Ngunjiri Wambugu started "Kieleweke" movement. Therefore, to sit here at JKL and condemn the mountain for engaging in divisive silly politics is hypocrisy. I agree mountain people should fight for what they can benefit for. ODM is synonyms for violence, Simba Arati told Barasa "nitasema uchapwe", Khalwale was defending himself, we all know how baba made fun about it. Baba continues to associate with Babu Owino even after shooting in public.
Ngunjiri you are telling the truth we are facing a serious threat from warmongers who are hellbent to get power by causing chaos and implicating the victims.
Kenya shall give an equal chance to all but we cannot be ruled by three families all our lives it doesn't matter if you come from a poor family,if your ideology is appealing to the people you will be president through the will of the ppl
@@oletip-tipmarion5463 it defeats logic but all the same the goons acted as instructed for 10mins & BABA addressed the gathering whom cared to listen amid cheers.
Ichungwa should STOP lying to public and he need to ask his team members mwaura why he was demonstrating yesterday morning n what coincidence does it meant with itumbi post n Twitter...
@@bonnienjoroge1304 What in his talk is not intelligent?. Didn't you know that most if not all political chaos are state sponsored?. The 1992 & 97 chaos were sponsored by Moi. The 2007/08 were sponsored by Raila and Kibaki. The 2017/18 chaos according to Sonko were sponsored by Jubilee.
I strongly condemn what Mr Ichungwa is doing........thanks for bringing us together Mr Ngunjiri........also thanks to Jeff for stopping him on the tracks to accusing people not in the panel
What value is this show adding to the progress of Kenya. Please Jeff, change the format of the show so that something comes out of it. Let Kenya and Kenyans benefit for this show, otherwise it will just end up as bar talk. Asante.
Those men in black are really bad. They beaten people in Runyenjes using those jembe Rungus when Raila visited Embu on his way from Meru. Shame on ODM and their violence.
Hon.Ichugwa,Kenyan know the name of Kenya war Lord, because we were given his name by late President of Tz Mr.Mkapa.We are waiting for him and his henious moves.
Jk,Ichungua and Ngunjiru, if you arguing of someone who was sworn during the day as a second presdent, then you are all lost. You are not dealing with a normal ma This man has ever courses problem in any kenyan president of the day.
It is indeed a sad state of affairs for Mt. Kenya to be so divided. We used to be the example for the rest of country for political maturity devoid of violence, could it be because of the decline in economic fortunes presided by Uhuru.
Ichungwa acha kupeleka watu zigzag,stop perfectin with sweet words,even al shaabab dont accept their motive but perfect it and it hurt many,so hiyo maneno yako hujielewi,
My friend be wise, it's all about fighting the narrative 'hustlers'which makes him have sleepless nights. So,they hire goons to disrupt their events to proof to EACC that it's hustlers
This is an extremely shameful confrontation coming from members of parliament from the same community.Andu a nyumba ni kii?Let us have a conversation how we are going to work together.Get a good example from Jews who work and operate as one entity all over the world knowing that they were persecuted so much.Mt.Kenya community suffered so much because of bad politics in 2007/2008.The Mountain community must stand together to defend their interests yet our leaders are doing a great disservice by promoting antagonism and division.
A hired goon is actually on record saying Sabina Chege was their sponsor. . . .There's plenty of rotten apples in this Jubilee. . . .the irony is that they are constantly trying to tell us the other side is the one full of rotten apples...
Both Kimani and Ngunjiri have strong points but they lack vision. It does not matter how well you articulate your points etc etc. What is your vision for Kenya and how are you executing it! This is a challenge to the two politicians. Can you make a mini handshake of your own and bring the people together.
Politicians act as mr. Clean men...you fail to believe who's genuine Wakenya sisi tusipigane...they have been watching as we had been fight one another...let as sit back and watch
So all those who are shouting Ruto you think that they're Hustles please think again use your inner eye, other parties can shout so that people think this are hooligans from Hustler hell no . Hustler are good people who want best, Raila is calling Hustler takataka why can't you ask that nonsense.
These TAKATAKA people should find anew strategy of destroying Raila by branding him violent after hiring goons. we already know that it is them who do these things. Even Sonko confessed the other day.
@@suzlast4518 they have brainwashed you to think that hustlers are poor people, dont be afool to be directed like a goat on heat. Do your own research mumu and establish for your own the meaning of hustler. Hustlers are not poor people.
Yuo really wanted real change. vote outside from the usual uhuru, raila ruto. These people have too much baggage from corruption, enrichment, greed and are not unifers. Look outside for fresh new competent faces of people who have real ideas for the people like Kituyi and Kibwana
Ngunjiri Wambugu is a very Smart guy, at some point I actually thought Ichungwa was a smart guy when he was the chairman of the Budget Committee, kara mae Pugha...
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It does not matter walk on the street of city of kenya it's a shamed young woman with children treated like trash please curse is in the land because we lie too much and the Most High Yah is tired with liars from so called leaders, they call their people takataka we wish you live to face same as they face today yes , you go through hell on earth for calling poor people takataka.A day is coming that your money will fad will not buy you life yes your money will be nothing .
Ichungwa should explain this pole he keeps on referring with rungus coz that what there H-movement are doing. I don’t support any divide but we know how propagandas are done✅
I thought we are all Kenyans... Githurai is a cosmopolitan area...why do you think it is only Kikuyus who have the right to fight nyinyi wote hapa ni wakabila...don't include ANC in this useless dirty politics...we in ANC we are political civilized you can not find our presidential candidate engaging in such, he stand tall to be President. Rest is greedy ambitious, and tribal...
Taka taka briefcases wallk all the time ask Dibaral ntntv use to watch@ 4 am Uk time you can't debate from Wahome ati wakiriri Torioch senentorr na na hako kama ma jwrnyu Women Rep kwetu kim hakuna kutoka ama kulia
These politicians are really irresponsible. This Kimani Ichungwa is a smart guy but a very dangerous politician. It's a shame when a young politicians use irresponsible inciteful propaganda like Ichungwa is doing on national TV
Ngunjiri Wambugu started "Kieleweke" movement. Therefore, to sit here at JKL and condemn the mountain for engaging in divisive silly politics is hypocrisy. I agree mountain people should fight for what they can benefit for. ODM is synonyms for violence, Simba Arati told Barasa "nitasema uchapwe", Khalwale was defending himself, we all know how baba made fun about it. Baba continues to associate with Babu Owino even after shooting in public.
Ngunjiri you are telling the truth we are facing a serious threat from warmongers who are hellbent to get power by causing chaos and implicating the victims.
Kenya shall give an equal chance to all but we cannot be ruled by three families all our lives it doesn't matter if you come from a poor family,if your ideology is appealing to the people you will be president through the will of the ppl
"Who don't come from our region" ....unwittingly divisive.
Thumps up wambugu u r smart , ichungwa is apropangandist
Ichungungwa is young and a big fool come on kimani wake up
Can you explain how you gauge foolishness
@@mwaidaniel8880 tutaongea live live
@@mwaidaniel8880 read the comments alone tanga tanga nowhere only devisive fictious narratives that will give birth to communistic agenda at last
@@josephmwangingure3259 you are hanging on a full vehicle while empty n safe is passing your route. Don't endanger your life
Wambugu is man and half he is wise and mature.
This prodigal son should come back home quickly. Kimani Ichung'wa you are too good to be out there sir!!
Kimani please dont talk ill of our Nyeri people we are very civilised.&very learned.this is bad.
Ngunjiri wambugu is already a heckler in this debate. He wants to speak alone. That is how he finds many hecklers to ferry 😂😂😂
I'm learning from you a new definition of heckling
according to what sonko said the other day,i can not trust any politician about any chaos in their meeting .
Watching from Pwani sio Kenya👏👏👏
Ngujiri is very constructive in his argument, Ichungwa is full of propaganda and this will bury the nation of agekuyu forever.
My friend Ichungwa so it was Baba's people who were singing Ruto..! Ruto..! Hillarious
Ichugwa joined a vlout he. Doesn't know his peoles
Ansilly Boy reasoning
😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Yes ,paid goons have time to do whatever they want,
@@oletip-tipmarion5463 it defeats logic but all the same the goons acted as instructed for 10mins & BABA addressed the gathering whom cared to listen amid cheers.
kimani Ichungwa was not there yet he is very aware of hired goons and the amount they were paid,,pooolitics this is really a dirty game
Why are taking Dennis Itumbi’s word. As in the blogger who forged letters
I don't support Ruto I support my President Uhuru Kenyatta But I don't support bbi
Ichungwa should STOP lying to public and he need to ask his team members mwaura why he was demonstrating yesterday morning n what coincidence does it meant with itumbi post n Twitter...
Shame on Ichungwa, Tangatanga panicking and trying to cause violence wacha uongo
Wacha
A young and intelligent man like kimani should desist from being made to make a fool out of himself
Who is making him a fool?
There is just one bit that i disagree with you - Kimani being intelligent. HE IS NOT just listen to his argument
@@bonnienjoroge1304 now I get you, you are very right
@@bonnienjoroge1304 What in his talk is not intelligent?. Didn't you know that most if not all political chaos are state sponsored?. The 1992 & 97 chaos were sponsored by Moi. The 2007/08 were sponsored by Raila and Kibaki. The 2017/18 chaos according to Sonko were sponsored by Jubilee.
@@samuelkamau1777 You are wise
Wambugu is smart
Jeff be be a fair host, if you have to be hard be so to both but not to Ichungwa please. It's on air and the Kenyan public ain't fools.
Ichungwa is overtaken by wamatangi
I like your charisma Hon. Kimani Ichungwa....... Continue performing above par
We Miss Miguna here to Square this guys!!..I know How well Migush can Diconstruct this guys....
you meant these...
I strongly condemn what Mr Ichungwa is doing........thanks for bringing us together Mr Ngunjiri........also thanks to Jeff for stopping him on the tracks to accusing people not in the panel
You are entitled to an opinion not a fact.
Recall when Wambugu hired some goons to heckle Ruto in Nyeri.
I remember
Am from kiambaa am a father......
Next time jeff dont bring people who are just wasting our time thinking kenyans are fools
Are hustlers only in Mount Kenya?
Kimani ichungwa is wasting our time giving pure lies.
What value is this show adding to the progress of Kenya. Please Jeff, change the format of the show so that something comes out of it. Let Kenya and Kenyans benefit for this show, otherwise it will just end up as bar talk. Asante.
Those men in black are really bad. They beaten people in Runyenjes using those jembe Rungus when Raila visited Embu on his way from Meru. Shame on ODM and their violence.
Ichung’wa too immature and irrationally proud!
He is so arrogant but pride comes before a fall.
Speak louder brother
He scores Zero
Hon.Ichugwa,Kenyan know the name
of Kenya war Lord, because we were given his name by late President of Tz Mr.Mkapa.We are waiting for him and his henious moves.
Haha this Ichungwa of a man is a disgrace .......anyway Sonko will one day tell us who sponserd the Githurai chaos
Well said Hilda. Ichungwa is Lootall,s gachungwa(wink,wink). This ichungwa twat is a certified douche bag. Rabid beyond measure.
nyinyi dio uleta chuki ichungwa tunawajua
Ichungwa is a liar, how about the hired goons that went to Burma with wilbarrows??
Those were local traders. Not paid! They just don’t want to hear shit about BBI
Jk,Ichungua and Ngunjiru, if you arguing of someone who was sworn during the day as a second presdent, then you are all lost.
You are not dealing with a normal ma
This man has ever courses problem in any kenyan president of the day.
Ngujuri and Jeff they are supporting BBI
You are the sponsors
'When the people refused you to speak' Really bwana Ichungwa???
Direct translation..walimkataza kuongea.
ichungwa sounds dangerous.........aty khalwale was defending himself surely
It is indeed a sad state of affairs for Mt. Kenya to be so divided. We used to be the example for the rest of country for political maturity devoid of violence, could it be because of the decline in economic fortunes presided by Uhuru.
Mt kenya should also agree to have our own presidential candidate. That will remove the shenanigans we are witnessing around
if i was given the choice i would Kikuyus and Kalenjins take a sabbatical from presidency it seem to be the bone of contention in the country
That’s not democracy
Ichungwa acha kupeleka watu zigzag,stop perfectin with sweet words,even al shaabab dont accept their motive but perfect it and it hurt many,so hiyo maneno yako hujielewi,
These UDA brigades are not constructive whatsoever lies has dominated their agenda for Kenyans
*Kenyan politics is so cool lol, politicians are open and brave. Tanzanians where are we?😂*
HOW , can somebody sponsor violence in his event, Gudhurai is within the cosmopolitan city ,who will ferry who. Watu wa Tangatanga Wa wache fujo
My friend be wise, it's all about fighting the narrative 'hustlers'which makes him have sleepless nights. So,they hire goons to disrupt their events to proof to EACC that it's hustlers
This is an extremely shameful confrontation coming from members of parliament from the same community.Andu a nyumba ni kii?Let us have a conversation how we are going to work together.Get a good example from Jews who work and operate as one entity all over the world knowing that they were persecuted so much.Mt.Kenya community suffered so much because of bad politics in 2007/2008.The Mountain community must stand together to defend their interests yet our leaders are doing a great disservice by promoting antagonism and division.
Odinga and Ruto who has bii army and police at local or regional Kenya,
It's ok..i blame Raila for shaking hands..we could 've gone to secession ..nimechoka na kabila mbili acting like they are God's chosen one's
Ichungwa should stop misleading the public unless he was instrumental in organising the goons
Kimani is very insincere and immature
Ichungwa has hatred against Uhuru and is a pathological like his UDA bloggers. He is very proud and arrogant
Can anyone simply define Dynasty/Hustler to me means Rich verses poor period..
A hired goon is actually on record saying Sabina Chege was their sponsor. . . .There's plenty of rotten apples in this Jubilee. . . .the irony is that they are constantly trying to tell us the other side is the one full of rotten apples...
Land reform needed in Kenya... without compensation- SA did it
Both Kimani and Ngunjiri have strong points but they lack vision. It does not matter how well you articulate your points etc etc. What is your vision for Kenya and how are you executing it! This is a challenge to the two politicians. Can you make a mini handshake of your own and bring the people together.
Sonko told us what happens
Which the tallest mountain in Kenya? ..I Love Miguna
Bbi selling like hot cakes. Which ground have you been talking about.
HII NI BIDII YA KURA YENYU,NA BADO MNWAFTWA NA HAWANA VISSION.
VOTE THEM OUT LET THEM FIGHT ONE ANOTHER..
Waaaaaaaaaaht kimani you're lucking words pliis substantiate your analysis allegations.
Yes both of them should substantiate their allegations.
Politicians act as mr. Clean men...you fail to believe who's genuine
Wakenya sisi tusipigane...they have been watching as we had been fight one another...let as sit back and watch
Kwani unaogopa Joho.
Being handsome doesn't you got brains.
Kiambu no one goes two terms kibro.
So all those who are shouting Ruto you think that they're Hustles please think again use your inner eye, other parties can shout so that people think this are hooligans from Hustler hell no . Hustler are good people who want best, Raila is calling Hustler takataka why can't you ask that nonsense.
Ao wanajiita Hustlers are just stupid. Period.
let the police be in uniform all the time
These TAKATAKA people should find anew strategy of destroying Raila by branding him violent after hiring goons. we already know that it is them who do these things. Even Sonko confessed the other day.
how can you call poor takataka yet your soul is fading away you think you belong to rich please.
@@suzlast4518 they have brainwashed you to think that hustlers are poor people, dont be afool to be directed like a goat on heat. Do your own research mumu and establish for your own the meaning of hustler. Hustlers are not poor people.
Why didn't Ngunjiri wambugu accompany Raila in his Mt kenya tours if he supports him.
We need a sound third alliance. Any good govenor? Kivutha where are you
Yuo really wanted real change. vote outside from the usual uhuru, raila ruto. These people have too much baggage from corruption, enrichment, greed and are not unifers. Look outside for fresh new competent faces of people who have real ideas for the people like Kituyi and Kibwana
Ngunjiri Wambugu is a very Smart guy, at some point I actually thought Ichungwa was a smart guy when he was the chairman of the Budget Committee, kara mae Pugha...
Huyu mwanamke wa nyeri anaogea nn nxt election uko nje ruto tosha continue supporting bbi
Where is Miguna
bure kabisa ,ka unajua mtu upanga vurugu mbona usituambie b4 ,why wait ikishaa fanyika ndio unatoa mdomo ? burekabisa
If BBI is the one that permits Babu Owino to be shooting
Why should Kikuyus cause violence while they are rulers of the country. Shame on you
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Huyu ngunjiri ni msema ukweli ,ichungwa ana babaika.
Correct kabisa.ichungwa hana ukweli
So itumbi has the monopoly of intelligence in Kenya? The man couldn't even provide facts in his own case.
How can Babu Owino address any rally at this time and age..Baba is not strategic..I am of the belief that the hooligans were ferried..
One guy sounds intelligent but not independent.
The other with uncombed hair is absolutely afraid of beans spilling.
Wasted TV time.
Sonko said it day light they used to burn cars and printed odm t.shirts to paint ODM ,how sure are we that tangatanga are using same story....shindwe
Kimani umekaliwa
It does not matter walk on the street of city of kenya it's a shamed young woman with children treated like trash please curse is in the land because we lie too much and the Most High Yah is tired with liars from so called leaders, they call their people takataka we wish you live to face same as they face today yes , you go through hell on earth for calling poor people takataka.A day is coming that your money will fad will not buy you life yes your money will be nothing .
kimani ichungwa has a good memory .i remember those words come from ngunjiri at 24:36
@frank mw who is the goon according to you?
Kameko you are changing naratives
kameko haha
Ichungwa should explain this pole he keeps on referring with rungus coz that what there H-movement are doing. I don’t support any divide but we know how propagandas are done✅
Mr ichungwa you a great lier, please stop it.
Listen lies upon lies hell is their home full stop.
I thought we are all Kenyans... Githurai is a cosmopolitan area...why do you think it is only Kikuyus who have the right to fight nyinyi wote hapa ni wakabila...don't include ANC in this useless dirty politics...we in ANC we are political civilized you can not find our presidential candidate engaging in such, he stand tall to be President. Rest is greedy ambitious, and tribal...
Fancy coats but empty suits
Taka taka briefcases wallk all the time ask Dibaral ntntv use to watch@ 4 am Uk time you can't debate from Wahome ati wakiriri Torioch senentorr na na hako kama ma jwrnyu Women Rep kwetu kim hakuna kutoka ama kulia
These politicians are really irresponsible. This Kimani Ichungwa is a smart guy but a very dangerous politician. It's a shame when a young politicians use irresponsible inciteful propaganda like Ichungwa is doing on national TV
Ichungwa who is a hustler did these pple chose to be born from presidents
During 2013 you didn't know that our dearly was a murderer are okie, please listen those words will teach you how to live as a honest soul hell .
Kamani is only a small boy, arrogant and petty. He want to tell us how he lives in a posh area that his neighbour's are Germans.
tafuta mhindi ukae karibu nae,uache kiwaru,
Can you prove your point beyond dought mweshimiwa?
I love jkl
We saw Babu owino shooting
Yeah and destroyed someone career and he is outside here saying BBI
Jeff I like your show but stop being on one side,we are all watching you.