MOC 12 | Dr. Ratio No Nihility Hypercarry & Aventurine Hypercarry w/ Jiaoqiu | Honkai Star Rail 2.4

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  • @Lupper0205
    @Lupper0205 4 місяці тому +142

    Aventurine hypercarry never fails to amaze me 🤩

    • @aurumen4706
      @aurumen4706 4 місяці тому +15

      and it isnt even like those fake hypercarries where robin does most of the damage

    • @Clown_Pazzurdo.
      @Clown_Pazzurdo. 4 місяці тому

      How is it possible that if Aventurine plays with Ruan mei and Sparkle the damage is all her own, while if any unit plays with Robin it is a fraud and is actually a Robin showcase? Robin's buffing method also involves giving extra damage to whoever attacks, why is this part of the kit unfair to you?​@@aurumen4706

  • @chiemorrison7117
    @chiemorrison7117 4 місяці тому +70

    aventurine is the most broken unit in this game, not only does he provide shields that literally don't let your characters get hurt at all but in a hypercarry setup casually dishes out almost 200k damage 😭 in.sane.

    • @ryuki9788
      @ryuki9788 4 місяці тому +2

      most broken goes to Robin

    • @avej99
      @avej99 4 місяці тому +2

      And yet people still try to cop and say fu xuan is better than

  • @EnigmataFollower
    @EnigmataFollower 4 місяці тому +44

    Aventurine hyper carry, the only comps that make sure your 3 support is absolute safe

  • @cheltibot8378
    @cheltibot8378 4 місяці тому +62

    Aventurine Hyperwhat? wow man, that's crazy

  • @Tylting
    @Tylting  4 місяці тому +44

    I did 2 10 pulls and got Jiaoqiu so I wasn't exactly planning on building him so his traces aren't maxed yet since I'm gated by EoW reset. Anyways, I'm late to the game, but first impressions at E0S0 is he's pretty good, but worse than/roughly equal to the common Harmonies in non-Nihility carry teams (i.e. everyone but Acheron and Kafka).
    For Ratio, I didn't really notice a difference between Jiaoqiu and Pela, with the only relevant one being weakness matching for AS. Obviously at E0S1, and especially at E1S1, Jiaoqiu is much better than Pela, but at E0S0 it's barely anything as expected. As for Topaz, Jiaoqiu is roughly equal (assuming he's E0S1 while she's E0S1/E1S1) but he has the advantage of boosting all of Robin and Aventurine's damage so with him the team will likely do more total damage.
    For this Aventurine hypercarry, Pela was worse by 1 cycle, and she was slower on the first wave, equal pace on Argenti.
    I'll do some more testing with Argenti, but so far he is still a Harmony sidegrade to Sparkle or Tingyun (with Huohuo, otherwise Tingyun is still mandatory unless you're doing -1 SPD Bronya), but worse than Robin or lining up Sparkle-Bronya (which is expected). It does feel worse to play though due to the lack of action advance for Argenti.
    For 0 cyclers though, he'll be at the top since he provides a whole new multiplier that the Harmonies don't inflate. I guess my current opinion is he's pretty good but not the best for a second support option for non Acheron or Kafka teams, extremely good when dropping sustain for more damage.

    • @ZevrinYT
      @ZevrinYT 4 місяці тому +2

      Ooh you got the pink fox! Grats! I also went for him (e0S1). I really like using him with Argenti (Bronya, Jaoqiu, Huohuo) since I don't have Sparkle, he works great there for me. And of course with Ratio (&Robin) for the defuffs feast.
      As for your run, the Aventurine Hypercarry are always so impressive! Like, what? Aventurine dude you're supposed to be a tank (He did't get the memo).

    • @ineedsleepyow
      @ineedsleepyow 4 місяці тому

      Hey mind if I ask on how much does Jiaoqiu boost Robin’s damage in a Ratio team?

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +3

      @@ineedsleepyow iirc vulnerability is a final multiplier, so he more or less increases her damage by 35%. Concerto procs aren't considered as ultimate damage though, but his Ashen roast stacks work. More if he's wearing Resolution LC or his signature.

    • @dazzle810
      @dazzle810 4 місяці тому

      ​@Tylting you should try robin hypercarry with jiaoqiu

  • @umusuarioqualquer5491
    @umusuarioqualquer5491 4 місяці тому +13

    Me reading my recomendations was like:
    [Reads Ratio Nihility, Something Hypercarry] Wait, what??? Oh, ok...
    [Reads again Ratio no Nihility, Aventurine Hypercarry] Wait... WHAT?????

  • @chrisinfinite9447
    @chrisinfinite9447 4 місяці тому +5

    Ah, a fellow hypercarry aventurine enjoyer

  • @КрутоТипТа
    @КрутоТипТа 4 місяці тому +5

    Ratio at the top… (half)
    Aven at the bottom… (half)

  • @squibbo56
    @squibbo56 4 місяці тому +2

    never thought id see the day that aventurine is used as a dps

  • @YasmineTea233
    @YasmineTea233 4 місяці тому +16

    damn your aventurine hits harder than my jingliu 😂😅

  • @FireFly_best_girl
    @FireFly_best_girl 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video , i recommend u to lower the music in the back ground 😊

  • @nku17662
    @nku17662 4 місяці тому +8

    Arknights music on hsr video caught me off guard lol

  • @LilAlaric
    @LilAlaric 4 місяці тому +13

    Man how you get so lucky with your relics?! 😭

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +27

      I farm for multiple characters at once in the same domain, so everyone gets hand-me-down pieces until everyone's suitably geared for my tastes.
      I sat in the Prisoner/Duke domain for a few months until I got enough pieces to share among Jing Yuan, Clara, Topaz, Himeko, and Herta. Then I moved onto Watchmaker/Pioneer for Ratio, Aventurine, Ruan Mei, and HMC. Now I'm at Eagle for my supports. Anyone who doesn't use the sets I farm, I just use 2pc/2pc ATK% sets or rainbow to get the substats I need, like Argenti and Dan Heng IL.

    • @truong377
      @truong377 4 місяці тому +3

      ​​@@Tyltingthis is so true lol , i farm for acheron and my ratio benefit from it , my aventurine benefit from it too. Now everyone hit like a truck XD

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 4 місяці тому +1

    I would run Aventurine hypercarry...but I have no limited harmony

  • @Gamermonkey-nq7wp
    @Gamermonkey-nq7wp 4 місяці тому +2

    Could you do a run with no signatures on jingyuan and ratio? Currently coping cause mine can’t do damage even though they’re not badly built

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +8

      Without signatures, you'd clear slower by like a cycle assuming you have the same stats as me.
      Generally, when people say their characters don't do enough damage despite being "decently built", my first questions are if their Crit rate is at least 70-80% before any buffs, are they using SPD boots on someone who doesn't benefit from them much, are you timing all your buffs and/or debuffs when you do your main damage rotation, are you playing around enemy mechanics or the Turbulence such as breaking enemies if possible.

  • @raylee6348
    @raylee6348 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the showcase! With the new reruns coming out, other than getting robin e0s1/e1s1 (very unsure on what to get), is e0s1 topaz enough to support ratio for him to constantly do debuffs? Thanks in advance!

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      Moze has 2 debuffs without pulling for either a limited E1 or S1 iirc, so I'd just use him instead of Topaz. Or Jiaoqiu/Pela with Pearls. All of them are roughly equal to Topaz (and in some cases better).

    • @raylee6348
      @raylee6348 4 місяці тому

      @@Tylting Thanks, my problem is that I really like topaz and think that she's really good in terms of future investment. Would it still be okay to use her? Or is the lack of debuffs at e0s0 really that bad

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      E0S0 Topaz is bad for Ratio imo, as she neither has enough debuffs for consistent Ratio FUA's and her personal damage is medicore. If you really like her, I'd aim for E0S1, but if you don't have enough pulls to spare I'd skip and just use Moze/Pela/Jiaoqiu.

  • @azdrinn_skargi
    @azdrinn_skargi 4 місяці тому +1

    I thought, Aventurine is E6 :O

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +1

      If he was E6 I could probably 0 cycle lol.

  • @tamagnocchi1210
    @tamagnocchi1210 4 місяці тому

    In a Ratio Topaz Aventurine Robin team do I use spd boots or atk boots on Ratio and Topaz?

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      SPD boots.

  • @keita_.
    @keita_. 4 місяці тому

    Ambaturine

  • @ihyouka
    @ihyouka 4 місяці тому

    Can you do Crit Kafka Hypercarry?

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      Don't have her.

    • @ihyouka
      @ihyouka 4 місяці тому

      @@Tylting Awww :( well it’s okay 😔

  • @andreoktaviano1831
    @andreoktaviano1831 4 місяці тому

    If i use sustain and have Robin, Sparkle, Tingyun and Pela. which one is better for me to choose to put in Ratio's party?

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      Robin + Pela, or Tingyun + Robin and use Gallagher.

  • @aranarus
    @aranarus 4 місяці тому

    Почти у всех ивентовых персонажей эйдолон и сигнатурное оружие, сложно такими дорогими сборками не пройти плохо.

    • @starfrost04
      @starfrost04 4 місяці тому

      иди смотри фулл 4* забеги от тех же иностранцев, раз о боги люди используют полезные консты и созвездия чтобы спокойно все проходить)) ахерон без сигны работает в разы хуже, но никто же не жалуется

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +1

      I mean, I didn't post this with intention of it being a step-by-step #relatable clear. Sparkle's E1 and Ruan Mei's LC are pretty worthless since Aventurine doesn't scale from ATK and the extra SP isn't relevant for him. Robin's LC can easily be substituted for Bronya's LC as well. I finished with 5 cycles remaining, so if you had worse relics or missed some LC's, you have a lot of leeway. Although Aventurine LC is such a giant difference to becoming a legitimate sub-DPS (main DPS in this case) due to the lacking 4* options.

    • @aranarus
      @aranarus 4 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@Tylting, так для Авантюрина можно купить 4* световой конус на урон, а так же можно достать в баннере 4* конус, похожий на его личное оружие. Они обо направлены на урон персонажа сохранения. Почему вы их не использовали?

  • @nhannguyenhuu5881
    @nhannguyenhuu5881 4 місяці тому

    can you do a run with qingque fighting against the 3 puppets? I wanna to see the gambling girl bully them :D

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      If it's Mono Quantum, hard no. Trying to brute force while maintaining SP efficiency with having to implant each enemy + QQ's RNG is awful. Otherwise it'd be Gallagher + 2 Harmonies + QQ.

    • @nhannguyenhuu5881
      @nhannguyenhuu5881 4 місяці тому

      @@Tylting I want to see Qingque in that team setup destroy the 3 puppets :> Can you make a video about it?
      You can use any team you want, it doesn't have to be Mono Quantum.
      Because I know implanting 3 Quantum Weakness to them this just a Nightmare already...

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      @@nhannguyenhuu5881 I'm a little busy at the moment + the next MOC rotation is starting soon, so I probably won't be able to do it unfortunately.

    • @nhannguyenhuu5881
      @nhannguyenhuu5881 4 місяці тому

      @@Tylting oh ok then, keep up the great work man! Don't stress yourself out.

  • @HsrMy
    @HsrMy 4 місяці тому

    How does ratio always guarantee fua with less debuff on enemy😮

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому

      Ratio + Gallagher technique is 2 debuffs. Ratio's skill gives another, so that's 3, which is exactly enough. Gallagher's EBA and breaking (imprisonment/burn) also give extra debuffs.

  • @danalynch118
    @danalynch118 4 місяці тому

    IM SORRY NO NIHILITY. TF YOU MEAN NO NIHILITY FOR RATIO

    • @konodioda150
      @konodioda150 4 місяці тому

      Ratio's best team which is RRAT team has no nihility though? Even with a Moze variant team without Topaz, there is still no nihility. Plus, double harmony can actually work with Ratio if you have him with Topaz LC and using Aventurine as sustain with his own sig LC since I tried it and have been 0-3 cycling MoC with that team.

    • @danalynch118
      @danalynch118 4 місяці тому

      @@konodioda150 To get his 100% guaranteed fua you need three debuffs which is why that’s wild to me lol

    • @konodioda150
      @konodioda150 4 місяці тому

      @@danalynch118 You can have atleast 3 debuffs if you use Topaz lightcone on Ratio and have Aven use his own signature LC

    • @danalynch118
      @danalynch118 4 місяці тому

      @@konodioda150 Fair enough. I’ve just never seen a ratio team w/o at least one nihility character lol

    • @konodioda150
      @konodioda150 4 місяці тому

      @@danalynch118 But again, Ratio's literal best team (Ratio, Robin, Topaz, Aventurine) has no nihility characters though? I'm confused lol

  • @xungas6928
    @xungas6928 3 місяці тому

    These teams are not so pure

  • @misterfake442
    @misterfake442 4 місяці тому +3

    more like robin showcase

    • @Tylting
      @Tylting  4 місяці тому +23

      Yeah because she totally did all the damage, is totally energy self sufficient, and broke all 3 puppets on her own. I might as well have just put her solo and I'd clear in the same time.

    • @ChAnTAxR
      @ChAnTAxR 4 місяці тому +12

      Are robin mains okay? I swear the moment feixiao came out you guys turned into a religious cult and praise her on every single video?

  • @КрутоТипТа
    @КрутоТипТа 4 місяці тому +2

    Ratio at the top… (half)
    Aven at the bottom… (half)