Metal files clean up.

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  • Hi guys!
    This video shows my old files being cleaned up.
    I also wood turned three handles for comfortable filing.
    I hope you will enjoy the video.
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  • @FALCON390Workshop
    @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому +3

    Hi guys!👋
    Do you know I make different things as well ?
    Check this video out, I'm so proud of the final result...
    ua-cam.com/video/uql5K6ia3QE/v-deo.html

  • @phillace
    @phillace 3 роки тому +5

    A Brilliant Video On What Not To Do To A File .

  • @rogerallen5191
    @rogerallen5191 3 роки тому +15

    Nice to see that there are a lot of people who know what a wire brush will do to a file. One of the first things I was taught as an apprentice was to avoid using a wire brush, clean the file with aluminium or brass by hand and never let files touch each other. Those files are knackered but may make a good scraper.

  • @waveman0
    @waveman0 2 роки тому +4

    old files like that go straight into the forge and get turned into flint strikers, the forge blows all that crap off them and reforging them makes them better IMHO.

  • @onionhead5780
    @onionhead5780 4 роки тому +10

    I have 2 pieces of PVC with a glued PVC caps at the end. I put acid and water in one to clean and etch my files. I put baking soda and water in the other one to neutralize the acid. I use a ton of files as I’m a gunsmith.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому +1

      OH, sounds like a great technique, thanks!

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for feedback

    • @p1dru2art
      @p1dru2art 7 місяців тому +1

      Finally someone that probably really does know what they're talking about

  • @TheWtfnonamez
    @TheWtfnonamez 3 роки тому +3

    This got my like just because its nice to see someone who doesnt scrub their files back-and-forth and wreck them.
    Great restoration btw.

  • @johnnybahama497
    @johnnybahama497 3 роки тому +2

    Well you have One million, three hundred two thousand, one hundred ninety three more views than all these file restoration critics !!!

  • @foxcub2yo108
    @foxcub2yo108 4 роки тому +84

    Perfectly typical of so many UA-cam “restoration” channels. You haven’t made it better, you’ve just made it shiny.

    • @davidtruscello644
      @davidtruscello644 4 роки тому +3

      Isn't that restoring it?

    • @ChrisChamberland
      @ChrisChamberland 4 роки тому +3

      How many files have you made shiny?

    • @LegoMan-cz4mn
      @LegoMan-cz4mn 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidtruscello644 no, restoring is bringing back to origional condition to a certain degree. Files in a way are un-restorable unless you get a new old stock with some surface rust on the tang or something

    • @leesass3602
      @leesass3602 3 роки тому +1

      @@LegoMan-cz4mn I have seen someone use ferric chloride to make the file sharp again and it worked pretty well. It won't work if the teeth are crushed , but if they are just dull it will give your file a longer useful life

    • @petejung3122
      @petejung3122 3 роки тому

      @@davidtruscello644 no.

  • @mccanlessdesign
    @mccanlessdesign 3 роки тому +1

    Perfect - just laid out all my accumulated files - a hundred-fifty or so, from Grandpa and dad and purchases. Time to preserve!

  • @theonlybuzz1969
    @theonlybuzz1969 4 роки тому +34

    Like a lot of of the other comments that you never wire brush, there are brushes made for that, a carding brush or a brass brush that’s not going to kill the sharpness of the file. Oh well we all learn from our mistakes.

  • @boondocker7964
    @boondocker7964 3 роки тому +2

    Small shop, but, you have enough tools and enough skill to use them, nice vid.

  • @ajmckay2
    @ajmckay2 4 роки тому +3

    Bummer the comments are all not great, but they confirmed what I thought - that you shouldn't wire wheel a file to clean it. I did also learn that you should store files separate from each other. So the video did help me in that way. Also it was entertaining. Thanks.

  • @jamescraig5421
    @jamescraig5421 2 роки тому +2

    A good craftman always looks after his tools.

  • @mahulad7298
    @mahulad7298 4 роки тому +170

    Restore? correction" how to clean a blunt crappy file and end up with a clean blunt crappy file.

    • @axegrinder3746
      @axegrinder3746 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly, what an idiot.

    • @alvarenga512
      @alvarenga512 4 роки тому +2

      Spending time and at the end an useless tool.

    • @jurgenlauterbach7226
      @jurgenlauterbach7226 4 роки тому +5

      Correct

    • @austinpresley6187
      @austinpresley6187 3 роки тому +1

      @@axegrinder3746
      Once they're dull, are they done?
      Can you sharpen them?

    • @lo-fiFromChicago
      @lo-fiFromChicago 3 роки тому +3

      @@austinpresley6187 I heard you can use sulfuric acid, never tried tho

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge 4 роки тому +24

    To recondition a file youd need to anneal it, place it on a copper saddled anvil, recut the teeth with a file chisel, harden, temper, soak in a mild acidic to remove scale....

    • @iamtheomega
      @iamtheomega 3 роки тому

      or a shaper/shaper attachment, then harden/temper

    • @wattienewton5447
      @wattienewton5447 3 роки тому +2

      A clean ,and then a soak in sulfuric acid restores The rules edge been doing it a life time its an old pioneer skill when files we're scarce.even in war times.

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 2 роки тому

      THAT only ! WRECKS ! THEM ! UP !! EVEN !! MORE !!

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      👍

  • @libertiner1380
    @libertiner1380 4 роки тому +205

    The process will clean the files but dont sharpen them, they will still be shitty files

    • @MrTarfu
      @MrTarfu 3 роки тому +1

      @roblox tutorials there are other ways to do it

    • @whereswaldo5740
      @whereswaldo5740 3 роки тому +3

      What were the chemicals used?
      Couldn’t tell.

    • @stillwater62
      @stillwater62 3 роки тому +4

      You can put them in acid to resharpen them, is one way. But I agree with you, if the files are dull, they will not cut, and all you will have after this video is some nice looking files that will not cut, and are useless.

    • @stillwater62
      @stillwater62 3 роки тому +1

      @roblox tutorials I did not watch the handle part of the video after seeing the " restoration " of the files. It would have been a waste of time. But thanks for confirming my suspicions that the handles would be about like the file restoration, poorly, and improperly done.

    • @glennlopez6772
      @glennlopez6772 3 роки тому +1

      Only for cleaning!
      The sequence should be as follows:
      1. Chip and sand off solid gunk.
      2. Wd 40.
      3. Paint stripper/ degreaser.
      4. Vinegar and salt.
      5. Neutralise with soap/scouring powder.

  • @kirkziegler9447
    @kirkziegler9447 2 роки тому +1

    A blast cabinet with glass beads does an awesome job fast!

  • @phillace
    @phillace 4 роки тому +106

    I Have Always Been Taught That You Never Use Steel Wool Or Wire Brush's On A File , To Use A Wire Wheel Is Absolutely Crazy .

    • @kieranh2005
      @kieranh2005 4 роки тому +14

      So what is a file card then?

    • @damschu23
      @damschu23 4 роки тому +7

      @@kieranh2005 It's brass which is much softer than the file.

    • @user-jd5hd8xz3p
      @user-jd5hd8xz3p 4 роки тому +14

      @@damschu23 File cards are steel!

    • @davidtruscello644
      @davidtruscello644 4 роки тому +6

      Aren't file cards steel wire?

    • @MarzNet256
      @MarzNet256 4 роки тому +1

      @@user-jd5hd8xz3p Yup.

  • @erazer5685
    @erazer5685 2 роки тому +1

    He must really love those files to go through all that trouble.

  • @craigsmith3645
    @craigsmith3645 2 роки тому +14

    Nice handles. Use rust remover instead for files that have a little rust. Wire brush only, don't use wire wheel, as it will dull the teeth somewhat. If it's really rusty, it's shot just get a new one and make something out of the old ones. A new file will be much sharper than your restored ones.

  • @alaskagoldtoolco.4915
    @alaskagoldtoolco.4915 8 місяців тому +1

    When you round that wire wheel over them files and made them doll as hell those files won't cut anythingBut you did a good job cleaning them up They sure look good

  • @leehaelters6182
    @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому +10

    I'll mention a very good technique for cleaning pills out of the the teeth of a file while in use, taught by a blind machinist to a forum user somewhere, and thence to me. Take a large soft iron (or steel, dunno what you'd find these days) nail and smash it thinner and flatter at one end, to make a flat spoon blade, which you then file across the end to make a chisel edge. This you use as a tiny slick, pushing it across the file in parallel to the teeth. Teeth are cut into it by the file, and the stuff clogging the file is scooped out. I've done the same with aluminium.

    • @clark57225
      @clark57225 4 роки тому +1

      I have also done it with the square end of used bamboo chopsticks for less difficult clogs.

    • @cherokeesfinestindian
      @cherokeesfinestindian 4 роки тому +3

      I believe it was copper the blind machinist used.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому

      @@cherokeesfinestindian, thanks for the note! Stands to reason.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому

      @@clark57225, good one!

    • @ricardovalencia4179
      @ricardovalencia4179 3 роки тому

      Eso lo hago yo

  • @christianpaulroldan4010
    @christianpaulroldan4010 Рік тому +2

    I also clean our files. My crewmate toldme that im the only person he saw that clean a file in all his shipping time. 😅

  • @otisdavies1861
    @otisdavies1861 2 роки тому +3

    Taking a wire wheel to a file is the worst thing you can do to a file. If you use a brass or bronze wire wheel or any wire wheel that is very very soft, as it is far less harsh and will not make the files dull. It is best to either soak them in vinegar or muriatic acid, then rinse them off in a baking soda solution, to neutralize the acid. The acid dissolves any contaminates and metal debris that is in the cutting grooves and dissolves the rolled over areas of the files that makes them not work properly. That is how to properly rejuvenate and clean a file for further use. I hope this guy's method works well for more than just a few uses. If you want to properly repair nasty, rusty corroded and or dull files, the method I listed is the best practice. Interesting video, but definitely not the correct method

  • @mrfancypanzer549
    @mrfancypanzer549 2 роки тому +2

    Seems like a great way to dull the files, Vinegar is also great for inducing hydrogen embrittlement in high carbon steel.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      I get you. Thanks

    • @PercyJackson93
      @PercyJackson93 Рік тому

      I'm guessing that would be the same with electrolysis in salt water too? I'm not sure what way is best to sharpen back other than that or acid

  • @relativesmenschsein642
    @relativesmenschsein642 4 роки тому +22

    What madness! Files can only be cleaned with brass brushes! And then with the steel brush on the bench grinder. The files are guaranteed to be even more blunt than before.

    • @campbellmorrison8540
      @campbellmorrison8540 3 роки тому +2

      Agree, they might look good but they wont be very sharp anymore. My interest is how to stop my files rusting before they need this final abuse :)

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedbacks lads

    • @alaskagoldtoolco.4915
      @alaskagoldtoolco.4915 7 місяців тому

      @@FALCON390Workshop the only good file is a restored shiny good as new file .. never throw away what you restore

  • @David-hm9ic
    @David-hm9ic 4 роки тому +63

    Every time the files were rubbed against each other I flinched. Whether I'm using my expensive Swiss cut gunsmithing files or my utility files they are NEVER allowed to touch another file. The only value to this video is to show what not to do to files.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah I had to stop about 5 minutes in. I was like clink those files together one more time.

    • @mikepalmer9143
      @mikepalmer9143 2 роки тому +2

      Clanging those files together made me flinch every time he did it….

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedback

  • @samuelsmith5098
    @samuelsmith5098 4 роки тому +8

    just read about 10 comments so i'll come to your defense. Others may do this way or the always heard don't do this or that but I watched the video and your method obviously works. The detail is clear in the close-up of the re-bar. I thought the video was well done. Carry on.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks for that.
      I know its a part of showing your work to others.
      I will carry on because i enjoy it :)
      See you later...

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому

      My own comments notwithstanding, your point is taken. Hard to argue with visible progress on the rebar.

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 2 роки тому

      IF YOU ! HAD OF !! USED !! THEM !! CORRECTLY !! YOU !! WOULDN'T ! HAVE! TO !! DO ! RESTORATION !!! CRAP !!!

  • @konumrestoration4477
    @konumrestoration4477 3 роки тому +1

    Good idea. I will try it.

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 4 роки тому +4

    I agree with the rest of the comments. Files are clean but not sharp. The way the file slides across the demo tells us that. I have heard but never tried is to soak cleaned and decreased files in sulfuric (battery) acid until the sides of the teeth are dissolved away and resulting in a sharpened file. After acid treatment the files have to be rinsed in a baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) solution to neutralize the acid. Then they have to be rinsed in clean water then dried and stored properly.

  • @renelopez2244
    @renelopez2244 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done

  • @benjaminbullard9965
    @benjaminbullard9965 4 роки тому +90

    unless you can restore the teeth to their orginal conditon their useless

    • @redangrybird7564
      @redangrybird7564 4 роки тому +4

      Not necessarily, I bought a bunch of files long time ago and have used just a few, the rest went mildly rusty without being used once.
      I would be happy to get rid of the rust.

    • @lilsammich8252
      @lilsammich8252 4 роки тому +4

      @@redangrybird7564 You could just file something with them. Won't remove rust from the brand at the bottom but that depends on how pretty/vs functional you want your tools.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedback

    • @EagleFPV43
      @EagleFPV43 6 місяців тому

      Their teeth can stay pretty sharp if used properly and not on a metal harder than them

  • @peterzwart2830
    @peterzwart2830 4 роки тому

    Nothing beats a thin sheet of brass, and scrape it in the direction of the grater, it makes a file clean

  • @handyhippie6548
    @handyhippie6548 4 роки тому +10

    those look like they are ready for the forge to become something else.

    • @glenrye9091
      @glenrye9091 4 роки тому +1

      Yep, They are now ready to be forged into snakes or some other decorative item. Possibly still be able to make a fairly decent knife out of them.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for tip

  • @karmawalaelectric4988
    @karmawalaelectric4988 3 роки тому

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  • @rogerrodgersen7702
    @rogerrodgersen7702 3 роки тому +12

    I just cut up an old broom handle for my files, have been working for me for decades. 🤗🤗🤗

  • @dogowner4313
    @dogowner4313 Рік тому

    Lot's of good advice here about old files and the limits to restoration. I'd also add that you should have a heat sink of some kind if you're going to fit the files to the handles by heating with a torch. You'll draw temper in the lower half. Also, every time files contact each other, you're likely damaging them. Otherwise, good work and great to see folks interested in older tools instead of tossing them in the trash and going to the big box store.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  Рік тому

      Thanks for your feedback, each comment help us be better in our workshops. Cheers

  • @paintwithpa8694
    @paintwithpa8694 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks. I needed to see this. I’ve got two to clean.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  4 роки тому +3

      Please read all the comment for this video. A lot of people give a lot of different and better ideas how to restore them.

    • @kevinjackson4464
      @kevinjackson4464 4 роки тому +2

      Well, don't do what he did.

  • @apocosy
    @apocosy 4 роки тому +191

    Uses a high speed hardened wire wheel on his files.... doesn't understand why they don't work right anymore. This isn't a file restoration, it's a file destruction.

  • @kerryfoster1
    @kerryfoster1 3 роки тому +4

    That's a great idea for the acid bath box. I use a small wine bottle and turn the file around but can only do 1 at a time. Good video!

  • @dagolopezsr2004
    @dagolopezsr2004 2 роки тому

    I worked as a machinist for 40 plus years--best method to clean files use a aluminum stick 5” long 1/4 x 1/2 thick & scrape along grooves

  • @pintokitkat
    @pintokitkat 4 роки тому +15

    I love the careful measurement with a vernier then add, oh, I dunno, a quarter inch or so, perhaps, and then proceed to lose all the measurements anyway by turning the wood in the lathe.

  • @blastoidboy
    @blastoidboy 3 роки тому +2

    I'm damned impressed by your small work space. Making and restoring old files is an art in itself. Learn what you can from good criticism, not these bunch of buggers. I just subscribed.

  • @undeadgod47
    @undeadgod47 4 роки тому +36

    Yes you messed up the teeth on them. I don't understand why people are so harsh about it. You made a bad decision to fix something without proper research. Just get some more old files and try again. Best of luck to you.

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 2 роки тому

      ITS ! JUST ! IDIOTS !! USING !! THEM !! WRONG !! RIGHT !! FROM ! THE ! VERY ! START !!

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for that

  • @ericsprado4631
    @ericsprado4631 Рік тому +1

    You put bottles up for such a short time I couldn't see them.

  • @daveengstrom9250
    @daveengstrom9250 2 роки тому +5

    You did a lot of work there. Lye mixed in water would have cleaned those files without the use of the wire wheel. Once the teeth are rounded over, you need a new file no matter how nice it looks.

  • @marklewis5056
    @marklewis5056 Рік тому +2

    Rule #1, Files are never to come in contact with each other.

  • @jasonevans6720
    @jasonevans6720 4 роки тому +31

    If you put a file onto a wire wheel on a bench grinder it's now scrap and will be blunt, first day at engineering school stuff

    • @kevo1264
      @kevo1264 4 роки тому +6

      Works fine if you follow the grain, been doing it for 20 years still using the same files.

    • @jasonevans6720
      @jasonevans6720 4 роки тому +4

      @@kevo1264 NO rubbish

    • @bruceparks3124
      @bruceparks3124 4 роки тому +8

      Very true. Wire wheels and files don't mix. If you don't believe it, try the wire wheel on a brand new file. Woops! "Fire up the old Rambler, Ma, We're headed back to the hardware store for another goddamn file!

    • @kevo1264
      @kevo1264 4 роки тому +2

      @@jasonevans6720 Read my comment. I believe in you.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому +1

      @@kevo1264, on the same project, probably.

  • @petersmedley459
    @petersmedley459 4 роки тому +4

    I think that the triangular file and the fine, round sided Nicholson are for sharpening large logging saws...

  • @OutothehousewithPaul
    @OutothehousewithPaul Рік тому

    Great work on the old files!
    Some of them were manufactured about an hour's drive from "here" in Canada.
    Cheers!

  • @jumbolaidajumbolaida1203
    @jumbolaidajumbolaida1203 4 роки тому +4

    Привет! Молодец, ты дал вторую жизнь напильникам. Спасибо за видио.

  • @admiralbenbow5083
    @admiralbenbow5083 Рік тому

    If you use a rotary brush on timber files all you will do is flatten the teeth out. Get yourself a large steel `cauldron` preferably with a handle on each side. Put in a coffee mugs worth of soda crystals. Put in your files, and any other tools, fill with water, make sure you dont get wooden handles wet, and bring to simmer. To save gas switch off for 10/15 minutes then simmer again, just keep the water hot. Keep you hob/extractor on to remove fumes. Give it an hour then use some tongs to take the tools out. As they are hot they will dry very quickly on their own thereby avoiding any surface rust due to slow evaporation.
    Make sure all surfaces are exposed to the air. They dry in minutes. Remember steel is porous.
    The hot soda crystal `soup` will also sharpen the file teeth. Job done!

  • @mickeyjmoons
    @mickeyjmoons 4 роки тому +58

    Now you have clean blunt files. You can get a bit more life out of files by letting them soak in phosphoric acid, but that will only work a few times..

    • @namelast6152
      @namelast6152 3 роки тому

      Why not heat them up an rub lard on them. ?

    • @sopyki
      @sopyki 3 роки тому

      Coca-Cola

    • @hugotevez8937
      @hugotevez8937 3 роки тому

      @@namelast6152 y6 6u

    • @johncoulter1507
      @johncoulter1507 3 роки тому +3

      Any acid will work. A weak acid like cleaning vinegar is a safe choice. Let them soak for 6-8 hours in that and it will really sharpen up the teeth. Gotta remove all oils prior to soaking for best results. Then rinse them with hot water and some baking soda to neutralize the acid. After they dry hit em with some PB Blaster to prevent rusting.

    • @gianluigicanessa765
      @gianluigicanessa765 2 роки тому +1

      La spazzola a mano non è idonea per le lime , occorrono in ottone con fili ravvicinati! Poi non usiamo affatto la spazzola rotante

  • @smithsmith4500
    @smithsmith4500 4 роки тому +1

    Good job

  • @bradgrozdanich7416
    @bradgrozdanich7416 4 роки тому +17

    I thought he was going to somehow cut the file teeth, he just cleaned them up.

    • @bennyrosado5402
      @bennyrosado5402 4 роки тому +1

      Brad Grozdanich same here brad🤷‍♂️

    • @princepa123
      @princepa123 4 роки тому +1

      @@bennyrosado5402 same here ... what a waste of time due to the file still being dull.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      👍

  • @JBSwanstrom
    @JBSwanstrom 3 роки тому

    I have my files in an oiled leather roll up and don't allow them to contact each other. Some of my files were my grandfather's and close to 100 years old. I like the handle design!

  • @delljohnson172
    @delljohnson172 4 роки тому +3

    In the phlippines the BOLO/MACHETE makers stuff some scrap plastic(baggie scrap etc) in the hole in the handles and put the Hot file tang into it..works as glue. no cost either..

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful

  • @leehaelters6182
    @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому +7

    I'm gonna be fair and watch the rest of this, but I'm one minute into the video and I'm saying to myself "He'll restore these files to good condition by first rubbing them around on each other?" And from the comments I see, he also wire brushes them? How does he treat his other edged tools, drag them along the floor? For the record, a file card (not that I see one in this video) is not used like a wire brush. The bristles have sharpened ends designed pick out the gullet of the teeth without dragging across the cutting edge. The card must be positioned at right angles to the teeth and moved sideways to maintain that angle of attack.
    On the other hand, I do like his technique for making up a custom trough for the job, though. I'll use the idea!

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому

      Yep, the rubbing of files on each other continues throughout. Nothing to learn here.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your feedback !

  • @davidgofman4306
    @davidgofman4306 2 роки тому +1

    I like the handle but restoring the file what you show it’s crazy

  • @joergmeyer4145
    @joergmeyer4145 4 роки тому +35

    You NEVER let files touch each other or rub against each other. This makes them dull.

    • @allah4868
      @allah4868 4 роки тому +4

      Nope, as a machinist I must disagree. Only if you start grinding your files really hard you probably could get some damage, but if you dont do it you will not damage them. I cant see how they would get dull just by touching, they have the same hardness and to you be able to break a teeth you need to bang on them quite hard (you will split it in half if you try) so... Nope.

    • @acemannotsomeother
      @acemannotsomeother 4 роки тому +1

      Allah the Coriolis force can cause minute disturbances that given enough time will cause the touching files to go dull. That is why I store my files tang side towards the centre of the earth core. This can make travelling with files difficult, but I have found if stored within a Faraday cage the result is similar but the need to ground the cage makes long distant trips difficult as I only have 1000 ft of 000 grounding wire.

    • @gar99504
      @gar99504 2 роки тому

      I think you're confusing files and swords (somebody else's).

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedback

  • @fredscott413
    @fredscott413 4 роки тому +1

    nice cleanup,thanks.

  • @williammcintyre1054
    @williammcintyre1054 4 роки тому +94

    That was not restoration that was just a trip to the beauty shop.

    • @ruffruff7063
      @ruffruff7063 4 роки тому +4

      William McIntyre i sharpen my files, they are good knives,

    • @davidtruscello644
      @davidtruscello644 4 роки тому +1

      If they work and they look better I call that a restoration.

    • @TF856
      @TF856 3 роки тому

      @@davidtruscello644 I think most people call that a repair, not a restoration unless it is returned completely back to factory new original condition.
      And if it is modernized in any way then it would be a renovation.

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 2 роки тому

      JUST ! PURE ! DESTRUCTION !!

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedback

  • @Stevus1
    @Stevus1 3 роки тому +2

    I felt like I needed to be wearing safety glasses watching that wire wheel.

  • @vargr
    @vargr 4 роки тому +5

    Heating the handle of a file destroyed the temper, it's now trash like the shiny renovated ones. They are fit for scrap metal.

    • @tsbda
      @tsbda 4 роки тому

      Yea did u not no that hey there trash

    • @henrybyers5557
      @henrybyers5557 4 роки тому

      He seemed to only heat the top part of the handle. It is very unlikely that the hardness of the actual file was affected at all. Actually, all file handles are normalized from the manufacturer, which is why you can often see some coloring towards the base of the tang. As long as the blade didn't start to color, it is fine. They are still very dulled from the rest of the cleaning though

    • @vargr
      @vargr 4 роки тому

      @@henrybyers5557 it stans a far better chance of breaking, if it does it will snp where the tang flares out into the file.

    • @henrybyers5557
      @henrybyers5557 4 роки тому

      @@vargr tempering makes it softer and much less likely to break actually

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      😩

  • @weeeck6295
    @weeeck6295 3 роки тому +1

    So glad i have a Screwfix 5 mins away

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 4 роки тому +17

    A restoration implies resharpening the file, you just cleaned it, so this was a file cleaning video!

  • @black0ghost1
    @black0ghost1 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work

  • @nialball9023
    @nialball9023 2 роки тому +23

    WOW! Just about everything I was taught not to do with a file. Why would you clatter them all together, a definite way to blunt your files! Why wouldn't you use a brass wire brush? Horrendous!

  • @hadritoys
    @hadritoys 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome sharing sir

  • @JourneyInNature
    @JourneyInNature 4 роки тому +4

    Good job mate, like the idea of the chubby style of handle, I imagine it fits the palm of the hand nicely!

  • @zubershaikh5546
    @zubershaikh5546 3 роки тому

    Woow very very nice video sir thanks sir

  • @papasfixitshop7982
    @papasfixitshop7982 4 роки тому +6

    Wow, I’m still shaken by the high speed wire wheel dulling the file teeth

  • @ГянджаТойс
    @ГянджаТойс 4 роки тому +19

    How many megabytes in this files.

  • @dumankral8812
    @dumankral8812 3 роки тому +1

    good job

  • @owdjockey4459
    @owdjockey4459 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Falcon, I would like to echo the point about wire-brushing on the bench grinder, also it could be down to personal preference, but you left far to much of the tang showing and you could have done the sanding, sealing and final finish with the handles still on the lathe. Always good to see how other people go about it. Thanks for sharing your video.

    • @clark57225
      @clark57225 4 роки тому +2

      The block of wood could have produced four times as many handles, as it was twice as wide in both directions as it needed to be. Now he needs to sharpen his lathe tools because they were worn unnecessarily removing all that excess wood. Anybody got a decent file? Not this guy.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  4 роки тому

      Thanks for your feedback. Really appreciate it

  • @heartsparkdollar
    @heartsparkdollar 4 роки тому +2

    Why all the hate? These are his files. This is how he likes to restore HIS files. He is obviously happy with HIS files.

    • @David-hm9ic
      @David-hm9ic 4 роки тому +2

      The problem is that he is presenting this as a good way to treat files to others that may not know how wrong he is.

    • @lilsammich8252
      @lilsammich8252 4 роки тому

      The handle is the only thing you can truly restore without putting a file through the grinding and hardening process again.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thank you

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks for feedback

  • @basilkoen8925
    @basilkoen8925 4 роки тому +33

    Yes! why do you have the files rubbing against each other , My teacher told me that files "Hate each other . If a file is worn and blunt you might as well make a chisel out of it or some other tool . But they are pretty much useless for filing metal . Specially after treating them the way you did.

  • @mariolopez-ri8wd
    @mariolopez-ri8wd 2 роки тому +1

    great job ex video

  • @danhayward9186
    @danhayward9186 4 роки тому +3

    Letting two files come in contact or how to blunt a file

  • @jalechavez6042
    @jalechavez6042 4 роки тому +1

    Mejor que nuevas...!! Ji ji ji ji...Muy Biennn....Saludosss

  • @Bedeveled
    @Bedeveled 4 роки тому +4

    At 10:50 you turned on your lathe and wiped down the wood handle with a cloth. When I was 14 years olde I saw my best friend do that same thing... the cloth caught his ring finger and spun it around... saw a compound fracture.... and blood!

  • @petermccormack3542
    @petermccormack3542 3 роки тому

    Well done

  • @paulo6456
    @paulo6456 4 роки тому +8

    Those files wont work anymore after that bench grinding work!!

  • @khriesilhourio6490
    @khriesilhourio6490 4 роки тому

    First time im seeing someone restoring file ..
    If not i will see people ....making knife,tanto,etc. from old file and all🤣

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons7488 4 роки тому +4

    To restore the FUNCTION to dull files, cap a piece of PVC pipe, stand the file on end in it and immerse them in muriatic acid found in the masonry section of the big box stores. Check each one from time to time as the acid eats away at the steel. You're looking for the shape of the teeth. Eventually, if the teeth don't have huge flats ( the shiny areas) where the points once were, you'll dissolve enough steel to restore some semblance of the original shape of the teeth. Do this outside. It seems to me that I never had rust in my shop until I sharpened a bunch of files this way. The fumes are unpleasant and worse, highly corrosive. If you must clear trapped aluminum from the teeth, use a hard steel pick applied between the teeth. Kill the acid with baking soda and water then oil the files. Part of a corn cob makes an elegant, quick, economical, and comfortable handle. Yee-Haw

    • @romuloarantes7820
      @romuloarantes7820 3 роки тому +1

      I have tried making corncob handles a while ago, not even one of them turned out good, i just got mad and burned it all.
      Moral of the story, don't be me.

    • @markkoons7488
      @markkoons7488 3 роки тому +1

      @@romuloarantes7820 I'm not sure what your idea is of a file handle that turned out good. I just nip off the tip of the cob to expose enough diameter of pith to let you drive in the tang. Drive it in. Just put the front end of the file against something solid and push the handle over the tang. Chop off the operator-side excess, whatever strikes you as too much handle. Use popcorn cobs for jeweler's files. A corncob handle isn't especially pretty unless you are into minimalism and economy. I guess you could sand away the fluffy exterior of the cob and oil it. That would be kind of nice looking but the plain cob is easy on the hands and won't let the tang poke your flesh. Say, you haven't been trying to use freshly cooked sweet corn cobs, have you?

    • @romuloarantes7820
      @romuloarantes7820 3 роки тому

      @@markkoons7488 i used dried corn cobs, planted in my uncle's farm, what kept happening was that the interior never got hard and wood like, and after 2 days it would broke

    • @markkoons7488
      @markkoons7488 3 роки тому

      @@romuloarantes7820 My experience was that the pith became kind of like a dried out marshmallow. I actually have only a few corncob handles. Those are imitations of ones I'd seen more than 60 years ago in farm sheds and the kits of people who were stoney-ass broke during the depression. In trying to imagine the failures you've experienced, I wonder whether you're trying to jam too much tang into too small a cob., something that might happen with a big rasp, a situation where you really do need a handle of some sort.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  2 роки тому

      Thanks

  • @Ahmed_El-sharif
    @Ahmed_El-sharif 3 роки тому +1

    I don't know why this video rubbed so many people up the wrong way. Yes his thinking is flawed, but instead of pointing out his shortcomings in a constructive and fruitful manner yall bash on him. Typical internet keyboard warriors.
    Good on you my man and hopefully your future projects are better thought out.

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for that. I do appreciate constructive criticism, rest of people I just ignore and do my thing.

  • @johnboy454
    @johnboy454 4 роки тому +3

    Soak old files in battery acid, leave them for a couple of hours then rinse them well, puts an edge back on them for a while. Old Army trick. Plus you should never store them all together in a heap!

  • @robertovillalobos4798
    @robertovillalobos4798 3 роки тому +1

    Excelente trabajo 👍 sobre todo los mango de madera . Saludos desde Venezuela ciudad de Maracaibo

  • @thomasj4370
    @thomasj4370 4 роки тому +6

    I like the short handle. Haven’t seen this before. Have to try them to feel if I still have enough control. But I‘ll definitely test them for my Workflow. Might be easier to get the push whilst less tiring for the hand compared to the long handles I’m used to.

  • @andredecaldas4818
    @andredecaldas4818 3 роки тому +2

    Good Job!! 😆👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 André. Brazil.🇧🇷

  • @sureshghimire2740
    @sureshghimire2740 4 роки тому +28

    He just cleaned them, it's not a restoration.

    • @myitbos1335
      @myitbos1335 4 роки тому +3

      Pretty much done after knocking rust off of them. About the three minute mark. Anything else was superfluous.

    • @danielalamo2075
      @danielalamo2075 4 роки тому +1

      Can files be sharpened?? Or are they done when they are dull?

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 4 роки тому

      @@danielalamo2075, some sources sell an acid to soak a file in, claim to restore a cutting edge to the teeth. I have never used such, but would like to hear from some who have.

    • @scroungasworkshop4663
      @scroungasworkshop4663 4 роки тому

      Ok, so what else should he have done to make it a restoration? Cleaned, oiled and new handles made. What else is there?

    • @kevinjackson4464
      @kevinjackson4464 4 роки тому +1

      @@scroungasworkshop4663 Sharpening.
      That's the part I was waiting to see!

  • @rodwharton8233
    @rodwharton8233 4 роки тому +1

    Good just like new

  • @tecnologiasimprovisadas7333
    @tecnologiasimprovisadas7333 4 роки тому +3

    hello my friend first I want to congratulate you on the excellent content of your channel, congratulations on your work, I would like to give you a tip: to remove the rust you can also use the pure lemon juice, just let the soak tools in it for 12 hours, then remove and wash well under running water, dry well and throw on top wd let it dry a little in the sun and then just use it, a big hug from Brazil for you 👍

    • @FALCON390Workshop
      @FALCON390Workshop  4 роки тому +1

      Hi. Thanks for all this information. I'll defenitly try it out.

  • @denniskazich7559
    @denniskazich7559 3 роки тому

    Always just wire brushed file clean and resumed using. They have lasted a long time without major cleaning despite its looks. No avoiding them becoming dull.

  • @vosadrechselspan
    @vosadrechselspan 4 роки тому +3

    Herrlich stumpfe Feilen!

  • @demoman1282
    @demoman1282 4 роки тому +4

    I have one of these, it’s very rusted but I use it to sharpen my axe cause it works and it’s all I got

  • @georgiesgirl64
    @georgiesgirl64 3 роки тому

    Nice work 👏

  • @MrBuck295
    @MrBuck295 4 роки тому +3

    to all who piss about using steel wire brush to clean files check out file card , it is a steel wire brush with short bristles designed to clean files I personally wouldn`t use a wire wheel ( because of flying wires ) but to say using a steel wire brush to clean a file would dull it is like saying using a file on steel would dull it and you were right in saying letting them slide around each other would damage them but maybe he didn`t know as he probably didn`t know you should never heat a file even the tang end as this loses the heat treatment (temper) making it easier to break yes it was not a sharpening restoration as you really cannot sharpen a file best you can do is clean them ( if you really think you can sharpen files I will gladly give you one of mine that are dull as the flat side of glass CANNOT be done you can clean or replace but you cannot sharpen files , you would have to soften the file to even attempt it then try to temper it back to original hardness ,and yes I`ve seen the so called sharpen videos all they are doing is cleaning the file WHICH is what this guy done
    Worst he done is let them slide on each other and heated the end other than that job well done

  • @richardroyles1423
    @richardroyles1423 3 роки тому

    Good job. God bless. Kansas