Ranger 1600 DJI Digital FPV INAV setup

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024

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  • @margaretwatson3573
    @margaretwatson3573 3 роки тому +2

    That's a monster setup right there. The other kids from school must be so jealous!

  • @maudeboyd2108
    @maudeboyd2108 3 роки тому +3

    Must be nice knowing how to build these things. I'm looking to get a DJI FPV system myself and would love to know more.

  • @rebeccashields4282
    @rebeccashields4282 3 роки тому +2

    With that range, it would be a shame to not see the view in all its glory in full digital mode!

  • @BerTeL_FPV
    @BerTeL_FPV 3 роки тому +1

    Thnks for the RC yaw tip! My ranger 2000 has some strange roll-yaw behaviour in acro...

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 3 роки тому +1

    Dont know if Inav has it but if you decide to give Ardupilot another try, it has a smart RTH flight mode which if used will follow the path its taken to get home again and can be used to return at low altitudes while avoiding obstacles.

    • @motionsic
      @motionsic 3 роки тому

      Interesting RTH retracing flight path. Thanks for sharing...

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +2

      Smart RTH would be amazing. I will revisit one day

  • @regfeener
    @regfeener 3 роки тому +2

    That was great Bud..

  • @The_Pub_
    @The_Pub_ 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome Image quality... Best bird to to do it with!!!

  • @joenaylor34
    @joenaylor34 3 роки тому +1

    Andrew, I am attempting to duplicate your excellent setup. Loads of great ideas including the little board mount for the FC and I just noticed the heat shrink around the battery end of the FC, another great idea. Would you mind sharing your suggestion for Cruise Throttle?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      I may have reduced cruise throttle to 1350 on 4S.

  • @motionsic
    @motionsic 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the excellent setup breakdown🙏. I might have to start using flight controllers🤔

    • @stevefox3763
      @stevefox3763 3 роки тому +2

      I have a bunch of craft running Ardupilot but i almost always still pick a diy foamboard plane with just an Rx in it and stand alone voltage OSD, raw manual flight of an unrefined plane is so much more fun and i still cloud surf with it lol.

    • @motionsic
      @motionsic 3 роки тому

      I fly mostly FPV formations and mock dogfight in scale planes within the confines our club field. But there’s a yearning to venture further out to make use of RTH in case of signal loss. Will have to check out Ardupilot, thanks.

    • @stevefox3763
      @stevefox3763 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@motionsic im running 4w on 2.4ghz, when your amped up you don't have to worry about loss of signal :)

    • @lassie995
      @lassie995 3 роки тому +3

      @@motionsic zohd kopilot lite is IMO much easier for first time user

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +2

      Yes I agree. Plug in and fly, no waiting

  • @kenspaceman3938
    @kenspaceman3938 3 роки тому +3

    Would this Ranger 1600 be an okay thermal glider say over a farm field during a warm summer day? Or maybe Ranger 2000 better? I want easily detachable wings and not something huge, rather something portable in a backpack. Sorry if this is not the correct video under which to place my questions. Looking mainly for a LOS thermal low altitude glider, but want an fpv cam up front and if possible also the choice of sometimes “dressing up” for middle range fixed wing “droning”. I already have a pair of 3s3000mAh and 4s5000mAh lipos from other gadgets that I’d like to use. What about getting a Ranger 2000 version 2 AND a pair of spare v2 1600 wings, would they fit in the fuselage? Volantex is a viable choice here in Finland because their shipping rates from the Czech Republic warehouses when ordering from Banggood are very affordable, unlike many other brands. UK shops are no longer a choice after brexit, I’ve had shipping problems ever since from over there. I’m just a boomer getting an itch of activating and modernizing my old hobby. I do a little this and that and getting “summer vibes” walking along those big farm fields near a river running outside of my city. This time I don’t wanna build with balsa from scratch, rather have an EPP PNP bird. Maybe I’m just another dreamer...🙂

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      Yes definitely. Ranger 2000 would be better for thermalling. Ranger 1600 wings are directly swappable, same with the Phoenix 2000. I use 4S 3300 and there is plenty of space for bigger.

  • @grim-upnorth
    @grim-upnorth 3 роки тому

    Hi Andrew. I've been flying FPV planes since 2009, I think I've had nearly every popular model there has ever been... from the classic skywalker back in the glory days right the way up to modern "specifically designed for FPV" planes like the Talon GT Rebel... and almost everything in between.
    I must say that, the skywalkers never had any lateral or vertical thrust angle on their motor mounts, same thing goes for all 4 of my skyhunters (2x 1.8m and 2x mini) both my Mini Talons, and my Talon GT, none of those models have offest thrust angles...... yet I never had any issues with "pusher" style aircraft with regards to needing to use rudder... that is until I came across the ranger series of planes.... planes that DO have their motor mounts offset at an angle.
    Don't you think that's strange?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      I would guess 50 50 offset vs straight over all the models I have tried. Pusher and tractor.

  • @21y1ihuangzhongyi6
    @21y1ihuangzhongyi6 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, so can you just connect the red and black wires on the air unit to a separate battery? Will that work? Thanks.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, all it needs is more than 7V I think.

    • @21y1ihuangzhongyi6
      @21y1ihuangzhongyi6 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton ok thanks!😊😊😊

    • @21y1ihuangzhongyi6
      @21y1ihuangzhongyi6 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton one last question, does it need a flight controller or a power supply alone will do?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому +1

      Just power. Flight controller adds some on screen telemetry and allows low power until armed, but is not essential.

  • @timothyhighstone9300
    @timothyhighstone9300 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Andrew. What equipment did you use to print the air unit holder? Thanks

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator 3 роки тому

    The Nano Goblin appears to be trying to photo bomb, or wanting to fly.
    Thanks for nice video and tips.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Ha yes the Dart 250 and Nano Goblin were seeking attention

  • @kerrynmacdonald6407
    @kerrynmacdonald6407 3 роки тому

    thanks Andrew. So I got myself an old toro wing 600mm and Im wondering what glue i use. It's a simple EPP model.

  • @mortschubert3909
    @mortschubert3909 3 роки тому

    Quite spectacular - everything: the preparations, the view, the flight.
    What is the legal range you can fly a plane?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Thanks Mort. First rule of FPV, we dont talk about how range.

    • @mortschubert3909
      @mortschubert3909 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton, well, I had no idea about that. I apologize!
      But you did mention the legal range; hence, my question about it.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      @@mortschubert3909 No apology needed, I was sort of joking. But you never know who is reading these comments

    • @mortschubert3909
      @mortschubert3909 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton, I thought everyone knows who is reading our comments! :D

  • @EnglishTurbines
    @EnglishTurbines 3 роки тому +3

    iNAV doesn't know what to do with the Rudder, lol... correct Andrew, I agree...One thing they could do easily is to offer a percentage mix with Aileron only when in navigation Modes...Models like this one would benefit from the directional effect of Rudder...🤔😳😳😳🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +1

      its funny because in Ardupilot in stabilized modes it uses the rudder by default to coordinate turns .. when i began using inav i found it weird that it did not ..
      however i never tried disabling the stabilized yaw .. i might give it a try.. after all you can do a simple mix with the radio to do rudder mixing from it and can even asign the mix to a switch to use it at will (wich is a mix i have done in nearly all my planes)

    • @EnglishTurbines
      @EnglishTurbines 3 роки тому +2

      @@sparrowlt Yes, but a mixer in your TX will do exactly nothing when the FC is in RTH for example....🤔🤔🤔🙄🇬🇧

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +1

      @@EnglishTurbines agreed.. tought in RTH the primary goal is to fly the plane back rather than a smooth flight.. however they really should adress this since as said Ardupilot has been properly using the rudder for ages

    • @EnglishTurbines
      @EnglishTurbines 3 роки тому +1

      @@sparrowlt Yes, exactly, the rudder is often of benefit when doing RTH to hold the heading on this type of plane...Without it, the model can meander and snake it's way back home. Not pretty, and it takes longer. The old Skywalker won't even turn without rudder and aileron combined, hopeless in fact..🤔🤔🤔😳😳🇬🇧

  • @northernfpv9562
    @northernfpv9562 3 роки тому

    I've been trying unsuccessfully to build this myself but I'm terrible at soldering and have killed two boards just pinning them! Could you show some OSD footage of this flight please?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Cant record OSD. There are ways to overlay it in post processing but that requires Windows PC

  • @DonDegidio
    @DonDegidio 3 роки тому

    Hi Andrew,
    Nice flight video and the the color looks good. What's that facility off to your right behind the hedge? Stay safe.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Target shooting club. Small bore rifles I think

  • @vracan
    @vracan 2 роки тому

    why cant the camera transmitter air board transmit directly to the DJI FPV googles? Why do you need to connect the rx/tx wires to the plane's controller board?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому

      It only needs power to work, Tx and Rx connection is not essential. The FC connection only adds some telemetry elements to the OSD, and will reduce VTx power when the board is disarmed, to reduce overheating.

  • @spartan3299
    @spartan3299 3 роки тому

    Very nice setup. I wasn't so pleased with the Phoenix S 1600, it flies ok, but I was very happy that the wings fit my Ranger 2K!
    I thought I detected some roll twitching. Did you see it in flight?

  • @bipinmoharana464
    @bipinmoharana464 3 роки тому +1

    Sir, I had made an rc pusher plane folowing to your 3channel trainer rc pusher plane(which is totaly covered with red tape) .but couldn't get its CG. I became failure.........I became sorrow.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Keep trying, you will learn quickly

  • @sergeyafonin2596
    @sergeyafonin2596 3 роки тому

    Why do you use RC Yaw instead of Stabilized YAW?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      To avoid the problems I showed in my INAV Rudder videos

  • @cruisingaltitude5284
    @cruisingaltitude5284 Рік тому

    Hi Andrew, my long-used Ranger G2 crashed today, and spare parts are no longer available (no complete planes either). Yet this one is (not cheap anymore though). Would you recommend this as next/upgraded FPV cruiser, or are there other/better options? Also I'd be interested to know if it offers significantly more stability in the wind than the G2, due to larger wingspan and more weight, for more relaxed FPV flying on windy days. Thanks!

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  Рік тому +1

      Yes it's the logical nex step from the G2. Bigger, tougher and a lot more stable. The AtomRC Swordfish is my favourite at the moment, for efficiency and wind penetration, but it's more expensive and more delicate.

    • @cruisingaltitude5284
      @cruisingaltitude5284 Рік тому

      @@AndrewNewton That's really a beauty, incredibly sleek design. But almost too beautiful to fly/risk in the air. ;) I'll consider it though, more recently released planes tend to be cheaper than older ones, as they're available from local Chinese warehouses. Thanks a lot for the information!

  • @paulpaulsen7309
    @paulpaulsen7309 2 роки тому

    ... I wonder why the antennas of the FVP system are always mounted on the top of the plane, wouldn't it make more sense to mount them on the underside, of course inside the Styrofoam fuselage for protection ?
    After all, the "pilot" is under the plane ...

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому

      I have mounted a few under the wing. Mostly just convenience mounting on top

  • @angryotter9601
    @angryotter9601 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the video! I am sorry for my bad english. I am just starting to assemble my Ranger 1600 and would like to clarify two questions: how do you laminate the wings; are the servos that come with the kit reliable and do they need to be replaced (on Emax ES08MDII for example)?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Just tape on the wing leading edges. Supplied servos are OK but those Emax servos would be much better. More accurate and durable.

  • @modellbau-scalecarstrucksd122
    @modellbau-scalecarstrucksd122 3 роки тому

    are u fly mode 5? Throttle by Lipps... love it

  • @nguyenducquocanh4341
    @nguyenducquocanh4341 Рік тому

    I have troubles auto tuning my Ranger 2000 so that RTH will work in case of signal loss. But my last effort resulted in a wrecked plane. After autotuning and re-fly again, as soon as I engage Angle mode from Manual, the bird flips up and spiral down to the ground. Horrific experience. Can anyone share his experience please?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  Рік тому +1

      Auto tune is not the problem. Go back to the basic setup and make sure everything is working in the correct direction. INAV troubleshooting - newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2023/06/inav-trouble-shooting-checklist.html

    • @nguyenducquocanh4341
      @nguyenducquocanh4341 Рік тому

      @@AndrewNewton I found the link to be very useful for fixed wings. Thanks.

  • @Fischertek
    @Fischertek 3 роки тому

    Hi Andrew, Same as Rob C, I seem to be convinced by your choices as well. I even bought the Creality Ender 3, which off course is a popular printer. I haven't reached the digital FPV stage yet, but I was wondering, now that picture quality is that high, do you think it would be possible to mechanically stabilize the picture, meaning to introduce a kind of gyro mount? Not for the motor vibrations, but more to mitigate the turbulence (-and shaky pilot hands). Maybe the FC stabilizer can do it alone, I don't know ;-) Thanks a lot for your videos. They are always very welcome!

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      Yes I have made camera stabiliser before, using camstab in INAV. But it's not as effective as a brushless gimbal for the camera.

    • @Fischertek
      @Fischertek 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton Thanks a lot! I just watched your video on INAV Camstab. Great! I didn't know it existed. - I'm just a noob.

    • @sakarrc5001
      @sakarrc5001 3 роки тому

      Hypersmooth really does magic. It's not comparable with reelsteady or another fc gyro stabilization. For stabilization GoPro are the best, then it's gimball but expensive ones :)

    • @David-gk8yg
      @David-gk8yg 2 роки тому

      @@sakarrc5001 You can also try gyroflow, which apparently has comparable stabilization to what GoPro offers. The issue with it is that you need additional gyro data that can be obtained from the FC blackbox or the camera itself (cameras such as the runcam 5 orange will save a gyro data file after each video)

    • @oneistar6661
      @oneistar6661 2 роки тому

      @@David-gk8yg Timings of gyro data from arduplane doesn't fit gyroflow. I've also tried it with DJI and quad on betaflight and indeed it does the trick, but again it's compromise compared to hypersmooth.

  • @caringcenter5375
    @caringcenter5375 2 роки тому

    what is best motor size & Prop seize for volantex ranger 1600?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому +1

      Sunnysky 2212 or 2216 1250kV (4S) or 1400kV (3S) 8x6" prop

    • @caringcenter5375
      @caringcenter5375 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton do the best use 2836 1100kv (3300 4S) & 8x6" prop?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому

      Yes that will work OK

  • @jasongomes7490
    @jasongomes7490 3 роки тому

    Andrew, nice tips again. Was this recoding onboard sdcard? Wondering how good the FPV video is going digital.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      This is the first 1080P onboard footage I have shown, all the previous are 720P recorded in the goggles.

  • @aesatishchaudhary5933
    @aesatishchaudhary5933 3 роки тому

    Hlo sir how do we connect FrskyX8R smartport telemetry with MatekF765 in arduplane mission planner

  • @john_h9281
    @john_h9281 3 роки тому

    Excellent video Andrew 👍😊
    Does it loiter ok around your safe home point ??
    What method do you use to obtain the GPS Coordinates for your safe home points ??

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Thanks QS. Yes it loiters nicely in Pos Hold and Home or Safehome. GPS coords from Google Maps. I have done a video on Safehome setup

  • @jaimeebentall3667
    @jaimeebentall3667 3 роки тому

    Have you had any luck getting OSD on INAV / DJI digital? Thanks

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Yes I do have the OSD working, just that it doesn't record. Shown in this video ua-cam.com/video/hWEwuuuGge0/v-deo.html

    • @jaimeebentall3667
      @jaimeebentall3667 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton Thankyou! been struggling with this

  • @BryonGaskin
    @BryonGaskin 3 роки тому

    Andrew did you get the spinning to the right fixed? My 1600 spins to the right as well. I had the same thing with the Ranger 2000. I was just kind of living with it on the 2000 (mainly because I wasn't sure what to do). Then I went down the path of installing flaps and setting up crow breaking, which meant putting the ailerons on their own servo output and it flew amazing. Not saying that fixed it on the 2000 but that is when I noticed the problem went away. At the end of the video you said you were going to try and adding in some rudder mixing into your ailerons, is that what you ended up doing?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Haven't done anything about it yet, just trimmed the ailerons and rudder. I did mix rudder and ailerons for lazy cruising. I'll play with the thrust angle again one day.

  • @sergeyafonin2596
    @sergeyafonin2596 3 роки тому

    Do you know, is it possible to see alt vario on DJI osd?

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      Not vario

    • @sakarrc5001
      @sakarrc5001 3 роки тому

      There is a ladder but stationary, alt is only a number in MSP osd.

  • @rphatteras
    @rphatteras 3 роки тому

    Andrew I seem to be buying all of the planes that you review. Well at least some of them - Ranger 2000, FX-61, and the Eachine Razor. The Ranger 2000 has the same body as the 1600. What is the source of the carbon fiber motor mount that you described in the video? I enjoy your videos very much. Thanks

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Good choices Rob. Found the motor mounts on EBAY. Search for 4x Carbon Fiber Universal Motor Mounting Plate for SK450 XA650 FY680 Quadcopter

  • @peterhancox5268
    @peterhancox5268 3 роки тому

    What version of INAV?

    • @jibbajabba4597
      @jibbajabba4597 3 роки тому +1

      Peter Hancox 2.6 is the info on the screen is correct.

  • @eltio77556
    @eltio77556 3 роки тому

    Hello Andrew.
    I connected my VISTA to my 9 v camera port and tx/rx to a free UART.
    Using inav there is a function to change the Auto temp control on/off of the google? Thx and happy Easter

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      Only via the goggles menu, not INAV

    • @eltio77556
      @eltio77556 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton thx you so much Andrew!
      Switching to auto temp OFFwhile doing ground test I can see that video quality decreases little bit than having it switching ON
      Why that?
      Thx :)

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      It limits it to 25mW

    • @eltio77556
      @eltio77556 3 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton sorry I didn’t understand.
      What I said is by checking in can see by having autotemp control on quality is better.’
      This is a ground test.
      Didn’t fly yet with dji

  • @terrymurphy562
    @terrymurphy562 2 роки тому

    Hi Andrew, Ime thinking of venturing into the dji air unit route. Is it possible to use a simple F Controller as to get the osd?? Or maybe some other route except for the likes of inav. Keep up the great work. 👍

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому

      Betaflight or inav are needed to show the fc osd items.

    • @terrymurphy562
      @terrymurphy562 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton F controller = flight controller. I was reading earlier that the SNL+/_ flight controller has a dedicated port for the dji air unit. This flight controller is a Pnp as well. 👍

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому +1

      @@terrymurphy562 Sorry Terry, I did work that out slowly. I have only used Matek and INAV with the DJI. Sounds like SNL is worth a try.

  • @stillnotflyin
    @stillnotflyin 2 роки тому

    Andrew, is the ranger 1600 good for slope soaring I have just ordered it but only flown once with disastrous results I foolishly tried to take off in auto take off with a Zohd Kopilot the plane flew straight then turned sharp right and flew straight into a bramble tree too high up to climb. I am more of a kwad flier than a plane flier and still learning I reckon I would have had a better chance setting off in manual mode but hey shit happens.

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  2 роки тому

      Excellent sloper. I would chuck the Kopilot and just fly manual

    • @stillnotflyin
      @stillnotflyin 2 роки тому

      @@AndrewNewton thank you thats what I thought as I already have a bixler copy of which has no flight controller hence less things to go wrong just a flysky receiver but only flown once as had the prop spinning wrong way but now everything is good I will try again soon before I take the volantex out for maiden flight also got the heewing t1 but do not want to see a repeat of my first crashed flight so lots of practice needed, I tried to join a club and last weekend showed up to find it was closed which was a shame as I have been building myself up to fly a plane which is completely different to flying a drone, I just need to fly I am getting to that age where flying a plane seems miles more relaxing than flying a kwad and that is what appeals to me today.

  • @makewithmegma
    @makewithmegma 3 роки тому +1

    🔥👍

  • @vp-vx9yy
    @vp-vx9yy 3 роки тому +1

    I did 13,3Km with DJI fpv. :)

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому

      Impressive

    • @sakarrc5001
      @sakarrc5001 3 роки тому +1

      Hard cap is at 13.4km unfortunately, whatever I do, it could not go substantially above it. Hope they could add low res long range modulation for the future and this will make me 100% DJI.

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator 3 роки тому

    Andrew, Any concerns with the Ranger FPV platform/canopy latch on the Ranger coming loose in flight. Would be my concern with costly DJI equipment on it. Have read a couple people mentioning this happening and they would prefer latch and rear with tab at front. Thoughts?
    BTW: found this cover design on thingverse, but not a chance to try yet (winter rains here).
    www.thingiverse.com/thing:1305667

    • @AndrewNewton
      @AndrewNewton  3 роки тому +1

      Yes it's a concern. I add a velcro strap over the air unit for safety (usually)

  • @fellpower
    @fellpower 3 роки тому +2

    INAV is stabilizing very well...NOT!...lol

  • @FPV420.
    @FPV420. 3 роки тому +1

    It's all great indeed but the DJI setup is too expensive for me. No way I am spending $1000+ on FPV