I knew this guy Who knew this guy Who knew this guy Who knew this guy Who knew this guy Who knew this guy's cousin That he actually documented the corona plague on toilet paper. One day, it will be the stuff of legends, he said.
I tend to write on toilet paper more often than normal paper so this ink really seems like what I need. Unfortunately, my teachers wouldn’t accept my essay when it was on a roll of toilet paper but due to not being able to attend school in person, I am now back to my old ways.
The pronunciation on Rohrer and Klingner was perfect. And by saying Pelikan instead of pelican, also in a perfect accent, was a nice touch. Thank you for the extra effort, from Germany!
Happy new year! I love the Rohrer & Klingner Salix. I have this in my pocket pen as my EDC. It's perfect for documents (iron gall ink stands the test of time) and it has a great color. And indeed it's so good on both bad paper and on the great Rhodia/Clairefontaine. Don't fear the iron gall label. R&K managed to have a "new" formula and it's especially made for fountain pens. It works great with steel nibs. Love this ink.
@@piolopscl In case you're still wondering, no, Salix dries out to be pretty light (medium tone)! It looks very aged and stylish especially on ivory paper. I highly recommend it :)
I personally recommend Sailor Kiwaguro black ink. It's like Platinum Carbon, but it's easier to clean. I have it in a fine nib and I can easily write on Xuan paper (which isn't even meant for pens, since it's so fragile). I also have it in a Kuretake fude pen and the ink writes just as well as a proper Chinese calligraphy ink.
Just be aware that X-feather is most likely also a pigmented ink. While this has not been officially confirmed, cleaning it out of a pen looks exactly like it does with other black pigment inks , which is very noticably different from cleaning out dye-based inks.
Pelikan royal blue is also a fantastic ink for a bad paper - no bleeedthrough or feathering with a japanese fine nib or a german medium(pretty wet writing pen too) writing on a fairly cheap 11 y.o. spiral notebook that seen it's better times
I generally use 70-80gsm copy paper for day to day stuff, and my work requires me to take a lot of notes. I've been quite happy with how my J Herbin, Pelikan, Sailor, and Pilot inks behave with them. Are they the best? Heh, I wouldn't know. Btw, the first option you listed has quite a lot of bleedthrough compared to the rest IMO.
@@UmitSeyhan75 ooh gosh i left that comment 3 years ago and a lot has changed. What I learned is that for regular copy paper, you want to use a drier ink to avoid bleedthrough. Pelikan 4001 inks are good for this purpose. I have become more discerning/ picky about paper and ink performance since, and have stopped using copy paper in favour of FP friendly stuff. I can't remember the other specific inks any more.
Sailor carbon black is a much better option than platinum carbon black or Noodlers black or x-feather for bad paper. It’s as bleed and feather resistant as salix or other IG inks, but it flows amazingly well, and has been easy to clean out of most pens
Never tried Waterman. Most of my inks are Noodler's with some Monteverde and DeAtramentis inks and Platinum Carbon Black. Noodler's has more than one type of black ink....I have them all except for X-Feather.
Waterman is well known for selling low-price, well behaved inks. I bought Inspired blue and Serenity blue and they're both awesome! I also got the Intense black ink. It's pretty good except for the fact it's not that intense😅
Noodler's X-Feather is what Jimmy McGill used in that one Better Call Saul episode where he wrote an entire legal document on toliet paper, confirmed! 😂
I especially like Noodler’s X-feather BLUE. It’s a beautiful deep true blue, smooth and well-behaved, and I haven’t had issues with slow drying even on good paper. It’s bulletproof, too. I agree about Waterman’s Audacious Red as an intense warm true red. I use it along with Diamine Meadow (a bright yellow-leaning green dark enough for legibility) and Noodler’s Southwest (formerly Apache) Sunset for annotation. I also like the gorgeous darker red, Diamine Red Dragon. I use Platinum Carbon Black all the time in a range of nibs and so far it has behaved well over months even in EF nibs. A great ink for writing and drawing.
I think the Parker Quink Blue ink also fits into this group. I use it with a medium point pen and 75g reed-based copy paper and it doesn't bleed through to the other side, nor does it bleed, it dries quickly and the Color intensity is good, but it is affected by water. thanks for the recommendation.
I use Waterman "inspired" blue in one of my fountain pens and it works great on cheap memo pad paper no bleed or feathering. One brand, that you didn't mention, that also works well on cheap thin paper out of a fountain pen is Monteverde ink's Yosemite Green. It's obvious I like writing with crazy inks. But those 2 colors are vibrant and fun. The Monteverde and waterman inks have some great colors.
My favorite black ink for use on ordinary paper is carbon black inkjet printer ink. At about $15/500ml it has the added advantage that it's super cheap. I'd bet money that's what Platinum Carbon Black actually is, but I have not yet had a chance to do a side by side comparison. I figured that if it wouldn't clog print nozzles designed to apply ink in picoliter droplets then it won't clog up a fountain pen, and for the past month, writing almost exclusively with it in three guineapens, I have had zero problems with it. As always, your mileage may vary.
@TRS800 : The thing is that inkjet printers expect some feathering. That's how they mix colors in addition to the pointilist effect. I've used dye based inkjet inks in fountain pens and they feather and bleed EVERYWHERE. I might try again sometime with diluting them to see if that tames the bleeding, when I'm in the mood for another inksperiment.
Why didn't you include Parker Quink ink. That one is a gem. So affordable and so good. The pigmentation is perfect and it doesn't bleed on 70gsm regular copy paper. Its a must try for regular fountain pen users!
If Black then yes, but for blue, aah, even after 1-2 days I think, it fades and blue colour gets so fade its not as rich and legible anymore. And its seriously affected by any amount of water on paper
I remember in college the book store had one brand of note paper that worked well with fountain pens. All the others weren't any better than the paper towels you used in the video ;) And in those pre-internet days the only ink I could easily get was Parker Quink. Which didn't help the bleeding problem any though it did dry quickly. I still took notes starting at the bottom of the page and working up though, whether using a fountain pen or a ball point.
Although I try really hard not to write on crappy paper, this is good to know! Love my Platinum Carbon Black and all my Waterman' not a fan of Noodler's and need to look into R & K for their off-black shades. Thanks!
Do you mind me asking why you're not a fan of Noodler's ink? My very first glass dip pens are on the way and that is actually the brand I was planning on trying. I've heard so many pros but would love to be informed about the cons as well. Thanks ahead of time if you reply 😊
I'm a teacher so I have the worst of both worlds - poor paper and forced ink colours. For that reason I tend to use Waterman Audacious red. I like the idea of the Pelikan, but it looks too orange to me.... for work, that is; I use a lot of oranges for other stuff!
I'm using the Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Red to grade papers and it doesn't look anything like in this video. I can highly recommend it. (Maybe they changed the recipe at some point?)
I own a 1970 vintage Meisterstück 149, M-size nib. It behaves greatly on my Rhodia paper, but only with it. I mostly often takes notes at work and I need a better ink to use on these ordinary papers. From the video I got the feeling of her using mostly F-size nibs. I own a Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black and it does really well with my F nib Lamy Safari, but it just makes a mess with my MB 149. I wanted to know if this X-Reader could work with a M-nib 149, before buying.
For all the years I avoided using fountain pens it was always because I thought there was some specialty to them that would make them less compatible with my every day tasks of writing. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have yet to find a pen and ink combination that is so bad on even the cheapest paper that I have that it is unusable. I have never found a combination that is worse than the cheapest rollerball pens I have. (The only time I've found a combination that is unusable, it is because I'm not writing on paper at all, which is solved by ballpoint or marker.) The worst thing that will happen is some nice property of the ink will be lost/wasted on cheaper paper, and for that I reason I would say the best ink for cheap paper is whatever is cheapest. And indeed some of the cheaper brands like plain Parker, Pilot or Pelikan entry lines, all perform well on cheap paper. And one final note is that I write on a lot of cheap paper, and I've found some of the notebooks I've bought even from the dollar store work well enough that my nicer shading or sheening inks work on them and show the full effect.
Hey JetPens! In addition to Pelikan Brilliant Red, I also discovered that the Pelikan 4001 Violet fountain pen ink could write on ordinary notebook paper with no feathering and bleedthrough.☺️🇵🇭🖋️
My absolute favorite color is produced by brilliant green solution. Unfortunately, it is ethanol based, so it would ruin a fountain pen. But it's so beautiful!
the good German pronunciation really surprised me that was nice. :D in general I think the ink of most German brands that also have school pens (lamy, Pelikan, online, herlitz) will probably work fine with cheaper school notebook paper made for students and will do okay with printer paper... the kids have to be able to write their tests on print-outs after all.
That's a really helpful video but my concern with regular paper and fountain pen writing is not an ink that doesn't feather or bleed through (that's important too, no doubt!), it is mostly the damaging of the nib because of the abrasive nature and level of absorbency of such papers. It happened to one of my M nib pen, the slit of the nib was picking the fibres of the copy paper causing all sorts of problems.
Hi Soultana! That's a great point. Luckily, paper fibers in the nib slit won't cause any long term issues as long as you clean the the slit regularly. You can use a slim piece of brass or other material in order to "floss" between the tines.
@@JetPens Hey! Thank you for your reply! That's true, however in my case I had severe railroading issues even after pen cleaning and maintenance and I believe it was because I was fiddling quite frequently with the tines in my effort to remove the paper fibres. I ultimately had to remove and fine tune my nib. Anyway, my point is that of course you can use low quality paper, the inks that you recommend are great for that purpose but I would highly recommend to use less expensive pens when writing on cheap paper. :-)
I think this is your best video ever. I'd love for you to revisit this list - and maybe feature more inks? I'd be very interested to hear your take on Octopus inks - I don't think you carry this ink at present.
ink is the last to blame for bad paper. In order to minimize "problems" always, but always use fine & extra fine nibs for start and then concentrate on the ink
What would you regard j herbin lierre suvage or diamine sherwood - I am not so much on the colour but on the behaviour particularly with ordinary paper and pilot fountain pens
@@WayneBruce26 actually, I find it very manageable, even on bad papers; if anything, it actually dries a little quicker! Most ‘bad’ papers usually feather-out more, which disperses the ink over a larger surface area. 😀 My only Bay State Blue issue, is stickiness of the rubber plungers in the converter cartridge. 😢
@@WayneBruce26 yes, good guess! Extra-Fine for everything, as I also do schematics and drawings that must contain intricate details in a small size. As far as pens, usually cheaper ones that I will finish shaping and polishing the nibs, since having been disappointed by poorly factory-finished ones that were moderately expensive.
No, you don't need to match the name of the brands for inks and pens. As long as the ink is labeled for fountain pen use, you can feel free to use any ink in any pen you like!
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
Which ink is good and affordable for general note taking for students? (black, blue and red color) Waterproof and little to no bleedthrough/ showthrough?
Great video. I just bought 2 jar of Sheaffer ink, on black jar and one red jar with the intention of mixing and achieving sepia color. Do you think this is a good idea?
Hi there! In general, mixing inks from the same brand is safe. However, we still recommend a bit of caution: test out your mixture by adding drops of ink to a separate container (like a sample vial) and checking to make sure no precipitate forms. If your test ink looks okay, you can fill a pen with it!
For me, platinum carbon black feathers quite a lot on crappier paper, at least, more so than some other inks I use. It’s still a great ink, but I don’t see how it’s supposed to be well-behaved.
QUESTION N°1: How is the Rohrer & Klingner Salix a "blue-black"? It MIGHT be a LITTLE darker than Parker's "blue black", but both are mighty similar to Jinhao's "deep blue". None of those are "blue-black" to my eyes; they are merely a moderately darker blue than what you get from a ballpoint. A "blue-black" should look black at first glance. (any "___-black" ink should look black at first glance, otherwise why bother?) The "best" blue-black I've found (so far) is Diamine Twilight, from a wet/wettish nib. Very little if any feathering on cheap copy paper and colored/"construction" paper using wet Jinhao steel Extra Fine, Fine, and medium number 5 and 6 nibs. No bleed through, either. QUESTION N°2: What Sepia, Red-Black, and Green-Black inks do you recommend? Is there a better Green-Black than Monteverde Jade Noir from a wet nib?
Is it ok to use permanent marker ink in fountain pens? I don't have the budget to order fountain pen ink and they don't sell those around here. Only marker ink.
Carbon is a very heavy ink, practically ТУШЬ (russian lang.). They need to be constantly written and they will not cooperate with every feeder. In general, there are black/water resistant ones that are less demanding and more predictable.
That's the Pilot Metropolitan! www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Metropolitan-Fountain-Pens/ct/1706 We highly recommend this pen for beginners and intermediate users alike.
Some of these inks are formulated in a specific way that differs from other inks in the brand. However, some brands make a lineup of ink that have similar formulations. Platinum Classic inks, for example, all work similarly. Rohrer & Klingner inks, on the other hand, only have a few iron gall inks. We hope that helps!
When it comes to decent quality paper (not copy paper but neither Rhodia - let's say something in between) would you still recommend the X-Feather? thank you
Noodlers Black Moccasin wardens is the best black ink I have ever used. It is tamper proof, permanent, does not feather and is serial numbered. Every bottle is sightly different in that it can be traced chemically to prove a signature was tampered with. It is also water washable even if dried in the pen. Cellulose in paper is what gives it's permanent binding properties. It even flows on a fine point nib. I was not impressed with Waterman's or Mont Blanc's ink at all.
Im looking for a ink that can be used with alcohol markers. Even my noodlers x-feather leave smudges so im hoping some pro users can give me some advice?
Hi blueGaming, Not all inks work in fountain pens. Stay away from India/calligraphic ink in Michael's Art Stores unless you buy separate dip calligraphic nib pen sets. Also no Shallac inks, they will clog up the fountain pen feed unit and ruin the feed forever where you have to replace both nib and feed. 3 most important equipment for a good writing experience = 1) pen, 2) ink color & properties & 3) fountain pen friendly paper like { receipt paper, Claire Fontaine, Tomoae river, Campus, Mauruman paper [smooth coated paper but takes time for ink to dry]} Welcome to the fountain pen community.
Happy New Year everyone! What are your plans for New Year's Eve? The products list is now up in the description box so check that out.
Getting broke after spending my last penny on stationery. That's about it.
Do the platinum classic inks turn black after a little while or retain some colour? Thanks.
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The rohrer & klingner "salix" is water-soluble ink? If it isn't, how many weeks I should clean my pen by using this ink?
@@ΚωνσταντίνοςΡεμούνδος Hi there, that ink is iron gall ink, which is highly waterproof. We recommend cleaning your fountain pen every four weeks.
Thanks to noodler’s x feather ink, eventually I can Write my letters on toilet Paper
This guy knew toilet paper will be the one on which legends of human history during corona will be written.
dhruv rana
Lmao
Handy if you’re stuck in the loo with one sheet left, and have to poke a note under the door asking for emergency resupply😉
I knew this guy
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That he actually documented the corona plague on toilet paper. One day, it will be the stuff of legends, he said.
I tend to write on toilet paper more often than normal paper so this ink really seems like what I need. Unfortunately, my teachers wouldn’t accept my essay when it was on a roll of toilet paper but due to not being able to attend school in person, I am now back to my old ways.
The pronunciation on Rohrer and Klingner was perfect. And by saying Pelikan instead of pelican, also in a perfect accent, was a nice touch. Thank you for the extra effort, from Germany!
As a student in German, I caught that too. I am also very inclined into choosing an ink or pen if it's German.
I love the perfect german pronounciation. A big thank you from germany.
Hum kaise sikhe batao
Why are the pronunciations always on point with this channel I love it
1:44 thats some spectacular german pronunciation!
M b woohga ut klinna solix..
I'm impressed!
Yeah,i could not get enough of that strong guttural German enunciation.
She has German roots.
Honestly I would just love to see someone testing variations of the same ink colour of different brands.
Waterman black was my first ink. It works well on everything and I always have at least one pen loaded with it. Great video.
Happy new year!
I love the Rohrer & Klingner Salix. I have this in my pocket pen as my EDC. It's perfect for documents (iron gall ink stands the test of time) and it has a great color. And indeed it's so good on both bad paper and on the great Rhodia/Clairefontaine.
Don't fear the iron gall label. R&K managed to have a "new" formula and it's especially made for fountain pens. It works great with steel nibs. Love this ink.
Happy New Year! Thanks for sharing about your experience.
@@piolopscl In case you're still wondering, no, Salix dries out to be pretty light (medium tone)! It looks very aged and stylish especially on ivory paper. I highly recommend it :)
I personally recommend Sailor Kiwaguro black ink. It's like Platinum Carbon, but it's easier to clean. I have it in a fine nib and I can easily write on Xuan paper (which isn't even meant for pens, since it's so fragile). I also have it in a Kuretake fude pen and the ink writes just as well as a proper Chinese calligraphy ink.
Just be aware that X-feather is most likely also a pigmented ink. While this has not been officially confirmed, cleaning it out of a pen looks exactly like it does with other black pigment inks , which is very noticably different from cleaning out dye-based inks.
Pelikan royal blue is also a fantastic ink for a bad paper - no bleeedthrough or feathering with a japanese fine nib or a german medium(pretty wet writing pen too) writing on a fairly cheap 11 y.o. spiral notebook that seen it's better times
I generally use 70-80gsm copy paper for day to day stuff, and my work requires me to take a lot of notes. I've been quite happy with how my J Herbin, Pelikan, Sailor, and Pilot inks behave with them. Are they the best? Heh, I wouldn't know. Btw, the first option you listed has quite a lot of bleedthrough compared to the rest IMO.
Can you give the exact names of the inks you mnetioned? Like Pelikan 4001 or Edelstein?
@@UmitSeyhan75 ooh gosh i left that comment 3 years ago and a lot has changed. What I learned is that for regular copy paper, you want to use a drier ink to avoid bleedthrough. Pelikan 4001 inks are good for this purpose. I have become more discerning/ picky about paper and ink performance since, and have stopped using copy paper in favour of FP friendly stuff. I can't remember the other specific inks any more.
O noes I need more money to pursue my stationery addiction.
the first black one.....i thought i was blind, like she says theres no bleedthrough but the back of the paper looked like a hot mess
@O K What does bulletproof mean this comment has been keeping me up at night for a week
@@intoxicatedelephant it means that it is water resistant- water proof and does not fade colour as much over time
@@intoxicatedelephant It means you can use it in school, even in America!
Sailor carbon black is a much better option than platinum carbon black or Noodlers black or x-feather for bad paper. It’s as bleed and feather resistant as salix or other IG inks, but it flows amazingly well, and has been easy to clean out of most pens
I was just going to buy some ink, so this is great timing! I will probably pick up a Waterman ink.
It is pretty good.
Buy it I use one
Never tried Waterman.
Most of my inks are Noodler's with some Monteverde and DeAtramentis inks and Platinum Carbon Black.
Noodler's has more than one type of black ink....I have them all except for X-Feather.
Did you tryed the Red Waterman ink? Its good? Rich red a search. I like R&K, Diamine Ink and Herbin and Krishna Ink. Have some samples.
Waterman is well known for selling low-price, well behaved inks. I bought Inspired blue and Serenity blue and they're both awesome! I also got the Intense black ink. It's pretty good except for the fact it's not that intense😅
X-Feather blue is a superb deep blue from a wet nib too. I don't have issues with it drying slowly on good quality paper.
The last one got me DEAD! For the worst paper? 🤣!
Waterman’s Serenity Blue is seriously good, it writes great and is super easy to clean out of of the pen.
Noodler's X-Feather is what Jimmy McGill used in that one Better Call Saul episode where he wrote an entire legal document on toliet paper, confirmed! 😂
I especially like Noodler’s X-feather BLUE. It’s a beautiful deep true blue, smooth and well-behaved, and I haven’t had issues with slow drying even on good paper. It’s bulletproof, too.
I agree about Waterman’s Audacious Red as an intense warm true red. I use it along with Diamine Meadow (a bright yellow-leaning green dark enough for legibility) and Noodler’s Southwest (formerly Apache) Sunset for annotation. I also like the gorgeous darker red, Diamine Red Dragon.
I use Platinum Carbon Black all the time in a range of nibs and so far it has behaved well over months even in EF nibs. A great ink for writing and drawing.
I think the Parker Quink Blue ink also fits into this group. I use it with a medium point pen and 75g reed-based copy paper and it doesn't bleed through to the other side, nor does it bleed, it dries quickly and the Color intensity is good, but it is affected by water.
thanks for the recommendation.
Nib size makes a big difference. The pens I keep for any paper all have fine nibs. Same ink with a broad or fine nib behaves very differently.
3:02 if u did that in 2020, that is basically the ultimate flex ever
I use Waterman "inspired" blue in one of my fountain pens and it works great on cheap memo pad paper no bleed or feathering. One brand, that you didn't mention, that also works well on cheap thin paper out of a fountain pen is Monteverde ink's Yosemite Green. It's obvious I like writing with crazy inks. But those 2 colors are vibrant and fun. The Monteverde and waterman inks have some great colors.
My favorite black ink for use on ordinary paper is carbon black inkjet printer ink. At about $15/500ml it has the added advantage that it's super cheap. I'd bet money that's what Platinum Carbon Black actually is, but I have not yet had a chance to do a side by side comparison. I figured that if it wouldn't clog print nozzles designed to apply ink in picoliter droplets then it won't clog up a fountain pen, and for the past month, writing almost exclusively with it in three guineapens, I have had zero problems with it. As always, your mileage may vary.
@TRS800 : The thing is that inkjet printers expect some feathering. That's how they mix colors in addition to the pointilist effect. I've used dye based inkjet inks in fountain pens and they feather and bleed EVERYWHERE. I might try again sometime with diluting them to see if that tames the bleeding, when I'm in the mood for another inksperiment.
Why didn't you include Parker Quink ink. That one is a gem. So affordable and so good. The pigmentation is perfect and it doesn't bleed on 70gsm regular copy paper.
Its a must try for regular fountain pen users!
If Black then yes, but for blue, aah, even after 1-2 days I think, it fades and blue colour gets so fade its not as rich and legible anymore.
And its seriously affected by any amount of water on paper
Parker Quink Blue Black is my favorite 😊
I mixed it wth a little black and its amazing..
I agree, Parker Quink is underrated - its excellent quality and value for money
@@debjaniroychoudhury7657 will it be compatible with classmate paper?
0.3 nib
I remember in college the book store had one brand of note paper that worked well with fountain pens. All the others weren't any better than the paper towels you used in the video ;) And in those pre-internet days the only ink I could easily get was Parker Quink. Which didn't help the bleeding problem any though it did dry quickly. I still took notes starting at the bottom of the page and working up though, whether using a fountain pen or a ball point.
Although I try really hard not to write on crappy paper, this is good to know! Love my Platinum Carbon Black and all my Waterman' not a fan of Noodler's and need to look into R & K for their off-black shades. Thanks!
Do you mind me asking why you're not a fan of Noodler's ink? My very first glass dip pens are on the way and that is actually the brand I was planning on trying. I've heard so many pros but would love to be informed about the cons as well. Thanks ahead of time if you reply 😊
@@kecola personal preference. The X-feather dries slowly, some don't like the color, cost etc. Noodler is a safe bet for what I've heard.
Is there a black ink that would work well with standard moleskine? They have dropped their paper quality some time ago.
I've found that Platinum Blue Black (iron gall) works well also. Many iron gall inks seem too, although I cannot vouch for them all.
I'm a teacher so I have the worst of both worlds - poor paper and forced ink colours. For that reason I tend to use Waterman Audacious red. I like the idea of the Pelikan, but it looks too orange to me.... for work, that is; I use a lot of oranges for other stuff!
I'm using the Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Red to grade papers and it doesn't look anything like in this video. I can highly recommend it. (Maybe they changed the recipe at some point?)
I'm a teacher and I hate using red to grade papers! I love the purple-blacks and green-blues.
I own a 1970 vintage Meisterstück 149, M-size nib. It behaves greatly on my Rhodia paper, but only with it. I mostly often takes notes at work and I need a better ink to use on these ordinary papers.
From the video I got the feeling of her using mostly F-size nibs. I own a Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black and it does really well with my F nib Lamy Safari, but it just makes a mess with my MB 149.
I wanted to know if this X-Reader could work with a M-nib 149, before buying.
For all the years I avoided using fountain pens it was always because I thought there was some specialty to them that would make them less compatible with my every day tasks of writing. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have yet to find a pen and ink combination that is so bad on even the cheapest paper that I have that it is unusable. I have never found a combination that is worse than the cheapest rollerball pens I have. (The only time I've found a combination that is unusable, it is because I'm not writing on paper at all, which is solved by ballpoint or marker.) The worst thing that will happen is some nice property of the ink will be lost/wasted on cheaper paper, and for that I reason I would say the best ink for cheap paper is whatever is cheapest. And indeed some of the cheaper brands like plain Parker, Pilot or Pelikan entry lines, all perform well on cheap paper. And one final note is that I write on a lot of cheap paper, and I've found some of the notebooks I've bought even from the dollar store work well enough that my nicer shading or sheening inks work on them and show the full effect.
Royal Blue, is my favorite colour for a darker Blue, apart Turquoise, which looks astonishing and so aquatic in any paper.
Very glad that each of these are decently affordable for their high capacity.
When you said Rohrer und Klingner it sounded like a native speaker would say it. Not bad
She has German roots.
A very effective and informative presentation. I learned a lot. Thank you.
Hey JetPens! In addition to Pelikan Brilliant Red, I also discovered that the Pelikan 4001 Violet fountain pen ink could write on ordinary notebook paper with no feathering and bleedthrough.☺️🇵🇭🖋️
My absolute favorite color is produced by brilliant green solution. Unfortunately, it is ethanol based, so it would ruin a fountain pen. But it's so beautiful!
the good German pronunciation really surprised me that was nice. :D
in general I think the ink of most German brands that also have school pens (lamy, Pelikan, online, herlitz) will probably work fine with cheaper school notebook paper made for students and will do okay with printer paper... the kids have to be able to write their tests on print-outs after all.
I know I'm not color blind... and Red is my FAVORITE color... but... why does it look orange??? Possibly contrast on your part. 🤔🤷♂️
That's a really helpful video but my concern with regular paper and fountain pen writing is not an ink that doesn't feather or bleed through (that's important too, no doubt!), it is mostly the damaging of the nib because of the abrasive nature and level of absorbency of such papers. It happened to one of my M nib pen, the slit of the nib was picking the fibres of the copy paper causing all sorts of problems.
Hi Soultana! That's a great point. Luckily, paper fibers in the nib slit won't cause any long term issues as long as you clean the the slit regularly. You can use a slim piece of brass or other material in order to "floss" between the tines.
@@JetPens Hey! Thank you for your reply! That's true, however in my case I had severe railroading issues even after pen cleaning and maintenance and I believe it was because I was fiddling quite frequently with the tines in my effort to remove the paper fibres. I ultimately had to remove and fine tune my nib. Anyway, my point is that of course you can use low quality paper, the inks that you recommend are great for that purpose but I would highly recommend to use less expensive pens when writing on cheap paper. :-)
I think this is your best video ever. I'd love for you to revisit this list - and maybe feature more inks? I'd be very interested to hear your take on Octopus inks - I don't think you carry this ink at present.
Could you label the fountain pens that were used with each ink?
Suggest me a blue ink which doesn't changes its ink colour after writing
Wow! What beautiful handwriting. :-)
I have a free fountain pen that came with noodles ink. I have filled it and it doesn’t flow ink. Can you help?
Please contact us at jetpens@jetpens.com for assistance!
ink is the last to blame for bad paper. In order to minimize "problems" always, but always use fine & extra fine nibs for start and then concentrate on the ink
I have one lamy safari fine nib. Now use lamy t51 black ink. Pls suggest good waterproof black ink for me..
Very helpful video. Made first fountain pen purchase of the year from jetpens!😁❤️
Absolutely brilliant review!: thanks :)
other pelikans do the same trick?
Good to know my go to ink brand is on here
I own the Pellikan one, but blue. It really is good ink. 👍
I use it in a Platignum Studio(no not Platinum that makes the Preppy) and pretty happy with it.
@@mhammadalloush5104 will the other colors have the same properties?
You said pelikan red , can I use blue?
All Pelikan 4001 inks are good for paper of dubious quality, I use the royal blue and it works great on everything I've tried so far!
What would you regard j herbin lierre suvage or diamine sherwood - I am not so much on the colour but on the behaviour particularly with ordinary paper and pilot fountain pens
which ink doesnt bleed or feather and drys fast on ordinary paper
I have the exact same MP with me.... And new year new ink haha I'll get myself a waterman this time. Thanks Jetpens.
What to do none of my black fountain pen work through cartraige give me some suggestions
I use X-Feather and Baystate-Blue as my ‘daily-drivers’; both need a bit to dry but worth it!
As a baystate-blue user, how do you manage to keep it controlled on bad paper?
@@WayneBruce26 actually, I find it very manageable, even on bad papers; if anything, it actually dries a little quicker!
Most ‘bad’ papers usually feather-out more, which disperses the ink over a larger surface area. 😀
My only Bay State Blue issue, is stickiness of the rubber plungers in the converter cartridge. 😢
@@SpinStar1956 may I ask you your pen of choice and nib size? I'm guessing extra fine for that cheap paper
@@WayneBruce26 yes, good guess! Extra-Fine for everything, as I also do schematics and drawings that must contain intricate details in a small size. As far as pens, usually cheaper ones that I will finish shaping and polishing the nibs, since having been disappointed by poorly factory-finished ones that were moderately expensive.
So these all really good with 0.2 very fine tips?
Happy New Years!
I am new to fountain pens and I bought a pretty one from alliexprs my question is do you have to use a certain name brand for whatever pen you have?
No, you don't need to match the name of the brands for inks and pens. As long as the ink is labeled for fountain pen use, you can feel free to use any ink in any pen you like!
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
Will the waterman black ink work
Carbon is my go to for drawing. Best black ink.
3:15 Fine or extra-F nib?
That's a fine!
Which ink is good and affordable for general note taking for students? (black, blue and red color) Waterproof and little to no bleedthrough/ showthrough?
Does waterman blue ink fade after few months????
I have a doubt which is the best gel ink bottle
Very helpful review. Thank you.
Great video. I just bought 2 jar of Sheaffer ink, on black jar and one red jar with the intention of mixing and achieving sepia color. Do you think this is a good idea?
Hi there! In general, mixing inks from the same brand is safe. However, we still recommend a bit of caution: test out your mixture by adding drops of ink to a separate container (like a sample vial) and checking to make sure no precipitate forms. If your test ink looks okay, you can fill a pen with it!
@@JetPens Thank you very much for your help.
Is waterman ink water resistant?
What pens are you using in order of appearance? kind regards from Belgium.
What is the name of the pen showed in 1:17?
Hi! It's this pen: www.jetpens.com/Faber-Castell-Loom-Fountain-Pens/ct/4914
For me, platinum carbon black feathers quite a lot on crappier paper, at least, more so than some other inks I use. It’s still a great ink, but I don’t see how it’s supposed to be well-behaved.
Best thing of this clip is music! What song it is?
We get all of our music on Audio Jungle!
Ummmm hi i am wondering when will you make a video about 2019 school supplies tnx
Rohrer & Klingner is my favorite ink brand. Closely followed by Pelikan and Waterman.
@MrVm1980 I haven't written with "Salix" yet. But I can say that "emerald green" looks like it for instance.
QUESTION N°1: How is the Rohrer & Klingner Salix a "blue-black"? It MIGHT be a LITTLE darker than Parker's "blue black", but both are mighty similar to Jinhao's "deep blue". None of those are "blue-black" to my eyes; they are merely a moderately darker blue than what you get from a ballpoint. A "blue-black" should look black at first glance. (any "___-black" ink should look black at first glance, otherwise why bother?) The "best" blue-black I've found (so far) is Diamine Twilight, from a wet/wettish nib. Very little if any feathering on cheap copy paper and colored/"construction" paper using wet Jinhao steel Extra Fine, Fine, and medium number 5 and 6 nibs. No bleed through, either.
QUESTION N°2:
What Sepia, Red-Black, and Green-Black inks do you recommend? Is there a better Green-Black than Monteverde Jade Noir from a wet nib?
Do these inks work on 5star composition notebook paper and average non branded loose-leaf paper?
Is it ok to use permanent marker ink in fountain pens?
I don't have the budget to order fountain pen ink and they don't sell those around here. Only marker ink.
Hi there! We don't recommend using permanent marker ink in fountain pens as it can permanently damage your pen.
Carbon is a very heavy ink, practically ТУШЬ (russian lang.). They need to be constantly written and they will not cooperate with every feeder. In general, there are black/water resistant ones that are less demanding and more predictable.
Hi, can you please tell me the name of the pen used for the last ink: Noodlers x feather?
And would ypu highly recommend the pen? Thank you!
That's the Pilot Metropolitan! www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Metropolitan-Fountain-Pens/ct/1706
We highly recommend this pen for beginners and intermediate users alike.
@@JetPens thanks!
Excellent topic! Thanks!
Hi. What kind of ink was at 0:20 ?
That's J. Herbin Cornaline d'Egypte Ink! You can find it here: www.jetpens.com/J.-Herbin-Cornaline-d-Egypte-Ink-1798-Collection-50-ml-Bottle/pd/24661
Why no PARKER QUINK in here? It is rather good quality and relatively cheap. It have a good balance between waterproof and cleaning pen from it.
Make a video on Daytone inks as well.
Only those specific brand color works or the brand as a whole and any color you choose would be sufficient enough
Some of these inks are formulated in a specific way that differs from other inks in the brand. However, some brands make a lineup of ink that have similar formulations. Platinum Classic inks, for example, all work similarly. Rohrer & Klingner inks, on the other hand, only have a few iron gall inks. We hope that helps!
When it comes to decent quality paper (not copy paper but neither Rhodia - let's say something in between) would you still recommend the X-Feather? thank you
Rohrer & Klingner Salix is an iron gall?
Yes it is!
I've tried Rotring and Pelikan 4001 and is not a brillant black after dry. what's your suggestion?
Check out our guide on the Best Black Fountain Pen Inks: www.jetpens.com/blog/the-best-black-fountain-pen-inks/pt/20
i use Sheaffer script black and Waterman Serenity blue , Waterman red, my MontBlanc Green is not the best for cheap paper.
Noodlers Black Moccasin wardens is the best black ink I have ever used. It is tamper proof, permanent, does not feather and is serial numbered. Every bottle is sightly different in that it can be traced chemically to prove a signature was tampered with. It is also water washable even if dried in the pen. Cellulose in paper is what gives it's permanent binding properties. It even flows on a fine point nib.
I was not impressed with Waterman's or Mont Blanc's ink at all.
Awesome
Good job please keep making
Im looking for a ink that can be used with alcohol markers. Even my noodlers x-feather leave smudges so im hoping some pro users can give me some advice?
Hi there! We recommend giving Platinum Carbon Ink a shot: www.jetpens.com/Platinum-Carbon-Ink-Black-60-ml-Bottle/pd/3461
Does any ink work for every fountain pen or not?
Hi blueGaming,
Not all inks work in fountain pens. Stay away from India/calligraphic ink in Michael's Art Stores unless you buy separate dip calligraphic nib pen sets. Also no Shallac inks, they will clog up the fountain pen feed unit and ruin the feed forever where you have to replace both nib and feed.
3 most important equipment for a good writing experience = 1) pen, 2) ink color & properties & 3) fountain pen friendly paper like { receipt paper, Claire Fontaine, Tomoae river, Campus, Mauruman paper [smooth coated paper but takes time for ink to dry]}
Welcome to the fountain pen community.
How can I improve my handwriting to that of in the video?
Watch calligraphy videos and Practice
Hello - excellent video! Which pen is shown at 2:39?
Hi! That's a TWSBI Diamond Mini Classic: www.jetpens.com/TWSBI-Diamond-Mini-Fountain-Pens/ct/2657
@@JetPens Thank you so much!