your question, yes the police did search after the bodies of Caroline and Joanne were found and they did cover the close vicinity but Deborah and James were found a considerable distance away. They weren't found nearby, at all. The Belanglo Forest is big, with rough and difficult terrain, broken up by gullies ridges etc. There was no indication there were other bodies in the woods after Caroline and Joanne were found. Nobody had any idea where the other backpackers had even disappeared, to be be fair. Could have been out of NSW entirely for all anyone knew.
Awww Emma thank you so much for covering this one Ivan Milat was the first serial killer documentaries I ever watch and it scared the crap out of me. These young kids were taken in the most terrifying ways. I also watched a documentary about Matthew and I just thought god evil must run through that family. Read the poem Matthew done while in prison it’s awful. Thanks again Em smashed it as ever ❤
I keep coming back because of the excellent content. I subbed due to Emma's cutting, yet adorably inoffensive sarcasm. So happy I found her!
I live in Australia and remember this so vividly. I also watched Wolf Creek... Scared the shit out of me... It really put me off travelling around my own country for a while..
During that time there was the Bondi Monster and the gay killings at Bondi too.... the 80s were mad in Australia. Predators are everywhere
@@beaulieuc8910 Oh Yes! I remember that too. Crazy enough I was living in Bondi at that time too. There was also the Martin Bryant case as well. And I do remember in the early/mid 90's there was some axe weilding maniac roaming around Sydney. Australia had some absolute nutcases. I'm sure we still do now
Another thing I have found to love about Emma's videos. Her "I DON'T KNOW (enter common sense here)". So sorry for the victims of the bad blood in this family. I cannot even imagine being someone enduring these horrific experiences while in the process of losing your life for this guy's sick pleasure. RIP to all of the victims mentioned in this case.
I am number 8 out of 10 children. And you are absolutely correct, Emma. Parents of large families rarely have time to dedicate to each child. I have always said that it didn’t even feel like my parents raised me. It was my older siblings that put the time & effort into that. My siblings fed us, put us to bed, took us on (mini) vacations, etc.
My parents were working to provide & tried to be there when they weren’t working. But, there are only so many hours in a day.
As well as the Hume highway Milat also travelled the Prince's highway and it is believed by many that there are bodies hidden along that highway too. Certainly there are more murders than those we know of.
Oh 100% there's more than those 7
He likely killed at least one, Peter Letcher, and tried to abduct another British man in the 1980s out past the Blue Mountains so there's possibly more buried out that way. He worked north of Sydney too and people disappeared from there at the same time.
This case has always made me feel sick to the core. What an absolute sick individual he was. RIP to all the victims 🙏😪
I love that they called it the backpack murders as apposed to the spinal cord killer or something about him. In so many cases we talk about nicknames that glorify serial killers instead of emphasizing the victims.
Thank you Emma, one of the most fearsome recollections of his horrors I have heard. He was rumoured to have murdered my childhood friend. RIP Michelle Pope 😢 💔
I have been waiting for this one. A few years ago I lived in the same street as Ivan’s brother Boris. Unlike Ivan, Boris was actually a really nice bloke.
From the start i am already in tears all murders are sad but when its young people it really upsets me this man was not human.
Wow! This was so horrific. As always Emma, your story telling made it bearable. Those poor innocent people. Just heartbreaking.
Great to see an updated truth on this one after watching several US documentaries over the years. So many different portrayals of Paul Onions experience. Thank you again Emma for truth over drama.xx
Love your programmes Emma, i noticed a photo of Boris Milat with others, this brother has spoken up for the victims and families, he has been estranged from the Milat Family for years and would be mortified by his image being with the others. Boris has been destroyed by the actions of his family and in no way wants to be associated with them.
As somebody that grew up after hitchhiking wasn't a thing anymore, it amazes me how common it used to be. It was no big deal to just get in some random strangers car and have them drive you somewhere. I'm sure the majority of trips were fine but hearing stories like this make my blood run cold.
To be frank, people have got more chance of dying in a crash in their own cars.
Another fantastic job Emma of providing the research whilst being compassionate to the victims. Another Australian case that might interest you is the Port Arthur massacre especially after the Nitram film.
And also the Snowtown murders?
Loving this so far Emma. Just a side note Balangalow state forest is located between Sydney and Canberra but it's not South Australia. It's in southern NSW. South Australia is another state...
I really admire the work you put into preparing these videos. I’m always impressed by the way you dissect these (horrific) cases.
Thanks Emma 💛
Hi Emma! I'm actually part of the more than 200 who've been waiting for your take on Ivan Milat. And as expected and more, you never disappoint! I just want to thank you though for, not just bringing up additional facts that I did not know before. I must have watched tons of docos on Milat, and I did not even see from any one of them the fact that he tried to fake his own death by using the famous suicide spot here in Syd "The Gap". As someone who moved here recently, it's just really helpful tbh that you always remind us that victims of serial killers, especially as vile as this one, are indeed human beings who were and will always be loved and missed. That they're not just body counts. I think that's what ticks me off in most crime shows. That they're more focused on sensationalizing these awful individuals who kill and destroy, and in a way end up dehumanizing the victims and ignoring their families' pain.
Your take as a psychologist and a n empathetic person is what really makes a difference. Truly. I've watched your takes on cases way before this yt channel and I'm forever a big fan. x
I first heard about this case on 60 minute Australia and WOW did it chill me to the core!
Wow! I’m looking forward to hearing this one - obviously every one of us down under know that name & I’d imagine that the majority have watched some content on this guy, but we all know that you are going to do such a thorough job on the research that we are going to discover so much more!!!
That's what happens when your in an Anglo Saxon shithole
@@donnablackman3954 - excuse me?
@@CheekyKoala you heard
Emma does such a grand job!! There is also an interesting woman whose name is Amanda Howard and she does a podcast (monsters who murder), however Amanda is known as the serial killer whisper and was in regular contact with Milat right up until his death. Really interesting to listen to.
@@chellewilson7730 if your kids got murdered see how you would feel about the glory then
Emma you are ,hands down the very BEST true crime channel on UA-cam! I’ve been a subscriber for over a year and you get better and better with each show. Your hubby does amazing work too! Thank you ❤
Aaaaand here's that consistency; can't wait for the crime! Love what you do and thank you for giving it everything you've got! 💕
Makes coffee .. settles in to listen. Seriously appreciate everything you do. The film scared the hell out of me so I’m watching this during the day xx
Emma you cover these cases so well. I am an Australian and have followed this case all the way but never to this detailed extent. I looooove the role plays you do with yourself. :)
I love them as well. Especially the sarcasm😂😂
I look forward to the two days a week you post. It’s the only way I get thru! Thank you!
Been trying to find a vid about this case for ages, so glad one of my favourite channels covered it. As some who has lived in Australia my whole life this hits that little bit different.
Love you girlie ❤
As a child of the 70’s who grew up watching John Jarret on playschool- I couldn’t even consider watching wolf creek (especially since the reviews were saying how chilling he was & knowing his previous stellar acting roles)
I’m so excited to watch this video, Ivan & his family were psychologically “interesting” individuals 🥴😵💫
Wolf Creek swore me off horror movies for life!
Nothin like rain water from the top end haha 😉🍻🇦🇺
Yes can’t wait for this one I have heard of this one who hasn’t but I am sure Emma will tell me something I didn’t know x
I’m Aussy. I grew up with this playing out. Thanks for covering this one Em. Looking forward to it. ❤
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You do crack me up with your impressions and role plays of defence etc. I know it’s a serious subject but his narcissism is so through the roof it is absurd
That was a masterclass in how to tell a story 👏 loved every minute of it
My husband does alot of trail bike riding and his trail bike group have often gone riding in Belangelo and they have come across the graves of the bodies that were found and he has explained to me the eeriness and sadness he felt. I got goosebumps and all my hair stood on ends. They often go riding there and everytime my husband stops and does a minutes silence. I believe there are more victims. R.I.P for the victims and for the victims not found. My sincere condolences to their families. May they find peace. 😞
I was a correctional officer in the facility where Matthew Milat and his co accused Cohen Klein are housed. I used to take him to work in the textiles unit every day, where he was a sewing machine mechanic. Funnily enough before his changes, his surname was NOT Milat. He changed it for notoriety ofcourse.
You hitched from Sydney to Darwin!?!? I've lived here for 54 years and have never even considered such a massive undertaking. Backpackers see more of our amazing country than most Australians. Such free spirits. Ivan's evil has cast a huge shadow ever since.
I just want to thank you Emma for a job well done on this case, not that you don't do a consistently good job on every episode. As an Australian living in NSW and as a young mum back in the years when Milat was "out hunting" you bought a lot of those feelings about the case back for me. I remember all the media coverage and the lines of Police in the forest inches apart looking for any clue they could possibly find to help solve the murders which Milat was responsible for. My ex husband was working in the Department of Corrections back then and although he never had any personal experience with Milat, I do remember Milat's notoriety as an absolute SOB and he was CONSTANTLY complaining about something and the PO's hated him. He was easily one of the most notorious prisoners in custody in NSW Prison's when he was alive and there were MANY evil predators inside at that time. When I look at the photos of his victims I see youthful wonderful and individuals keen to experience life in all its glory and that psychopath blew it all away and that was SO wrong! They would be in their 50's like I am now and they would have likely had interesting stories from their journeys to tell their OWN families and Milat stole those futures and their stories! I still remember listening to Carolyn's parents being interviewed and talking about their daughter and their grief was overwhelming. I wondered what my own parents would have said if I had been the one in THEIR country who had been murdered? I'm so glad that you mentioned the other possible cases which remain unsolved and to which Milat, on his death bed, refused to discuss because he KNEW how much the Police wanted him to come clean about, but he was going to maintain his silence and his control until the bitter end. I have NO doubt that his actual body count was MUCH higher than 7..As an ex RN who worked in Palliative Care giving my patients a "good death", if I had been nursing Milat upon his final illness, I would have done my job but given no extras as I enjoyed doing. But there would have been a degree of satisfaction watching him leaving THIS world and departing to a steamy Eternity in Hell to be greeted by Satan himself. "By their fruits you shall know them"! I hope that if ANY family member watches this video or reads these comments that they will understand that I, like the others here I believe, feel that this case was well done and respectful of the families and individuals involved. My sympathy goes to each of you who lost a loved one! fNow finally to Paul Onion: "Sir, you are a hero and THANK YOU for your courage in coming forward. I wish you all the best for a long and happy life"! Thanks Emma and I think I enjoy each episode I see better than the one before! Take care now!
When Milat was in his final days, he was expected to stay in hospital, however the Minister for Corrections in NSW ordered that he be returned to Long Bay Gaol to die behind bars as the sentence stipulated.
@@H.R.B. I didn't include this information in my comment but I actually worked in the Department of Corrections as an RN, but that was at a different maximum security prison and I had to retire several years ago due to ill health. I know that the hospital at Long Bay was where he died but I also know that the nursing staff would have treated him humanly, something that he actually didn't deserve having, I believe, forfeited his rights as a human being after torturing, AND enjoying, killing these young people who weren't doing anything wrong. He was a horrible man and I believe he is now reaping what he sowed! I used to go past the Belangelo State Forest frequently when my youngest daughter was at boarding school down past there at Bowral. It was a lovely drive down there but haunting going past the forest and I wonder to this day just who else could still be buried there. Thanks for your reply!
@@michellesartori6695 Thank you so much for your service to the community of Australia. I hope that you are recovering?
Nurses are the most forgiving and most merciful people in the world. They are awe inspiring.
@@H.R.B. Thank you Henry for your kind words. I absolutely LOVED being a nurse but I was born with a dislocated hip in late 1964 and I am grateful to have been operated on in 1966 as a baby and to have been given the gift of being able to walk normally for many years. But my Orthopaedic Surgeon back then warned my parents that eventually I would need a hip replacement and I would likely develop arthritis early which I did. By the time I was in my mid 40's I had had 8 orthopaedic surgeries and my hip at the moment is in a very advanced state of degeneration and even though I will get a hip replacement when I am mentally prepared for it it won't fix all the problems because my hip joint is degenerating all over the hip not just the ball and socket. My GP told me years ago that I picked the worst profession to go into becoming an RN and I eventually had no choice but to medically retire as I would leave after a shift and sit in the car and cry until I could settle myself enough to drive home. I spent my last 3 years of nursing working in Aged Care, long story there as to why, doing night shifts with just one other staff member and I said to myself that when I could no longer trust that if there was an emergency with a patient that I could walk there, as it was a very long building, and deal with the situation, that I would leave. I wasn't going to put someone else's life on the line because of my increasing pain and disability. But leaving was hard as I wanted to give something back because I got the opportunity to live a normal life due to the care which I received as a baby by the wonderful Nurses and Doctors back then. I didn't work in Corrections for that long and I worked in many different specialities but it was a privilege and an honour to be supporting patients during some of their most difficult days. I really felt bad after I said what I said about Milat because he was STILL a human being and a higher power than I will judge him and its not my place to do so, but he WAS evil. All the best to you and thanks for your reply!
I would love for you to cover the Paul Denyer .. great case coverage yet again ❤ .. thanks Emma xx
Emma Kenny: Australia is perfect for hiding bodies because of the vast wilderness
Emma Kenny two minutes later: police were incompetent and didn’t care because they didn’t search the entire vast wildness for bodies with no evidence of where they were or even if they were dead
I think the point was that many of these disappearances weren't investigated properly, as law enforcement were paid to do 🤔
@@k_j_n1242 I agree. I mean surely it would be worrying that all these tourists were going missing
@@k_j_n1242 I mean that’s convenient for her to say with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. She does this all the time and it’s offensive to professionals(and not just police) who know more than her. Police knew these people were missing, but searching the entire vast wilderness for someone who might not even be dead is not realistic. People go missing all the time. Even if you have good reason to think someone is dead and have an idea of the general area the body might be in, it’s still easy to miss the body. It happens all the time. Dozens or even hundreds of people search an area and find nothing then later on the body is found in that area and they missed it.
@@PrincessVelaryon police have to act responsibly and don’t have the manpower or funds to go all out on every possibility. I’m sure they were not ignoring the situation, but almost always when an adult goes missing there is another reason besides a serial killer. It’s extremely rare. You notice in this story once the police have an actual lead to go on they solve it pretty effectively and arrest the man responsible. It’s easy for people to make whatever judgements after they know all the facts of a case but it’s different when you’re in the situation and don’t have all the facts yet
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Agree. And Deborah and James were found a considerable distance away from Caroline and Joanne, in a huge forest with rough terrain, gullies and ridges etc.
Nobody had any idea where the backpackers disappeared. Could have been in another state. Nobody saw them being picked up by Milat and driven to Belanglo. They could have been literally anywhere.
I still remember when the song Runaway Train came out by Soul Asylum and in the Aussie version it had pictures of all of Ivan Milats victims. After the murders were discovered they took the clip down and amended it and its lost now but its so creepy looking back on it.
My worst fear is to come across a body/crime scene. I honestly can't say how I would react.
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My grandfather had this and found someone at the bottom of the stairs dead, he simply called the police and kept his sh** together… nothing else you can do, just remember it’s not you on the ground,
@@MeHoyMinoy-cv3ps I would freak out. 25 years ago a friend of mine found a body until this day I asked her so many questions because I am just like how were you able to get through this because being the second person removed I can't get over it.
@@giseljimenez7584 it definitely would be scary and a shock, I totally agree!
So glad you covered this one! xoxo
Hi Emma. I have seen this case lots of times, but never ever in the with the full story that you told tonight. Your research is absolutely amazing. Much respect to you and yours. ❤
I remember watching this film and it stayed with me for so long, when he cut that girls spine rendering her paralysed but still completely aware of what he was doing do her, I just could not get that scene out of my head.
Ivan is a real life monster
Loving your take on it though Emma !!
Can you perhaps tell me the films title ? Thanks you 😃
@@dvangils227 it’s called wolf creek, its meant to be based on Ivan Milat. It’s a good film but I’ll never watch it again.
@@lindseyhallam5428 thank you , but i notice it was a bit of a dumb question . Considering the title of this episode ☺️🙃
You always do Justus to the victim and the family you’re wonderful.
Thank you for doing this story. Wonderful story telling. I always remember they are real people.
Thank you so much for all of your hard work Emma & family. ❤
emma is really funny she makes me laugh with her humour especially when she goes into her own little worldx
I love that Emma truly understands the, “Before & after” of traumatic loss. Very few people seem to really get it…❤️🌹❤️
If they do, they don’t mention it.
And it’s something you will never understand until you deal with it, to be fair.
People will always think they do. “Well I’ve learned about what this process is like and so I understand-“
No. You don’t. Because I thought I did. Until my number came up and it was my turn to experience it.
You have no idea what you’re about to deal with. Grief? That’s the gentlemanly outcome. That’s the best case scenario.
What you’re likely to have to manage? Rage. Incredible, inhospitable rage, even at the lost one. At everyone. Fear, panic, weird moments of giddy joy that make no sense. Delusion, my god. Existential worry. It’s so vast and so not just grief.
I remember the film and I never forget it either
His nephew is in jail for murder
Emma is such a beautiful person inside and out. xx
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I am currently visiting family in Nowra NSW which is 1hr and 22mins drive from Balangalo State Forest. I was living here from 1996 to 1999 and as a teenager at the time it was very much a part of our lives. Nobody I knew would have ever hitchhiked.
Welcome back, looking forward to another great deep dive! Never stop Emma! 😀
Thank you! So interested to hear this one. I’m from Australia and was one of those requesters.
Should check out Katherine Knight when you get a chance. I can’t remember if you’ve done that one already. So putting it here anyway lol
Not enough out there for a good deep dive I’m afraid. We researched as much as we possibly could but it would just sound like every other video on her. X
Great vid , very interesting, could you do the Darrell brooks case , I would love to see what you found out about him .
Thank You for covering this case Emma ❤
Many thanks Emma for another excellent case coverage. I really appreciate the Aussie crime being researched by you and your team. I too was travelling around at about that time, young and bulletproof. Although not hitch hiking, even though I had many times, I was still pretty vulnerable looking back - fruit picking and constantly stoned in a semi reliable Kombi van in remote areas, so I too feel like that could have easily been me! Had a ball though! I also relate to what you said regarding the movie reference. I watched the movie depicting the Snowtown murders and could barely finish it! Truly terrifying stuff. I would love to see you cover that case at some point. Super close to home for me. Much love and appreciation ❤
Hi from Australia Emma, I've been wanting you to cover this one for so long, thankyou 😘
"When someone murders someone, it's sadistic." - lol that bit made me laugh so hard!
I’m Australian very familiar with this case, the police did the job it’s very hard the area these bodies were found a huge, very dense forest. The people who found them it was just luck and they didn’t realise it first backpackers were going missing and a lot of people go missing to Linc them is not that simple love the videos you do a great job
Is the movie wolf creek based on this Emma it sounds so much like that movie and the monster in that movie is so scary x
Awesome coverage of this case Emma. Accolades from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
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Since you've been doing a few analysis of Australian serial killers maybe you should take a look at the Snowtown murders. John Bunting is quite possibly one of the most dangerous individuals I've come across.
That case is coming xx
Hi Emma
It's very rare a horror film traumatizes me as well, but Wolf Creek truly did. I agree with you about Australian film makers having a knack for portraying these disturbing subjects intensely well. I wonder if you have watched "Hounds of love" based upon the crimes of David and Catherine Birnie?
Luv ya! 😘
I think Ivan and some of his brothers worked together at petty crime and at the very least they knew about the killings if not helped.
Im tripping they knew about them, but I dont think they helped with the actual murders
Have you heard of the story of Matthew? Ivan Milat's nephew who followed in his footsteps, don't know if you've covered that, if not -- there's an idea
Canberra is not in South Australia, Canberra is a territory between New South Wales and Victoria
Very true never run in a straight line away from someone with a gun.
Thanks em, stay safe everyone, wherever you are in the world 🌎
Another brilliant rendition of horror killings! Thank you Emma! 🥰
"Bang to Rights" the like button!
Not enough coppers in NSW to search the whole of Belangelo.... with respect, just a fact
I watched a documentary about Milat a few years ago and although I came upon others, I didn't have the stomach to listen to the story again until I heard that you would guide us through the completely disturbing reality of what those poor backpackers must have experienced in their last moments here on earth. It feels a little safer hearing these horror stories when you are telling them because of the compassion that you have for the victims.
I wish I shared your belief that there would be an eternity of retribution waiting for the likes of him in the hereafter. I think the prison guards should have made use of what I think was the last chance of some measure of justice and instead of giving him pain medicine on his deathbed perhaps rather built a small brick fire and applied some hot incentive to his remaining little finger to give closure to the families of other victims. They may have gotten a little more co-operation out of him
I also hope that the policeman who took the initial statement of Paul Onion was traced and suitably disciplined for gross dereliction of duties and criminal failure of connecting the dots and lack of showing initiative.
It is extremely disturbing to contemplate that there may be others like him out there. The world after Covid-19 became more dysfunctional and I heard a story recently of two sixteen-year-old youths beating their Spanish teacher to death with baseball bats because she refused to give one of the entitled brats a grade that he did not deserve. If anything, the world is more dysfunctional today than what it was in the late eighties and early nineties, and I don't even want to contemplate what horrors sick and disturbed predators may get up to in these times. I really don't understand why some innocent souls fall prey to sadistic predators have to endure such degrading and nightmarish deaths and when we will be able to spot the reject sadists who enjoy inflicting pain and debasing life and remove them from society before they are able to torture, maim, and kill.
Statistically the world is a lot less violent than it was in the. 70s and 80s but the perception of crime is worse . By product of information technology I'm afraid ,we hear about it a lot more
@@steveknott4255 That is an interesting statement, but where are you getting the statistics on which you base your observation?
I searched for statistics and was not able to find any that included the entire world. It appears that one of the issues making it difficult to obtain comparable statistics is that different countries all have their own criteria for recording statistics. Furthermore - are you referring to homicide only or any violent crime and does this include violence resulting from war and genocide?
I would love to believe that the world is becoming less violent, but in South Africa - where I live - violent crime is on the increase.
Great episode, thank you. This is one of the most interesting cases of serial murder and I have watched many programmes about it. In one the point was made that Ivan Milan didn’t drink liquor and the question was raised whether the contents of the alcohol bottles found had been consumed by an accomplice/co-perpetrator, or by an alter-ego living in Ivan’s physical body. I would be interested to hear your take on this.
I agree about Wolf Creek - the villain even looked so like Milan he could have been playing him in scene-reconstruction sections of a documentary. Same modus operandi except for how he got hold of his victims. That was pure Bradley Murdoch, the man convicted in the Peter Falconio case, another intriguing Australian tourist murder. Apparently there were protests about screening the movie while Murdoch’s trial was pending.
Thank you Emma🤗 This one had me in the edge of my seat✌️💜✌️
I lived in Australia when this was happening but I was in Perth I came back to the UK in 2015 after he had been caught put regularly watched it on the news. I also watched wolf creek and that scared the hell out of me too. Then they brought out wolf creek 2 but I never watched it not after the first one. He was a monster.
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Also, thanks for the episode on the infamous Ivan Milat
@emma Kenny and @dusted media thank you for your hard work again and yes you did justice
Emma, have you ever thought of being a comedienne ???? Because for crying out loud you make me laugh all the time! Lol your own back and forth dialogue you do !! Thank you for making me laugh !
Nice one Emma, pure Classic
Paralyzing them tells them that nothing about them matters. If he chooses to have sex with them they don't matter enough to even feel it, if he chooses to cut them they won't know to what extent or be able to defend themselves. They are nothing anymore but a body to please him. That's what so sadistic about the spine injuries to me - the first time I heard about this case.
Great look into these awful crimes,close to home for me,a Aussie who knows Belangalo,such vast place it hides so much more of his victims too i feel as well,evil monster,every moment in hell is hopefully happening too,you done a good job on this most evil acts.
...actually, what isn't widely known & reported, is that his death wasn't that comfortable ...the prison took him to the local hospital for palliative care, and the hospital went "ooooh, sorry. we don't have any spare beds!!!" ...so he had to be taken back to die in the prison infirmary. where they don't have the end-of-life drugs that the hospitals have!
There is no evidence of your version of events. Well, not according to the coroner's findings which is open to any one to read online. There was a hoo ha because the death was made public before the NOK was informed and the brother did question the care given but his care was deemed adequate and appropriate.
@@zanzibirdzanzibird1340 is not what you know in this life... it's WHO you know!
That is so welcome to hear - he should have been hanged at the time …..
I would love to see Australia not to hike, but the beauty! The scary part is the poisonous animals, sharks (because that’s were I’d be walking along a beach) alligators, snakes etc…is scary for me! Hopefully I’ll be there someday.
Really Emma you’re lucky you survived that experience in your life! I’m glad you did and also got to see all the beautiful country Australia has to offer!
I watch Bondi pets and vets which has Scott in England, a vet in the USA in Georgia and several others in various places in Australia so I see many lovely animals and scenic places in Australia. I also watch Bondi rescue which is filmed on Bondi beach and all is gorgeous 😁
Very dark subject matter, but brilliantly put across.