The (Staggering) Siege of Haarlem 1572/73 | Eighty Years' War

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  • On the 11th December of 1572, a Spanish army under the command of Fadrique Álvarez de Toledo arrived at the Dutch town of Haarlem. This marked the beginning of a siege characterized by cruelties on both sides, a sea battle on the Haarlemmermeer and the arming of citizens to defend their town - most famous of all a woman called Kenau Simonsdochter Hasselaer. The siege of Haarlem was one of the most discussed and most vividly remembered sieges of the Eighty Years’ War. There is a 2014 movie titled “Kenau”, various stage plays, historical novels and even a siege-themed escape room in modern-day Haarlem. This is how contemporary historiography tells the story of the staggering siege of Haarlem:
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    Bibliography:
    Primary Sources:
    Alva, Duke of, Epistolario del lII Duque de Alba, 3 vol, Madrid 1952.
    Vazquez, A., Los Sucesos in Flandes y Francia, in Coleccion de Documentos Ineditos para la Historia de Espana, LXXII-LXXV, Madrid 1879-80, book IX.
    Mendoza, B. de, Comentarios de 10 Sucedido en las Guerras de los Paises-Bajos, 1567-1577, in Rivadeneyra, (1853), Book IX, Chapter XI.
    Literature
    Duffy, C., The Fortress in the Early Modern World 1494-1660, London 1979.
    Geyl, P., The Revolt of the Netherlands (1555-1609), New York 1958.
    Israel, J., The Dutch Republic. It’s Rise, Greatness and Fall, Oxford 1995.
    Townsend B. S., Great Sieges of History: The Sacking of Haarlem, in: The Cosmopolitan 39 (Aug. 1905), p. 447-453.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 641

  • @SandRhomanHistory
    @SandRhomanHistory  3 роки тому +252

    Edit: Since it keeps popping up in your comments. Caesar is not part of early modern history. Thus our statement about the first use of circum and contravallation trenches "in the early modern period" is perfectly fine. That's why we chose the wording in the first place. We even mentioned Ceasar in our video on how to lay siege to a star fortress since we are well aware that it is common knowledge that caesar already did this.
    To whomever suggested us to look into the siege of Haarlem: Here you go! and thanks again! Any suggestions for other sieges?

    • @gabrielvanhauten4169
      @gabrielvanhauten4169 3 роки тому +5

      Vienna, helm deep and constinople

    • @ProvidenceNL
      @ProvidenceNL 3 роки тому +29

      Siege of Leiden. Another fascinating siege, alot of them in the 80-year war!
      edit: As other people have said here, before the Siege of Leiden, the Siege of Alkmaar, it would be a logical next step since the fall of Haarlem led to these sieges!

    • @indrako
      @indrako 3 роки тому +1

      @@ProvidenceNL yup, this is an epic tale!

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 3 роки тому +6

      @@ProvidenceNL : This siege was very important. I recently read some work that was published right after the siege. I was shocked by the violence and brutality. Especially the fighting between Castilian tercios and Zeelandic Calvinists volunteers in the breaking of the siege was of extreme brutality. No prisoners were made and some calvinists even ate the hearts of captured Spanish soldiers.

    • @archenema6792
      @archenema6792 3 роки тому +1

      How about the seige where Bohemond stole an army from his brother Bursa and his uncle Roger and took it to the First Crusade? I'm not sure the name of the town was even properly recorded.

  • @farzet90
    @farzet90 3 роки тому +425

    defender: haha want some of these bread spaniards? *throws their last bread
    spaniards: *fully blockade the city
    defender: well shit

    • @GuilhermeSouza-ux4jq
      @GuilhermeSouza-ux4jq 3 роки тому +42

      Defender: I miss that bread I've threw away last week

    • @cn.st.182
      @cn.st.182 3 роки тому +3

      Guilherme Souza aw, man, thanks for explaining. what would we do without you?

    • @kerimozdemir4009
      @kerimozdemir4009 3 роки тому +2

      Never waste what god provided for you although i dont know well siege history. Its a pattern i see on western sieges i think a muslim would never do that it would be nice some one knows better can point out a muslim defender taunting enemy with food

    • @hendrikdependrik1891
      @hendrikdependrik1891 3 роки тому +12

      @@kerimozdemir4009 Indeed. The Ottomans didn't do anything with food when they conquered Constantinople while the French invented croissants to celebrate the European victory over the Ottomans at the Siege of Vienna.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia 3 роки тому +4

      @@kerimozdemir4009 Why does it matter?

  • @mariocassina90
    @mariocassina90 3 роки тому +226

    Haarlem, where hiip hoop was born

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 роки тому +11

      That's another Harlem...

    • @pietromeroni2023
      @pietromeroni2023 3 роки тому +36

      @@LuisAldamiz whooosh

    • @alphahelix7948
      @alphahelix7948 3 роки тому +16

      @@LuisAldamiz No no, you're thinking of hip hop

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 роки тому +8

      @@alphahelix7948 - Fair enough. XD

    • @klausbrinck2137
      @klausbrinck2137 3 роки тому +4

      @@LuisAldamiz Always these people who answer, without even reading the original comment first... ;-)

  • @noah-jazz
    @noah-jazz 3 роки тому +42

    I'm just vibing here in Haarlem watching how thousands got slaughtered on and underneath the ground I walk upon every single day

    • @JValentineV
      @JValentineV 3 роки тому +1

      Haha same here 👊🏼

    • @teijerokosch3441
      @teijerokosch3441 3 роки тому +1

      eigenlijk zit ik net in overveen....

    • @jorenprins5947
      @jorenprins5947 3 роки тому +1

      Haha zelfde

    • @malorkie
      @malorkie 3 роки тому +1

      Zelfde hier, born and raised ;)

    • @rickleloux6944
      @rickleloux6944 3 роки тому

      Mooiste stad van t land, groetjes uit Haarlem
      Noord haha

  • @gabrielinostroza4989
    @gabrielinostroza4989 3 роки тому +67

    I'm still taken by how brutal and grindy the warfare during this period was, it feels completely at odds with the medieval wars preceeding it and the modern period succeeding it, it feels like a snippet of word war one with pikes.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia 3 роки тому +13

      I think it also was more brutal because the Dutch were seen as rebels. Rebels where maybe treated worse than normally would be the case.

    • @bteuben-faber8215
      @bteuben-faber8215 3 роки тому +7

      Every war is brutal and cruel: The amount of fighting citizens and hired soldiers was less, but what does it matter when you are brutally killed yourself?

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 3 роки тому +5

      Religious wars are always very brutal.

    • @andro7862
      @andro7862 3 роки тому +1

      As the saying goes, war ain't a picnic.

    • @kyomademon453
      @kyomademon453 3 роки тому

      @@5thMilitia they turned to heretical beliefs and spain had 0 tolerance of that bs back in the day lol

  • @LarryCroft111
    @LarryCroft111 3 роки тому +45

    Your work is outstanding.

  • @alejandroblanco2754
    @alejandroblanco2754 3 роки тому +95

    As a Spaniard I can say you're always fair and impartial. I'm loving the siege videos please keep it up!

  • @piotrzbies8683
    @piotrzbies8683 3 роки тому +47

    I'd love to see a film about Siege of Smolensk (one from 1632) which is probably the rare case of destruction of the double circumvallatian system in XVII century siege warfare.

    • @bv2623
      @bv2623 Рік тому

      There is a Russian movie (1612) on the Polish-Lithuanian invasion of Russia and a siege on Smolensk, but it is in the early 1600's. It features the Poles having Dutch and Swedish mercenaries attacking Russian Smolensk

  • @astrumespanol
    @astrumespanol 3 роки тому +257

    Is this Haarlem from where Harlem neighborhood in NYC takes its name?

    • @erniegutierrez2288
      @erniegutierrez2288 3 роки тому +44

      Its funny that there is a "Spanish Harlem" in NYC too (is actually called East Harlem though)

    • @SardaukarSentinel
      @SardaukarSentinel 3 роки тому +54

      Yes it is. But remember that the spelling back then was somewhat different. Haarlem was written as "Haerlem", with AE, as well as the city of Alkmaar was written as "Alkmaer". After the English takeover in 1665, i guess this is what the English thought how you pronounced Haerlem, so it became Harlem.
      Also, the area which is now Harlem was called Nieuw Haarlem.

    • @maozedong44
      @maozedong44 3 роки тому +10

      @@erniegutierrez2288 its called spanish because there are a lot of hispanics living there that moved in recently. Like little italy or china town.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 3 роки тому +23

      Astrum Español
      New Amsterdam it was, the red coats took it over till the revolutionary war.
      The Dutch never left New York, still a dutch city, Stuyvensant, Vanderbild etc...

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 3 роки тому

      @@erniegutierrez2288 in these days, every minority was living in his own community! So they called it Spanish Harlem.

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 3 роки тому +38

    As I was born and raised in Haarlem, there was a lot of attention to this topic at our school. One of the interesting things that the teacher told, was that the siege of Haarlem, although lost, was so costly to the Spaniards that they could not maintain the siege of Alkmaar thereafter anymore. I wonder if there is any substance in that, or if it is just regional chauvinism.

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 2 роки тому +3

      This video seems to support your teacher's statement.

    • @aramos3639
      @aramos3639 4 місяці тому

      Besieging fortified places is a massive resource drain because the attacker needs to bring up so much effort. By doing that resources that could have been used elsewhere are tied up

    • @lars7747
      @lars7747 3 місяці тому

      In Alkmaar we learn that the Spanish were weakened at Haarlem before besieging us. The Spanish just ignored the heavy losses cause Alkmaar had barely any defenses. They just kept making the same mistakes

  • @samukai5802
    @samukai5802 3 роки тому +92

    The video is great, I really enjoyed it, your dutch pronounciation is quite good.
    Oh and yeah...
    G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @oisnowy5368
      @oisnowy5368 3 роки тому +2

      Actually not, feudal system and inheritance.

    • @loekert3749
      @loekert3749 3 роки тому +3

      Zeg makker

    • @samukai5802
      @samukai5802 3 роки тому +4

      @@oisnowy5368 what? I'm very confused

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 3 роки тому

      Wouldn't it be the Dutch being colonized, if colonized at all?

    • @SeBas14gaBriel24
      @SeBas14gaBriel24 3 роки тому +3

      @@jevinliu4658 whoosh

  • @clintmoor422
    @clintmoor422 3 роки тому +41

    amazing content as always. you really are criminally underrated my friend. keep it!

  • @5thMilitia
    @5thMilitia 3 роки тому +13

    You are quickly becoming my favorite history channel. No other channel covers so much siege warfare and 80 years war history. Thanks man👍

  • @WoWsBestMoments
    @WoWsBestMoments 3 роки тому +6

    Excellent content. This is one of the few channels for which I have the notifications enabled.

  • @mariushunger8755
    @mariushunger8755 3 роки тому +123

    If there's water within reach of the dutch, the others will have a hard time for sure...

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 роки тому +2

      Even if it is saltwater!

    • @davitxenko
      @davitxenko 3 роки тому +11

      The Dutch are waterbenders confirmed?

    • @hansybarra
      @hansybarra 3 роки тому +1

      And they must be in constant alert so as not to be surprised by a flash flood that comes out of nowhere.

    • @timvanveen6894
      @timvanveen6894 3 роки тому

      davitxenko yes i can confirm this is true al dutch people can bend water

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому

      One cannot underplay water in reach of Spain/Portugal too, however. It evens the match

  • @bruh-vr5um
    @bruh-vr5um 3 роки тому

    Your work is amazing, thank you so much for this. Can you carry on shedding light on unheard pieces of history.

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 3 роки тому +5

    A new page of brilliantly illustrated and told history, I really like the passage on the underground battle... But I would not have liked to be there! Great video!

  • @pierreofmontecristo2730
    @pierreofmontecristo2730 3 роки тому

    Really well done video, thank you for making this!

  • @jarnonelis1518
    @jarnonelis1518 3 роки тому +1

    i have been waiting for this! thank you for talking about my hometown!

  • @Wolf_Larsen
    @Wolf_Larsen 3 роки тому +231

    Rare footage of the world cup final 2010, colorized.

    • @higochumbo8932
      @higochumbo8932 3 роки тому +43

      If the Spanish had used vuvuzelas instead of cannon fire, the dutch would have surrendered in a couple hours.

    • @RaggaBaby
      @RaggaBaby 3 роки тому

      Lol don't remember us,

    • @someonesilence3731
      @someonesilence3731 3 роки тому

      The Spanish cheat.

    • @markvanderknoop131
      @markvanderknoop131 3 роки тому +3

      History returns
      still fighting of the plundering southern country's

    • @robvoncken2565
      @robvoncken2565 3 роки тому +1

      lol but this one WE won

  • @maurivandenheuvel8149
    @maurivandenheuvel8149 3 роки тому +2

    Your videos are of great quality: the maps, story and artwork are 🔥

  • @EricvanDorp007
    @EricvanDorp007 2 роки тому +6

    I have seen a few uploads about my country The Netherlands in the 80-year war with Spain and my compliments about what I saw, I knew about the 80 years of war but this makes it way more understandable. Thank you for that! SandRhoman History

    • @jaimesoler5543
      @jaimesoler5543 5 місяців тому

      The 80 years' war was a civil war, between Catholics and Protestants who took refuge in the north, there was no hatred towards Spain, and many Belgians fought in the Spanish army.

  • @leagueoflags
    @leagueoflags 3 роки тому

    Absolutely stunning, keep up the excellent work!

  • @sjoerdadlp
    @sjoerdadlp 2 роки тому

    Amazing. I applaud you sir for making this - I loved watching it!

  • @l3ucl1
    @l3ucl1 3 роки тому

    Amazing video, i love the visuals!

  • @Jack-Hands
    @Jack-Hands 3 роки тому +48

    I suspect that the famous "Siege of Leiden" is in the pipeline for a future episode.

    • @prisonguy9572
      @prisonguy9572 3 роки тому +3

      I hope so, would love to see a vid about Leiden

    • @MLWitteman
      @MLWitteman 3 роки тому +3

      And Alkmaar of course!

    • @mrjules1982
      @mrjules1982 3 роки тому +6

      The sieges of Alkmaar and Leiden are the inevitable sequel to the siege of Haarlem.
      Haarlem lost the battle eventually, but they bought the rebels some time to rally and proved that the Spaniards were not, in fact, invincible... This emboldened the rebels in Alkmaar and Leiden. And their resistance was successful in the end.
      The Spanish soldiers stew that they left in their camps as they broke the siege of Leiden is a national dish to this day: hutspot.
      'By Alckmaar begint de victorie'. This ultimately led to the liberation of Haarlem as well, and the establishment of the Dutch republic.

    • @NajxxTrebla
      @NajxxTrebla 3 роки тому

      I'd love to see a video about the town i live in!

  • @upliftspice6282
    @upliftspice6282 3 роки тому

    Amazing channel sir, keep up the good work !

  • @hawkeye4659
    @hawkeye4659 3 роки тому

    Great work guys, please continue the good work. 🙌

  • @Royhkz
    @Royhkz 3 роки тому +13

    As a Dutchman I can really appreciate your videos about the 80 years war. I never saw or learnt anything about the battles that were fought. What has been taught at high school was more about politics. We learnt about the assassination of Willem van Oranje, commander Alva with his big army, the battle of ten Briel at 1st of April or something like that, and the capture of the Spanish Silver fleet. But I was wondering, are you Dutch as well or why are you so interested in the 80 years war? Anyway, keep up the good work!

    • @jjakjjak5231
      @jjakjjak5231 3 роки тому +3

      Read 'van nul tot nu', a famous comic book which is historically very accurate. If you've read that you know more Dutch history than most people learn in school.

    • @JohanHerrenberg
      @JohanHerrenberg 3 роки тому +1

      Johan van Oranje? Willem! And there was a Johan beheaded: Van Oldenbarnevelt.

    • @marks.6480
      @marks.6480 3 роки тому +1

      Johan van Oranje? Niet echt goed opgelet he?

    • @JayzsMr
      @JayzsMr 3 роки тому

      He is Swiss I think

  • @ScottStratton
    @ScottStratton 3 роки тому +14

    A wonderful series and excellent work by you to bring it to life with accuracy and interest! I can think of no better suggestions, though, than the Great Siege of 1565 - Malta: Ottomans vs. the Hospitallers - one of the greatest, most important sieges in Western History!

    • @Gutbomber
      @Gutbomber Рік тому

      Knights of St John!

    • @jaimesoler5543
      @jaimesoler5543 5 місяців тому

      They resisted thanks to the Spanish, although you like to eliminate that part of history

    • @jaimesoler5543
      @jaimesoler5543 5 місяців тому

      @@Gutbomber They resisted thanks to the Spanish, although you like to eliminate that part of history

  • @ninjabunnyzz
    @ninjabunnyzz 3 роки тому

    Great video, as always.

  • @malorkie
    @malorkie 3 роки тому

    I’m born and raised in Haarlem (yes, the one in this video) and I never seen such a detailed video regarding this siege. Thank you!

  • @JuiceStainded
    @JuiceStainded 2 роки тому +3

    You should consider doing a video of the Siege of Leiden. It was part of the same war and they were eventually saved by flooding the surrounding area, allowing a group of privateers called the Sea Beggars to sail in and save them.

  • @jajaja1282
    @jajaja1282 3 роки тому

    Let’s gooo a new vid I’ve been binging your channel all week lol

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing2902 Рік тому

    Again Thank You .

  • @sytsebakker
    @sytsebakker 3 роки тому

    Wow! I didn't know that much of my hometown. Now I do a little bit more.
    Thanks for the great info and animated historical lesson.

  • @Yomabo
    @Yomabo 3 роки тому +5

    I love that I live on the location where the ship battle took place. I love in the Haarlemmermeer. No lake no more.

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 3 роки тому +1

      Personally I would not want to be buried in the Haarlemmermeer, but hey, everybody his own thing.

  • @mtathos_
    @mtathos_ 3 роки тому

    After your antwerp video it became my favourite late medieval siege, thx for being great

  • @KDOERAK
    @KDOERAK 3 роки тому

    In Haarlem, I used to work at an office in the Kenau park; sadly, did not know a thing about its history. Thx for your work.

  • @matthewreyes2401
    @matthewreyes2401 3 роки тому +1

    1:44 it’s amazing that they used ceasers implementation of two trenches one for the town and one for the attackers, amazing stuff.

  • @TheSaintArmando
    @TheSaintArmando 3 роки тому

    Could you do the siege of Lochem ? It has a very interesting story!
    Awesome video's thank you!

  • @NotFlappy12
    @NotFlappy12 3 роки тому +8

    I really love this channel.
    One of the things I noticed is that you always try to pronounce names and words as correctly as possible, so I would like to help by pointing out that your pronunciation of Dutch words with "ui" in them could be better, the best way to learn the correct pronunciation is to look up the sound, as it is hard to describe with English sounds. My best attempt at describing it would be similar to "oy", but with an "uh" sound instead of an o.
    This is not meant as a critique, as it doesn't at all distract from the great video. But I am just trying to help

  • @michals4249
    @michals4249 3 роки тому

    interesting video, thank you

  • @xavierpetit9759
    @xavierpetit9759 3 роки тому

    One of the best channels I know thank you !

  • @yavyav2281
    @yavyav2281 3 роки тому +3

    I love how you represent the boats, idk why, its just beautiful.

  • @formepvp
    @formepvp 3 роки тому

    Interesting video. Liked and subbed.
    What programme do you use to make the videos? Powerpoint?

  • @jdekkers3262
    @jdekkers3262 3 роки тому +7

    The quality of your videos is noticably improving and as you can perhaps tell from my profile picture, I like the subject. Keep it up!

    • @foetsie85
      @foetsie85 2 роки тому

      Als je van de 80jarige oorlog hou dan beveel ik je defragged history aan op yt zij duikt er echt heel diep in

  • @henkvandenbergh1301
    @henkvandenbergh1301 4 місяці тому

    Having moved from Haarlem to Colorado back in 1981 I was happily surprised a few years later at a flea-market: "Het Beleg Van Haarlem" door P. Visser. The book has been sitting in my office now for over 30 years. Maybe time to re-read.

  • @edwardtheblackprince2722
    @edwardtheblackprince2722 3 роки тому +3

    I love your videos. Pure quality. But I don't understand why you don't do them chronologically (regarding eighty years war). Why are you going backwards?

  • @christopherfranklin972
    @christopherfranklin972 3 роки тому

    Don Fadrique had obviously learned little from his Maltese experience,this is a fascinating period of history and I thoroughly enjoyed your video.

  • @daan1196
    @daan1196 3 роки тому +15

    I live in Haarlem and love to learn more about this

    • @Snibble
      @Snibble 3 роки тому +1

      Groetjes uit de vijfhoek! :)

    • @MLWitteman
      @MLWitteman 3 роки тому

      Groeten vanaf de Zijlweg!

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 3 роки тому

      Daa N
      In the eye of the beholder, this is just the basics, is it any correct?
      you should study the local books, what can you still find now, how can we make this more accurate.

    • @Snibble
      @Snibble 3 роки тому

      lucas rem yeah I origanaly am from Amsterdam and was told this in school.. also once they captured the city they got so tired of chopping of heads they in stead tied them together and chucked them into the Spaarne (local canal)

    • @MLWitteman
      @MLWitteman 3 роки тому

      Theoneandmarlboroman you mean the river Spaarne? It’s not a canal.

  • @carlweiser5697
    @carlweiser5697 3 роки тому +7

    Caesar used double wall seige tactic when he fought Gauls at Alesium against Vercingeteroux.

  • @noemiekramer7699
    @noemiekramer7699 3 роки тому +35

    Women to the walls!
    Thank you for mentioning the role of the women of Haarlem during the siege!

    • @tatjanafrijns5077
      @tatjanafrijns5077 3 роки тому +2

      @Tattle Boad sorry but the story of Kenau is false, it is a legend, not based on facts, there is no proof that this woman fought/ leading a womans army, others information about her is true. but not this! also wrong perspective. unlikey that a woman in that time stood on the city wall and knew how to fight against army men. However. because Haarlem was under siege, it was farr more likely that everyone did something to keep going

    • @Isidoros47
      @Isidoros47 3 роки тому

      @@tatjanafrijns5077 Actually, there are many examples of (some) fighting women all over the Middle ages. Also, the walls themselves give a high combat advantage to the defender so its nowhere near unrealistic a band of agressive women could succesfully defend the walls. I wouldn't dismiss the story as false prematurely...

  • @Nakai_the_Wanderer
    @Nakai_the_Wanderer 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoy your videos and would also applaud you on the choice of music.
    Is there a playlist or do you have the name of the song playing by the end of the video? I would relly like to listen to it more often when I paint my Warhammer miniatures.
    Thanks for the great content!

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  3 роки тому +1

      I don't know them on the top of my mind but some artists that I relied on for music are EGProductions, LuLuProduction and La Repeticion. Don't know whether the music is available for public use though because it's licensed stuff.

    • @Nakai_the_Wanderer
      @Nakai_the_Wanderer 3 роки тому

      @@SandRhomanHistory Thank you for the reply.

  • @alvaromartinez8209
    @alvaromartinez8209 3 роки тому +15

    Siege of Malta of 1565: colorful leaders, issue undecided until last minute, and if Malta had fallen, Italy was next.

    • @louleja
      @louleja 3 роки тому +1

      Love malta😍

    • @Steentje06
      @Steentje06 3 роки тому

      !!! 2nd this! Tim Willocks wrote a really great historical roman about the siege of malta. It's called the order

    • @r.ladaria135
      @r.ladaria135 3 роки тому +3

      Not for sure. The Ottoman empire would have found the same guys that defeated them in Lepanto six years later.

    • @Karthagast
      @Karthagast 3 роки тому +3

      @@r.ladaria135 In fact, Malta was saved last minute by a relief Spanish Army, sent from Spanish possesions in Sicily and Naples. So the Ottomans didn't need to wait 6 years for meeting "the same guys that defeated them at Lepanto". They met at Malta itself.

  • @weertangel7231
    @weertangel7231 3 роки тому

    Gotta say, it interesting to see a english video about Dutch history, even more the way the dutch words are spoken, being dutch myself, i know how hard it can be to sometimes ;)

  • @christinejoyinoc9185
    @christinejoyinoc9185 3 роки тому +2

    I don't know if anyone notices but the animation is just uniquely astounding

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview 3 роки тому

    Chris duffy: more ladders on the left, seige engine storm rt section (mortar sound in background)
    Demetrius taker of cities: thnx chris, u really know this stuff.

  • @maxvandertoolen7569
    @maxvandertoolen7569 3 роки тому

    Great video! May I ask, what are your sources of information? Keep it up!

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  3 роки тому +1

      The sources are always listed in the video description!

    • @maxvandertoolen7569
      @maxvandertoolen7569 3 роки тому

      @@SandRhomanHistory Thank you! Fun add to the movie; A citizen from Haarlem kept a list with shots fired at the city. 10402 in total. nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beleg_van_Haarlem_(1572-1573)#/media/Bestand:Kanonskogels.jpg

  • @WoutBr
    @WoutBr 3 роки тому +80

    Julius Caesar: Double circumvallatian?
    "Laughs in Latin"

    • @steveclapper5424
      @steveclapper5424 3 роки тому +3

      You beat me to it!

    • @owo5869
      @owo5869 3 роки тому +7

      First time use nah nah nah Caesar beat you to it.

    • @philippekogler
      @philippekogler 3 роки тому +6

      mmmh Chiappino Vitelli has read bellum gallicum well it seems.......

    • @ragzaugustus
      @ragzaugustus 3 роки тому +5

      I was going "Wait what! Caesar fucking did this, like several times in sieges, the Romans kept doing it afterwards too, fucking what?"

    • @ignaciozaballa2176
      @ignaciozaballa2176 3 роки тому +19

      He said: "The first in the early modern era". He is very clear about it. Caesar describes at least on two occasions using a double fortification system. I wonder if it was an innovation at that time

  • @vijf
    @vijf 3 роки тому

    Subbed!

  •  3 роки тому +11

    I am from the region around Naarden, an Erfgooier, as the inheritors of the 13th century medieval land rights are called. Interestingly enough this means I know my family along the male line has never left that region since at least 1455. I am the first in my family line from 1455 to 2008 who left the region to live somewehere else.
    Within their annals even today, you can find references to the Erfgooiers being forced by the Spanish to destroy the few remaining buildings of Naarden after the population had been murdered by the Spanish and the town had been burned.
    Strangely enough many Dutch sources from that area claim that only two people survived the genocide, one leaving the city as the Spanish were beginning to arrive, the second a catholic priest who was meant to write the tale of the genocide to intimidate the Dutch. This is contrary to most other accounts that claim a couple dozen inhabitants survived. Apparently this also lead to the destruction of most of the nearby hamlet of Bussum.

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. 3 роки тому +2

    Last time I was this late I didn't even know this channel existed.

  • @mathijsharskamp5983
    @mathijsharskamp5983 3 роки тому

    The sieges of Breda and Bergen op Zoom have very interesting stories that would make a great video! The sieges of bergen op zoom were famous around the world and the city was nicknamed “the virgin”. They even made a song about it.

  • @hernancortesfranciscopizar7916
    @hernancortesfranciscopizar7916 3 роки тому +9

    Hola, just a Spanish walking here .👋

  • @rudiberko4839
    @rudiberko4839 3 роки тому

    Nice re-use of La Rochelle two towers ! Enjoying every bit of your production, keep up the good work of vulgarization going !!!

  • @danielblom391
    @danielblom391 3 роки тому +3

    The book you showed, Hasse Simonsdochter, is not about the siege of Harlem or about Kenau. It's about a peasant girl who marries a notorious outlaw, Jan (can't remember his surname), who really existed and threw himself from the church tower his company was besieged in, allowing them to escape.
    Edit: I now realize it might have been intended as Kenau's origin story, but I'm not sure as the book has a very open ending if I remember correctly.

    • @grewdpastor
      @grewdpastor 3 роки тому +2

      You meant Jan van Schaffelaar? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Schaffelaar

    • @danielblom391
      @danielblom391 3 роки тому

      @@grewdpastor Yes

  • @knightforlorn6731
    @knightforlorn6731 3 роки тому

    your videos are incredible. I often wonder why there was not as much cooperation among various cities clearly being invaded by hostile nations.

    • @hotrodharbor
      @hotrodharbor 3 роки тому +4

      The Netherlands were not a nation yet. Every city was still deciding whether to join the uprising or not. The war was just as much against heavy taxation as it was a religious war. If one city would send its men to another city to help, they would leave their own city defenseless. It was chaos.

  • @gandalfelrojo9456
    @gandalfelrojo9456 3 роки тому +19

    I love how he pronounced "Alvarez de Toledo".

  • @SardaukarSentinel
    @SardaukarSentinel 3 роки тому

    At 2:25 it is so uncanny to see that painting of the Grote Markt in Haarlem. Because it still looks exactly the same today over 4 centuries later. Nowadays you'll see people enjoying a drink on the terrace (on your right hand of the painting).

  • @MusicReign
    @MusicReign 3 роки тому +1

    No cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment and casually executing 1735 Prisoners.

  • @jjakjjak5231
    @jjakjjak5231 3 роки тому +1

    Perhaps the conquest of Breda (not a siege strictly speaking, but reminiscent of a mythical siege all the same) or the siege of s'Hertogenbosch by Frederik Hendrik are worthwhile.

  • @marklloyd3536
    @marklloyd3536 3 роки тому

    Very interesting, @ period and event I knew little about.

  • @LikeUntoBuddha
    @LikeUntoBuddha 3 роки тому +15

    The Spanish at this time did not play. If they come for a siege, it was going to last.

  • @Ominous89
    @Ominous89 3 роки тому +2

    Don Frederico was based in a castle near Haarlem. Huis ter Kleef. They blew it up after the siege to prevent another Spaniard taking up that base. The ruins of that castle are still being preserved under a manufactured hill. Now it's a garden you can walk on.

    • @hotrodharbor
      @hotrodharbor 3 роки тому

      I thought the Spanish blew it up after their victory, to prevent it being used in a counter attack?

  • @klinkadink1345
    @klinkadink1345 3 роки тому +25

    is this city the namesake of modern-day New Amsterdam’s Harlem?

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 3 роки тому +3

      While I'd have to do some research (I guess Wikipedia would do in this case) to be 100% certain, I'd say this is a save assumption.

    • @cvb6089
      @cvb6089 3 роки тому +15

      Yes it is

    • @jaspervankruijssen4916
      @jaspervankruijssen4916 3 роки тому +12

      It is. Just like the village of Breukelen is for Brooklyn.

    • @marcopothuizen
      @marcopothuizen 3 роки тому +1

      Correct. It is.

    • @doctoraep
      @doctoraep 3 роки тому +8

      Yep, also the village of Hempstead in NYC is named after Haarlem's direct southern village neighbour, Heemstede. Actually a fuckton of NYC names are derived from its Dutch origins: Brunswyk (Bruinswijk), Broadway (Brede Weg), Brooklyn (Breukelen), Coney Island (Konijnen Eiland), Bushwyk (Boswijk)Flushing (Vlissingen) and many more. In fact even the US Dollar is named after the dutch Daalder ;)

  • @stepheneamonn
    @stepheneamonn 3 роки тому

    I live in Haarlem and it's fascinating to hear more about it's impressive history.

  • @TruckDriverLuke
    @TruckDriverLuke 3 роки тому +4

    Greetings from Haarlem 💪🇳🇱

  • @Steevo2004
    @Steevo2004 3 роки тому +4

    Why did you show the book, Hasse Simonsdochter at the beginning? Not related since it is actually a story set during the middle ages.

  • @baafvonk
    @baafvonk 3 роки тому

    Hasse Simonsdochter by Thea Beckmann is not a book about Kenau Simonsdochter but a book about the Hook and Cod wars 150 years earlier.It's based on the tale of Jan van Schaffelaar who jumped from a belltower in Barneveld to save his men.

  • @publicenemy1991
    @publicenemy1991 3 роки тому

    Hello, fortunately, I have found this video because recently I was walking in Haarlem and something that is close to the centrum catch my interest and I would like to know if You can give more info about that place or their history.
    I am very curious to know something about the buildings where now day's there the Gymnasium and where there are the bibliothec. The name of the straat is GASTHUISSTRAAT. Thank You 😊

  • @freddielaker2
    @freddielaker2 3 роки тому +3

    The "Judiths" story must have travelled with Dutch sailors as in Liverpool women used to be called Judies.... it seems to make sense as a lot of Dutch words have found their way into the dialect in Liverpool and ports towns.

  • @stifflersrealmom5653
    @stifflersrealmom5653 3 роки тому

    What is the title of the song between the intro and the actual episode?

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 3 роки тому

    Fun fact, in Haarlem they say you can still find a cannonball from the siege in the wall of the old St Bavo church in the city center (there is also a new, very beautiful St Bavo Church outside the city center). I searched for hours with binoculars on the inside and the outside, but I never found it. Still, the story keeps popping up.

    • @henkvandenbergh1301
      @henkvandenbergh1301 4 місяці тому

      It is not in the church wall. It is high up in the wall of Spekstraat 12 on the south side of the church. Google search "spekstraat 12 haarlem cannon ball".

  • @Elitecommander0
    @Elitecommander0 2 роки тому

    Can you please do the siege of Leiden as well?

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 роки тому +3

    I bet this was the toughest siege of the whole war. For both sides. I heard that the English attempted to help the Dutch in an attempt to weaken the Spanish but it didn't go anywhere.

    • @destadhouder3689
      @destadhouder3689 3 роки тому +3

      After the murder on WILLEM VAN ORANJE , the Stadholder and leader of the rebellion 1584
      The Staten Generaal offerd the English Queen ELIZABETH the sovereign of the Dutch Republic
      She sends the earl of Leicester ROBERT DUDLEY, it was not a succes 1585-1587

    • @maartenvmaldegem
      @maartenvmaldegem 3 роки тому +1

      @@destadhouder3689 One could call it a Dud

  • @wertin200
    @wertin200 2 роки тому

    0:49 what is the name of the opening song?

  • @timpyrules
    @timpyrules 2 роки тому

    0:45 Hasse Simonsdochter was my favourite book of my childhood but it isnt about Kenau or the siege of Haarlem

  • @robvoncken2565
    @robvoncken2565 3 роки тому +22

    The fall of Haarlem was tragic but the seeds of victory were planted there. The next city the Spanish ( we really should say Habsburgish ) troops tried to conquer, Alkmaar, was so well defended due to the delay at Haarlem, the Spanish were not able to take it. The rebellion picked up momentum after that. There is still a saying " Bij Alkmaar begint de victorie" ( At Alkmaar the victory starts )

    • @MrRobfullarton
      @MrRobfullarton 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, he's covered mostly dutch defeats, im interested in seeing, when the Dutch started to get the upper hand and how they got it too!

    • @kwetsbarevrijheid2720
      @kwetsbarevrijheid2720 3 роки тому +2

      Although it actually kind of started in Haarlem then no? :o

    • @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
      @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 3 роки тому

      too bad some dutch revolted against their king in a civil war that divided the contry

    • @robvoncken2565
      @robvoncken2565 3 роки тому

      @@MrRobfullarton There was no way the Dutch could compete with the spanish empire. There were victories, but their main strategy at that time was hold out. The Empire was collapsing through massive overspending, in the end we survived by a better economy, from the 1600 the Spanish were on the losing side

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 3 роки тому

      @@MrRobfullarton Well, in short the Dutch modernized their army with very innovative ideas, built a huge fleet, stole the gold and silver transports of the Spanish from South America, and took over their colonies all over the world, depriving the spanish king of cash and, by the way, setting up an empire of their own. The Dutch revolt was unique in many ways, but also because it turned into a first proto world war.

  • @elhanankarmeli7074
    @elhanankarmeli7074 3 роки тому +1

    Will there be a video on Vauban?

  • @RuiFeio90
    @RuiFeio90 3 роки тому +1

    I think circumvallation together with contravallation was exactly what Julius Caesar used at the siege of Alessia in 52 BC. So this can't have been the first usage of this technique. No doubt inspired by it though

  • @Pecteu
    @Pecteu 3 роки тому +2

    At 02:14 there is a nice anachronism. The blue-white emblem on the wall of the gate (at the right) was introduced in 1954 and indicates a building that must be protected during wartime. historiek.net/wp-content/uploads-phistor1/2015/02/Internationaal-herkenningsplaatje-voor-Monumenten-cc.jpg

  • @AccordionJoe1
    @AccordionJoe1 3 роки тому +22

    As one of Dutch ancestry, I am proud to say that the Dutch, despite their tiny country and constant battles with the sea, have been incredibly successful over the centuries. And even today, the Dutch produce most of the world's flowers and the Netherlands is second only to the much larger United States in exporting agricultural products.

    • @Inferi0r
      @Inferi0r 3 роки тому +7

      - They raise the most happy kids of the world, for years (UN report);
      - Compared to size of the country they have the highest number of good universities in the world. And unless like UK and USA, these universities are close to free for all Dutch citizens. All top universities are Public, this is uncomparable to any country in the world;
      - One of the only countries with an AAA-credit rating due to the unfailing budgetary discipline of the Dutch;
      - For decades, the Dutch pension system is seen as the best pension system in the world. It is quite striking that the National Civil Pension Fund of Holland frequently referred to as ABP (the pension fund for government and education employees in the Netherlands) is a top5 biggest pension fund in the world, with only having 2.8 million participants;
      - House (at least for now) to at least some of the biggest and longest standing companies in the world like Royal Dutch Shell, Unilever, ASML and NXP (both former Philips, once the biggest competitor of Samsung) ING bank (once the first Internet only bank in Canada and Australia in the '90s), which performance can be only compared to relatively small countries and business power houses like Swiss and Singapore;
      - Amsterdam, for decades the most mixed city of the world, with the highest number of nationalisties, even more than NY or Paris.
      - In terms of infrastructure, this is what the Dutch notice a lot when they are somewhere else in the world. According to several international reports the highway quality is always top3 and Internetspeed and coverage is amongst the best in the world for decades. Especially, when visiting a typical 2nd world country like USA, its clearly how much the Dutch infrastructure is outstanding that of the USA.
      - And last but not least, one of the few countries with a very very small number of homeless people. The social back-up system is very strong in Holland.

    • @vincent5880
      @vincent5880 3 роки тому +6

      @@Inferi0r please don't say Holland thats not a country it is The Netherlands. It's like calling the us Virginia

    • @bteuben-faber8215
      @bteuben-faber8215 3 роки тому

      Even flowers for the Catholic Pope. Who was a great fan of the Spanish ofcourse ... and of Louis XIV and Napoleon, 2 other dictators!!!

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 3 роки тому +3

      unfortunately, the gov wants to destroy agriculture too though.

    • @TheDutchMitchell
      @TheDutchMitchell 3 роки тому +2

      We export high value argue products, not high quantities.

  • @Youckle
    @Youckle 3 роки тому

    I like your history lesson / recap, but I noticed a detail the seems incorrect.
    The blue and white shield on the gate at 2:15 indicates it is a 'Rijksmonument' in modern days (wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Cultural_Property_in_the_Event_of_Armed_Conflict ) and would not be there around 1572.

  • @maartennoorman5184
    @maartennoorman5184 3 роки тому

    Tiny mistake: The book to the right at 0:42 is not about Kenau, but about a fictive character, Hasse. In the book Hasse is the wife of Jan van Schaffelaar, who jumps of the churchtower of Barneveldt in 1482 (spoiler alert. Or not, if you know your Dutch history).

  • @stephanrichard7006
    @stephanrichard7006 3 роки тому +1

    Uhmm, why are there two maps of Haarlem? Am I missing something?

  • @wulfsragar
    @wulfsragar 3 роки тому +2

    ah my hometown, born and raised there

  • @indrako
    @indrako 3 роки тому +10

    Some cannonballs can still be seen in Haarlem :) See: www.tekensvandetijd.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Sint_Bavo_kanonskogel1.jpg

  • @pepperspray7386
    @pepperspray7386 3 роки тому +1

    The particularly masculine woman reminds me of the woman character in True Grit, "Mattie Ross." Both were assertive in their lives and had legal battles with everyone around them. Wielding the law like a weapon against her enemies.

  • @guavaguy4397
    @guavaguy4397 3 роки тому +6

    0:58 Man the Dutch has some balls to still keep fighting even though most of their country was under occupation.

    • @andreascovano7742
      @andreascovano7742 3 роки тому +6

      the revolt had just started....

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia 3 роки тому +4

      There wasn't really a dutch country tho at that moment.

    • @guavaguy4397
      @guavaguy4397 3 роки тому +4

      @@5thMilitia Yeah but they were up against the most powerful empire at the time.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia 3 роки тому

      @@guavaguy4397 true, although the ottomans where also up there

    • @guavaguy4397
      @guavaguy4397 3 роки тому

      @@5thMilitia yeah, them too.