Roto Grip Rubicon UC3 | Bowling Ball Review | BIGGEST HOOKING URETHANE??
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Roto Grip has paired the Rondure Core and the new Tour-Ethane Pearl Coverstock to create the Rubicon UC3. Jungo is back, excited to bridge the gap in his arsenal between reactive and urethane, is this ball the best urethane on the market??
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Timestamps!!!
0:00 - Intro
2:13 - Carbon 42' (House)
6:46 - Question Time with Jungo!
7:17 - Pegasus 36' (Challenge)
10:59 - Summary
14:38 - Downlane Reaction Comparison
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really great video, clear thoughts and explaination to me. Keep loving this channel for ever.
Love the vids man, they always give us great info that we need and always makes it entertaining for us thank you
You guys have some of the best bowling content out here. Keep it up 👍
I am already imagining Jesper Svennson using this on Tour.
I don't think he can because I thought we would see him throwing it in the teaser videos so his rev rate might be too high for it
He'll spin it out of the house
Nope. Jesper prefers closed angles. UC3 flares A TON. If he does it will be drilled to roll exactly like a pitch black but will hit harder because of the core.
WOW, 22 to 5 Unbelievable’ what a turn from 5th board. I used storm fast pitch, then the Motiv just to see what their product was like on their urethane/plastic ball.😩. This ball is going to play well for my style being a lefty. I usually stand on 18, roll off 11 to 2, @ 15.8-16.2 off Hand speed, rev’s 400. I’ve slowed down on the fast pitch then I get the over the pocket, to fast can not get strong in the pocket. This ball is going to be a strong seller. Thanks guys for the awesome video
Roto grip has been on fire lately. I’ve already bought the hyped pearl but after watching your Helios and UC3 reviews I want those as well
oh baby Jungo's back!
I shot my best game last May using the Rubicon UC3; front ten strikes then a soft 10 pin, spare 289. And I am now 60 years of age.
I use a vintage Brunswick Zone to bridge the gap between my urethane and reactive bowling balls. Being a very early reactive resin ball it's not nearly as aggressive as a modern ball but more hook potential than a urethane. Actually a similar reaction to this new Roto ball. Very smooth, but continues and hits like a truck.
Legendary !! 🔥
My gap filler used to be a solid cover stock with an axis weight drilling , ball motion was great revs up straight away then had such a predictable shape . Also had a storm natural pearl , great on the dry . Keep up the good work guys .
Over the 3rd arrow I swing it out. Since I had it shot over 650 with it & a 300 best urethane ever
Bonus! Love the shots at the end. New standard for your review vids?👍
I put holes in one of these Saturday. I can't wait to throw it and see what it's like
Purple Hammer Stronger drilling Between my Pitch Black and Electrify Solid or get UC3
I use my tropical surge to bridge the gap. My layout goes long down the lane and sharp reaction on the backend to stay straighter when the lanes breakdown.
I have my old Crux Prime that has a forward rolling layout on it to bridge the gap for me when urethane stops working, but honestly I have very little issue switching from urethane to reactive because I just watch how everyone else's reactive is playing and I figure out what to do from there.
Personally the only urethane ball I own is the UC3. I love it when I throw it well but since I am new to bowling I'm still trying to figure it out. I am much more consistent covering lots of boards with my Web Pearl than I am trying to throw straighter with my UC3.
You guys have excellent videos! Great tech talk, excellent camera angles and you are all very good bowlers.
Would love to see Jimoo throw this ball. Just no good 2 Hander reviews. Except Packy, but he's lefty (and Brunswick). Looks like an absolute winner. I've tried a lot of balls between my Fast Pitch from the right side and my UC2 on the far left, none have really suited me the way those 2 balls do. Curently using a really weak layout on a 3000 sanded Zen, but this ball definitely is on my wishlist to fill that gap (or even fully replace both Zen and Fast Pitch so I can put plastic in my bag and just have the 1 bag with no additions for league).
I love my UC3 so far already got a 300 out of it in my Sunday league.
Have a C-4 and Halo Vision with 2 1-4 “ pin to pap for short patterns but definitely going to drill a UC3
I order a brunswick rhino bowling ball navy purple and I was wondering could it react/hook more
I use a Hot Cell and Honey Badger Purple as stronger Urethane options but the UC3 is so much stronger then all of them that it really is a ball reaction I have never seen before.
Have a short pin effect and a short pin emerald so I get the asym and sym shapes never got comfy with thane but I think this uc3 will be the one
What I do the bridge the gap is actually to Start out with OLDER equipment like actually true urethane from the 80's that has NO polymers/filler or oil absorption, Then I have "Modern Urethane" like Pitch Black that have small amounts of filler that will absorb oil even though it's slow, they are MUCH stronger then old urethanes and hit differently, then I have some pin down reactive balls from the 2010's and top is modern equipment. Just feels better to have something weaker then these "modern urethanes" as a step UP in my ladder rather then it being my "weakest" Ronald Hickland did a video on oil absorption in modern urethane vs vintage as well
I would like to see you guys do the hammer/UC3 battle
Currently I use the Black Widow Urethane to bridge the gap between the OG Purple Hammer and my reactives. Would love to see a comparison video between the BW Urethane and UC3 to see if a cleaner cover would be a better option
The UC3 will definitely be cleaner than the BW urethane. The UC3 may be a pinch stronger that the BW urethane but not by much.
how did you get your hands on a black widow urethane?
@@lilmancrazy1 Got it when they made them in 2017
@@connorallen9711 Its a weird comparison. My uc3 has more back end pop later in the oil but off the dry a lil earlier my by bw moves more. My purp is kind of in between both.
I took a Hustle PBR and drilled it with a 6.5 inch pin. I like standing right and rolling outside so that layout works to fill that gap
that ball looks sweet, i might pick one up to try it out for house shot because im med speed high rev player and most reactive balls have too much hook, this might be what ive been looking for in a ball
got it today and its just what i thought it would be, allows me to throw a track shot instead of an inside shot, if you have high revs and dont really like throwing inside all the time then this ball is perfect, it still feels like a reactive ball even tho is urethane
I take weaker balls like a twist or my ordinance and put really high surfaces on them and polish them to help control their backend movements. They still hook more then urethane but not as much as my reactives do
than. Just trying to help.
I actually really didn’t like this ball until I got about 20 games in it and it shined up. I’m a 2 hander with a lot of revs but a little slower speed and it’s killer on house shot for me.
Please compare the 2. The Hammer Purple and this RUBICON... Please... Thx
I have a pitch Purple but never use it being a full roller I thought having a urethane ball with supposedly the most backend was going to work. Wrong I didn’t know urethane hooks left as soon as it his the lane of my hand then flattens out and hooks again when it sees dry boards. In the closet it went I feel like I spent money for nothing. Now comes the UC3 which to me looks like any other reactive resin. So based on what I encountered do you think I would have a chance with UC3?
2” pin to PAP layout on a lower end asym ball is the way to go for bridging that gap
Gab between? I'm usually the guy who says urethane is NEVER better than reactive on THS. However, that is no longer the case with the UC3. Especially on flooded or walled house shots. Best part is there is hardly any carry down because it flares. Urethane carries down because you are rolling over the same track with only 1-3 inches of flare, even with a purple hammer. I have between 4-6 inches of flare on my uc3.
The gap between urethane and regular reactive stuff. That was the question in the video wasn’t it?
Can u compare it to the purple hammer
How would you compare the UC3 to the Pitch Purple? Can you make a comparison video of the to?
Are use my Robbys Axle. It’s a ball from 1995 with a Reactathane cover stock.
Short pin katana dragon. Very niche layout
UC3 for usbc open this year?
3 months ago i was thinking why they don't put an asymmetrical core in a urethane ball
How did you have the UC3 drilled?
What I do to fill the urethane to reactive gap? Simple, I'm a free agent so I throw a Purple Hammer 🤣 On a real tho depends on the pattern. Most short patterns I can just go to a urethane with a slightly higher surface (E.g. Urethane with 500 to Urethane with 1000), close my angles back stick with it for the whole day. Either that or IQ Tour or Phaze II with surface (500/1000) work pretty well for me, controls the pocket well and just gotta focus on making good shots off my hand to carry
Purple hammer still carries down, UC3 does not. UC3 has 4-6 inch flare so doesn't roll over oil it picks up. People will still complain about it being urethane ever though it has nearly zero carry down. Unless it's drilled dumb. I'm a fan of drilling equipment to do what it is designed to do. Uc3 is drilled to flare.
Just ordered my rubicon uc3
I still think the hot cell is better. should've done the ball review with the hot cell against the UC3
Weirdo 😂 jk, it rolled bad for me felt like i had to be perfect with my hand in order for it to shape correctly. To be fair i think the uc3 is a completely different shape in comparison to the hot cell, not as early and plenty more kick in the back
would love to see a rating video for all urethane including the Pyramid brands
That’s a quick pin setter.
Don’t think I have a need for ‘Thane being a lefty tweener, but I’m going to take a flyer on the UC3.
I watched Luke rosdahl’s review of it, he’s a lefty tweener and it actually looked fantastic for him
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball roto grip rubbicon uc3 bowling ball with nano technology more hitting power more strike and spares hitting power at time Jr pro shop
Jungo, what surface do you keep your Fast Pitch at? The one you carry to all tournaments “just in case”
Haven’t changed the box surface, just keep it clean
If you only bowl League is this a ball worth having?
Do a updated bag vid with jimoo
Short pin Ebonite Destiny 90x1 3/8x60
I would be interested to know how the UC3 compares to the Hot Cell and the Original Purple Hammer
Hot cell was hot garbage lol. The purple was a sport monster. Anyone using purple on house shot is putting themselves at disadvantage. UC3 is a monster on sport and house shot. Best part is it doesn't carry down hardly at all because it flares so much
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball roto grip bowling ball
Short pin axiom is my go to ball for Short oil or burned lanes. It just rolls it’s life away and doesn’t jump at all
i honestly struggle when i have to switch to reactive so i'll get the UC3!!
Stand on the big dot and throw it at the gutter. It works 100 percent of the time except when it doesn't
So whats the benefit of having a urethane that hooks so much? Whats the real diff between an entry level reactive resin? Ive never used urethane so idk what its good for besides dry conditions
I haven’t really used my urethane to fully explain it but, the uc3 is basically supposed to bridge the gap between urethane and reactive, urethane is basically what I use on short patterns and such
Me binging through these because I am a beginner but also not really... I use a 12 pound Tropical Surge xD
DOESN'T COUNT!
Uc3 vs purple hammer please
I took a Hustle RAP and put a weak layout on it.
Filling a gap after my pitch purple and the carry down happens.
We need jungo to compare purple hammer to uc3 or maybe even pitch purple
How does it compare to the Pitch Purple? Since they’re both “urethane” but kind of bridge the gap between true urethane and reactives
the pitch purple is a reactive and urethane combo with a very weak core where this is a true urethane with an asymmetric core. they're totally different and this ball will for sure out hook it
@@ryanwilliams522 According to the company this is also a pearl+urethane blend. Not true urethane. And it shows from its reaction on the lane.
@@bowlingxp8345 if that's true, the purple hammer isn't urethane since it's a pearl as well. the UC3 shapes because it actually has a core whereas the pitch black or purple hammer for example reads the fronts and the walks it way into the pocket. the uc3 does the same thing, but it shapes due to the core it has. all i listed here is true urethane.
@@c0rruptedhusky Indeed the Purple Hammer is also not pure urethane. That's why the company calls it "Purple Pearl urethane". You seem to imply that the Purple Hamer doesn't have a core. You are incorrect.
@@bowlingxp8345 yes, i know it has a core, i should have clarified that. i'm just saying that the uc3 has a much BIGGER core. ph is 2.65 RG 0.013 dif while the uc3 is 2.49 rg 0.052 diff 0.012 int diff in 15#. the large diffirential plus the asymmetry makes it shape, as it's not as cover dominant as the purple hammer is
Your fast pitch is a bit shiny. Mine isn't. Do you think that is affecting it? Seems like yours is going longer than mine.
It was put back to box and then just a couple practice shots, oil just sits on it and makes it look kinda shiny
BRUNSWICK U-MOTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS VIDEO
Does this ball soak up oil or not as traditional urethanes?
There’s definitely some reactive resin in the coverstock. It soaks up a bit of oil for sure
How would you compare the UC3 to say a Pro-motion. Some would say the Pro-motion is a urethane like shape.
I think they can be used similarly but in different ways. However, the two balls are miles apart. UC3 is made to hook the lane but also has traction to handle carry down when people are piping up 10 with pitch black or purple hammer. It isn't effected as much by carry down and almost creates zero carry down itself because it flares so much. UC3 is a monster on almost any condition. I say that as someone who is a firm believer that reactive is ALWAYS better on house shot. UC3 flares a ton, has traction but still makes it up the hill with plenty of energy at the pins. There is nothing like a pro motion! Period. Easily one of my top 3 bowling balls of all time. I have won a lot of money in tournaments because of that ball. I have a Kentucky pour purple hammer that I've thrown maybe a total of 5 games in 3 years. Pro motion KINDA has urethane characteristics except it does it better and actually has energy at the pins. The best way to describe the pro motion is, it reads the lane not the oil. It is a good ball on almost any condition but it is not a stand left throw right kind of ball. I use my pin down promotion more than pin up because the pin downs main purpose is to counteract urethane. Reminder that pin down makes a ball LONGER and smoother, not shorter. I can move eyes and feet both inside. For example feet on 32 hitting 19 at the arrows, on a house shot. Keeps me inside of the carry down from people piping urethane down 5-10. If I do hit it, the pro motion isn't effected much because it reads the lane and not the oil. Until now, throwing urethane on house shot did nothing but put whoever is throwing it at a disadvantage. The UC3 is the exception.
Good ball for medium speed low rev stroker ?
Check out Tamer Bowling. They have a stoker on their test team and it did not look good for him whatsoever.
i think the idea of urethane and high tilt players isnt a great match up, if you dont have a lot of axis tilt, it would a great shape to have in the bag when lanes play tighter than normal or if you want to emulate the look higher rev players can have traditional urethane
I go with my pin down IQ Tour pearl to fill that gap. It usually gives me the look I'm going for in those conditions.
What did I do to fill that low end gap? Buy all of the balls apparently.
I modify release
Can we see a comparison vid of the Fever Pitch vs Purple Hammer???
Fever pitch is long gone
@@jrproshop
You guys never drilled one?
I would throw my entry level reactive with more speed
I am "rev challenged", so urethane has never fit for me except on stuff like Wolf or when a house shot is completely torched. For the dry/short stuff, I generally use a Hustle with crazy angle sums so that it lays off when it gets to the back.
Is this ball good for straight bowlers like me and don’t like a lot of hook?
Thanks I’ll wait for the Hustle USA review
Ordered the rhino magenta cheers
I feel like the racks come down really quickly
It is definitely not the "strongest." Strong is front to back. It is however the most flaring and most angular.
Sorry but the opening guy has a haircut from the Hunger Games
What is your layout on the UC3?
65x5x25
I have filled my gap with a trusty Fever Pitch
How was the UC3 at Gold Coast?
Umm didn’t use it there
@@jrproshop I thought the lanes had PLENTY of oil for it. Did you use Urethane? If so, which ball? Thanks
Pin down hustle ink, drill out all the core strength in a ball that has very little strength to begin with, and I got a step up from a fast pitch
Bowling ball review: “perfect bowling ball”
*quits watching*
I agree. The staffer hype boy stuff is usually annoying. However, this ball really is special. First urethane ball that doesn't put whoever is throwing it at a disadvantage on house shot. When reviewers say every ball is "perfect," it's hard to decipher when a ball really is near perfect.
Why is UC2 on thumbnail lol
Uc3 still the best urethane
You best put some rough on this one if ya get it! It’s more reactive late than early like a thane. I think rotogrip missed big on this one! Not for a stroker player at all!
Actually this is a perfect ball for people who want urethane but dont have the rev rate to get traditional urethane to pick up or speed to control the front part of the lane. If you have one im curious what layout you have on it, i went strong with mine and its been kicking ass lately.
Maybe if you throw it on the right condition, you'd have better results. Urethane definitely has a use, even for rev challenged guys, but that use is very specific. To think it's going be a versatile piece for your style is absolutely nutty.
I usually bridge the gap between urethane and reactive by using urethane to grind out 170 games 🥲
Nice video. But UC3 is not "urethane". It is a urethane/pearl blend. So all the "wow i didn't expect that much hook from a urethane", or "it hooks a lot for a urethane" comments, are really misplaced. Why can't we just call a ball for what it is ? Even Storm has it on the "pearl" section...
It's in the pearl section because it's a pearl urethane. They don't have a section for just urethane
@@aeikens1 Yes. Which confirms it's not plain urethane. Also the description confirms it, and their most recent video. They have the Pitch Black in the solid section. They could put up a urethane section , but....
@@bowlingxp8345 The pitch black is in the solid section because it's a solid urethane. The uc3 is in the pearl section because it's a pearl urethane.
@@bowlingxp8345 And there is no such thing as plain urethane. That would be like saying there's a plain reactive resin. What would you call the purple hammer then? It's a pearl urethane.
@@aeikens1 Curious. I could retort that there is no such thing as a "solid urethane". When urethane balls came out no one called them "solid urethane". Just urethane. Nowadays urethane is mixed with other formulas and creates blends. Purple Hammer is a "pearl urethane" like the UC3 is. At least that is what Hammer calls it. If you notice none of these balls are officially called just "urethane".
Looks reactive to me
Great another ball for people to blow up the lanes in league
It’s not the Purple Hammer for sure! All hype not ball!!! I threw it at a demo it’s sad! Rubicon did not deliver on this ball!
sounds like you are mad your a stroker player who cant control his ball motion
Not meant to be a purple hammer but ok
JR Raymond is boring AF to watch