Rishi's Polling is Tanking: Has He Lost Already?
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Despite a very small honeymoon boost, Rishi Sunak's polling is looking pretty terrible. Already Labour have reopened their serious lead and the new Tory leader isn't looking all that strong. So in this video we unpack what he's doing & why he's struggling
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The thing about the honeymoon effect is that after the 5th wedding it really stops feeling the same.
@@steviesteveo1 Maybe because the runner up has NO exciting new direction. Plus he couldn't even beat the lettuce Truss in the 1st place. What does that say about him? He is a WEF puppet. Remember he also worked for the banks when they collapsed that caused us austerity when 330,000 people died. And he earned big off it. Sunak is a snake that wouldn't pee on you if you where on fire.
I assume you are going from the diary of Henry the 8th.
best comment in this comment section
they are not conservative as long as they back far right demagogues like Suella Braverman
Hehe good analogy
David Cameron wanted to go down in history as the man who 'dealt with the European problem' and the champion of the tories, yet ironically might have actually set it on the path of oblivion.
... lovely.
Cameron is widely considered the only good PM of the last 30 years...
@@ammanus356 who by? Remainers hate him for allowing brexit to happen and brexiters hate him for being a coward and leaving as soon as remain didn't win, I'd argue no one looks at any PMs fondly right now except maybe the beginning of Blair before 9/11 and Iraq.
@@ammanus356 good joke
@@ammanus356 looool Liz, Theresa and Boris is very very low bar 😂
@@eolay4411 Also considered better than Brown or Blair
I would consider myself blessed to see humans make contact with an alien civilisation in my own lifetime. Realistically, I am highly unlikely to see this happen. All things considered, I will settle for the downfall of the Tories...
If there were extraterrestrials on earth then I'm sure the government be it Labour or Tory would find space for them in a four star hotel!
Neither option is very appealing.
@@thehound9638 His name is Dominic Cummings
@@Zenocius The government don't run the country, finance runs the country today! I imagine you think they're Conservative? Even after gay marriage, and so many other far left policies!
@@thehound9638 What would you prefer?
I'm praying this will be the end of the Tories. They've been a blight on our country since the poll tax.
Yes we need an actual conservative party not some idiots trying to outflank labour from the left. Even Starmer is tighter on immigration than the current tories, he literally said recently we need to stop relying on cheap foreign labour.
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer we really need electoral reform IMHO. That way we can have a plurality of views in parliament without the two main parties being overtaken by ideologues. Happens to Labour in past and Tories have been riven by marginal infights for as long as I can remember.
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer idk . Housing , housing housing and more housing . Nothing else matters nothing else is a real problem .
like chip on their shoulder labour are any better
same
Amazing how a single referendum has effectively broken the UK.
That's like saying, it's incredible that one tax destroyed the British Empire. It's a gross oversimplification of complex political turnover
@@jebus89 Very true
Many voted against it not because they were against it but against the government at the time, so there were already problems back then
You can give people power and direct democracy but not to a bunch of idiots like the British electorate
@@vistagreat9994 I’d say it’s more like saying Archduke Franz Ferdinand’s assassination signified the beginning of WW1. Oversimplification, but correlate impeccably.
“It could be the end of the conservatives” - I just got goosebumps as it sounds like someone has been reading my Christmas wish list.
totally, i think all political parties in UK will have to be dismantled before we seen any changes, what are the chances? Almost zero, therefore nothing will change.
I think this would inevitably have happened but the Tories sure didn't help themselves by ignoring national polling to appoint a lunatic instead and had to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving the (relatively) more sensible option a shot.
I wouldn't say Liz Truss was a lunatic. A weak and pompous idiot definitely but not insane. Also she didnt have to be dragged out of office, she actually gave up rather pathetically.
Well tories never believed mich in polling, they didnt in the before the election after ww2 where they were already behind labour party and then where stuned when the actual election Was similar
It's a problem of first past the post system where you get these big, wide in ideology parties that inevitably get hijacked by fringe sides because of the need to stay united.
@@zeytelaloi We have the governments we deserve.The electorate have been 'dumbed down' over the past thirty years or more.'played' by the establishment but deserved all they got.The constant clamour for more and more welfare caused both parties to 'compete with each other as to who could 'give' the most away.Our nation has become totally dependent on 'welfare 'in one form or another.Hence the situation we find ourselves in
People are better off claiming benefits than actually working.That why they are ambivalent about 'immigrants 'legal or otherwise.Either way this country is now on another massive 'learning curve'
@@MMMM-iw8or Is that a joke or are you actually serious about Hancock?
Honestly, it’s probably in Labour’s best interest to let the Tories be stuck in government for a bit longer, so the recessions is *thoroughly* tied to the Tories.
It would be good for Labour but not the rest of us
They'll just do what Labour did after 2010, they cocked everything up and then when the Tories won did nothing but blame the Tories for it. Same will happen but the reverse, endless cycle of shit
while I agree with you, it's one of those things where I really *really* don't think I can stomach another two years of "oh god what have they done now?" I don't agree with *everything* Labour puts out there, but I could at least take a break without worrying that the UK will implode or that we won't have enough money to pay our bills and put food in the cupboards. I'd much rather Labour get in ASAP so they can fix things ASAP.
Agree. The comedy is average Joe brit. Thinks something will change with labour
@@beast0339 "I don't agree with everything Labour puts out there" Good luck thinking a Blairite Labour will change anything.
It's no surprise, Tories will lose GE 2024 no matter which tory is PM at present.
You know what. Labour party are even worse
Labour will figure out a way to completely blow it. I say this as a loyal Labour voter.
@@iainl9725 I hate both Parties. They can all hang for all I care
@@aaronwilkinson8963 I hope they are, the destruction of the "conservative" party is necessary at this point, and a real conservative party should take its place
Yes but to whom? Not Labour surely?
I saw an interview with Sunak when he was chancellor when a woman told him that she was have to choose to between buying school shoes or eating, and he replied he totally understands where she is coming from. If that is the case I'm thinking perhaps being a multi-billionaire is not what it is cracked up to be.
He doesn't understand where someone like that is coming from in the slightest. That's the issue. Him and the rest of his Tory cronies all think the poor are workshy and nothing more.
I couldn't give two hoots about his personal wealth, Even less for his partners wealth. I care what decisions he makes and what policies he supports.
I couldn't agree more, why o why are mainstream media in such denial of the facts. I guess there are none so blind as those who will not see !
You should care about his wealth. He does. It goes down our taxes go up to cover his losses.
He can't decide gucci or prada, lobster or filet steak. He totally understands how hard making difficult choices can be.
Reminds me of an election here in Australia recently. In the state of Western Australia the conservatives lost so badly they only had 2 remaining seats, they were no longer the opposition as the The Nationals had 3 seats.
Say one thing for the conservatives, they managed to reach gender equity, albeit accidently haha!
All of Australia is right wingers anyways
And hopefully the same thing could occur in Victoria in a couple of weeks.
@@matthewparker9276 amen
Similar thing happened to Labor in Queensland in 2012 labour was down to 7 seats
Also reminds me quite a bit of the federal election. The Liberals got decimated haha
Something like this happened in Canada in 1993. The Conservatives, one of the oldest parties in Canada and one of the only two parties to ever hold power in it’s history, were polling this bad. Their outcome in the election was 2 seats. TWO seats. Leaving the Liberals in power with a majority and the Quebec separatist party as official opposition. Third place went to a far right western party, fourth to the social democrats, and they found themselves in fifth place with 2 seats only outnumbering “other” which had 1 seat (a conservative that was kicked out of the party due to fraud).
More please? I'm enjoying the best time of my life.
they did return to government just 13 years later...
@@proaaron578 they didn't. The PC party at the time stopped existing and merged with Canadian Reform and a few other parties to form the modern Conservative Party of Canada
The liberals then continued to screw the pouch
@@truedarklander The end result is the same.
Liz Truss scoring lower than Putin really puts things in perspective.
If only she was still leading the tories.
Will not be surprised if Liz Truss turns out is secretly sent by the russians or chinese to fuck over the UK, her effects to the UK are the equivilant of dropping an economic nuclear bomb
yep we still think we have the best system of governance, to the point of forcing everyone else to do what we do.
The Brits are putting on a big show
Keep going chaps
Love your courage and honesty.
😂☠️
Bally tally ho!!
Alright well have a go
it was probably our go at it
The UK made the European Union great again. Made French stock exchange the biggest in Europe, and moved capital and investments to the European Union instead of the UK. Thank you!
The EU will be greater still when it's a Eurocentric conservative loose confederation instead of a Globalist libsh*t superstate.
@DoubtingThomas The EU was all about big business! It was ok for them to pay less tax because they based themselves on Ireland but wrong for us to go to France and stock up on beer and tobacco! It was ok for them to import workers and pay a Polish wages whilst we had to deal with a British cost of living! If they hadn't taken the piss out of people then they could've kept their little club together!
@@thehound9638 Are you attempting imply that the EU is gone now? That their "little club" as you put it, is doomed because the UK left? Let's forget for the moment just how many special considerations/allowances the UK got and analyse how you seem to believe the UK to have been the linchpin for the entire EU. That is so incredibly asinine. Yes, the historically euroskeptic/xenophobic nation was the glue holding everything together! No way will they survive! Their little club is doomed without us crying about not getting our way over a new perceived insult every five seconds. It speaks volumes how you're biggest issues were to do with alcohol and tobacco. If you truly believe that, do us all a favor and stay in you're own little world. You really aren't that important.
@@UnderseaPumaKing You sound upset! The point is that we had to pay British prices despite big business not having to pay British wages or taxes! As for the EU, let's see how they manage this winter, Europe is nothing special to me. Just another foreign continent across the water! Even third worlders know how bad it is there because they walk through it and risk their lives trying to get to our island!
@@thehound9638 The energy war has already been won and EU has plenty reserves
Seems the Conservative parties strategy of being a gas lighting abusive partner to the public doesn't work very well when a growing majority of the country is starting to feel the consequences.
Worked fine when it was mainly only obviously hurting the poor since they could be readily demonised by the media but the working and middle class are feeling the pain now.
I don't think the Tories know any other way of ruling so hopefully the immediate pain will be rewarded with future electoral decimation.
Well said !
It also helped that they could blame the Eu.
@Suga Yup. Now everything is the fault of asylum seekers instead. It was a pathetic sight seeing Sunak addressing the CBI and telling them his main priority was a few thousand asylum seekers arriving in small boats when the CBI were telling him labour shortages were crippling their businesses.
I'm surprised they didn't just get up and walk out
@@davidwarburton-burley9967 yes after 12 years their blaming is beyond ridiculous. They have chosen a path of underinvestment and now we are all suffering the consequences. I would have no worries about Starmer being Prime Minister now. Truss's disastrous premiership is a very recent warning to any prime minister to not try anything stupid. Labour probably won't do anything very different to the Tories, but the Tories deserve to either spend a decade in the wilderness or to die completely..
It's not just that people are feeling the effects. I've been calling out the tory pattern of asset stripping & gaslighting for years now. Because of that I've had people accuse me of all sorts. The pattern is so established now though, that people who a few years ago wouldn't even entertain the notion of how absolutely corrupt & abusive the tories have been, can see it for themselves & have become part of the "anti growth coalition" that Truss kind of created out of her utter nonsense.
I hate to use this term, especially with how the notion of "wokeness" has been completely twisted around these last few years, but people are waking up. They're waking up to the BS. That's all being "woke" means really, which is why they've tried to demonise the term & misrepresent what it is. Wokies aren't IDPOL SJW activists. We're just tired of being lied to & ripped off.
He's kept his head down while everyone is asking for help and the average person is struggling.
He didn't, he went and spent money showing off his new swimming pool. That's Rishi for you in a nutshell.
He played a sizeable part in the reasons why people are struggling in the first place. Whilst he carries on living the high life.
You not received the "help" of 66 a month off your energy bills and an additional taxpayer subsidy of the cap?
I mean, when labour are saying "we need to control immigration" and the tories are saying "we want more immigration for economic growth" you know a big change is coming
See how desperate the tories are for growth and how bad the outlook must be for them.
@@paxundpeace9970 everyone on all sane wings of politics acknowledges you can't spend more money, take on more debt without also accompanying that with growth. The alternative is a serious recession
@@paxundpeace9970 even labour talk about growing the economy. Only economic radicals think growth is irrelevant
Interesting. UK conservatives are pro-immigration and socialists are anti. Complete opposite in the US.
@@phoenix5054 it's very unusual and very new
I feel like sacking Truss after such a short period of time will make some Tories fantasize about sacking Sunak... and then fantasize about sacking whoever comes after him. I feel like Truss set a certain precedent for impatience. She got 45 days to prove herself, and failed. Is that the new standard for how long a PM gets before the party is comfortable giving someone else a shot? Will serious questions started to be asked about Rishi this time next month if his numbers don't improve?
Oh hey J J. Yeah, this is going to be a f*cking disaster. Considering that the UK and USA tend to follow similar trends, I wonder if USA will thus reelect Biden by a landslide. Funny to think about.
I believe they're stuck with him until the next election, there is nobody else for malcontents to coalesce around except for Boris Johnson which I would say is very unlikely at this point. Fantasising is one thing but I think it's recognised in the party that Sunak is the least worst option for them until 2024, if the Tories lose I expect he would then resign/be ditched and the party will lurch further to the right again
Truss was an example of gross incompetence and delusion. Sunak hasn't made any catastrophic mistakes "yet".
@@drewbinsky8249 Only the mistake of not winning over the Tory membership in the first leadership contest, if he had taken over directly from Boris he might not be in such a precarious position now
The tories were so encouraging, they convinced me to join the labour party!
Oh how easily you are led!
My condolences
Will Labour return the rights for people and workers we lost over the years. If not then they are all the same. Will people be able to protest again without getting a criminal record...
to be honest I think Labour would be just as incompetent. What a sad, sorry state of a country we live in.
Starmers blue labour shadow cabinet are a collection of weat pathetic cowards, the only reason thet are doing well in the polls is because 12 years of tory rule has decimated this country. We are coming to the end of a road that a Thatcher put us on and Blair kept us on. Having two neo-liberal parties has caused a political imbalence, we need a positive alternative with a focus on labour rights a dealing with the rampant inequality thats destroying this country. Without a new voting system or a huge grassroots labour movement i just can't see it happening and things will just continue to get worse. The only thing that will change is how fast it will get worse. Meanwhile the media and public will instead continue with the ridiculous culture wars BS. Blind discrimination againts foreigners and LGBT+ people isnt going to fix the economey, pay our bills or solve the climite crisis. What a mess we've let ourselves get dragged into.
Labor won't allow dissent in the party and want to 'fix' brexit. They're controlled opposition led by Sir who has already bankrupted the party. Won't happen
Liebour are 10 times worse than the tories!!!
VOTE REFORM!!!!!
@@lbell9695 incompetent but less dangerous to our rights
Sunak needs to listen to that wise Indian man who said, 'Bullsh*t can get you to the top but it won't help you stay there.' If he'd got to be PM by genuine means he might have a ghost of a chance, but not much else.
classic gandhi
It's like that ancient Chinese proverb "man who sleeps with an itchy bum, wakes up with smelly fingers"
That wise Indian man never said this
The Tories are in a lot of Trouble. Much of their base and many of their poltiicians are far right but this is a small bubble that the general public is increasingly rejecting.
Nothing about the Tories is even remotely far right, they have a brown man as a leader and have had every single female PM in the countries history. Doesn't sound very far right
Why does the UK care about percentages in its polls if you have a FPP system? Just one additional vote above the next contender and you won the seat.
In an actual democracy percentages would matter but not in your system.
If you want italy, go and live there.
@@HShango Nope thanks. The German system does a very good job. We had 2 chancellors in the last 17 years and the representation in parliament was pretty accurate.
@@popelgruner595 Ok, so quit it with the FPP thing , since you're content with your german democracy then.
@@popelgruner595 As a Brit, I completely agree, even if the only parties I like are the Greens. I don’t trust Labour to fix the shithole that the Conservatives got us in, even if I’ll elect them over the Tories in a heartbeat. Elections shouldn’t be this contentious.
Interesting describing the UK as not an actual democracy in a video *about the governing party being expected to lose the next election*.
Percentages may not directly translate to seats, but it's incredibly obvious that a party that gets 50% of the vote is going to have more seats than a party that gets 25%.
You could, assuming you could move people around the country very precisely, and with the explicit point of having a stupid result, get a concervative victory, but you'd have to have some constituencies be entirely labor voting, and all the concervative ones won by a razor thin margin, which would never happen.
The electoral results are actually expected to amplify labors lead.
I didnt realize Speedruning was so popular in the UK
Truss’s run was pretty meta-defining but I’m very interested to see what sunak has to offer
If that did happen it would be interesting to see how quickly the Tories suddenly started coming around to the idea of Proportional Representation.
Scottish Tories love it
That’s why he went to Kyiv recently. Like Johnson he wants to get on the Front Page and wave the flag. It usually works - especially with the brexthickers. They like a flag.
I'd like to thank Britain for showing the world just how horribly harmful right wing conservative policies can be. Great sacrifice, you will be remembered
What policies are you referring to?
@@superdeluxesmell all of them
@@BeorEviols oh dear.
Only the people living in britain on benefits think that... the rest of the world are busy living in poverty. I think the main reason Lizz Truss's government failed is because the market realised that without Boris labour will win the next election.
If Boris formed his own party then the conservative party will literally disappear
You do know the current tories do whatever Labour party suggests just a few months later
It doesn't matter who they put in charge, its not going to change anything, the people want the tories out even if it takes 2 years
yeah as the Tories
yeah, through the UK into the lava they'll be known as the dead party
I don't know how the brits do it, there's always something hilarious going on, boris johnson flying back from vacations to save the country was my favourite episode.
Back in 1997 I thought, and hoped, that the Tories were finished, unfortunately like Dracula they always come back.
5:15. This isn't Sunak's fault???? Who are you trying to kid? Sunak was the chancellor busy shaking the magic money tree all through COVID.
What is he doing to recover the billions he gave for poor PPE and similar contracts?
He isn't going to let down his mates
All those billlions on dodgy PPE & track and trace still smaller in scale than what Liz truss achieved in a few weeks.
I for one am willing the demise of this horrendous party.
The UK really needs general elections.
Ye've had 3 in the last 7 years
I think we ought to adopt Australia's system of every 3 years.
@@Da1Dez I wouldn't advocate that. As an Australian, elections every three years (with the added possibility of snap elections before then) tend to create a lot of uncertainty and a short term policy mindset. I'd recommend four year terms - one thing I think the US has right
It would be great to have a "How We Got Here" video recapping videos like this in 2024 showing the Conservatives' journey from Cameron to the 2024 election
how are anyone now thinking of voting tory? you would have to be a millionaire or more dense than granite.
Or be more terrified on the alternative in Labour.
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer Let me guess, you read the Sun?
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer as i say, dense. well done for putting your hand up to show us. pillock
@@jujukawa8049 likely another bot.
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer so your willing to let your mortgage rates. Bills and the nhs waiting lists shoot up so long as the cunt in charge wears a blue rosette
I've had a Samsung phone for 5 years. I liked it a lot but always thought there were better options out there. So last year I bought an iPhone 13 Pro Max, but I hated the new ways of it, everything seemed to come at a premium and the options I had previously were vastly restricted. I sent it back.
This year I bought the Google Pixel 7 Pro thinking that stock Android would free me from the overly bloated Samsung version of it where I was constantly pushed to use the Samsung versions of things when I didn't want to. But then I found that Google didn't have the features that I had grown used to all these years and the phone lacked the streamlined efficiency of One UI. Google's version was buggier, and was missing things that I didn't even know I'd be without, or that I'd really miss, until it was gone. So I sent it back.
I have just purchased the Samsung S22 Ultra and I feel a huge sense of relief that I am back to what I know and love. It took the option of being allowed to branch out and then change my mind for me to realise this.
Anyway....a shame Brexit happened.
That was a rollercoaster 😅
Yeah samsung is a good phone brand.
I'm one of your American viewers, and really appreciate that your stories on your own government are mostly clear and easy to follow. Obviously, we've got a few political issues of our own right now. But it never hurts to know what's going on in other countries. That being said, there is still one thing I don't quite understand about your system. I see stories involving "shadow ministers". What role do they actually play?
EDIT: Thank you, to everyone who explained this to me. It now makes sense. I almost wish our government could do something similar, but I know they'd just find a way to screw it up. 🤠👍
The term 'shadow' refers to members of the opposition party that hold the similar 'office' to those in government.Hope that explains it to you.
Furthermore they have no power.
Basically the opposition's own version of the cabinet to show how much better theirs would be if they were in power
The idea is that the opposition is capable of taking over from the current government following an election. So they shadow the current holder of the position they would hold to observe. It also gives them a chance to criticise the current government and say that they would do a better job.
As others have said they are just MPs in the opposition party who have an additional set of responsibilities ontop of their MP roles. Shadow ministers will often directly question the government in parliament because they are the most well briefed, they'll do media rounds to explain the opposition stance on issues and might help form opposition manifestos and questions/motions. They don't have any official role in forming government policy. Their position within the opposition will mean they usually sit on the front benches in parliament and are closer to leadership so they're usually more senior members of a party.
It all started with Cameron. Never forget that.
Easily the worst PM
My takeaway: 26% of people are absolutely bonkers 🤷♂️
Imagine looking at this situation, and being like “I think the ghost of brexit past is the guy for the job”
1:43 Imagine hearing Lindsay Hoyle saying "The leader of the opposition, Ian Blackford!" lmao
I wish you'd clarified here like you have in previous videos that the 16 seat "prediction" isn't really a prediction. I'm pretty sure Martin Baxter (who runs Electoral Calculus) said himself at the time, as other analysts have said (eg Ben Walker) that it's not realistic for the Tories to only win 16 seats, it's just the outcome that's calculated with national swings this big, when the algorithms weren't built to handle them.
with the FPTP constituency model, essentially a party can get any number of seats ranging from 0 (although with over 50% of the popular vote you'd be at least 1 seat and the minimum probably goes up the higher you go) to a percentage of seats roughly double of their percentage of the popular vote (obv. capped at 100%), depending on how those votes are distributed.
Wow as a German I love uk politics at this moment in time. Oh what a time to be alive xD
Still better than German politics. At least one party have majority
@@cowublbetter? - better as in more entertaining (if you like vicious gladitorial combat) - or just better (more efficient) at destroying a society and a nation?
Really good show , appreciated.
The public elected Boris, the party elected Liz.... who elected Rishi?
As a Canadian, the issues that have been facing the British Tories remind me of what happened to Canada's Progressive Conservative Party (our version of the Tories). The PCs had been a dominant force in Canadian politics for decades, and from 1984 to 1993 enjoyed a strong majority in Parliament. However, the government ended up botching two constitutional amendments, implemented an unpopular tax, and failed to prevent an economic recession, and they went into the '93 election with an unelected PM. The PCs ended up being reduced to TWO seats in the House of Commons and the majority of Canada's right-leaning voters moved to the populist Reform Party, which eventually absorbed what was left of the PCs to become the modern Conservative Party of Canada.
Now, there are differences, to be sure. But seeing that our Tory party collapsed so spectacularly in just one election cycle, it is not unreasonable to believe that the same thing could happen to the British Tories if they don't do something to change course.
Is there a link to that Public First poll?
Well that's cheered me right up on a rainy day, nice one!
Last weeks budget mostly takes effect in 2025, when there will probably will be a new Labour government. Starmer has accepted the £55bn black hole... so if anyone thinks things will get any better after an election will be sorely disappointed. As long as the public debt pile is so massive, things will be pretty grim.
Except this isnt true at all if you check the budget most measures take place as of next year.
Someone cant read. The measures are time limited to 2024. Nothing of 2025 is mentioned at all
You should probably clarify that if there actually was an election where labour won 52% and the Tories won 22%, they would get far more than 16 seats. Whatever formula the electoral calculus uses doesn't work very well at high numbers like these.
Interesting that you decided to add the Reform party with 0 seats in the table but not a single one of the Northern Ireland Parties.
because they're only in Northern Ireland... They are never going to have idk more than 20 seats
Why would Sunak get a honeymoon when no one even voted for him LOL
Whoever expected that probably expected Charles to enjoy a honeymoon period lmaao
"The right wing let us down! what do we do now? Vote even more right wing!"
Which 'rightwing'government are you refering to? Not the present or recent past ones can be called 'rightwing' by any stretch of imagination.Cameron started the rot.Boris finished it.
@@thelink4492Oh poor boy you don't even know what conspiracy to spew out first? So what you were saying is you are a genderless terrorist pedophile is that correct?
@@sleepyblink1390 well you and your antisemitic conspiracys are certainly right wing enough
Facing such potential annihilation, couldn't Sunak consider changing the voting system from first past the post to proportional representation or Single Transferable Vote?
In theory yes, in practice no. Conservatives are still probably going to be the second biggest party due to FPTP, so I think until a party like the lib Dems gets a coalition or something and changes it (I'm surprised this didn't happen with Cameron, but I don't know much about the coalition), it's not happening, which is disappointing when the 2 big parties are shit.
@@meirl5700 But if polls show them at 20-something percent and projections show them below 100 seats, then they would mathematically benefit from proportional representation... 20% of 650 is 130.
@@ArturoSubutex I think it depends on whether they think in the long term (as in post next GE) or short term, because yeah your right in the maths but if they swap to another voting method (from now on I'm going to say STV but yeah other methods exists, STV is just the fastest to type and a good example of a fair one), I don't think they'll ever get the majorities they've been having for the past however long without coalitions because their voterbase will slowly be split between the UKIP hard right brexit enjoyers, traditional conservatives and the I hate labour but the lib Dems suck groups (which they United for the brexit vote); so it's either they swap to STV soon and accept theyll have to always have a coalition, or they suffer as opposition to labour for another ~10 years minimum and they return to having large majorities without a coalition, it's whichever the party (and more importantly, their donors that still probably want a 2 party system) prefer.
Also note I'm not a political expert, just my opinion.
@@meirl5700 That's true. I guess it's also a matter of how disastrous they reckon the next GE will be. Like if they're well below 100 and at risk of not even being the official opposition any more, the party might be threatened to just disappear unless they switch to STV. Also, MPs tend to like the idea of keeping their jobs in the short term, so whatever increases the odds of that happening... but this may be just wishful thinking on my part, idk
STV is a proportional system.
Think we Norwegians are not the only ones looking at this like the biggest shitshow in a good while. Feel like England are hamstrung.
This ACTUALLY happened in Canada, where the Reform Party led by Preston Manning took many Tory votes in the western praries, and they became Canada's new main Center-Right party.
The leader of labour comes across as central to right wing view's. Much like David Cameron. No shock he will poll well.
If labour want any chance at all in 10 downing street, they also need to absorb some tory voters, lib dem voters and (majority) labour voters to win. Otherwise we will get crap people like Rishi Sunak and his crap cabinet.
WTF are you on about, he can't even define what a woman is.
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer so a Tory MP can? My point was his views are not left wing and past Tory voter's will happily vote for more of the same.
@@HShango Lib Dems will take a lot of the older voters and Tories strongholds if it goes badly. Some people remember the 1970's Labour and will never vote for them.
Speaking as an Italian, from afar, it seems that BrItaly is real
British bunga-bunga parties don't sound nearly as sexy
The end of the Tory party doesn’t sound melodramatic. It sounds effing perfect.
In this dark world something like this gives us hope.
If they keep getting lower in polls, might this be the chance that a sitting government sees an opportunity in moving away from the FPTP system?🤔
*"This could be the end of the Conservatives."* There you go again, TLDR, getting my hopes up 😑
Great show
6:25 them bars
This sort of thing does happen in all systems but especially plurality systems. A party comes up with something particularly bone headed (but market tested) and 10% of their voters flee to a fringe party, 20% stay home and a handful vote for the other side to teach them a lesson, it can lose all of its seats. The voting bloc will reconstitute later in some form.
What about a wee vid about the Supreme Court judgement on the sovereign right of Scotland to make its own choices.
How can disposable income go down by 4% when energy prices are up 300% and fuel prices are up 80%? Clearly skewed figures
I’d be happy with Labour’s polling if only they stood for anything.
As an outsider, I really salute Sunak for filling on the hardest time of the nation... hope it will be easier for the next PM to fill in
He isn't brave, he's either/ or stupid or greedy. Nobody sane would take over such situation, unless there's something (big) in it for him/ her.
Its like a poisin chalice they are passing down the line. I just hope everyone gets a sip
I would have thought the polling drop is more to do with Jeremy Hunt’s budget than anything else. While not awful like Truss and Kwartengs, it’s still pretty bad. Not much hope for anything good coming along for a long time.
Go Labour 🌹
Rishi, no disrespect mate because it's not just you, but the Conservatives (and their various leaders) time is up and next election, your gonna lose like you did in 97 ok? Mates it is what it is and you have been in power snice 2010. Time for change Britain! :p
Here’s hoping.
Please make a video on canzuk opportunities and possibilities...
close to zero, dunno about the UK or Canada but there is zero desire at governmental level or a voter level for canzuk in Australia. Uk screwed over the country then abandoned us to Join the EU. Now they left the EU suddenly everyone is saying we should be best bud. I think Aus and UK should get closer and I am stoked about AUKUS, but Canzuk or anything close to is a dead as possible
Those from India treating him as a Saint would think differently had they lived in this country for the last twelve years.
I'm from India and I don't know anything about this guy, neither most of the people here except for the fact he's simply a Prime Minister of a difference nation called United Kingdom. That's it.
@@aaradhyarawat7589 Absolutely that could be so but Sunak has a legion of fans from India that are very loud however small they may be.
You can find them littering the comments of almost every video related to the man, especially on the PM's own UA-cam channel.
He is a saint, he will repay what churchill did to India long time ago
I’m sure Britain is such a hell hole compared to notoriously rich and developed India…
@@aranbutcher4655 nah but india was a prosperous place until British looted it into poverty.
India has come a long way after independence and is considered one of the most powerful countries after the USA, China and Russia, more stronger than the UK. Still India is developing and has a long way to become developed. But the fact is india is growing and will continue to grow.
How could the last labour government do this?
Its all that damn Jerry coarbims fault.
@@bt3743 corbin was actually something new
In the Canadian election of 1993, the ruling Conservative party went from 156 seats to 2, losing party status.
Thirteen years later, the Conservative, Reform, and Alliance Party (yes it was CRAP) was back in power.
Why would anyone want to be PM right now? Sunak is motivated by personal ambitions not for the improvement of the UK.
Sunak never actually won.
And the British ere the ones complaining about "unelected" EU officials.
Old Rishi Rish was heavily AstroTurfed by the media establishment because he was a corporate technocrat and first prospective minority Prime Minister. Now people have had time to hear him speak at length and know there's nothing there, not even charisma
Nobody gives a damn hes part of a "minority" group ( non whites are around 20% now so its not hard to see why)
@@ammanus356 Totally agree, the emphasis on it was jarring
The media does make you wonder what world they live in sometimes
No, Britain! You don't get a new prime minister already, you haven't even played with the old one!
but this one is broken!
Rishi's Run on the NHS needs to be stopped!
You in the UK, you should really stop trying to imitate our (Italian) politics. You lack the experience to avoid complete disaster, an experience we have been building through centuries...
I agree lmao, good advice too.
😂
Firstly, Rishi was never elected by the people; he was put in post by the MPs, like every Soviet leader in the past. Secondly, he keeps on spending taxpayer money while raising taxes across the board. Where I'm concerned, the Tory party is finished. Labour for me is also not an alternative, because they're just more of the same.
We live in a very similar society to the late soviets- an obviously broken and corrupt system that everyone agrees is f***ed but hasnt the imagination, courage or pragmatism to fix, reform or reconstute. The comparison is not direct, however we both share elements of "this is broken but what else do we have?"
If you think labour are the same (they definitely won't fix this but at least they won't crash the economy and leave us the taxpayer £30 billion out of pocket) then wake up.
Lib dems are not any better.
how are they more of the same? are you mental?
Both sides are the same derrrpppppppp.
You elect a party, not a prime minister.
Rishi's roll is like a Doctor , he will give bitter medicines to patients(i.e- UK and there peoples) but they are not ready to take those medicines!
long time no see
Brexit supporters are disappointed they're pursuing a swiss-type deal. Nigel Farage has described this government as betraying Brexit.
It's interesting how Reform UK are not actually able to win over significant number of conservative voters. In fact, I think some would rather just allow a Labour government.
Because reform will never form a gov
Liz Truss had the right idea in cutting taxes to encourage investment and growth. Various forecasts predict a loss of government revenue as a result of Jeremy Hunt's tax hikes as high earners flee the UK.
The rich don't pay enough taxes to benefit us anyway. I won't fight to keep them here.
We are all thinking the same question. Where IS the hot blond guy? We need some eye candy when hearing bad news.
Ever since Rishi was Boris's lacky during the dark years he has not been popular.
If Corbyn was in charge of Labour then guaranteed Tories would be polling 60%
To be honest, I think the tories would still be behind in the polls if Osama Bin Laden was in charge of Labour at the minute.
Sunak was honest enough to say solutions to UK's problems will be painful. He will lose the election, but at least UK got a PM who did honest work for the nation and not just for the party.
Absolutely baffles me how 22% of people would have still have voted for truss
Yes.....
After the Tories crashed the economy and took the UK out of the EU, they ditch it with an Indian guy and flee.😂
Maybe divide Great Britain into rectangular countries as well, while they’re at it.
Racist clown.
@@ammanus356 pointing out a fact,. Your only defence is to spew racist. I think we know who is a clown🤡
He looks Indian but he was born in England and his parents are from East Africa.
@@ruairievans might want to read an Indian paper to educate yourself
Putin should run for the job.
...there
General Election NOW, and bring in PR.
Oh, and re-nationalise the water and rail companies.
Despite Truss unsuitability to lead, her down for was orchestrated by the media class, the city of London and the mostly left wing Tories that were behind Sunak's rise. Sunak on the other hand has had a comparably favourable run, as all those factions see him as their candidate of choice. The fact that he has fallen so quickly despite his allies propping him shows he is not leadership material.
He literally the liberal elite pick, actual conservatives hate Rishi because he's outflanking labour from the left.
You just spoke my mind and this is not the end as I'm preparing my own in form of articles as against recording a video. Have a nice day.