Disney's Pinocchio Remake is INSULTINGLY BAD...
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No seriously, I hated this movie so much
I feel so bad for you 💀💀
Early
I don’t blame you, the tracking was awful. It looked like it was about to clip.
@Rick and Morty 🅥 go away
I can see why.
Also: The tracking issues are especially so embarrassing because this is a story about a WOODEN PUPPET. You're telling me they can have actors interact with plushes or have real animals on set which are then animated over in other movies, but this movie couldn't have made a WOODEN PINOCCHIO for Hanks to hold and animate over it??
Faxx
I didn't know they made bots that copied the actual UA-camrs with a fake checkmark lmao
NOT THE QUEEN, LMFAO
@Emotional D
Link to the clip of me caring:
@@daisanity6457 ikr lmaooo😭😭
I miss old Disney when they weren't afraid to show some scary stuff and made the happy ending feel more earned.
Me too :(
When is disney gonna release the live action movie of the black cauldron?
@@luiscancino5023 after this film, i hope that never happens
Even worst than that, actual mature movies and series they effing censor and edit out the mature stuff. Modern Disney is representing almost everything wrong with Corporations
@@AtomicVertigo_Comics
Seriously, seeing how they completely bastardized the entire pleasure island segment damn.
I didn't think it could get any worse from the other live action remakes but wow. Now I know why they dropped this turd directly onto Disney+.
Character lacks any agency because he's not allowed to make any choices. The entire point of the original movie is that Pinocchio CHOOSES to be bad against Jiminy's warnings. In this movie things kind of just happen around him.
Your right
To be quite honest the whole problem is that Disney is currently obsessed with being politically correct to the point it's breaking the company and ruining their movies because they cannot feature anything that isn't pristine and squeaky clean lest they run the risk of raising some eyebrows or offending one or two people.
@@TheDaniela3112 I agree. The approach they're taking to their movies is an approach guided by comments from Twitter moms and teens who spout random political bullshit at anything creative, making most companies feel the need to cower in fear and bend to the demands of Twitter.
@@quentinparhiala9415 My right what? Finish your sentence.
THIS! Pinocchio makes mistakes in the original. The whole section of Pleasure Island (without his conscience) is him rebelling and getting caught up in all the bad temptations. Something he then learns is wrong with the infamous "jackass" scene.
In the remake he is a "golden child"
When Maleficent first came out, I was excited. I thought the trend that Disney would take was going to be origin/backstory movies on all the villains, giving us new takes on classic Disney movies. Jafar. Ursula. Scar. Hook.
THAT would have been somewhat justified and THAT would have made them plenty of money, if not more! I could not be more disappointed about where they've been taking these remakes over the years. A shame.
That’s what I love about Maleficent it isn’t afraid to tell it’s own story and that’s okay in fact really creative!
oh my god yeah! maleficent is AMAZING and it's hardly even a remake. it tells its own story and it's just fantastic. i guess they tried to do the same with cruella but... no... she is literally just a villain. there's a world of difference between "i cursed a girl to sleep forever" and "I want a coat made out of dead puppies". EMBRACE the villain with cruella! show what MADE her so damn evil. but even cruella is better than this trash with Pinocchio..
The Lion King was bad..All versions. I wish Disney had gotten the rights to Kimba the White Lion and made their own Kimba movie like they wanted to. Instead of making that terrible ripoff.
Maleficient was great, Lion King 2 was also brilliant, Dalmatians remake and sequels were decent.
@@blueberrypitbull87 I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong :)
It's a weird decision to give Pinocchio a real solid wood texture, have his eyes PAINTED ON, and then animate THOSE. Like... the old Pinocchio had eyelids. Ventriloquist dummies have eye lids. some particularly impressive marionettes have eye lids! GIVE PINOCCHIO EYELIDS.
They did it so they could just swap out textures instead of needing to rig anything for the eyes.
@@Blurillaz that’s so frickin lazy!
@@Blurillaz And makes no sense cause they did it for that ballerina puppet 🙄
The toys in Toy Story 4 looks ten times more realistic than Pinocchio and that's not even live action.
He looks like Jimmy Neutron
Y'know every time I look at a CGI character that is terribly inserted into live action, I think back to the backbreaking work that they did in _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_ to make sure that every interaction between the real and the animated was as believable as possible, using trick sets and animatronics to allow cartoon characters to carry and use real objects, painstakingly animating light and shadows to match reality...
And then you have Tom Hanks awkwardly fumbling with an invisible puppet so they could paste a plastic-looking wooden boy into his hands.
They even had Roger stand on his toes at one point when they saw that Bob Hoskins (who was great in the film) didn't have the right eye line.
It's the part in when Roger says that RK Maroon might try to kill Eddie, and presses himself against a wall. Eddie says, "I can handle a Hollywood creampuff," and looks back at Roger.
The ONLY film I’ve seen that does the Roger Rabbit thing right in CG was strangely enough the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie from 2000
@@AnimationNation2004 what about the original Space Jam? Or Looney Tunes: Back in Action?
@@patrickcarter2829 well those were hand drawn but now that you mention Space Jam I guess I new legacy also would fit in this category as well.
And then they have the audacity to reference it in such a sell out film like they put any amount of effort into it/gave their animators the time to get it to that level
My biggest issue with this remake is they changed events related to the story in ways that ruin the overall message. Pinocchio in the original film is convinced to join the puppet show instead of going to school. This is why he faces the consequences of his actions. In this movie he actually makes it to school, defeating the purpose of the life lesson. When Pinocchio goes to Pleasure Island he indulges in smoking and even implies he was breaking things with an axe. He's then transformed into a donkey which was a metaphor for saying he was being a jackass. In contrast in this movie he refused to break anything, there weren't any cigars, and kids drinking root beer is hardly a problem. Once again this movie missed the true purpose of why the scene worked in the original. Being turned into a half donkey in this movie isn't justified.
The whole point of the original film is that Pinocchio doesn't know right from wrong and he's easily lead astray. And when he makes the wrong choices there are consequences for his actions. These experiences are meant to build his character into an individual that learned from his mistakes and eventually chooses to do the right thing. But in this movie he's already trying to do the right thing all along. Sure, he's easily convinced to do the wrong thing a few times almost choosing not to go to school, but Jiminy catches up with him convincing Pinocchio to go to school before he could complete his bad decision. Then there's the time where he selflessly put Geppetto before the puppet show and his donkey ears and tail vanish. The problem with this scene is it has no meaning because he never really tried to do anything wrong in the first place. When the plot is about learning from your mistakes and then the movie doesn't allow you to make them in the first place, you have failed to make a faithful adaptation.
You nailed the problem with this movie perfectly.
I mean the old cartoon made it pretty clear, Jiminy was supposed to represent Pinocchio's conscience and sometimes he didn't listen.
It feels like a recurring issue with a lot of Disney movies, remakes in particular, where they seem terrified of potentially making their protagonists anything other than 100% innocent and lovable characters. Like they're scared that if these characters sometimes make bad decisions, or even knowingly do something wrong, they'll have to face a Twitter mob of angry parents who can't comprehend that sometimes it helps teach children how NOT to do bad things by showing them characters who make bad choices, suffer consequences for their actions, and learn from their mistakes.
Another thing that I think they screwed up is that they made sure all of the antagonists were punished for their actions. Most of the villains not really getting any comeuppance was kind of a big thing in the original movie. Pinocchio might have learned from his lessons, but the people out there who preyed upon and took advantage of misbehaving children were still very much at large and doing their thing. Not only did they miss the mark on the message by making Pinocchio make good decisions pretty much every time, but they also missed it by essentially saying that the consequences of bad choices will vanish and never cause you problems again as long as someone makes the right decisions.
True. a person can't learn from something that never happened. he can never become a real boy because he never truly lived. to truly live is to make mistakes and learn from them. which by them not correctly showing that he turned into a real boy and made it so subtle to the point of it being seen as not happening makes me believe he learned nothing. this new remake was so jarring and a disgrace to the Disney who made the original.
Imagine this movie was partly founded by the tabacco industry and they didn't want cigars to be shown in a bad light in pleasure island - so they had to go.
I wouldn't be suprised.
Remember that emotional scene with Monstruo where Gepetto almost drowns and despite him telling Pinocchio to leave him and save himself, Pinocchio comes back without hesitation and bravely pulls him to shore? That terrifying scene where he’s fighting the current, the rising waters, and the fucking whale trying to kill them and Pinocchio despite being completely terrified sacrifices his life to save his dad? Where Gepetto unconsciously begs Pinocchio to leave him and then Jiminy finds Pinocchio's dead body in the water? Upon directly after everyone mourns Pinocchio and the Blue Fairy rewards him for his bravery and sacrifice in saving his father?
Well FUCK THAT says Disney and Robert Zemeckis.
Let’s just cut out Pinocchio’s saving his father in a beautiful and courageous sacrifice and then being rewarded by being human like the scene is nothing important! Let's just remake the scene from tangled because it worked SO WELL there! I guess like the new Mulan Pinocchio just has super powers now.
They completely missed the point yet AGAIN.
This fucking movie has angered me more than Mulan. Everything about it is wrong on some level.
That whole action scene near the end where they're escaping Monstro is so intense. It's in the same movie as the donkey scenes and it still might be the most intense thing in that movie. Plus I think that's possibly the most gorgeous water animation I've ever seen.
And they had Pinocchio pull a Rapunzel and cry on his dad back to life. UHG
@@animatrix1490 Water animation that they spent over a year trying to figure out how to make too. So much effort put in.
Something this film has NOTHING of.
That’s pretty much another reason why this remake is getting so much hate. Not only does it go completely against the message of it’s source material, it also has one of the most dull yet laughably lame climaxes that I’ve ever seen. There’s that moment of suspense 3/4 in a movie that gets people on the edge of their seats. In a movie where the climax involves a puppet out swimming a sea monster by turning into a motorboat my only reaction is going to be either laughing at the absurdity or no reaction whatsoever. These corporate hacks need to let their writers and animators do THEIR JOBS. I’d sooner wait for a masterpiece(regardless of how long) than have a piece of crap rushed into theaters. There are people that work for Disney that have passion but unfortunately they have to take orders from the executives like everyone and not many people at the top care about being creative. If they did they would encourage their workers to take their time and they would have no need whatsoever of planting characters that we know will cause political controversy just so they can hide behind them.
It sucks that 3D animation is considered an “upgrade” to 2D and not as an equal
True
Yes
Agreed, 2D isn't "outdated," (are classic 2D paintings "outdated" compared to 3D digital art?) there's some things 2D animation can do that 3D can't, and vice versa.
the reason it is considered an "upgrade" is because 3d animators aren't unionized
so they can then exploit them to their hearts content
You know we're going through hard times when Disney can't make Disney movies
It's funny bc Disney actually goes to Pixar to ask for unique story ideas/development
@@floral_hobi Disney honestly probably wouldn't still be around if it weren't for that fateful merger with Pixar (as well as mergers with Marvel, Lucasfilm, ESPN, ABC, and the non-Rupert Murdoch-dominated sections of Fox, just to be safe). If you've ever wondered how Shrek and Shrek 2, solid movies but hardly the best of the best of Dreamworks, dominated so hard in the early 2000's, it's because a lot of Disney's movies around the same time were of DIRE quality in comparison, and the movies they made that were decent (imo, Lilo and Stitch, Treasure Planet and Emperor's New Groove) were so poorly advertised because their marketing department was somehow even worse. And that's only talking about the theatrical releases, their already-mediocre straight-to-video releases seemed to have taken a nose-dive in quality around this time, too, outside of the weird exception of Cinderella 3.
Disney these days is like the Hollywood/animation equivalent of Facebook, they'd rather just buy out their competition instead of taking actual steps to improve the quality of their content, and it's shocking that they are not being investigated for their anti-competition behavior nearly as much as Facebook or Microsoft, if at all.
@@JeffreyThrash this right here is exactly it ! They would definitely be nothing without Pixar and their partner companies if they are practically having them do all the work. From idea, to concept, to story, and art.
I totally forgot about the straight to VHS/DVD movies that were just awful. They felt so random and out of place 😭
@@floral_hobi At least the straight-to-video stuff was an attempt (a low-effort attempt, but an attempt nonetheless) to create original new stories within the universes of their most beloved '90's and '40's movies, as well as a reason to hang on to talented traditional 2D animators for just a little while longer. These remakes are nothing more than flexes demonstrating how they could deliberately make worse versions of their past successes and somehow make EVEN MORE MONEY than the originals, because they are just that unstoppable now.
@@JeffreyThrash I wouldn't say unstoppable, nobody rules forever for Disney their death will come real soon. They've already been selling off some of the studios they bought in an effort to recoup losses. Not to mention they haven't had a major success in years so a majority of their shareholders will be dipping out soon. The only thing keeping them alive is Hulu and Disney+ but give it time people will be dropping subs soon. Not to mention a lot of their copyrights are due to expire soon and its highly unlikely with the growing hatred of copyright law they'll be able to get them extended. Doesn't help they basically lost the status as the family company with all the the anti-parent attacks like turning red.
Also the fact the 1940 Pinocchio might be one of the scariest and Darkest Disney films...EVER. I'm an adult, Pleasure Island still makes my skin crawl.
what about The Black Cauldron?
SAME! I got chills watching that part of the review! Hahaha!
They really should've used an actual puppet prop for the scenes in which Pinocchio is being handled by someone and the scenes where he's not alive because it's blatantly obvious he was a CGI model the entire time
They literally should
I mean damn! All Pinocchio adaptations that showed Pinocchio in its inanimate state all used props and practical effects, and all of them didn't even have 1/10 of the budget of this shitty version with fake everything, there is simply no excuse.
They even made CGI root beers and had CGI kids at one point on the coach,
@materiagrezza9331
Unless your the Bob Hoskins version which made Pinocchio a real boy from the start
That's the thing! It's a lot easier and more believable, so I don't get why CGI was needed for the scenes where Pinocchio isn't moving on his own. As for the CGI beer mugs that the kids from Pleasure Island have, first thing that comes to my mind was it's better to give them mugs of apple juice or soda inside and add some cream in it, rather than CGI the thing. Idk how that'll taste, though.
You know Disney is collapsing when "FaThEr WhEn CaN i LeAvE tO bE oN mY OW~n I've got da hole worldussy~😩😘🙄💋💅🏼!" has more personality than Disney's entire remake.
At least that Pinocchio movie's fun to laugh at instead of rage-inducing like this crap
“worldussy~” 😭😭😭💀
Yo bro let's go get some WORLDUSSY
@@calamaribowl8683 bet.
The fact that he doesn't even touch on the terrible dialogue and the fact that they made CGI PUPPETS DURING THE REAL PUPPET SCENE is amazing
THEY WHAT
as soon as I heard tom hanks rhyme pinocchio with “holy smoke-io” in that one song i couldn’t take the movie seriously anymore
You look like you're made of pine. We can call you Chris Pine
Wait your telling me they were too cheap to make a pratical wooden puppet so they just cgi it? Thanks thats all i needed to know im forsure not watching this movie even if it is free on disney im not gonna add a view to that garbage
@@christiansantamaria7233 You're*
I hope Del Toro's Pinocchio will be more similar to the original book, at least keeping more dark aspects. In the book Pinocchio is way more of a rebel, literally killing his own conscience. The fox and the cat are way more evil, even hanging Pinocchio at one point to steal his money. The Coachman could be literally any adult that uses kids for their own profit, and the scary thing is that at first he's portraited as a very nice person to children.
These are just a few things that I remember, but there's way more. If you want to read a truly dark story for kids than this is your book.
Heya! You've been cryogenized for almost 3 months and Del Toro's Pinocchio has came out already. Everyone says it massively better than this one. How do you feel about this? 🎤
The phrase “Disney’s _____ is insultingly bad” could be used for nearly everything they produce nowadays. Just insert the current, soulless piece of crap entertainment into that blank space. A blank space is an appropriate visual for modern Disney’s lack creativity and quality. This once great studio is now Disney in name only.
SO true! ;A;
There was a time when Disney was ridiculed for making "cheap-quels" to their hot movies. Are we entering the age of "live action cheap-makes"?
i think we've BEEN in that age for a little while now...
Entering? We've been in that age for a while now. :/
As I understood it, a lot of the animated sequels were used as training grounds for new animator teams.
@@Torchflare And some of them are quite good. Lion King 2 is my favorite Disney movie.
We've been there for a while
The fact that most of them are skiping the teathers and going straight to Disney+ just prove that they are this era equivalent of the straight to video movies.
Theaters? I'm sorry I thought you wrote teachers lmfao
@@idontexist1966 nah he wrote tethers. Because this shit is unbound chaos.
Honestly and I'm kind of glad it's like this so I don't get dragged into the theaters by my family to see some garbage movie not worth seeing.
The Little Mermaid and Snow White remakes will be released in theatres.
@@EpicJoshua314 Disney Princesses are a big brand by itself, Disney relies on them for insta money like MCU
The thing is by the end he DOES actually turn into a real boy, it was that bad that nobody could notice it unless u look at how slowly the more into the dark he goes the human skin appears and the the bendy parts of wood disappear, it looked disgusting 🤢
I like to imagine that after the movie, Pinocchio every time he sees donkeys for sale, he kinda talks to them and tries to see if they are humans or not.
i've had that in mind for ten years and apparently this film's greatest positive contribution to my life is reminding me of that
The best thing to do is just avoid Disney remakes in general, the more you give them money the more remakes they’re gonna pop out.
I don't care what anybody says. All those remakes are bad on the principle of them being just cash grabs, meanwhile, the classics are timeless. That's why they're classics! I don't care about the new song! They only made it to get an award for an original song! I can listen to it on youtube without having to watch 2 hours of a story I already know but done way worse.
Good luck telling the general public to avoid the remakes. You know a lot of people are gonna watch 'em anyway.
They already announced a lion king remake 2 about mufasa, snow white and peter pan, they just won’t stop and they really don’t seem to care what we think, I’m starting to lose all my respect for Disney ;-;
Best thing, in my opinion, is to avoid Disney.
Everything they've been putting out lately is formulaic garbage. The most they do is drum up controversy.
Yeah don't even pirate them, I'm hearing more and more that these companies are starting to even take torrent numbers into account now
People need to stop hatewatching Period or there will never be an end to these things 😭 I haven't seen a single disney live action remake and that's a point of pride for me
I didn’t think they could screw up any harder than Mulan, but Disney seems to have a hard-on for outdoing themselves. Mulan’s still worse, but damn do I hate this film.
Mulan 💀
I disagree with that this is nowhere near as bad as Mulan
@yes I agree
Haha, yeah! It’s unfortunate
@Sabersраrk 🅥 woooow nice try, bot
My great uncle worked on the original animated feature, he was responsible for the scenes with the evil coachmen who takes the boys to pleasure island... he would be appalled by this monstrosity. I know I am. Good review Saber. Love your work.
What did he do?
SO IT WAS YOUR GREAT UNCLE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVIL FACE!!!! I'm So Angry Now That I Know Who Animated The Coachman.
I actually watched the original for the first time yesterday and I agree, it is such a beautiful film. It surprisingly has some dark moments for a kids movie, but it has so much heart to it. It’s about a naive young boy learning to be good with help from his friend and conscience. Also the use of music in this film to describe certain plot points is amazing! The story is a little jumbled, but this is definitely up on the list of my favorite classic Disney films
That was back when PG actually meant something.
Disney was always slightly dark, though not as dark as the tales they based their stories on.
The original film legit gives me anxiety. The whole middle act just has this constant dread of knowing Pinocchio is hanging around a bad crowd he shouldn't be hanging around with. This is going to sound pretentious but I think it plays into a fear all of us have felt at some point growing up-- the first time we stayed up past our bedtime, the first time we stayed out after dark, and especially: the first time we hung out with some bad kids our parents wouldn't want us hanging out with. Stranger danger. Kids smoking and drinking. Stuff that just sets off our deep-seated alarm bells from what our parents told us growing up.
The anxious tension builds for so long it's almost a relief when the other shoe drops and Pinocchio finally faces the consequences of his actions: getting kidnapped the first time and almost turning into a donkey the second.
I was just mad that they didn’t smoke fat blunts like they did in the original
I guess Pinocchio wasn’t aloud to go to the gas station to by some 😔😔😔
Hi Haminations!
yo nice seeing you here 😄
let 👏 Pinocchio 👏 say 👏 jackass
I had the same reaction when I learned that Dumbo is not going to get drunk in the 2019 remake. And I didn't expect you to show up, Haminations.
They dropped so much "controversial" or "scary" material that was relevant to the lessons to be learned from the story, then made Pinocchio's CGI even scarier and more controversial
One of my favorite "play it safe" changes was one of the clocks depicting a mother spanking a child in the original film was changed to a police officer stopping the mother from spanking. I hate modern Disney.
@@benchattin I've always seen Disney as obnoxiously-tame compared to the Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network shows I used to watch at the time (Bugs Bunny > Mickey Mouse, imo), and especially after growing old enough to watch anime, but that sounds ridiculous even by Disney standards.
I wouldn't be surprised if depicting that police officer in a positive light was supposed to be some subtle (and vain) attempt to reassure the "anti-woke" crowd. Like they're saying "hey, maybe making the Blue Fairy a bald black woman and overall toning down everything from the 1940 animated movie is admittedly pandering to the left, but we pander to the right sometimes, too! Blue Lives Matter, see? Wait, where are you going?! Come back and give us your money! Wait, why are all the California liberals leaving, too?! What happened to our vast majority of fans who just watch our stuff as an escape from politics in general? Hello...?"
@Lex Bright Raven Yeah, as someone who tends to skew left myself, I'm not fooled in the least by Disney's attempts at "representation," especially when they are also quick to throw those same gay actors and/or black actors under the bus once they inevitably get complaints from the right and especially China--the woman who played one of the Sith Lords or whatever in the Obi-Wan show is perhaps the latest victim of Disney's moral hypocrisy, plus practically every recent Disney Channel series like The Owl House and the DuckTales reboot that skew towards older tweens/teens and are too genuinely "progressive" for Disney as a result (even if that's exactly why they're popular, but sadly Disney decides to listen specifically to the haters who have no interest in actually watching these shows over the actual target demographic).
Nonetheless, I've spent enough time with guys who give off serious "incel/sigma male" energy to know that the right does see the mere act of hiring gay actors, writing black characters, or even writing non-submissive female characters as "leftist" these days. Unfortunately, rather than recognize that these people are an oversensitive "vocal minority" who would probably not be interested in a notoriously-tame company like Disney and ignore them--or better yet, draw attention to the hypocrisy of the "anti-woke" crowd constantly getting triggered these days at seeing fictional characters that don't look or think exactly like them--companies seem to be taking from modern CNN's playbook and bending over backwards in the vain hopes of re-gaining extremists who really can't handle even the most minor societal shifts from the last 50 years. Thus we occasionally get stuff that actually panders to the right like portraying the police as "always good."
@our hero What, a good Pinocchio remake?
@our hero what, your mom?
Also worth mentioning is how they have less of Pinnochio’s trait of being mischievous and lacking morale at the beginning. Like at first he actually finds Honest John sketchy, but goes with him because when he goes to school, they deny him entry because they don’t allow living puppets. So it’s like he had less of a choice, instead of was tricked by Honest John.
The best thing about these live action remakes is that they make us look back on all these classic animated movies and see why they all work so well.
The way you talked about the pleasure island scene really made me realize something: before, puritanism was about moral tales and telling children that this stuff was bad. Now puritanism is not even acknowledging the thing exists. It has become a taboo.
True faith is acknowledging that the world is sinful and living as close as possible to one's ideals
Cowardice is hiding among like-minded peers and never challenging onself
Christians be what christians do , they consolidate power and thus things they deem demonic or unfaithful gets removed
@@davidhong1934 facts
Bruh it’s not there because it would get Disney into legal trouble that didn’t apply when the original film was made. Not that deep.
@@Ratty524 I'm not sure that's accurate... Pinnochio came out in 1940 right in the middle of the Hays code, some of the most puritanical and strict movie censorship laws that have ever existed. it was considered okay as long as characters were punished for their actions. On the other side I don't think there are any laws currently prohibiting showing minors smoking in modern films as long as the content is appropriately age restricted. I've seen some modern netflix films/tv shows with minors smoking, I believe leon 1994 has the main actress smoking. (Though I could be misremembering) Most likely they just axed it to avoid a higher age rating to get the widest audience possible.
The donkey transformation from the original Pinocchio hands down belongs on a top 10 most disturbing scenes in a Disney animation. A good chunk of that praise goes to the voice actor selling the moment, but being 2D also allows more control over all other aspects in a scene to accentuate the tone. The real horror of the situation flew over my head as a child, but as an adult, it makes my blood run cold.
The Coachman was evil as hell.
The most horrifying part, Lampwick's last words as a human is him calling for his mother.
Another detail, is he still calling for her, but all that comes out is the braying?
Dude, that scene scarred me as a kid lol. Even now watching the tiny clip in Saber’s video made all that horror flood back.
That scene terrified and depressed me then and it still does. It's like that scene in 'American Werewolf in London' were you see the entire transformation.
@@Mx_Phoenix Same, even as an adult the scene is chilling.
Honestly, honest John is like the best character IMO. They didn't try to pull "He is a fox so he expresses only fox level emotions." like they did with the lion king lions (Which couldn't even reach levels of normal lion emotions.)
I'm glad that someone else agreed with the fact how awful it was. By the way, is it even creepier that Geppetto making Pinocchio because his son died as a young child, his wife left him and in order to get his wife to come back, he made Pinocchio to look like their dead child? I pointed this out to everyone who watched it with me and its totally worse then the original. For real this is what the movie did to the story.
Honest John really bothered me, he spoke with his teeth and he has human hands. :/ I hate it.
Ikr
What I disliked the most was how they turned an already toned down Pinocchio into an almost flawless one. In the 1940 movie he wasn't the jerk he was in the original novel but at least he was naive enough to frequently end up in troubles.
he wasn’t that bad in the original novel tho. he gets really good character development and always learns from his mistakes. that’s my opinion at least, but there is a lot of good things he does in that novel that everyone ignores.
@@ellarose7114 thats true. I don't know why today Disney seems to forgetting the art of creating character and several times creating mary sues
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 It started in 1964.
@@ellarose7114 Glad I’m not the only one who notices that..I didn’t find Disney’s Pinocchio annoying, he was cute and okay but I think the original Pinocchio had good character development and is underrated. (and not just the character, but the book in general is underrated)
The Coachmaster's "business plan" in the original was an allegory for getting "Shanghai'd", where young idiots would be invited to parties in port towns with booze and opium, then when they black out, waking up on a ship and given a choice of working aboard the ship, essentially as a slave to repay the cost of the partying, or be thrown overboard.
Also game theory channel calculated it and apparently it would be a MASSIVE profit, cause donkeys were just that expensive in that age.
Not to mention he's implied to basically be demonic, what with the devil horn hair and the fact that he turns kids into donkeys by their engagement in hedonism.
And you get a lifetime of work out of the donkey. It's ambiguous if the kids turned into donkeys would still have human lifespans or donkeys, however
Seems more like child trafficking.
@@wildfire9280 That's a more blunt analog, but all of Pinocchio's adventures have a moral for him, in this case "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" and the literal punishment of being forced to pay for one night of "making a jackass out of himself" with a lifetime of servitude.
Did anyone else notice they never once established that Pinnochio’s nose grows from lying? He just knows to do it in order to get out of Strombolli’s cage.
I love when Pinocchio suddenly turns into a boat motor
thats actually in the book as well
Disney is playing the short-term game with these god-awful remakes and I hope to see these bad decisions bite them in the butt at some point
Same here. I stopped supporting Disney as a company long ago, because of this.
Cause it's apparently too damn hard for them to put any effort into their movies anymore.
The one called "Jeffrey Epstein" already has that covered, as you'll find out soon....
It happened to the dvd sequels
Disney is a sinking ship right now. You might not know it, but there's a hole already in the bottom of the deck.
@@LazyPirate8 You’re reaching extremely far 😂
i wonder when disney will be able to accept that their animated movies don't need to be remade
Ooooohooooooo they all KNOW they don't need to be remade, it's just for the big $$$$
Sadly, I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon. :(
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_live-action_adaptations_and_remakes_of_Disney_animated_films#Upcoming
They'll stop beating the dead horse when it stops spitting out money.
When we finally stop supporting Disney
Can't say no to sheep ginving you millions for cheap trash
The OG scene where that kid turns into a donkey was one of my childhood trauma memories with a movie that wasn't supposed to be horror
Nobody saw the Disney's version of Pinocchio in Mexico, but the del Toro's version was a hit, even when the comercial cinemas suddenly cancelled the exhibitions. I saw it in Cineteca Nacional, the movie theatre was full.
I cringed at them just throwing in modern references like “influencer” randomly in there, but the weirdest thing is that they hd the perfect opportunity to start from scratch and do something interesting. They could’ve driven in the message about the damage tiktok/youtube culture has on young kids in the same way that “theatre” showmanship was in the 40s, or done a more coherent plot rather than sticking adamantly to the original that was trying to make a film out of a loose storybook
I was going to say Papa Disney wouldn't approve of that lest it be interpreted as a commentary on how they've mistreated their own child actors... but then I remembered that they literally already made a movie that did that with _Bolt._ Do yeah, no excuse really.
@@stevethepocket As much as Walt was a capitalist and anti-union, he was way more a creator. It was more important to him that he made good art. Like Fantasia. He wanted to experiment with making "high art" more accessible to people. At the time, Fantasia was a flop commercially, but it's been an inspiration for many. That's the kind of thing Walt would have wanted, not lazy cash grabs. He'd hate these "remakes."
It really is a form of historical revisionism when all these old era videos are remade with modern era references/values
If they're gonna say influencer, why don't they actually show what that job might be like in that time period????
No more lessons, just money and "You are racist"
Pinnochio turned from a flawed protagonist to a flawless beam and that’s the movies problem
Well at least he's likable
It rendered Jiminy Cricket completely useless: For no reason.
And gepetto voice is okay at least
@Sabersраrk 🅥 Piss off, faker. And take your other spam accounts with you.
I'd love to see him as nasty as the book version.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed but there is a scene in the movie where jiminy cricket kicks off his shoes and the animation phases one shoe out making it disappear. It’s something so obvious that I feel like simply rewatching the film was something they didn’t feel like doing before release.
The insane thing re: scrubbing this movie clean of Pinocchio doing anything bad or morally questionable is that him making poor choices and THEN suffering the consequences of those choices is literally the point of the story. He doesn’t lie to Jiminy for the sake of it, he lies to THE BLUE FAIRY to avoid any accountability when asking her for help.
Well other than him sniffing horseshit, but personally I think that scene pretty much encapsulates what is wrong with it! Underage drinking & smoking is a no-no, but sniffing a pile of shit, that's A-OK! Cue the Nostalgia Critic's "A FAMILY PICTURE"!
I think the reason 3D animated stuff looks so much worse in movies like this is because we notice the contrast between IRL objects and animated ones. Other times seem to get tunnel vision on making things realistic to the point of sacrificing expressiveness and style.
@im calling saul Go away, bot.
The real reason is the poor overworked and underpaid VFX department people somehow crunching these movies out under Disney's iron fist.
You can feel the stress from the crunch time in every frame, the shakiness and unsteadiness and nearly ametrue look. It's made of blood, sweat, and tears and _NOT_ in the good way. It's painful to watch knowing the pain that goes into these dumpsterfire late stage capitalism cashgrabs.
@im calling saul this is probably the best bot I've seen in a while lol
@@pyraffin Marvel got outed recently as being one of the most offensively-bad workplaces for VFX employees by former employees and Cartoon Brew. And of course MPC is the one that has long set the standard for abusing all VFX employees and a studio that Disney and Hollywood in general frequently rely on despite (or possibly even because of...?) their increasingly-public reputation as slave-drivers. I am very inclined to believe you.
@@pyraffin That too, but I would say the two work together. The VFX people could make some really awesome stuff if they used an easier but still better-looking style for their animated parts, but they likely don't have the authority to make that decision. In addition, on a time crunch they may not have enough time to redo work when they realize things aren't working.
Disney's obsession with attempting to recapture the magic of their animated movies is hilarious.
Right? I mean…isn’t the whole point of your brand that your animation and art are irreplaceable and completely totally
Unique? Why the fuck then are you trying so hard to replace it?! The mind boggles. I don’t understand. It’s so clear that a businessman is running Disney and not an artist. Disney should belong to an artist, because at least then this megalith of a corporation could make some good and not….this.
You actin like they tryna recapture the magic, fool, they tryna recapture yo wallet
@@TheLastHylianTitan id argue a businessman isnt making these either, because a businessman would recognise the brand damage these "remakes" are doing
Attempting nothing. The only reason these live-action remakes exist is because Iger HATED the original versions, calling them embarrassments.
Yeah, no, they're not trying to recapture the magic, they're just trying to cash-grab. It's pure laziness.
about half way through the movie i was actually hoping they’d divert from the plot of the animated movie and actually send geppetto to pleasure island to maybe learn more about his son (as it’s hinted that that is how he ‘died’). it might have given hanks a little more to do, flesh out more of the story there with the donkeys, and the coachman and those spirit things, then geppetto and pinocchio could escape together by boat to then get swallowed. but no, we had to watch them shout across the ocean to each other for way too long..
It feels like to me that every time Disney attempts to recreate the exact same feelings and experiences as the original movie (and oh boy they try), they completely forget what made the originals in the first place. The original 1940 movie isn't really an adventure where Pinnochio is just a victim of a world that hates him; it's a morality tale about how giving into your vices and impulses robs you of your humanity and how you can still be a good person no matter how many mistakes you have made in the past. We root for Pinnochio because of his flaws, as we all have been naive, impulsive, etc. but we still strive to be better than we were. I don't understand why they're so keen on remaking a morality tale but yet they're so afraid of presenting a movie with a main character who's problematic, especially considering the popularity of media that features unlikable main characters like Breaking Bad or Bojack Horseman.
The donkey scene in the original still terrifies me to this day and I don't even scare easily. Easily one of the most horrifying scenes in children's animation history. And out of morbid curiosity I had to look up the scene from this version and.. Man did they miss the mark. To the point I decided to pass up even watching this version of the movie. The original was meant to frighten children into behaving themselves and the message was well portrayed and it stuck with many as a result. "Don't act like a jackass or you'll turn into one." As you said that scene is iconic and traumatized many of us. And if they couldn't even get that big scene right then why bother with the rest of it?
"You'll return home... as MEN"
The Adventures of Pinocchio from 1996 managed to make that scene look even freakier with it's dated cgi
Im like 99% sure donkey from shrek was one of those kids
I think the most uncanny thing about this new Pinocchio is his painted-on eyes. In 2D, you could get away with paint magically becoming eyes, but in 3D they're dead and soulless and horrifying.
He looks like a Sonichu with his eyes like that
@@PyckledNyk Pinocchio is about to zap to the extreme!
Oh yeah, the real pinocchio is really harsh. I read it recently and from what I can remember the biggests chocks are: Pinocchio killing the criquet really early in the book, Pinocchio gets Gepeto arrested since he keeps wasting Gepeto's money, he is tricked by the fox and cat who try to kill him and he bites off the cat's hand, the cat and fox HANG HIM TO A TREE where he slowly suffocates but the blue fairy gives up most of her life to save him, He is not only turned into a donkey but is also whipped by his owner and is then throw off a cliff with rocks tied to him, he again gets the blue fairy to give up life force to retransform him and finally, he finds his dad in the whale and whom has lost all hope and considers using him as wood for the fire or let himself die. Also, I think the fairy died at some point but still manages to manifest herself thru Gepeto's love and turn Pinocchio into a human. And that's without talking about all the gaslight from both sides.
Me and my wife went to the beach this past weekend and during nights we would watch this Pinocchio remake. It took us like 3 nights to get through it. After we finished watching it we inmediatly played the original one and got hooked from the start and finished it in one sitting. I think the problem with this one is that it lacks soul. Also, Disney is what it is today because it is an animation powerhouse and this movie doesn't serve any justice to the original one. In the original, the attention to details is still impressive today, the music and the animation is superve. I think you can get more quality in a highschool play that in this movie to be completely honest.
It's sad how Disney took a wonderful animated classic like Pinocchio and turned it into another piece of corporate cynicism.
They’ve basically turned all of the animated classics into pieces of corporate cynicism (except The Jungle Book, because that was actually pretty good)
For example, I watched Beauty and the Beast (1991) a couple days ago; there’s lots of moments that are exciting for kids like the humor, the music, and the bright visuals. But there’s also a lot of features in that movie that you can truly appreciate and enjoy as an adult like the story, humor, the deep internal struggle of the the Beast, and how his relationship with Belle builds up. Bottom line, it’s a masterpiece, and it literally got an Oscar nomination for Best Picture!
But then there’s the live action one; it’s just such a downgrade. All of that soul and energy is ripped away, it feels more monotone, some of the characters look stupid (especially the Beast’s servants, and the Beast doesn’t even look like a monster, he looks like a generic hairy man lol), and the inner conflicts aren’t presented as well. It’s so mediocre to the point where it’s painful…
Yes it is sad I agree
What do you mean by corporate cynicism? That's an interesting term.
My biggest issue with this movie is that it's message is completely contradictory to the original Disney masterpiece that the film constantly insists on being compared to. The entire point of the 1940 classic is that WE AREN'T perfect just the way we are. Nobody is. Not a single person on this entire planet. Yet, throughout our fleeting, mortal lives, we still continue to look up and aspire to become more...to be better...to achieve the dreams of the highest personal good we can possibly be. Really powerful stuff...there's a reason why it's regarded as one of the greatest films ever made.
This movie represents none of that. It wants to wear the prestige of the original like a coat, yet complete defy the original's entire reason for being. Pinocchio is never at fault for anything in this remake. Everything happens TO him, not BECAUSE of him. He's established as helpless and blameless in every situation. He never does anything bad. And even when his actions are relatively questionable, the movie reassures us that it's okay and not a personal flaw at all...Even his lies are portrayed as a positive self attribute; getting him out of trouble in a moment of peril...It follows in the shallow footsteps of other recent Disney films like the live-action Mulan movie and Captian Marvel. The film doesn't understand that stories aren't relatable if the protagonist has become/is born righteous beyond his or her own need for personal growth...
Disney has completely forgotten how to do The Hero's Journey or any form of character arch when telling a story. They place the protagonist from the end of the story, who has overcome obstacles and changed as a person, at the beginning. So any potential obstacle is easily overcome. The audience is not able to relate to such characters nor become invested in their story.
you sure thats what they were saying? I mean, the song literally says "anything your heart desires will come to you". he literally wishes on a star for his puppet to be a real boy and it does.
@our hero ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html this is better
Same thing with the message in Aladdin, they completely got that backward too, it hurt to watch.
I'm sure some people are gonna give me flak for saying this, but one of my biggest criticisms of the modern "Social Justice" movement is how heavily it encourages this exact "I'm perfect the way I am, and everything bad in my life is always someone else's fault" mindset that you described here.
Never forget Disney’s ACTUAL live-action Pinocchio remake they did back in 2000 called, Geppetto, which starred Drew Carey in the title role and the story is told from his perspective. Also, the Jonathan Taylor Thomas!Pinocchio movie needs to be talked about more.
I can imagine Disney making a live action ver. of The Hunchback of Notre Dame with no talking gargoyle statues, just like the live action adaption of Mulan without Mushu. Well that goes to show how Disney is sucking away the magic with their live action adaptions.
I didn’t know Coke and Pepsi were bad…
But in all seriousness, children are fully aware of alcohol, and some families even tell their kids about it early so they can avoid it. The CGI in this may look great, but that’s their disguise so they can keep making these soulless traps.
Edit: Also, they had Lampwick say the word “jackass” in this movie. So… Are you gonna add inappropriate stuff for moral reasons or not, Disney?
Probably stuck it in there just to avoid being rated G. Studios are *terrified* of their films being rated G for some reason. More NC-17 films come out than G films in recent years.
@@LendriMujina wait why tho
@@somethingwithbungalows There's this fallacious view people have that something suitable for kids is *only* suitable for kids. Bumping the rating up means teens and adults are less likely to be turned away.
@@joshroehl6098 I think they kept Lampwick’s jacksss line because he was using it in the literal sense, whereas the other times it was mentioned in the original were used in the figurative sense
@@LendriMujina I have noticed that hardly any G movies get released anymore
Fun fact: While Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is widely considered to be the first fully animated movie, that's actually not the case. Snow White was released in 1937, whereas an animated German film by the name of "The Adventures of Prince Achmed" was released in 1926 (later 1931 in the US). But unfortunately, due to the Magic Kingdom, no one remembers Achmed.
There were also apparently at least 2 animated films from Argentina that were released before Snow White, but they've unfortunately been lost to time.
Yeah the Argentinian one was called el alpostal. To me it's sad that such an important piece of animation has been lost and is very unlikely to be ever seen again.
Prince Achmed the tiger fucker will ALWAYS be remembered
Oh yeah, he was that guy who fucked a tiger, right?
Directed, written and animated by Lotte Reiniger. Saw it in college and it was amazing what she could do.
Hey was about to mention this neat to see someone else knew
Thank you for mentioning the lighting. I thought I was insane. I kept wondering why Pinochio's model looked over-lit. Such a bizarre choice.
Every Bloody time Disney Corp does a live action remake, I ignore it and watch the original, with one exception, Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland was quite competent and I love how independent and tough they made Alice.
Yeah like, at the very least that movie was GOING for something different. It wasn't trying to be the original animated version Disney made ages ago, it was trying to be it's own thing. Hell, as a kid I preferred the newer Alice rather than the animated classic. They made the world wonderfully terrifying and thrilling, and the beast thing Alice befriends is so cool I wanted it for myself. The way it ended also felt a lot more satisfying than the original. Disney needs to look back at THAT film as an example of how to make a powerful female lead, instead of doing what they did with Mulan in the Mulan remake. That shit was VILE and robbed any good character quality cause sHe HaS mAgIc PoWeRs NoW
Can we talk about them giving Geppeto a *dead wife and son* in this movie? making his motivations for wanting Pinocchio to be a "real boi" just that much creepier to me, for some reason.
The scene where he's walking around with Pinocchio just creeped me out, man. Like a damn horror movie.
Interestingly, based on the trailers, Guillermo Del Toro's version seems to be going with that idea as well. Let's hope it works better in that version.
Bah, Disney would have killed off Geppeto too if they could. Parents and mentors in Disney movies rarely lives long....
pretty sure that was in the original story?
not the disney one but like... the real story.
@@SasquaDash from what iv heard of his works is that his trailers seem lighthearted but his movies are way darker. And considering he's basing his movie of the already dark original book, his story is prob a darker retelling of pinocchio which makes sense
It’s kinda similar to “Astro Boy.” The main character is created as a robot after the father’s real son is killed in car accident.
It bugs me most of all that Pinocchio is pretty much opposed to pleasure island the whole time. The original he really indulged. It was in an awkward following other's way, but he still indulged.
Jesus Christ why are there so much bots recently
Damn, the bots have Queen Elizabeth now 💀💀💀
*THIS!* I didn’t mind the changes they made to Pleasure Island’s activities too much, but it doesn’t make sense that Pinocchio transformed at all because he barely indulged in any of the activities aside from playing pool and drinking a single sip of root beer.
It’s also contradictory since the remake changed Pleausre Island to a story about not giving into peer pressure, so it would’ve made more sense for Pinocchio to indulge in the fun since he was pressured by Lampwick, the Coachman, & all the other kids.
@@PeruvianPotato There's so many bots because UA-cam can't (read: won't) do it's job.
Why are people liking these bot comments? Are they making other bots to like them?
Can we also mention that the Blue Fairy magic shot first at the picture of his son then at Pinocchio? Is that supposed to imply that they brought his son back from the dead into the body of a wooden boy?
Pinocchio is a puppet, you're telling me Disney couldn't create an animatronic puppet, everything absolutely HAD to be CGI? Pathetic, honestly.
And the fact the Little Mermaid trailer came out SO soon after this is Not reassuring. I swear Disney is just pumping these out now because they can. I can't believe they thought making this was ok 😔
I don't care what anybody says. All those remakes are bad on the principle of them being just cash grabs, meanwhile, the classics are timeless. That's why they're classics! I don't care about the new song! They only made it to get an award for an original song! I can listen to it on youtube without having to watch 2 hours of a story I already know but done way worse.
There’s been somewhat of a “conspiracy” going around that Disney is only making these remakes in order to avoid the original movies going into public domain. Which makes sense, but at the same time it’s extremely scummy.
Well I don't have an issue with the Little mermaid I want to wait until I do see the final movie before I make my final judgment
I just love the meme reactions in the comments where they have Ariel or any other character quote lines or reenact scenes from different movies.
@@GrafVonTirol me too
I walked by my father watching this movie,
Towards the end when they had escaped the "whale".
I recall Pinocchio was found unconscious on the beach in the original movie.
And for him to wake up, he had to be turned into a real boy.
In this movie when they found Geppetto unconscious on the beach, rather than Pinocchio.
I told my father "Oh, are they gonna turn Geppetto into a real father, to wake him up?"
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Haha
The best live action Pinocchio is the one from 1996 and I never hear about it. It's a bit creepy, but really well done for its time. It's one of my childhood favorites.
Not sure if the one you're talking about was the one I was thinking about. But it was creepy, yet very well done.
(Also I didn't read your comment fully. So reading your opinion on how creepy yet well done the movie is done is straight up taking words right out of my mouth. Kinda creepy.)
The only few parts I remember was where his donkey ears are actually wooden and have been broken off when he was trying to escape from the grasp of one guys hands. Another part I remember was when Pinocchio pourpously lies to gapeto (can't spell his name) on how he never loved him. That way the nose will grow and open up the throat of monstro so they can escape. Also his nose broke off too.
I watched another review about Pinocchio and the issues they point out is with Pinocchio himself, in the original, Pinocchio was a mischievous child, he would do bad things, because kids would do that and when he was on Pleasure Island, he had no issue with acting like a bad kid with destroying property, drinking beer and smoking cigars. It actually made Jiminy’s role important as Pinocchio’s conscience, because he would set him on the right path and Pinocchio being turned partially into a donkey earned, because he was actually misbehaving.
In the remake, Pinocchio’s character is really naive, he goes with whatever a character is saying without a second thought and is easily misled, however, he’s still a good boy and doesn’t do anything wrong, even on Pleasure Island he was still acting like a good boy and wasn’t acting terribly naughty as in the original, he was easily turned off and upset about all the stuff the kids were doing. He even calls Lampwick out for cheating and it makes him being turned into a donkey an unearned thing, because he was being punished for being good. Jiminy’s role was also redundant, because Pinocchio wasn’t a bad child and he would do whatever Jiminy would say without a second thought.
Also the Blue Fairy’s reduced role to one scene was dumb as she had more appearances in the original and she was a motherly guidance to Pinocchio that would also help set him on the right path.
They’ve done the weird Disney inspired theme park thing before. In the Dumbo remake, the evil corporate theme park/circus felt very Disney, too, which is so weird considering it’s meant to symbolize a heartless corporation. I’m not saying it’s in accurate, just that it’s strange that Disney would ever design the “evil, bad” theme park after their own.
prob tone deaf as heck
Disney is just admitting to what they are. They’ve become one of the most evil companies on earth.
Never forget what they pulled with _Mulan 2020._
disney is not capable of recognizing its own evil. it doesn’t recognize that the evil theme park is based off of disney.
i’m not saying the people there don’t get it, but the company is forced through the power of capitalism to never recognize its own flaws or hubris.
A reminder that Guillermo del Toro is making their own version of Pinocchio, and that one looks a lot more promising!
And the Mary Poppins movie
I'm just so confused as how you can mess up a story that you've not only already done, but also exists as a book you can just read and put into a movie. It's like failing an open book test.
Dude GOJIRA woooo!
Probably because current Disney is so crappy and creatively bankrupt they can't even take something they've already made good. It came from an era when Disney was force to be reckoned with not a farce to be laughed at.
@@lethalslaughterband5498 Oh HELL yeah, Gojira all the way.
@@Blotzwave nice
Why didn't they just put a baby in a green morph suit for the tracking and weight issue 💀like they used a green ball in Garfield to make sure eyes were in the right place and that was great
“Pinocchio” is a really good book. Not just for kids, but enjoyably dark for adults. It’s also a quick read, with fabulous illustrations, but I also like the modern Gris Grimly illustrations. I read it nearly in one sitting when I was 22.
It's the perfect movie to highlight the issues with the Disney remake retcons.
Pinocchio is a defining property for the Disney brand. It's few people's favorite, but is still a key piece of many people's nostalgia. It's iconic moment after iconic moment and for all it's flaws as a movie, it succeeds as a property in so many people's collective memory.
And it's a property Disney would never have tried today.
It's road trip story with no one villain, drinking, smoking, child slavery and illogical plot development. It takes itself seriously every step of the way with little bathos between some very dark themes and it just doesn't have any of the story beats that Disney requires from an IP. It's Disney's own anti-disney film and shows how the biggest problem with Disney today is it's refusal to believe in its own stories. Disney is so risk averse, so tongue in cheek about itself and so self important that Pinocchio, a company defining property, just doesn't work as a Disney IP today.
It’s my favorite
Jiminy Cricket was even one of the main Disney mascots for a while!
Pinocchio is arguably the most natural and realistic film imo, besides The Lion King
I think Pinocchio was a bit of a failure at the time it was made? Though a large success now due to re-releases and such.
@@WeebishSwed it had a buget of 2.6million and made back at the time 1.8 milion possibly because the european market shuted down
Seriously we’re starting to see a point that Disney is ruining the remakes more than improving of classic films.
The only one that felt like a genuine remake was The Jungle Book. I swear if they let Jon Favreau have creative control for Mufasa and possibly a Brother Bear remake it could bank big
@@Orcaluv26 I also liked Mary Poppins and the Winnie the Pooh films enough.
Other than those three the remakes were the originals except worse storytelling and artistic wise.
@@kaiser8659 exactly, also wasn’t Mary poppins a sort of sequel?
Modern Walt Disney expectations: Creating original animated and live-action stories, making new animation art styles for both 2D and 3D and exploring interesting concepts.
Modern Walt Disney reality: Making pointless and soulless live-action remakes without knowing what made the originals great and destroying franchises like Star Wars.
Old Disney >>>> New Disney.
Hi Saberspark. Today on my Facebook feed, I saw that Disney is in the process of making a "live action" Bambi film.
Also on the "live action" list are:
Tangled
Lilo & Stitch
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
Has the Disney creative team just gotten lazy?
I love how Disney seemingly put more effort in the furred side characters than pinocchio
It's easier to hide animation flaws when the model is covered in fur. But they most likely had a different team working on Pinocchio's model than the furred characters, which is why there's a massive disconnect of styles
@@McNaBir combine that with Disney's experience in fur animation over the last couple of years and you have a big gap. Still sad the overall end product was and though :/
@@sirmrmcjack2167 seriously. You'd think they'd also take pointers from Pixar and actually make decent water physics too. All of the water in the movie legitimately looks like lube 😭🙏
@@McNaBir eww, reminds of that thick water for people with swallowing problems. I kid you not, that's an actual thing. I tried it once and not only does it taste awful, it also is almost chewable. It's thick enough that you can't drink it normally but also liquid enough that it's just about not chewable
@@sirmrmcjack2167 Never heard of that stuff and while it sounds disgusting to us that sounds amazing for the people it is intended for, science is bloody amazing nowadays!
I understand that when Saber agreed to the Helix sleep sponsorship, he recorded a bunch of footage during the receiving/unboxing/setup process so that he can splice them together in various sequences during the sponsored segments of future videos, but I also like to imagine that every time they sponsor him they send him a new one and he has to record himself acting excited all over again every time while having a side room full of mattresses
I love this
Saber just having a "princess and the pea" stack of Heilex mattresses is the funniest image! 🤣
I thought he was. I could have sworn he opened the mattresses in different rooms because there's no way you could seal it again yourself.
You just made this sponsorship 10 times funnier for me, I will never be able to watch these ads again without laughing my ass off! XD
He's addicted
Hey Saber! Throwing this suggestion out there: maybe you could make a video on the series Grossology? I think it was aired on Jetix back in the middle 2000s. It was very, VERY weird. I remember this episode where the villain got bullied by his old brother and his friends, who basically FARTED on him and his face constantly, and...yeah, that was his villain background story? And he became addicted to smelling farts? And he would move on this tiny little floating ship that emanated FARTS on his face. Like...what?!
The whole show felt like a fever dream. 💀
I remember Grossology! Another villain is all about insects, and one is all about... mucus, I think? If I recall, the fart villain was kind of a Mr. Freeze parody where the constant fart-bullying changed his physiology to where he could only breathe methane. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember. I also recall the animation looking a lot like 6teen's,
My favorite episode was the one where the duo had to fight giant Hagfish. The designs of the hagfish were cool.
@@xFlareLeon Yes! You just unlocked a bunch of childhood memories for me. Lol!
Why didn't they have Pinocchio Vape and drink white claws? It could have been a nice modern update and you can still have the No No message 😆
I want to see this without the special effects, where Tom Hanks is in a green room, talking to tennis balls like a lunatic. Seriously, I don't think any human actor physically acted with another human actor. When you see groups of people, it looks like each person was filmed by themselves and placed on a different layer of the final product
Look up behind-the-scenes material from the Star Wars prequels. It’s just people standing in empty green rooms
this is ironicly how i 3d render alot of stuff because i barely can render a full scene
@@NoahGooder except you most likely put love into your work, Disney doesn't lmao
@@47ratsinahoodie true i will admit i have put sleep deprivation, blood ( due to paper cuts), and tears ( staring at the screen for huge amounts of time without blinking irritation), and even sweat from fustration into my work.
It would be extra funny if Tom wore one of those grey bodysuits with checkered markers and then the animators overlaid a CGI costume over him, like what has been done for Ironman.
the reason pinocchio is so popular this year is because it just entered the public domain
wasn't it already in the public domain?? I swear I've seen so many Pinocchio movies that weren't made by Disney from the 80s and 90s
4:55 - The Incredibles
remembering that each and every cel of animation in those old films was painted BY HAND is astounding. Watch Snow White, specifically the clean up song, and watch the water tub that they're cleaning themselves in. Like, the attention to detail in the water reflections is mind blowing. I don't know why they feel the need to take the heart out of these old films by reanimating them in a new way that is arguably far lazier. Yes, disney animators are STILL amazing at what they do and they are still groundbreaking with a lot of what they put out.. but not in these remakes which are wholly unnecessary
Also:: the pinocchio animated movie was a bit of a hodge podge yes, but I've read the book, and to be fair.. thats very loyal to the book LOL its literally random event after random event with very little tying it together
Still Soviet Snow White was better
they feel the need to remake them to both hold onto the IP and make money while doing as little as possible. Live action is also cheaper than animation even with all that CGI.
That’s why I miss hand drawn animation a lot.. It could be so much better today too with the technology at our hands. I mean some of the hand drawn animated films that have come out of Japan recently are proof, they look astounding..
I really wish Disney wouldn’t be afraid to go back to hand drawn animation for full length movies again.. it’s all 3D or live action now and it’s getting kinda tiresome..
@@JosephCoxH Seeing as how a lot of the remakes have been based on the 90s movies, this was never about holding onto copyrights, which last much longer. This is Disney trying to milk nostalgia, no more and no less.
The string that ties every event in the book is that Pinocchio learns his lesson from something he thinks it's right or he can get away with it, only to pay the consequences, and then carry on to another event where he makes another choice, and so on, until he develops his own sense of morality.
I only recently found this out myself, but the original scene where the redheaded kid turns into a donkey is why I am so scared of smoking and alcohol. I won't even clink my glass with other peoples glasses if there glass is alcoholic even in the slightest. I don't even like being around people who are smoking or vaping- that scene scarred me as a kid and I mean- I don't care, better for my organs, but the "THIS IS BAD, BAD STUFF HAPPENS IF YOU DO THIS" message is loud and really clear.
I'm a grown man who watches brutal TV shows such as FX's The Shield, and the donkey scene from the original Disney Pinocchio still gave me chills.
I think it's the same for me. Good. It's better this way.
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DARE actually worked on me, that's why I don't drink or smoke, lol. But I also have always recited a similar mantra to that of what my mom would say whenever I and my siblings went into a store with her when we were kids. Hers was, "You don't want nothin, you don't need nothin, so don't ask." Mine with smoking and drinking is, "I don't want it, I don't need it, I'm good."
Also, being physically assualted by your older brother's drunk girlfriend when you're 12 does wonders for being very uninterested in those things :)
Yea same here and still scared of that fat bastard/the guy that turned the kids into donkeys otherwise known as Coachman
Fun fact this woke Pinocchio reboot was directed by Robert Zemeckis the same guy who directed beloved classics like Who Frames Roger Rabbit, Back to the Future, Death Becomes Her, Forrest Gump, and one of his last good movies he had directed to date was Castaway! And he has never made a good movie ever since. Polar Express was the beginning of the Bob’s Downward Spiral of his career.
He went from Who framed Roger Rabbit, Back to the future, and Forrest Gump to Welcome to Marwen, The Polar Express, and This Hideous Disappointment of Lazy Atrocities!!
I love how this is supposed to be a "live-action" remake/reimagining, but Pinocchio practically looks like a background extra from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". XD
8:29 Yeah, he crushes Jiminy with a shoe only for the cricket's ghost to come back to haunt him later a la Jacob Marley.
I think the funniest part is how well they can make a realistic animal design for Honest John and Gideon actually emote in a readable manner which goes to show how badly done the animation decisions for that Lion King remake was.
So true
I think it helps that they animate the hands and body expressively in this movie (whereas in Lion King 2019 they put like no visible bodily emotions in the movie)
I think its because he is more cartoon of an anthro type which is easier than making than an actual animal.
The first thing I noticed just watching the trailer, is how deep into the Uncanny Valley it goes. Might as well be the Uncanny Marianas Trench, it was that offputting.
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 No one cares, "Impostor".
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@Skroncher why top gun?
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*IN ALEX MYSERS VIDEO when he mentioned elusive clock girls nea the beginning i got so excited because im literally one and were never like aknowledged, maybe because its a rarer interest butit just feels good
listening to saberspark actually just talk real and then listening to the drunk recaps is so jarring
I agree with everything Saber said but I'd like to make two notes:
- the og movie probably felt like a series of scenes glued together because the og novel was published episodically in a magazine!
- as an Italian I can concur that light in Italy IS like that. You can't keep your eyes open (of course it depends what area you're in, I have no idea where Pinocchio is supposed to take place)
Also I'm probably remembering wrong but I think in the original book the Blue Fairy shape shifts into different forms to help Pino? So maybe that's why they added new characters? 🤔 either way this movie is useless and I hope they lost money doing it-
I know that there's places in California that are blindingly bright, so looking at these scenes doesn't bother me. I've heard our weather is sometimes comparable to the Mediterranean. So I was wondering about that. Thanks for the confirmation.
@@elfiefromangelcity6142 In my city, the college arboretum has a section where there's Mediterranean plants, cuz our climate is so similar to theirs.
I don't even think it has to be similar weather to Italy. I've lived in Florida and Texas and it definitely gets that bright on very sunny days. I was a bit confused about Saber's criticism because it just looks like intense sunlight to me.
@@garnetavi I'm in Texas and taking my dogs out to the backyard to pee or what have you is sometimes painful on the eyes because the floor of our porch is concrete and it reflects a searing white light at your eyes at the wrong times of day lol.
That's a good theory about the blue fairy, I choose to believe it.
i love how disney doesn’t have time to develop pinnochio and geppetos relationship but they have time to plug in their other properties with that horrible clock scene
Putting references to their other properties is something Disney has done since their Renaissance. In Aladdin, there is a scene where the sultan is stacking little figurines and one looks like Beast from Beauty and the Beast. I also remember a 2D animated Dismey movie where there is a rug that has Carpet's pattern from Aladdin.
I think they went way overboard in this movie with putting so many other properties into one scene. I agree with Saber that maybe 1 or 2 references would have been enough.
To Chad - That movie was the “The Princess and the Frog”.
Jesus Christ! They used the clock sequence as a memberberry scene? What shills!
@@chadschmaltz9790 the ones they did during the renaissance era were just fun little things the animators put in for people to notice it didn’t actually interfere with the movie itself or it’s artistic value. the clock scene felt like an actual advertisement built into their movie, it’s pure corporate bullshit.
The original Pinocchio was a news paper publication. The author, (typing this from memory don't remember his name), took a if you do bad things you will be punished approach. In fact the story actually was supposed to end with Pinocchio's death. However the news paper got several complaints that children were upset that he died that the news paper begged him to change the ending. He said fine but Pinocchio is going to suffer a lot more before the end.
For further explanation this is based off of what I remember from when one of my classes covered it either in high school or collage.
I thought the original Pinocchio was hung at the end, right?
@@dannydogs4385 That was the ending before the author was begged to change, I think.
Hmm...all valid points. Some of them were things I didn't notice when I watched it, like the lighting being abnormally bright or Pinocchio not moving with enough weight, those seem to be very subtle. Others were things I did notice but they just didn't bother me that much. My mum and I found it entertaining enough, but I definitely agree that the original 2D animated one was better in most aspects.
The Disney themed clocks were cute, I was nerding out a little over each one I spotted, but they are definitely rather outlandish for the setting of the movie. My favourite clock was the remake of the mother-spanking-son one from the original - the addition of the policeman preventing the spanking gave me a good chuckle, a fun little nod to a more modern audience.
I thought the CGI was especially brilliant on Foulfellow, but I'm admittedly biased there because foxes are my favourite animal. 🦊 I also enjoyed Jiminy looking more like an actual insect and less like a weird little green man with a rabbit nose. Pinocchio's model was ok but could have used more detail I guess, and Cleo was...quite peculiar looking lol, not the same charm she had in 2D.
I agree that the new seagull character seemed rather pointless and tacked on. I didn't find her very interesting.
Why they didn't give him a puppet to just hold is beyond me, feels like the simplest thing to just stick some pegs into a piece of wood and call it a prop
They had all the money in the world to hire that cast, pay for all that marketing, animate/rig/light up all those scenes... and they couldn't afford a simple puppet for the acting.
Yeah thats absolutely bizarre, I haven't seen the movie so all I've seen of the bad tracking comes from this video but it absolutely looks like they did not give him a prop to hold lol
I was thinking the same thing except even easier, just hand a cylinder the size of Pinocchio's torso, they keep all the artistic freedom to move limbs however they want while also having a clear physical object to hold so that the hands are always the correct spacing.
@@christianstonecipher1547 Exactly! Other films use tennis balls on sticks or a rough rigging of a head for larger CGI animals.
I honestly thought at the end, Geppetto and Pinocchio were going to join the girl and her new puppet show. I thought THAT was going to be the "new ending". After Geppetto sold everything, I figured it would've made sense?, especially if they were going a whole new route. NOPE. They never even finished her arc, she was beyond pointless, even that song she sung was WAY too current.
I was all set for them joining the puppet show as well. Geppetto could make the puppets for them! (Even just as an after credits scene, it still would have been more fulfilling)
In the pleasure island part of the movie, I was expecting a scene where one of the kids was destroying a marionette in front of Pinocchio while he was on the boat. Something like that would traumatize pinocchio or make him uncomfortable.
Bruh the original donkey scene was so horrific I was so scared when I was younger.