Shooter stops police seizing his guns
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2022
- Are British shooters too obedient? Armed Devon & Cornwall police officers have been turning up at shooters homes, often during darkness, and seizing their guns. Many of these shooters have had their guns for decades. One of them also servces on the regional crime squad. But whil most shooters agree to hand over the guns and surrender their certificates without a fuss, Chris Hart from Plymtree successfully saw off the top police who came to his house.
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I like how they keep disarming everyone who not doing any of the shooting. While actual criminals are running around armed despite what ever law.
They wouldn’t dare..
Laws are for losers
kinda like how the Democrunts are turning people loose from prison
Its so hard to capture actual criminals you bigot
That's typical of a tyrannical government.
Imagine seizing people’s cars because one person, you don’t know or never met, drove drunk. They are using this type of thinking to seize firearms from law abiding citizens based on one person’s actions.
Let them try we will be glad to spank the fed government like we did at Ruby ridge. Dems never learn the more they talk guns the more they get spanked
But cars are dangerous. I dont feel safe driving one in a legal safe manner, i might kill myself or others accidentaly. therefore no one should be allowed to drive ever.
This is blatant discrimination!
@@lancevance47 I'm hoping you are being sarcastic, because my sarcasm detector isn't working right now.
Imagine someone stealing a car and then driving over someone with it leading to cars being restricted.
"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson
Good quotes right there
Says the slave owner, you must be quite deluded if you think America was based on freedom when Britain had to literally force you to end it but not only that you had to fight a Civil War to make it happen
This is the one i was looking for right here
You realize this is the UK, right?
@@CoinsAndCapsaicin yeah, why do you think we fought a war with them, to avoid stuff like this.
"Man Defends Himself from Gestapo" is what the autocorrect changed to the current title.
If the government says: "You don't need a gun"
YOU NEED A GUN
It doesn't matter if they are trying to install tyranny right now or not, if they take your guns they can do it whenever they want without fear.
Citation : the 20th century
Every government before genocide
Multiple* guns
Why would you tell the police that you had a new illness ?
This video outlines perfectly what it's like to be a subject & not a free person. "But are we too obedient?" Yes. Yes you are.
This is exactly what made people run to America all those years ago in the first place, now I understand what an American citizen means when they say they're free
Watching my fellow europeans measuring freedom by the amount of free healthcare or other benefits breaks my heart
Australia is the same, it's a really shit state of affairs.
@Humphreys
In the rest of the world, people fear police raids. Over here, police fear doing raids on the people. There's not a more dangerous thing, than trying to disarm one of the 135 million armed U.S. citizens for no reason other than tyranny. We laugh at imbeciles like Nanci Pelosi and Joe "can't find the entrance to the White House" Biden.
They will never successfully oppress the U.S.A. I literally put my life on it, as any good citizen should.
@@fabian-mihaistefan5369 Look at Australia. Do you think what's happening there now would have happened before the government seized all firearms? I don't think so. Also, once you give up a right to the government, you lose the ability to not give up a right. People comply with the police regardless of their authority or lack thereof, and now, if you don't immediately submit and assist the police with any request, legal or not, you're "confrontational".
@Humphreys
In the last 120 years, government-sponsored genocide is the second leading cause of preventable death, just behind the Spanish Flu of 1918. War takes distant third place.
Imagine having to talk to the police about anything without a warrant
Common misconception.
Police don't always need a warrant to attend an address and use reasonable force to gain entry, under certain circumstances they can do so without a warrant, see Section 17 of PACE.
FFS you sound like an American - go and live there with a red hat and vote for trump. Your opinions are neither welcome here nor representative of the views of the sane part of society.
@@spikefunakoshi5667 what education haha
@@BadgerBobNot sure about the UK but cops in the US explicitly do not need to know the laws as long as they think they're doing the right thing. "Qualified immunity" they call it.
@@spikefunakoshi5667yeah you need a degree.......
Reagan had it right, the 11 scariest words you can ever hear are "I am from the government and I am here to help"
People love to forget, but Reagan was one of the most anti gun presidents we've ever had.
This is why you shouldn't let government record and control you firearms.
Yup. In theory, I'm for licensing, but in reality, this ALWAYS ends up happening, every single time!
@@wilfdarr agreed. Background checks are the same way. It's nice to limit how criminals can get guns but it creates a stepping stone to control and unjust restrictions on the people
@@big-d7756 Honestly, background checks are useless: no criminal is going to submit to a background check, and no crazy is going to go to a shrink (that's where this bloke made a mistake: great, you're diagnosed with [autism], there's no cure so...why!?). In fact they discourage fun owners from seeking mental health professionals.
The reason I like licensing is that that it's a very useful tool for Guns and Gang units: any hint of an unlicensed gun gets a warrant. But then they abuse it. I wish I had a good answer (my neighbors house had 5 bullets put into it when I was a kid, so this topic is very personal to me!).
@@wilfdarr 96% of gun crime in America is committed by Illegal weapons, and about 80% are done with guns smuggled in through our Southern Border. Gun Control should have ZERO to do with any legal gun regulation or legal gun owners. It should be about enforcing and securing our borders. When Trump was in office, illegal gun smuggling from Mexico was at an all time low as was illegal entry. The Biden completely reverses every single good border protection Trump enacted and we are right back to square 1 with illegals and fentanyl coming in by the boat loads.. Ukraine's border seems to be FAR more important than our own!
not only firearms bruh
"When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is freedom"
- *Thomas Jefferson*
Thanks for America.
Yeah buddy.
America is under tyranny rn.... but I dont fear the ATF, they are weak minded terrorists
Yet the police all over the world are payed by the government making freedom impossible
Not everything said by Jefferson is intelligent. If only he'd made it rhyme.
As an American, the title of this video implies a lot more than a polite conversation
This is what i was expecting.
Everytime I see one of these stories I thank my lucky stars my ancestors fled that tyranny. But my heart still breaks for everyone who is still a subject, and not a citizen
EXACTLY the CORRECT DISTINCTION! (Signed, your Canadian neighbour.)
If the damn cops keep pretending they're different from the population
they will wind up being separated from the population
Get off your high horse yank, you lot are one to talk about “tyranny” 😂
@@Chineseconcrete at least I can shoot a mute swan in my country
Free by choice, and 'subject' by choice.
Yeah, are you FINALLY starting to see why we fight tooth and nail to prevent exactly this type of overreach here in America? THIS is why we defend our Second Amendment rights!
Average gun owners in other countries dont have military grade weapons. Americans dream of owning 50cals
@@diggerlenny4836 You're ignorant. You also wouldn't know a "military grade weapon" if I was beating you over the head with one. Tell me Lenny, what is a "military grade weapon?" You act like a .50bmg is a wmd or something, it's just a big bullet.
@@diggerlenny4836 we don't have military grade weapons. We have better ;) and 50 cal is completely legal and even higher calibers. Still won't take them
@@diggerlenny4836 And your problem with that is ?
@@diggerlenny4836 that's because we're a different breed, cut from a different cloth. You just wouldn't understand
If that guy had written the firearms on his certificate himself he'd have been in a world of trouble. Sounds like an attempt at entrapment.
having worked for the govt sounds like a typical cock up more like.
My thought too. If they then don’t declare them all, it justifies the police to ban one from owning guns. Wake up people, the government don’t want people owning guns!
@@TheNinja691 he got a blank certificate and he contacted the issuer..i once had a uniform that had different rank markings between one sleeve and another and the button holes and buttons not in a matchign pattern
@@vanpallandt5799 I've never had experience with the British government, but from having had plenty of experience with the American government, it sounds like someone giving very poor advice because they don't know laws that they absolutely should be familiar with, considering that it's their job.
Honestly, from all of my experience with various local, state, and federal government agencies in America, I'm just very impressed that you guys can get a human on a phone to speak with.
@@scottcantdance804 well, of the 2 incidents mentioned, clearly send it back was the appropriate advice
"Look how obedient we are! Why would you take our guns?"
Because they are AFRAID !!!
If you are legal, licensed and transparent in this country the authorities will find a way of making your life difficult. Where as if you are not legal, licensed and transparent you can get away with driving offenses, firearms offenses trading offences etc etc.
Our police need to start focusing on criminals and less on the legitimate!
I can attest to that. It's a shambles.
I'm afraid in this day and age...it is the Police who are the criminals
@@LandersWorkshopand you guys ruined our country Canada By forcing those same laws and traditions But were Right BESIDE FUCKING AMERICA
Gun laws in other “free” countries blows my mind. Long live the second amendment of the US Constitution!!!
Yes!…This shows the danger of any registration or giving in to “common sense “ regulations
we are not far from this with red flag laws and other ATF garbage
They can only do what we let them do we have the power #taxrevolt they are nothing without our tax dollars
@@darltharp525 Too bad they help themselves to our paychecks anyway, and when that's not enough, well.... money printer go 'brrrr'.
@@darltharp525 isnt that a US tradition?
I’m more concerned with the authorities having guns than members of the public to be honest. Still not convinced that 99% of “ incidents “ aren’t false flags to get the public sympathetic to more restrictions.
The whole society is a psyop, so no doubt. The state destroys everything, so that democrat types will call for help and conservative types will call for more order.
See: Operation Northwoods. A CIA plot, from the 1960's, to commit acts of ter or rism on American soil against American citizens to garner support from the American people to invade Cuba.
Look up Thomas Hamilton, the 1 who allegedly committed the "Dunblane massacre".... Freemason! you can't make this stuff up. People are programmed & mind controlled they can't fathom how evil those in positions of power/authority are, the scary thing is the new world order is real & they hv a plan for everyone & it's evil.
@@johnfrancis5673 There's people like us who see it. The remnant is everywhere.
operation northwoods
Don't open door.
If they open the door, then they are armed intruders,
TERMINTE THEM NO MATTER WHAT COSTUM THEY ARE WEARING.
Don't care what country you are in, this holds true no matter your location.
Fight for your rights, stand up for them. People will violate your rights if you let them. Be clear and let them know that your rights mean more than their life.
I’am so so sorry you have to go through all this.
"Those who trade a little bit of Liberty for safety, deserve neither."
- Benjamin Franklin
So everyone knows, and not meaning to argue or insult- The exact quote is “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”.
@@chriskelso723 thank you for the correction. I had always heard the paraphrase of the quote
I love that quote, every anti 2A liberal should have to write out this quote 1000 times in a row like in grade school.
@@chriskelso723 that statement rings truer today than ever before
@@martinsonofwar395 and didnt bother to look up the exact quote, you just decided to keep spreading false quotes... how classy.
"MOVE YOUR FOOT"
"No"
Anything after that point should have been dealt with as a home invasion and nothing less.
Here in the colonies, the home/gun owner would most likely not prevail in court, before a liberal Judge. F’n sad really.
RESEST! We will not comply!!!!!
The problem is police has been given too much power and authority over people worldwide, this needs to stop, a campaign against this over reach of power needs to start, it will get a lot of support just make sure to leave BLM and ANTIFA out of this cuz they screw everything LOL.
Never open the door for police or answer any of their questions unless you called them.
How do you propose an unarmed subject (not a "citizen") confront officers with badges and guns at his door? There's no way to win that confrontation -- except by words and logic and a free press.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Don't answer the door. Stick some headphones on. If they have a warrant, you will find out soon enough heh. If not, then they won't be entering. If they do enter without a warrant, you didn't hear them and you sue them for property damage and emotional damage.
perfect definition of Subject vs Citizen.
They need to stop thinking they have the right to put their foot in someone's door because they are desperately trying to arrest someone so their boss gives them brownie points
“Are we too obedient?”
The fact you’re explaining needing permission and special cards to own a firearm, at the pleasure of the police. Yes I would say obedient is one word for it.
You do not disarm your friends or allies only your enemies or victims.
just like their common wealth brother Canada.
@@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968 Damn, I like that one, gonna have to use it.
I am just an ordinary member of the public, and I want it to be as hard as hell for people to own guns in the UK. I want to be able to go about my life without fear of being shot. How many people in the USA can say they have no fear of being shot, shot by accident, shot by the Police, shot by mad people. The US Constitution has created a nightmare that American's have to live with. The ultimate loss of freedom and democracy is being dead.
@@ansilumens1444 The vast majority of US citizens can easily say they have no fear. the gun isn't the problem its the people behind the gun. I wouldn't want to go to most cities in Britain due to the risk of being stabbed by thugs. A 5ft woman in the states has a greater chance to defend herself with a fire arm then a 6ft guy in Bristol or London without one.
Should someone have the right to defend themselves and their family from a direct threats to their lives or should we give that up for unwarranted feelings and an illusion of safety
Id argue if you lost your right to defend yourself you lost your right to life and by your own words lost your freedom and democracy
Funny how they claim "we can still own firearms! we just need licensing!" and then the British Government can just declare the license null and confiscate them!
Happens in America too, it's not remarkable
Almost like that’s the only reason to have licenses and list of lawful gun owners.
@@Ozhull yeah theres just not a gun register ao the atf just raids you and takes all they find
You know why? Becouse humans in general are verry unpredicteble.
Funny how taxation is theft.
I mean, if your lucky enough to have the ability to actually acquire a firearm in the UK and your actually insane enough to think you can do it and do then your unstoppable.
Control through fear from those that are in fear because you can't stop people from being people! Laws never have and never will stop the actions of bad people!
@Active Security Officer If someone is in the act of violating the law... It makes no sense that someone like that plays by the rules! Gun laws is solely meant to control those that follow the law! Just like the only reason to register guns is so they can taken away some other date!
@Active Security Officer Control through fear! Basically: if you break this law and we catch you - it's not going to be a good time had by all!
But does deterrence really stop the crime! No...
But when you disarm good people on principal that it's for a greater good... You are in fact lay down the foundations for a criminal state! Because anyone with taste for blood will flock to where they fully know - they are the only ones armed! Which is why so many cowards take their harm to schools and public arenas... It breeds a society of victims... "Don't dare protect yourself - we can do it - so in case of emergency - call an operator, stop to explain, so we know where to collect your body!" Our leadership is all protected by gunman! Our law enforcement relies in guns to assert their authority! We have thousands and thousands of men and women performing drills and training in uniform... As a standing army to protect our country - with guns...
Please, please, please! Believe me when I say this issue has NOTHING to do with safety, health, or protection... It is entirely about control and the counter measures to ensure those controls can be force totally undeterred!
When you surrender rights in the name of peace and safety... You will never get safety or know peace... History has taught that lesson many, many, many times... But that requires knowing history!
Because most of the time... It's someone that is so sure that they can make things work and be different... With the greatest of intentions... That are actually living outside of reality! That do more harm than any weapon...
Examples: Spain, the Scottish, the Celts...
The Native American Indians! Heck, the once last surviving member of the Hawaiian Royal family! When she passed away - she was still under military custody - and never did ANYTHING!
@Active Security Officer Laws to disarm it's people - is against the Bill of Rights! Which laws are we following?
I so feel for my fellow sportsmen in the UK. This is why we are heels dug in in the US on every firearms issue that comes up. Hell no!
Give them a inch and they will give you a mile
Would be a hoot to have our government try to take the millions of guns that we are contitutionally protected to own...they forget that it's actually a "God given right
@@guy1234484 way to quote a made up statistic. Do you realize that 99 per cent of "mass shootings" are gang and drug related? Doesn't exactly fit the narrative portrayed by the insane Leftists.
Run along kiddo, this is an adult conversation.
Heels dug in. No surrender.
95% of people who don't like your guns have never handled or used guns. I won't bend to npc simps.
It’s so weird watching this stuff in the UK while being American.
This kind of unreasonable harassment is exactly why people here are so against a firearms registry.
State run offices make mistakes all the time, and at least here people really don’t take kindly to police knocking on their door accusing them of crimes they didn’t commit, mistakes like these can cost lives unnecessarily.
They’ve got no business having this information, everyone should have the right to be in possession of an equalizer
It's due to a recent mass shooting over there. There's no doubt about it some people shouldnt have guns because of mental health etc. It ultimately destroy all of our rights. But these people seem like normal law abiding people.
@@briankelly8297 when a Law Effects all it’s for control not for safety. They use events to justify their grip on citizens
@@Genokiller1989 speeding laws effect all, though?
@@vanpallandt5799 A drivers license is NOT a right here in America. It is a privilege that can be revoked. The 2nd Amendment CANNOT be revoked. And actually, ANY restriction on gun ownership is against that Constitutional Right! Educate yourself.
@@kentuckyhiker7071 i am British...this is a UK thread you are commenting on. And wasnt the Volstead Amendment revoked? Surely an amendment is just that..a change. I would be interested if its written somewhere that the 2A is irrevocable
Interesting that the people who care not about the process aren’t being pressed for their firearms.
This is the type of things that makes a man get guns and fight the government
“The military don’t start wars. Politicians start wars.”
--William C. Westmoreland
Myanmar...
ww2 japan:
Kwantung army would beg to differ
The military are who owns the literal politicians lmao. You are new here yeah?
@@matthewcurry3565
Imbecile. The industrialists who manufacture the equipment and supplies for the military and the investors and financiers who stand to make a killing during war own the literal politicians. The military, by nature, is a hierarchy that depends on orders, from the lowest private to the Chief of Staff. No orders, no action. The Elites aren't soldiers; they're Movers and Shakers.
sad to see your government doing this, but love seeing yall fight back.
Fighting results in injuries or death.
Don't see much of that happening.
@@ctom4932 ... to think that in order to fight back there has to be death on one side or the other is plain retarded. Civil disobedience is a great way to protest and fight back. Harm to others is a last option when dealing with a tyrannical gov.
thank god for our 1a and 2a here in the states!
@@grimace8560 Gun owners in America are the largest threat to the government’s monopoly of control over the populace. Our existence, equipment, and morals are direct threats to them, they will never cease their infringements until we are dead. Why limit oneself and play along in their unfair game of “civility”?
@@americangoy528 agreed until you say " they will never cease their infringements until we are dead" I don't agree,. people are getting fed up on all sides, mad so they hopefully get off their tribal lines and... blah blah blah better people in office that represent the people in their area and not the gain of wealth of the person in office or to get reelected again.
and if the government starts a war with its civilians than yes, civility is out the door, and than optics don't matter. but i hear what your saying
We have to dispute very carefully, even a small amount of aggression or belligerence towards authority can result in revocation of a licence, gun owners have to be the epitome of model citizens.
Food production: Outsourced/regulated - Water: Outsourced/regulated - Energy: Outsourced/regulated - Personal Security: Outsourced/state run - Transport: heavily taxed/regulated by the state. You guys over in Europe must really trust your government, the people in charge must be Saints to garner such faith.
For foreigners like myself, an RFD (Registered Firearms Dealer) is the equivalent of an FFL (Federal Firearms License) in the USA.
As an American I find this absolutely mind blowing. How people don’t see the regulation of firearms as a great evil I’ll never understand.
@@nerios.v Very true. Well put imo.
Really? Then explain this...
Militia is illegal as the police state has replaced the free state, the privilege of citizens 21 years of age who are mentally sane and non-felons may keep but never bear the small arms the government deems acceptable, this may be altered by legislation whenever emotions run high, or government feels threatened.
@@AustinFloorguy militia in the US is NOT illegal. What are you saying?
As a British civilian, I am proud to be able to walk in the city, for my child to go to school or go to a cinema without the fear of being a victim of a massacre shooting.
@@korgscrew2000 the probability of being a mass shooting victim in the US is remote, it’s incredibly incredibly small. Mass shootings get a lot of attention in the press because it sells newspapers and advertisements… however the odds of being in one are completely remote. Uk people seem to think they happen all the time it’s ridiculous
"Someone who takes away your guns is planning to do something you would shoot them for". __Stewart Rhodes
100% harsh facts
@@sebittyseb4481 nope, not at all. You guys are just paranoid criminals. (I call you criminals because you're the same type of people who say they will refuse to comply with any gun ban s)
the britts are soft as sh-it... i dont know why but next time germans come they will bow to um or the russians.... so sad to see this happening today with the britts
the most yikes thing ive seen today. Go suck on your barrel for the rest of us please.
Oh yeah a officer takes your guns by law now you have the right to shoot and kill every fucking cop😂😂🤦🏼♂️
"Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."
If I had been the one guy with blank paper I wouldnt have said crap and just went and got 4 more guns with no one the wiser. Disarming yourself is something you should never feel OK about. Your responsibility to be ready for the fight never ends.
A mistake on behalf of the state - whether willfully or unknowingly - should never equate to a private citizen having to relinquish property or diminish their rights.
In the UK, they're not citizens. They're subjects of the crown.
@@lennychorn147 All people are just cattle to their state, in the eyes of the state. Doesnt matter where you go. They need to be reminded that we're human.
Oppression and government theft !!!!!
@@markmywords5342 To a point you are correct. But some nations have a lot more tools at their disposal, for citizens to stand against government overreach.
@@lennychorn147 Yeah true but as we're learning, there's not as many tools as we were led to believe.
4:55 They were trespassing by refusing to wait outside and not block your doorway. Of course, if you attempt to lawfully eject them they'd arrest you for assault. An escalation technique.
Here’s actual police Injustice
The fact that they were trying to take his weapons because of a diagnosis of autism is pretty insidious.
People always say that America is crazy for letting people with mental health conditions own weapons. But if you open that door, it would never stop.
First it's serious mental health conditions like psychotic disorders. Then it's disorders like PTSD, then anxiety disorders, and depression, and diagnoses of someone being on the spectrum.
And if you look at America as a whole, that covers a huge percentage of the American population.
A lot of those diagnoses aren't even accurate, because if you get a referral from your primary care physician to a psychologist or psychiatrist, they have to put a reason, like a suspected diagnosis, for insurance purposes.
And then to treat you with insurance coverage, a psychologist or a psychiatrist has to pick a diagnosis. Otherwise there's no medical need for your treatment, and it won't be covered.
Whenever there's a shooting that involves an ex-soldier or someone along those lines, and it comes out they have PTSD, I always encounter tons of people saying that it's crazy that we allow people with PTSD to own weapons.
To them, I always ask the following; what about a woman who has PTSD because she was the victim of a brutal assault, and she wants a firearm in order to protect herself and take back some control of her life?
It forces them into a position of empathy for that woman, or into a position of being blatantly heartless towards a victimized woman. It's also a useful example to point out that just because someone has PTSD, doesn't mean that they are violent and dangerous.
Revoking people's inalienable rights because of a medical condition is ridiculous and insidious. If people have rights revoked, it should be because they committed crimes that infringed upon the rights of others. Not because of a medical condition like depression, anxiety, or PTSD.
I also got into an argument with someone recently who thought I was crazy for thinking that we should "let blind people own firearms".
I had to explain to them, and encourage them to look it up themselves, that blind people *ARE* allowed to on firearms in America, just like everyone else is, unless they have some type of criminal acts on their record that prohibit them from firearm ownership.
I also then had to explain that the government doesn't "let" people exercise their rights in America.
We are not *given* rights by a supposedly generous and benevolent government. *We have them by default.*
Another 1 they do when there are several of them & they want to bully someone is stand on the victims foot, the natural reaction is to pull it away, when they do that, so they have an excuse to jump on you & they call it resisting! vile, evil & not at all the honourable/respectable institution most ppl believe they are.
@@scottcantdance804 That was in 2016. This call by the police was because a shooting happened somewhere else. A shooting happens in a town, and the cops in surrounding towns want gather up the guns for 'safety'
Trespassing isn't illegal in the UK, it's a civil offence. You can legally use force to eject someone but when it comes to police it'd be a pain in the arse going to court for it
Make no mistake! They want your guns.
We have a firearm certificate in America as well. It's called the 2nd Amendment and it's a right not a privilege.
"A free man shall NEVER be debarred the use of arms" - Benjamin Franklin
No, the 2nd Amendment USED TO BE a right. Now the guns we're "allowed" to have won't do a thing against the government today. Americans are too soft to fight for their rights when all other avenues of redress have been extinguished.
@@nukepuke932 that's not true but ya know
And we will Die for it if Necessary!!
@@nukepuke932 I don't think so... when pushed we will push back.. Give them the Bullets First!
When Benjamin Franklin and Karl Marx both say the same thing, they're probably right.
When you disarm the law abiding, only the criminals stay armed.
That also includes the special gangs called the police.
WRONG!
That includes the criminal activity of the goverment
Thats what they want. It's a cycle of violence that gives police more power.
Criminal kills people > Police seize legal guns > criminals stay armed...repeat.
@moonshine 143 of course I'm goanna be okay with law saying that I shouldn't murder random people
British police man says "we want to look after your weapons "
Policeman here: it's good to stand up for yourself, know your rights and do so in a civilised manner. Sometimes processes are incorrect and decisions wrong. This well made video and the experiences involved are sensible and put the wrongs right.
The bit about "armed police" attending and being "fully geared" is rather inconsequential, while they are armed police, this simply means they're trained in firearms handling and therefore can handle, make safe and transport guns, unlike regular bobbies.
While I mostly support police, you lot really should take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are entitled to remove a persons God given rights, such as the right to free speech and the right to defend one self. Police in most of the world have never taken that look in the mirror and it sadly shows in our society. I think the world would be a much better place if every police officer decided tomorrow not to enforce tyranical laws against expression and self defence
Armed citizen here: fook off copper
Those are not "mistakes". They are future reason to confiscate your weapons.
I've literally just had this with Lancashire Police
Whenever I see reporting like this from our brothers across the pond, I'm am absolutely blown away by how timid and subservient the population is over there.
From a pepole who once conquered most of the world no less
They have turned into a bunch of sniveling cowards overseas and they used to control half the world before America kicked their asses in the Revolutionary War. It is sad how far they have fallen and how they praise their owners for it because they are technically slaves with no say in anything.
@@waderyun.war00034 1812 is when we really kicked their ass.......the Empire never recovered from the retraction they did during WW2
They have a queen lmfao what u expect
I can post "fuck the president " I bet you won't say fuck the queen if you live there. Ill wait....
Some advice from across the pond for all of you fellow gun owners: "I am sorry officer but I lost all my guns in a recent boating accident"
straight to jail for not reporting it lol. England is garbage for gun rights
When someone is killed by a driver does the government restrict the rights of every driver? No because it would be irrational, and amounts to collective punishment, so why does this happen to gun owners every time? Collective punishment is a punishment on a group for acts allegedly perpetrated by a member of that group. Because individuals who are not responsible for the wrong acts are targeted, collective punishment is not compatible with the basic principle of individual responsibility. Collective punishment is prohibited by Article 3 of the Geneva Convention.
Isn’t it amazing that criminals don’t give a damn about the law but law abiding citizens get punished!
This is the bit that really sticks out for me. These laws only control the actions of law abiding citizens, while the bad guys do as they please and cops are starting to look like a high vis spec ops team.
it's because the law is not just, it only benefits the oppressors. and as the law keeps changing you're still going to keep abiding by it ain't you? That broken law abiding talk is why the brits are overseas doing knife to knife combat like they are in the 1400s.😂
criminals that don't give a damn about the law get punished for it. Law abiding citizens do not get punished.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 That was an award winningly cool story bro.
@@M3rVsT4H Thanks, it was inspired by your incredibly insightful fresh new take on the old classic 'criminals don't care about the law' line. Hey Merv did you know that criminals break the law but law abiding people don't?
And that's why firearm registrations are dangerous and why us AMERICANS fight really hard to prevent that from happening here
YEAH I HAVE NEVER REGISTERED A SINGLE FIRE ARM LET ALONE THE CRATES I HAVE
@Clif Prager never when they come for yours my name doesn’t pop up / know the law and you will see
@Clif Prager WELL THANKS BRO, I NEVER GO WITH THE FLOW
@Clif Prager those forms aren’t registration because they aren’t suppose to go into a registry. Now we are currently dealing with an issue where the atf has been taking paperwork from ffl’s that shut down and are putting them into a database when they are surrendered to the atf as required by law, that is illegal. Congress is in the process of making them erase this database. So while yes there is proof of a background check there is no official registry, gun registry’s are federally illegal in the US.
Don't kid yourself. If yer armed they know. The question is will you act or bow? I know the answer tho.
The west is populated by cowards.
Imagine seizing people’s cars because one person, you don’t know or never met, drove drunk
The right to defend oneself is a fundamental human right, regardless of whether your country has laws protecting it or not. I think disarming should be met with violence, because governments need to realize that they aren't entitled to people's guns no matter how special they think they are.
Damn I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen a British person talking on behalf of a gun owner. This dude is cutting edge
You probably only see what the media feeds you,
We do exist but they usually only put us on TV when something bad happens.
It's safer and easier for cops to hassle law abiding gun owners and congratulate themselves for "fighting crime" than it is to go after real criminals.
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Too true.
Yes, they are afraid to go after criminals.
Absolutely the case. Until they step on enough toes and the "criminals" become less scary than those who will stand up for their rights and freedoms.
Thats because "law abiding citizens" are admitted cowards who will do whatever they are told right or wrong. Sheep
You're detecting something you can't put your finger on... well, it's easy enough to see that you're all going to lose your firearms, unless you can stop it.
At a renewal I did over 10 years ago, the Police doubled up every Firearm on the ticket, suddenly I was allowed two of everything, including moderators, I quickly called up the Firearms Department, and suggested they had made a mistake on the ticket, and they apologised profusely, I sent back the ticket and got the corrected Firearms listed on a new ticket. At the time I joked with the FEO that I didn't feel it was a good idea to go out and buy two of everything as it was an obvious clerical error, and I couldn't afford to anyway.
Can we even joke about these things anymore?
Thank God for the second amendment. This is absolutely disgusting!
sadly we gave up the right to bear arms many years ago. 1 major shooting and most people handed their shit over. You certainly can't rely on the police to protect you (especially from the woke police we have nowadays, more interested in feelings offenses). Stay safe and flex those rights before you lose them
@@Deadpool_collector247 You shut your mouth, take your jabs, kneel before the NHS and pay for your state-run propaganda, bigot! /endsarcasm
@@evilblackcat6357 no major British political party is in favour of privitisation of the NHS, bach🏴
@@Deadpool_collector247 the issue in UK though has been that most ppl dont like or have any interest in guns..i am not saying that that justifies taking them from those that do but there is no major constituency of support. I recall ppl complaining when AFOs were on duty in our town as seeing armed police offended them (the same ppl that ring up when the force helicopter is out)
@@vanpallandt5799 That's a shame. Would be nice to have an alternative to a socialist system and not have to leave the country for it.
As an American, it is nearly impossible for me to wrap my mind around this whole situation.
Confiscations happen in the USA as well. Research the New Orleans hurricane Katrina seizures. Louisiana had to pass a specific law to keep guns from being stolen by the authorities during a state of emergency. Stay informed and vote accordingly. Never become complacent.
@@akaruchoose2693 very true, unbelievable what happened after Katrina
The USA isn’t too far behind with its “red flag laws”
@@akaruchoose2693 Voting will never get us out of this mess, when the elections are totally controlled - don't you get it?
@@pharmerdavid1432 I think I got some of it. I've read the Old Testament several times, this "mess" has been going on for a very long time. We just happen to be going through our little part of it. There is a time and season for everything.
This is happening here in North Wales, too. I personally know shooters who's guns have been snatched for no good reason. Guns will only be for criminals soon.
No matter what country you're in and what firearms laws are in place, NEVER disclose any mental health status or diagnosis to law enforcement.
In Arizona, where I live, no permit is required to own, or carry firearms, openly or concealed. I can purchase a gun from a friend or neighbor and I never have to register the sale or my ownership of that gun with any governmental entity. I'm allowed to shoot on federal land without any fees paid or permission granted. The UK sounds like a terrible place to be for a person intetested in guns or shooting. Come be an American! We'd love to have more shooters!
@Angel Valdez keep the shitlibs out make them feel uncomfortable and unwelcome
Yes, but Arizona is one of the states that are preparing to require vax passports. I am concerned they'll do through a back door what they can't do through the front door. We need to stand up for EVERY right we have so as to preserve all rights.
I love to go shooting but I'm from Mexico, can't have guns here. Can I be an American too?
@@laylanievalenzuela8095 Yes you can. Just get in line.
@@laylanievalenzuela8095 Just come across the border, Biden will pay for everything!
Never give anything to any cop no matter what, they can just say "You willing gave us away your firearms for us to remove from you" they can just say you gave them away to be taken for good. Never give or allow anything, get a solicitor and or make sure they have warrants for anything and everything they ask for.
Absolute rubbish and completely incorrect. Police can seize firearms or anything else for that matter, in multiple situations without a warrant.
As said and whilst i dont agree with the police uplifting guns for 'safe custody', there are seizure powers (of property in general)in various circs outside of warrants
@@davog1946 I think he is meaning if you haven't committed a crime, don't give them up unless they have a warrant.
@@lhkraut nope, again spreading completely incorrect information that is not the case.
@@davog1946 Was only trying to help. I said that I think this is what he meant and not trying to spread incorrect information. Was hoping to have a conversation, not to be accused of telling incorrect information. Oh well, it doesn't always work that way on UA-cam.
This sounds disgusting to do this to law abiding citizens who own guns.
A shooting ground in Shropshire recently told members to be careful of what they post on social media. A member recently had his fireams removed due to an innocent post. I'm also hearing of a lot of people having the devils own game renewing licencses
I'm so sorry for you good Brits. Such a tragedy to live in a country that does not respect your human rights. Same with Australians.
Let it be a lesson to us here in the states, not to allow it to happen here.
Yep, my mother was friends with the nurse that tended to the Tas patsy in the set-up that led to Oz citizens losing their right to firearms ownership.
They are doing there best t to make it happen in the us as well
America is right behind. we must do something here to stop it now. As well as reverse the flow already going on.
What do the two have in common? A monarchy... enough said
This is tragic. My heart breaks for our oldest and strongest allies. The queens subjects are still under the tyranny we in the US escaped.
Did you know that our so called allies were our enemies in the revolutionary war and the war of 1812. They are still our enemy as well as the enemy of their own people. Down with the Queen of the bee hive! The Puritan Societies, and their damn corporations that control America!
Technically France is our oldest ally.
The fact you think we escaped tyranny is terrifying. We escaped nothing. We changed the words is all that happened. Freedom is the single biggest illusion in the United States of corruption.
America is not free, the police are a standing army, we have more people in prison than anyone else in the world!
@@charleslewis6047 they are not an enemy because of what they did 200 years ago. You really hold a grudge don’t you mr fake “patriot”
This video will make me celebrate the 4th of July even more now.
Meanwhile ,criminals own and carry assault rifles ,sub machine guns and hand guns with impunity .
I had my shotgun licence refused after waiting 12months for an answer, the reason?
I once had a street warning for possession of cannabis, no criminal record.
This is what happens with gun control. Once it starts it never stops.
Good!
@@davog1946 maybe you should visit all the videos where guns have saved peoples lives, stopped home invasions and protected families from robberies, rapes or even murderers and go and comment that you wish they didn't have the ability to protect themselves? Would you look at it that way? Or are you a hypocrite?
Saved lives from others guns? Guns don’t solve guns.
@@davog1946 there's lliterally a million videos on youtube where people have stopped crimes from happening just from owning a gun where the thief/rapist/whatever didn't have one. They have stopped all sorts of crimes from taking place and protected all sorts of families. You acting like this never happens is ridiculous, and i would like you to look all those people in the eye and tell them they didn't have a right to protect their families.
They have to justify their positions so they have to continuously move the goal posts for legal gun owners.
This title got me very excited…
The fact that anyone in any country has to have permission or a license to own a firearm is insane. Being “obedient” is sad and tyranny
It's cowardice!
by that logic you would be ok with your schizophrenic and coke addicted neighbor to own a gun without any sort of test if hes capable of handling it?
@@menno9 well it didn’t stop Hunter Biden😂 but seriously anyone who’s willing to give up freedoms for safety deserves neither. It will never be a perfect world and there will always be evil in it sadly. I personally would rather have means of protecting myself and my family rather than worry about if someone has the skill and that’s the basis on if they should be able to practice their rights or not. I get what your saying and it’s a valid point no doubt but by that logic you’re saying the single mom who has a stalker or abusive ex shouldn’t be allowed to protect her and her kids just because she may or may not what? Qualify? I mean does that not sound like a slippery slope? People need to think about these things rather than just supporting taking away rights. Rights that we are given at birth. Not by the constitution cause all it does is tell the government what they cannot do which is infringe upon those rights. Not trying to argue or say “you’re wrong” or anything like that (as I know everything sounds smart ass through a keyboard so don’t take it that way please)
@@menno9 It should be very difficult to take someone’s rights away regardless as what you view the person to be.
@@menno9 Yes. There is zero limiting factor in an instrument bound to an intrinsic human right. That mentally ill cokehead may be a piece of shit but there are many clear-minded substance-free people who are outright evil. Did you even watch the video? These assholes think autism may make someone be more prone to violence with a firearm when that is just not the case. This is why people are avoiding psychiatrists like a plague.
Words to be wary of: reasonable, safe, secure, gun control.
Sad that your nation has removed so much of your rights.
Trump: meaningful background checks!
Technically, they have not removed their rights, because natural rights (the right to defend oneself, for example) cannot really be taken away, because they exist outside of the realm of social hierarchies. What they are really doing is infringing on their rights.
@@TheCapstah Exactly! For those who don't know, this is why the Second Amendment is worded the way it is. "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The Founders knew what they were about!
IMO, as a US Citizen, your first mistake was answering your door when the come knocking. You are not required to do that. Make them get a judge to sign a Search Warrant or Warrant for Arrest. As a law abiding citizen that hasn’t committed a crime don’t play their silly games. You’re NOT obligated to answer your door and debate Police. We in the West were raised to be respectful and obedient to the Police, but that’s been taken advantage of over & over again.
This is a huge security risk.Criminals can just impersonate police and do the same thing and take their guns.
As a Canadian, watching this go down, in this manner, for you folks .. I'm left speechless, not only because it Is happening but because it's not any kind of a stretch to imagine this taking place here in Canada. I hope you folks manage to get this stopped, .. Soon.
Unfortunately, it's not going to stop, it's going to get worse. Much worse. The government doesn't care if you're a good citizen, they want your guns and they are going to take them. Look at the recent firearms legislation enacted in Canada. It's not if it will happen in Canada, it IS happening. It's death by a thousand cuts. Every new gun control law is just one more step forward in their plan to completely disarm the U.K. and Canada. All you have to do is research what's happening because if you depend on the liberal media you'll never get the truth and by the time you do find out what's going on, it's already over and you've lost.
Completely agree .. we need to stay on top of this issue.
Canada and Australia are the perfect example as to what happens when the government disarms it's citizenry. First, in the name of safety, they confiscate your guns, then they put you in "safe quarantine locations". What next? transport by box cars? re-education camps? government seizure of private property? Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. They can have my guns when they pry it from my cold dead hands. Any student of the constitution and American history, who've read the federalist papers understand why the right to keep and bare arms comes ONLY after freedom of speech, press and religion. Without the 2nd you don't have a 1st.
I thought it had happened in your country. Didn't Trudeau get some legislation "read" and passed during one of your lockdowns when parliament was not sitting. No more AR's or something the like?
You’re just as neutered in Canada. Come down here to Texas. Freedom rings in the south.
4:56 U.S. Cops: "So anyway, I started blasting."
Murderers, cold blooded gang bangers with badges.
"We're here to seize your guns." "Wait there a minute, I'm just going to get something..." That was hilarious!
Lol, yep
Love that humor😆😅🤣🤣😂😂😅👌👍🖖✌
Similar here in Canada , it is slow and relentless disarming of the law abiding citizens . It needs to stop . Remember common law ? the one that says no victim no crime ? Statute law says your a slave with privileges. We all wear two hats , one has rights and one has privileges .
Moral of the story shouldn't have opened the door.
This makes me even happier to be an American. Here having a firearm is a RIGHT and not a privilege.
Wrong, I'm an Iraq veteran who got hit with a f****** b******* fake felony. - wake the f******up they're privileges not rights.
Not in New York
it's a shrinking right and for many, an unobtainable privilege.
Soon they'll be able to just throw the constitution in the paper shredder and there won't a thing anyone can do to stop them...
A "right" that the US government has been violating for decades.
Just remember what a Founding Father said, I believe it was James Madison, "A just and popular government need not fear an armed citizenry." This is the basis for the 2nd Amendment, and the Founders understood that. They understood that there may come a time when the government will or could become oppressive, abusive, deceitful, and tyrannical, which has been clearly occurring increasingly. And the people will and should have some means to defend themselves.
You mean like the government of today?
J-6 committee had a wittness pretty much the same thing. President Trump did not fear the public with rifles in hand. If you want to believe theJ-6 committee.
America was built on slavery and was oppressive from day one. You must be pretty deluded to think it's the land of the free when they kept millions of slaves and committed genocide on the natives in their pursuit of land.
My expressed support to my UK cousins. I pay attention to what they have to endure for it will come everywhere in the freedom loving English speaking people.
I cant wait for the follow up program "the light from the sun helps plants grow" in the next installment of "how to state the obvious"
That literal 'foot in the door' while trying to confiscate his guns is so symbolic of all gun control laws everywhere, and an interesting selling point for Ring doorbell devices.
Move it or lose it.
No. Ring doorbell software has built in back doors for law enforcement.
if so then you never requested the info. rarely has the RING company even asked if the was a warrant. they just hand it over
Instead of a "Jack"-booted thug, I guess she was a "Jill"-booted thug?
@@MrJedi5150 low totem pole patrol porkchops dont get access to the cyber crime club
Make no mistake: this is exactly the kind of heavy handed control that they would love to implement in the United States. You can see this in its infancy in things like red flag orders, which allow the mostly-extrajudicial seizure of firearms by the State. In places like California where they have implemented it, the list of reasons to seize your guns via red flag order are expanding.
Wow, a comment from someone who can actually see the writing on the wall. I was starting to lose hope.
This isn't the cause of the state, this is entirely the police covering their own failings. The mass shooting that happened was because the police allowed someone unfit to own firearms, the law is very simple when it comes to who can and who can't have guns. The shooter was clearly unfit so the police are trying to distract everyone from their fuck up
The California Communists Republic is not part of the United States -- this is why they have no 2nd Amendment rights.
I sent my renewal in back in may and still got nothing back, the storage costs to date stands at over £1000, i have contacted them many of times and got no where, iv even made a complaint to the PCC and still nothing. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
“People haven’t been seen to be alabaster confused about the way he said it”
- Andrew Jackson
"My Firearms Officer, Gun License, Permission to have a firearm...etc" This is all crazy to imagine that you would need permission to protect your own life!!
Maybe, but you can't have a society where anyone can access a firearm. Unless you want thousands of deaths each year like in the US due to firearms.
Most of these firearms licenses in the uk are mainly for sports/farming/hunting not to protect yourself. Yes he can shoot someone intruding or whatever but he’ll probably go to court with chance of going to prison
@@alexanderertl9530 The US is not even in the top 5 countries with most firearm deaths per capita. (Especially if you remove suicides). But at the cost of a tyrannical Government saying I can't protect my own life?! I'll take being in the top 10.
@@alexanderertl9530 You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
lol, in the UK personal/property protection is not a valid reason to own a firearm. If you put that down on your application, it gets rejected immediately.
Damn shame you folks in Britain have to go through all this nonsense to have firearms. The individual right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is God given. You can’t do that without the ability to defend yourself against two legged predators.
We have strong words and sarcasm.
but even those words can land you in court.
Trouble is, the British people turned their back on God which is why we are more oppressed than you guys.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of places in America that are almost this ridiculous. And they are all deep Blue.
Although, at least in America the police can't just show up and claim they have the right to inspect your firearms or how they are stored.
That is, unless, you own licensed suppressors, automatic weapons (I think), or you have a specific kind of firearms license. Manufacturing, I think. When you fall into those categories, you do give away *some* of your rights, as far as I understand it. I've been told that you open yourself up to inspections that you can't refuse, but don't quote me on that.
@@scottcantdance804 In the US you don’t lose your 4th amendment rights just because you have a license to engage in the business of selling or manufacturing firearms. You can refuse inspection. The issue is if you refuse inspection they could revoke your license because you are licensed to engage in a regulated business. As far as a tax stamp for the individual ownership of NFA weapons (machine guns, silencers, etc). you don’t lose your 4th amendment rights by having those weapons. Authorities cannot search your home or compel you to present the weapons. They can only search your home with a warrant issued by a magistrate or judge based on probable cause and your refusal to provide consent for a warrantless search does not affect your tax stamp or ownership of that weapon.
@@scottcantdance804 Have you heard of Red Flag Laws? Red Flag laws allow the police just show up and take all your firearms. They were supported by The Democrats, Trump, the ATF and the NRA! and have led to the deaths/murders of two law abiding gun owners in Maryland at the hands of police.
I had a chat with a lad from the UK a little while back. His perspective was that human life is sacrosanct (in that I agree) and that we have no right to take it.
I countered that a person can give me that permission through their actions. That they, and no one else, are the owner of their life; and define the conditions under which they live or die.
The difference, of course; is who can give permission for the taking of a life.
Perhaps in the UK the generally-accepted answer is: no one can except, in extreme circumstances, the government.
Whereas in the US the more...controversial answer is: if the owner of that life decides potentially lethal violence is ok to get what they want, in offering even just the legitimate threat of lethal force they have just given permission for the taking of their life. They're playing the game and are open to reaping the consequences.
I prefer that second answer.
Government doesn't own people's lives. Killing is not a power belonging solely to the government.
I don't want to. But legitimate (potential) use of force is just another kind of power. It doesn't belong solely to the government in the US. It's been democratized.
That's what the second amendment is to the US; and that's why it is critical to who we are.
I feel so bad for the Brits best wishes from America
Officer: "We are here to take your firearms"
Me: "Oh that is such a pity as they were all lost in a tragic boating accident in February"
Office: "There isn't a body of water within 8 hours of your house"
Me: "What can I say, I love boating"
Wouldn't recommend lying to law enforcement. This is a meme and can probably get you charged with a felony for lying.
@@Marin3r101 they'd have to prove it.
Problem is hidden guns are useless. They need to be handy.
The second you need to hide your guns is the second you need to use them.
@@temporaryscars damn right.
@@Marin3r101 Buddy, I don't think you heard him. He lost his firearms in a boating accident, have some pity. I also lost all of my firearms in a boating accident as well. Crazy.
Another reason we need constitutional carry rights in the United States across the board. Glad nobody knows what I have, nobody's business but my own 💪🇺🇲
..and the theives that break into your house before they inter the afterlife
@@Pressplay267 Nothing like fearing thieves with guns at night to remind us what freedom feels like.
Authoritarians prefer unarmed subjects to armed citizens. It isn't about crime. It's about control.
So let me get this straight, two of these people had their firearm history erased and they both went out of their way to re-inform the government about ALL of them? At the very least keep ONE secret and nail it under a floorboard for a rainy day.
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That's the dream
They're sheep.
@@fredandersen9873 - Yes, because that one nailed under a floorboard will sustain the 'revolution' unto victory.
@@douglasdavis8395 bet you'd wish you had a gun when someone's knocking on your door to kill you or take you to a camp
My understanding is Police can only enter with a warrant or if they hear cries for help, are chasing someone or are acting under an arrest warrant, if they have no legal justification for being there then you don't have to let them in. Goes without saying you can invite them in and this is usually the first thing they will ask to do, it's not impolite to refuse them entry, it's your right under the law.
It's amazing to watch how the government's outside the US control their populations so completely. Makes me even happier to be a US citizen. Where I live, even the liberal lefties are well armed.
I spoke to the legal person at the NRA yesterday where we members have legal insurance to cover us for court costs. He said that it's not that easy for the police to get a warrant from a court. They have only 4 reasons they can use public safety is one serious mental issues is another can't remember the rest sorry. He did say that if you hand them over without a revocation order then your at their mercy if and when you can get them back if you do, if they take them on a revocation then your insurance will cover your costs provided you have not broken the law.
@@stevehansen7994 So you would swap gun safety for weekly school shooting?
That is The Way it should be but in the united states' they go after your house let it burn then take your guns.use swatt at any excuse under the sun.
@@hardergamer I'll be keeping all of my guns, if you don't want a gun, don't get one. Simple.
Shooting those that try to seize your firearms tends to usually always tell them not to day