I notice a difference between Lang Lang, the world renowned concert pianist, and Shai, Shai takes criticism more slowly and sometimes with argument. Lang Lang makes corrections immediately and effortlessly. Maybe its not about how well you can play piano that determines your success, but how good you are at adapting and improving.
@James Cunico I agree with you there but I think something I noticed was that Lang Lang seemed much more open to the suggestions while it seemed to me that Shia took it personally. That's just my interpretation though.
@James Cunico "The ones that usually take a longer time to soak in new information retain the information better and put it to good use..." Utter nonsense. Decades of cognitive research have proven this to be completely false.
True, in that sense I would remark something that Lang Lang himself said on the interview, his early musical education in China was totally focused on technique and finger virtuosity, not so much on the concept, so he´s willing to easily accept everything that maestro Barenboim says about the concept (everyone should!), but some american, jewish or french pianists in the series have some other previously formed approach to some passages and it is difficult for them to quit it. Now, Lang´s ability to adjust effortlessly that you mention is indeed awesome, he is a technical virtuoso.
No surprise, Israelis argue about everything which is what makes them a great nation but musically they are number one. By that, I mean real music, not the garbage we are offended by every day.
I like Both Lang Lang and Shai. In Shai's defense, I admire that he was very thoughtful and humble in his responses to the Maestro. Though I agree Lang Lang showed truly humbleness(and genius) by taking instructions fast. I also think Shai's way of putting up a small fight as opposed to obeying blindly commendable.
Barenboim is a supreme ambassador for our civilisation. Soloist, accompanist, chamber musician, conductor, educator, diplomat, evangelist. I'd have him make First Contact with the aliens. I love him. These masterclasses are marvellous. Thanks.
I'm a massive admirer of Barenboim although not unreservedly so. However this lesson on the Tempest sonata is magnificent from beginning to end. In particular, his words about the a minor second subject are a revelation. Fascinating!
Barenboim & his first student who, like many, know the notes but can't teach the story, the feelings in the piece, the heart. Wonder if it's only family/ teachers allowed to watch. A date this took place would be great! Barenboim never looks at his piano; just knows every piece & waits to see which of his five languages you speak. Living genius.
This was a helpful masterclass. His experience of playing these sonatas all his life has given him perspective to go deeper with the student in this oft played well known work. It would have been more beneficial if he had talked about the remaining movements., but we can't have everything.
TD Cổ Nhạc yes precisely, if they play the same thing it would still be the same “ criticisms” and it is exactly to save time to have as much time learning from the mistakes as you can. Playing the repeat would just waste time
@@kpunkt.klaviermusik It's not possible for everyone's play to sound the same. We live in the real world, not some theoretical fantasy land. There will always be variations, and let there be more good variations than horrid ones.
@@wwbdwwbd The only person who is able to judge whether an interpretation is good or bad is the composer himself. Since the classical composers are all dead and we don't have recordings of them, this debate is quite pointless.
@@kpunkt.klaviermusik Disagree. Not even the composer themselves can be the final judge. Case in point, for his famous concertos, Rachmaninoff prefers Horowitz's interpretation over that of his own.
I don't like that kind of interpretation, but does EVERYONE need to look like that? sometimes the classical musician needs to learn a little empathy and the reasons for making music
The real beauty of this is that Barenboim the ultimate piano genius is imparting his knowledge to the next generation.
Barenboim injects an unbelievable energy into every single moment of the movement.
Top Notch ❤❤❤
I notice a difference between Lang Lang, the world renowned concert pianist, and Shai, Shai takes criticism more slowly and sometimes with argument. Lang Lang makes corrections immediately and effortlessly. Maybe its not about how well you can play piano that determines your success, but how good you are at adapting and improving.
@James Cunico I agree with you there but I think something I noticed was that Lang Lang seemed much more open to the suggestions while it seemed to me that Shia took it personally. That's just my interpretation though.
@James Cunico "The ones that usually take a longer time to soak in new information retain the information better and put it to good use..." Utter nonsense. Decades of cognitive research have proven this to be completely false.
True, in that sense I would remark something that Lang Lang himself said on the interview, his early musical education in China was totally focused on technique and finger virtuosity, not so much on the concept, so he´s willing to easily accept everything that maestro Barenboim says about the concept (everyone should!), but some american, jewish or french pianists in the series have some other previously formed approach to some passages and it is difficult for them to quit it. Now, Lang´s ability to adjust effortlessly that you mention is indeed awesome, he is a technical virtuoso.
No surprise, Israelis argue about everything which is what makes them a great nation but musically they are number one. By that, I mean real music, not the garbage we are offended by every day.
I like Both Lang Lang and Shai. In Shai's defense, I admire that he was very thoughtful and humble in his responses to the Maestro. Though I agree Lang Lang showed truly humbleness(and genius) by taking instructions fast. I also think Shai's way of putting up a small fight as opposed to obeying blindly commendable.
Barenboim is a supreme ambassador for our civilisation. Soloist, accompanist, chamber musician, conductor, educator, diplomat, evangelist. I'd have him make First Contact with the aliens. I love him. These masterclasses are marvellous. Thanks.
I'm a massive admirer of Barenboim although not unreservedly so. However this lesson on the Tempest sonata is magnificent from beginning to end. In particular, his words about the a minor second subject are a revelation. Fascinating!
Aulas magistrais. Legado de gênio para nossa evolução e compreenção das magníficas sonatas de Beethovem.
As an amateur, this video gives me encouragement. Even professional pianist gets shredded to bits.
Barenboim & his first student who, like many, know the notes but can't teach the story, the feelings in the piece, the heart. Wonder if it's only family/ teachers allowed to watch. A date this took place would be great! Barenboim never looks at his piano; just knows every piece & waits to see which of his five languages you speak. Living genius.
This was a helpful masterclass. His experience of playing these sonatas all his life has given him perspective to go deeper with the student in this oft played well known work. It would have been more beneficial if he had talked about the remaining movements., but we can't have everything.
So perfect this music on those hands. Thank you.
Really talented musician.
What kind of steinway is that?? It sounds so good.
5:05 ooooouh I know that man sitting alone in the last chair
lang lang?
Beethoven, so close to God, coming from hell. What could be of our existence without him?
Curious question: Why is Shai the only student not in the end credit dinner scene??
I actually loved that bit~
These people are far more brilliant than me!
I can't play the piano but I mean their sheer giftedness compared with me having no gifts whatsoever!
Mike Fuller no. They just work hard. You're blaming your laziness on "having no gifts".
@@prs_81 ...Absolutely correct Paasiya, this is not 'intelligence', not even so much 'skill', it is WILL...of which sheer hard work is a component of.
como puede tocar el piano sin mirar las teclas?¿ que crack
durissimo, me hace acordar al chino...
pepeloco65 supongo que tú lo haces mejor, o me equivoco? (:
Me descojono con tus comentarios en cada video
A. G. No me vas a decir que no está bueno.. especialmente después del minuto veinte
pepeloco65 ¿y para cuándo subes tu master con Barenboim? :o ¿o es que quizás eres tú el que le da clases? Maquinita del piano 😂😂😂
Me doy cuenta que muchos profesores creen saber interpretar
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Someone should tell the student that he won't get vibrato by shaking his fingers after passing the key
Did this pianist Shai forget his sheet music ? For a masterclass with the great Maestro Barenboim? I try not to jump to conclusions...
They are supposed to remember the entire sheet, some just bring the sheet for the confort
He does not play repeat in the exposition
Garen Loshkajian No one did for this set of masterclasses. There were trying so save time I’d think
TD Cổ Nhạc yes precisely, if they play the same thing it would still be the same “ criticisms” and it is exactly to save time to have as much time learning from the mistakes as you can. Playing the repeat would just waste time
And no one playing in this scenario would, as is basic practice in masterclasses and lessons.
“Young Steve Jobs uses wrong keyboard”
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Oh God. John Wick!
if you have the ability says he. has none!!!
This dude comes across as a Bill Gates of piano. Totally unappealing
...저친구 마스터클래스갈만한 실력은 아닌거같은데;
Toda la razón del mundo, hermanito.
this guy is the least musical of all the jews of that era
They are supposed to play without own personality. It's so sad how everything personal is wiped out. Don't we have enough robotic pianists?
We are never short of bad pianists and horrid interpretations. I'd like to see more 'robotic' pianists.
@@wwbdwwbd If everybody's playing would sound the same - why did you need more of them?
@@kpunkt.klaviermusik It's not possible for everyone's play to sound the same. We live in the real world, not some theoretical fantasy land. There will always be variations, and let there be more good variations than horrid ones.
@@wwbdwwbd The only person who is able to judge whether an interpretation is good or bad is the composer himself. Since the classical composers are all dead and we don't have recordings of them, this debate is quite pointless.
@@kpunkt.klaviermusik Disagree. Not even the composer themselves can be the final judge. Case in point, for his famous concertos, Rachmaninoff prefers Horowitz's interpretation over that of his own.
I don't like that kind of interpretation, but does EVERYONE need to look like that? sometimes the classical musician needs to learn a little empathy and the reasons for making music
If i wanted a masterclass with a weird pig creature i would go to a fucking farm!!!!
Lots of wrong notes in his playing
That's don't matter, toplay with wrong notes ok, to play without love for music is a shit!
"To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable." -LvB
Leo T “a” wrong note. But here many, and at his level I would think he would not make most of these.
@@PrinsTan it's possible that he's just nervous, i mean he's literally playing for barenboim
so what?