in Canada the one without smart functiuon is now the same price since the smart function one is on sale. I think the one without smart function is a better option for most people
@RSURRECTED I've seen the g93sc dip below the current price but yeah really depends on which one is on sale at what time. I've got the 93 and I've had no reason to wish I had the 95. If I wanna watch TV, I'll just go turn on my TV
I bought one in the launch day in Brazil last year. To me is a dream come true after owning the first G9 and G9 NEO. This OLED image quality is simply perfect, the only small gripe is that I prefer the tighter 1000R curve of the older versions.
I was experimenting a lot in the last year or so waiting for this OLED, I have returned several of the previous 32x9 samsung monitors because Q/A wise they were horrible. in between returns and exchanges my bestbuy rep would let me take something else in the mean time meaning I got to sample many. Currently, I have an LG C1 48 as my office monitor as it burns in slowest, and is under a warranty. for my desktop at home I've settled on the oled G9, however the 27 inch LG 240 hz monitor I tried was fantastic it just was not big enough for me. I also have a Samsung 65 inch OLED 95B, for my TV. I have also bought and sampled many other monitors for friends and companies I work for as I'm a self employed IT/Pc Builder. Im quite good friends with most of them so I can have a lot of hands on time with very nice monitors make sure they work well, and then sell them, return them, even just borrow them before they get deployed. However I don't think ill be buying anything new for myself for a few years, it will be some time until single player experiences can each the limits of this monitor. @@Dark.Syndicate
yeah it is, shame about the horrible quality issues that has plagued the g9 series since the beginning.. and ill have to disclaim ive been rocking g9 for 2y now
yo stop following me around filip! i was just watching the wooting 80% vid before and ur comment was the first one there as well as here for me, was like "wait a minute, i just saw this guy somewhere" and went back to check lmao have a good one mate 👋
Might be ok for ground based sims like F1 etc but a waste of money for flight sims. These ultrawides are pathetic for vertical FOV therefore a a waste of money for flight sims. As soon as they come out with a 4K @120 Hz (fast enough for my sims) that is around 48" then I will join the queue till then they are oddities for me.
I have not seen the review yet, but I would like to point out that there exists the G93SC as well which I have purchased. It is the same monitor but without the smart hub features.
@@drunkhusband6257G9 57 is generally better than OLED 49 because of its size and very high resolution despite lower color gamut and a bit of blooming.
Thanks for this review. I ended up purchasing this monitor because of it. I've been using it for about a month now, and I am not disappointed. I have always been a dual monitor to gamer and was apprehensive about the switch. I have no doubts now, this was a good purchase. The colors and feel while in the game are really amazing. While it's not the best resolution scale for counterstrike, the response time, and refresh rate is. Again, thanks for the video. Without it, I would t of been convinced to purchase.
I have had my G9 for 3 weeks. I really like the monitor but, have changed my use of the monitor to attempt to stave off burn in. Active wall paper, moving my windows around while using, full screening youtube etc. I have been very impressed so far.
dont be too paranoid about burn in, yes its there but so long u have basic care (hide taskbar, set savescreens, avoid unnecesary static images aka no 8h of excel a day) you'll be fine, if you need to use youtube at windowed so'll be it, it'll be fine
Turn your brightness down as much as possible during desktop times. I have a lg CX since about 2021. No burn in yet (and I've looked) and it's only run the pixel refresh twice or so. Also darkreader browser extension. I use it for desktop 8-12 hours a day and it's not even qdled so you should be good mate.
For anyone using an Samsung OLED G8 with an AMD GPU, it is possible to reach 1000nits by applying one change in CRU (custom resolution utility) and in the monitor service menu. After those changes, the monitor switches to the regular HDR pipeline and 1000nits are achievable. Maybe those tweaks are applicable to the G9 aswell even though that's no excuse for Samsung's lack of official fixes for that problem.
CRU Tweak quoted from redd (credits to u/kr0mka): Basically select the monitor in CRU, open up the CTA-861 extension block with the edit button, then remove the Freesync range that already exists there and add the freesync range back again (48-175hz). This will force the monitor to go back to Freesync Premium (instead of Premium Pro) and you'll be able to check that when going into the display status menu (middle button on the remote) and also the ST2084 gamma along with GameHDR mode should be available (after PC restart). The way it works is CRU doesn't support Freesync Premium Pro and when recreating it by adding the new datablock there it only creates data that makes it identify as a regular Freesync Premium monitor.@@victorolmos3639
CRU tweak quoted from redd (credits to kr0mka) Basically select the monitor in CRU, open up the CTA-861 extension block with the edit button, then remove the Freesync range that already exists there and add the freesync range back again (48-175hz). This will change the monitor to go back to Freesync Premium (instead of Premium Pro) and you'll be able to check that when going into the display status menu (middle button on the remote) and also the ST2084 gamma along with GameHDR mode should be available (after PC restart). The way it works is CRU doesn't support Freesync Premium Pro and when recreating it by adding the new datablock there it only creates data that makes it identify as a regular Freesync Premium monitor.@@victorolmos3639
@@EbselSU This is exactly the same fix I have to use with my Samsung QN90A TV to get HDR working properly with an AMD card, the fact that neither AMD nor Samsung have ever addressed this issue in over 2 years means I will never purchase another Samsung display.
22:16 it hurts my brain that "acceptable hdr performance on all gpus" has to be included in the checklist now, truly absurd. (i really like this new checklist btw, great job)
@@ChaitanyaShukla2503 I'm saying this as a neutral, Non-shill, Non-fanboy of any description: You are 100% Correct! I Have owned a few Samsung monitors in my time, and they always butcher something lol
Nice review, thank you. I have the model w/o the smart TV integration and am super happy with it. I use it for productivity, and I decided to comment, because I completely disagree with what you say about this monitor for desktop use and productivity. For burn in, you'd have to put in hundreds of hours of the same image in the same spot on the screen (at maximum brightness) to even get some image retention, let alone burn-in. Really, what you are saying about burn-in is really not an issue anymore these days. About the reflectivity... as long as you are not having any direct light from behind you (which falls directly on the screen), it is not an issue at all. I was worried about this at first as well, because in all the reviews I have seen before I ordered mine, it was mentioned, but it feels like a lot of these reviewers are just looking really hard to come up with something to complain about (same with everybody mentioning burn-in which is really not an issue for the average user). This OLED screen beats any other panel IMHO, also for productivity. I miss the remote that comes with the more expensive model that you reviewed though. I do have a bit of buyers remorse over not getting the more expensive model... so if anyone is still in doubt and it fits their budget: just go for the one reviewed here & enjoy!
have you experiencied 4k 32''? I'm looking if I move from a 4k 32 IPS to this for both, productivity and gaming but I wonder if the lower vertical resolution/screen size would be a drawback for image sharpness and games that may not support this native resolution
@@omsa831 sorry for the late response, but I have not used 4k 32". I thought this 49" is basically a 4k screen, and since it is OLED, it is definitely going to be a huge step up from an IPS screen. However, for gaming, I don't think 49" is supported very often, which will leave you with two major black bars on each side of the screen. Probably something to consider. I use the 49" at home, and when I work in the office, the desks are equipped with 32" screens. To be very honest, 32" suffices for me too. In hindsight, 32" would have been fine for me as well, since I usually don't use the very far ends of my 49" screen that much. Something to consider for yourself, in case you have not decided yet 🙂 GL!
This monitor looks quite impressive, but what I would really like to know is the current state of support of such extremely wide aspect ratio monitors. What games support it out of the box, what games are easily tweakable or patchable for such support, what problems could I expect from games and even from the OS itself? This is basically my main gripe with such monitors. I've had a wide monitor before and I was not satisfied with the experience, to say it mildly. Maybe you could make a video, specifically covering wide aspect ratio monitors and everything around them.
I’ve owned multiple 32:9 monitors the last 4 years. The best use-case currently is for productivity. Splitting the desk space into three windows. Left, center, right applications.
So I had the same questions and decided to try it out and return it if I didn't like it. Id say a surprising amount of games do support the aspect ratio from what I've tried. Cyber punk, league, the finals, palworld, firewatch, for the king, apex, assetto corsa, fortnite and a few others. Most games that don't do 32:9 do 21:9 and the black bars honestly aren't that annoying, I mean its black, nothingness, so I don't know why people complain so much. I use it for school a lot too for programming ect so I think it's really nice in that respect. My biggest problem with the monitor is that is means you need a better than normal graphics card to max out settings on it because of how much more it has to render.
As a rule of thumb, most modern games that released for the last years support ultrawide out of the box. Most, but certainly not all, Elden Ring e.g. does not support it properly. The widescreen gaming forum has information on most of the games, new and old, wether they support ultra wide aspect ratio and often give examples on how to fix it for older games.
Your best best is to go to PCGW and search for the game you are interested in. There they have listed if it has widescreen support and many other important PC centric features and fixes for every specific game.
@@SilentNoSeven I'd like to correct you here. Elden Ring has native ultrawide support, and will actually natively render the game in the full ultrawide aspect ratio until the ratio limiter added by fromsoftware kicks in. Yes, you heard correct, FromSoftware is very directly, and very specifically adding artificial black bars to Elden Ring, a game that has complete native support for ultrawide.
Love the new checklist, has all of those little features that you want to look out for but can never find through all of the marketing and poor retail listings.
I’m looking to buy an ultrawide, and I’m interested in how the AOC 49inch offering stacks up against the Samsung and ASUS models, especially given the large price differential. Any chance on a video specifically looking at the 49 inch monitors Tim?
I ADORE this monitor, bought it last week and having a blast so far, the only thing i dislike is the port spots, since the monitor is super wide it is sometimes so hard for me to reach to the ports without moving the monitor. Besides that it is perfect.
I've had the OG G9 (Edge lit LCD 49") since after release. Wonderful monitor. That said, window snapping is a must. I feel like this monitor is the absolute worst use-case for an OLED which would lead to burn in. I love my G9 and would like an OLED if they fix burn in. However, I will never buy an OLED ultra wide screen until burn in is not an issue.
my boyfriend has used a 55" oled lg c1 as his main pc monitor for almost 3y now and has 0 burn in. and i also have some other friends who have different oleds, also no burn in. just take some precautions and its not really a problem anymore. i was the same as you but im seriously considering to swap in my G9 Neo to either g9 oled or another big uw oled
@@SlyFoxl So why isnt every company giving us a 10yr burn-in warranty, just for the peace of mind? No one should return monitors with burn in any way according to you.
@@Snappydadshoes Rtings has a good video regarding worst case scenarios regarding oled with burn in and image retention. Im not saying its flawless and doesnt happen, its just abit exaggerated.
@@hittintrees 🙄. Thats not what i said or meant. Its just abit exaggerated regarding burn in and image retention. Simple precautions like turning it off when not in use, screensaver, dont blast it at max brightness and so on helps against it. Rtings has a nice "10month continous power on" video regarding oled and its issues that also shows this. In 99% of the use case for pc users they wont be anywhere near that torment.
picked it up when there was the deal to get it for $800 last year and it has been amazing at that price point. I've seen it drop to $1000 still and we probably will see it in that range again soon prior to the refresh for the 2024 model so I'd say it's a strong buy at those lower price points
I have to clarify OLED for productivity usage once and for all. I am using LG C2 WOLED every day for coding and stuff almost 2 years and there is zero burn-in and text clarity is excellent. Let me introduce you to displays used in corporations - when I come to the office all monitors have worse DPI and absolutely horrible blurry text rendering because it is the cheapest crap - this is true for all coding jobs in all companies I worked in as contractor or employee. I can guarantee you ANY new OLED will be beautiful to your eyes in comparison to any monitor used in any (not only IT company), at least in my country.
Great review. One thing I found disappointing on mine was the fact that the USB ports would NOT hold the cables in place. They would just fall out. Samsung support was useless and I ended up purchasing a powered USB hub to resolve the issue. Other than that I love the monitor, great for gaming and productivity. I also have LG dual up monitor right next to it for viewing documents. In regard to the burn in issue, I was concerned. I enabled the Samsung anti-burn in mode (it was actually on from factory), I also have a "lively wallpaper" background on my screen that slowly moves pixels around, just in case.
What’s with you against glossy finish? Matte coatings and other films are horrible. You lose color and sharpness yet you here saying how glossy is horrible. Who plays all day in daylight? Everybody I know plays in the dark/nighttime. Glossy is the way to go for picture but I do agree we need the OPTION. Choose whether we want Glossy or Matte
There is an g93sc version of that monitor that, in my region (France), costs 300 to 400€ less. The specs look to be identical, but with no smart TV capabilities. This could mean lower input latency, less "high contrast" or general bloat BS and an overall easier monitor to use (maybe even solve the freesync premium pro HDR issues ??), at the tradeoff of less precise calibration control. Idk, a "Tizen-less" version of this monitor might be worth looking into
This is the version of the G9 OLED that I have (without Tizen), it was heavily discounted during Black Week, down from its normal 2100 euro to 1400 euro here in Sweden. The version with Tizen costs about 2200 euro here 😅
Input latency he literally said it won’t make a difference , bloat BS and easier use I can get why you want non smart But to me the input latency is no issue he said in his video that it isn’t an issue more like a margin of error and won’t ever be noticeable I for one have this monitor and I like it and use the smart features and don’t find it “hard to use” so I think this is BS point but to each their own
Finally a review! Bought the oled G9 over half a year ago, and already upgraded to the 57” neo g9 months later. Hopefully you’ll do a review for that one too. :)
@@lorsch. Mainly because all the other g9’s that I own are lousy for office work. I have the original neo g9, the oled g9 and now the 57” neo g9. The 57” was the first where I could read small text. At 150% scaling it works very well. The others, with their much lower resolution, need 200% to be easily readable. A clear win for the 57”model. It is also much brighter than the oled version, and doesn’t suffer from burn-in.
@@ettepet9308 You might want to get your eyes checked if 110 PPI is too low for you to read text clearly even with the slight dithering issue OLEDs have, I'm not using hyperbole here. The text scaling is intended for use on dimensionally large screens like TVs, the 57 inch Neo G9 is the same as two 30 (ish) inch 4K monitors, IE normal sized screens, you should *not* need any form of scaling to read text on the 5120x1440 panel let alone the Neo G9s panel.
In my humble opinion, excellent review loved it. However i request big companies to at least respond to content creator emails. He seems to be almost everywhere in his video. The review will be bit more soft despite of critics.
I have the original 120 Hz VA panel on my 49" Samsung. I use it for productivity more than gaming so that the OLED panel is not a good option for me. Also, I normally run it in dual 27" mode, often more than 12 hours per day. Consequently, I like the dual DP availability on my model. Unfortunately, this updated monitor is not a good match for me. Thanks for your typical professional review.
I dreaded putting this on my christmas list without a hardware unboxed review. I need to figure out the color tuning but it has been a good replacement for 2 34inch pixio 1440p monitors. Games are just incredible.
FYI: So, not all G9s are the same. They just announced a new G9 model at CES 2024. I'm looking at three: the LS49CG952ENXZA (VA Panel), which is the latest 2024 version with a brighter RGB backlight; and the older ones, LS49CG954SNXZA and LS49CG932SNXZA, both OLED. Some have Smart TV apps, others are just plain monitors - pretty confusing, right? I'm thinking about getting an OLED for work stuff, but I'm worried about screen burn-in since they don't have any special protection against it
all OLED G9s have automatic OLED protection, they will pixel shift the entire screen near seamlessly to protect against burn in if static images sit too long, it also has logo detection and other care setting.
I bought this Samsung G9 from Amazon. After 2.5 years of ownership and not using the monitor heavily, the monitor started to give a blank screen. I called Samsung, and they told me I should have bought the extended warranty and they can't help me. This is a manufacturing issue and is an EXTREMELY COMMON ISSUE. I wouldn't have purchased this knowing Samsung doesn't stand by their very expensive monitor. I WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER SAMSUNG PRODUCT AGAIN!!!
I got the OLED G8 a few months ago and I've really been enjoying it. I don't think I would like a version that's this wide though, and I definitely wouldn't have the room for it. I would also imagine it would be even more demanding than the G8 already is with there being more screen space for the GPU to have to account for. I recently built a 4090 system that I want to last for years, but I feel like a monitor like this would only make it last a couple of years before I'd have to start lowering some settings. To each their own though. I know a lot of people love these super wide monitors.
You would be wrong. My single 1080Ti lasted 5 years powering a 7680x1440 triple monitor gaming setup without ever going below Ultra settings. I also have a 4090 now which I upgraded to from that 1080Ti and expect the same.
I recently got the Philips Evnia 49m2c8900, which uses the exact same Panel, but also has a KVM + USB-C PD which is great for work, plus philips grants a 3 year OLED warranty, which basically makes it a better version of the OLED G9. And I love it! Cant say I notice any text fringing at all and its a overall great experience to use this thing for gaming, as well as heavy productivity, excel heavy work!
Hey, so how it is in HDR after 3 month? Did you get the unibright removal option firmware update, isn't there auto dimming anymore in HDR? Is HDR1000's inaccurate overbrightness fixed yet? Aren't Ambi lights too dim and slow to sync?
@@vironchaidemenidis9997 it’s still Holding up Great and im Overall happy. OLED‘s still fine and no Burn in at all, although i work a lot with Spreadsheets, etc.
Tim, you can disable the HDR freesync premium pro pipeline on AMD with CRU. Delete the freesync range and add it again. Customers shouldn't have to do this.
I got one of these for my son at Christmas and I'm finding that sometimes its text rendering in Windows is appalling, so washed out to the point of being unusable. It seems to fix itself after gaming but I'm not really sure what the cause is. After watching this review I'll try disabling the contrast feature and enable auto color space to see if that improves things. I also found it a bit difficult to understand how to unlock the full potential of this monitor, i.e. 240Hz and HDR. Am I right in saying you must run it in the Gaming mode to do so? For HDR gaming does HDR need to be enabled in Windows, or will the games automatically switch to HDR output? Would be great to include aspects like this in your reviews.
I ordered this monitor in december last year and returned it afer 2 weeks. While this monitor is really nice to look at all the rest was not great. This is my own perspective as a simracer ofc. The monitor has pixelshift as protection for led burn in. After a few long sessions of simracing the monitor would turn off from overheating. This for me was a big no go. All the standby features were turned off but it would still just power off. Also the brightness is not enough imho. Returned it and went for a normal G9 240hrz and 1ms. Cheaper en better and not so fragile.
I just bought the Odyssey G8 for 700 USD... 1800 USD for a monitor is crazy, I had to wait a year for QD-OLED ultrawides to drop in price. Not to mention, what kind of GPU can handle 5120x1440???? That's basically 4K monitor.
Literally just got mine when this video was uploaded, crazy timing. Got it for 1400 Euros, which is okay I think considering its basically 3 monitors. MSRP at release was insane though. Can confirm theres some text fringing but I only noticed it when it was mentioned in the video. I have to move my face like, onto the display itself to see it. So its not an issue imo. I think the monitor is super easy to setup physically, so thats a plus (I recommend 2 people) but it does wobble a bit when something hits the desk, so the stability of the stand isnt perfect. I may buy an ergo arm after all. The monitor gets plenty bright, almost too bright, it lights up my entire room by itself if I let it. No idea why anyone would need anything brighter unless your office is in your garden and your garden happens to be in the sahara. I had some weird twitching of the picture outta the box, changing resolution back and forth fixed it. Theoretically I like the smart TV features, but I agree its bloated. Like, theres all sorts of apps on it that are totally niche. Setting everything up on first start is also a pain, the monitor should just work straight up and if someone wants to use "smart" features THEN they can set them up. Dont use them to block me using the device. The built in speakers suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Do not use them. My ears hurt now. Overall my first impression is: Good panel, bloated OS, overwhelmingly huge.
WoW! No HDR on AMD! That's a NO BUY FOR ME! I was really thinking about buying this monitor to pair with my 7900XTX. What a shame. Now Asus's 144Hz option isn't looking so bad.
I know I'm one of probably like 5 people who care, but one nice thing would be to know how it handles a 4:3 or 5:4 input from an older PC or other source. With my LG 27GP850 I have to manually switch it between 16:9 and 4:3 when using my older retro-ish PC (Win XP), or it'll stretch the 4:3 image into 16:9. It can't handle 5:4 at all. Some monitors can automatically handle different aspect ratios, adding black bars as necessary. With an even older PC this might be fine because 4:3 would be what I'd want all the time anyway, but XP games often did ship with widescreen support so it's a bit annoying having to switch back and forth. This generally isn't an issue with modern PCs, as you can use the graphics card driver settings to tell the computer to do the scaling locally before ever sending the image to the screen. I totally understand if this isn't something you consider worth the time to test.
@@lorsch. yeah that's why it's better to get one of the new 27 or 32 inch QD-OLEDs for 16:9 content. This monitor is specifically for gaming and nothing else. 4:3 and 5:4 content on the other hand you might be better of getting a good CRT xD.
um. i was gonna buy it for work/gaming at my home office, but the burn in problem mentioned seems to be an issue since I work with static contents for 8 - 14 hours a day. 32:9 is so nice to have for work and games. I was just planning on 21:9 most games put it in the center and have the sides for discord/web Also Samsung not providing a warranty even when their warranties are shit doesn't give me confidence to shell out so much money.
If anyone cares :) @22:10 The monitor doesn't support Dolby Vision true. But it supports HDR10+ (which in all effect it is Dolby Vision. HDR10: One time config. of min/max brightness. HDR10+ Dynamic luminance/contrast support. Dolby Vision = HDR10+ minus royalties to Dolby :P ) The monitor has a lot of features to prevent "burn-in" as well :) Too bad those aren't covered (this is valid for all Oled monitor reviews) Very solid review! The crappy factory calibration, was the first thing I had to address as well.. Such a shame, because once calibrated it gives an awesome image :D
Would love to see a review of the G9 57", the newest and biggest version of G9. I use my monitor for 3D work and gaming so I can't buy OLED with risk of burn in, and sub-pixel issues.
I wish you would have mentioned the firmware version you used to test and review the product. I’ve been using this monitor without updating the firmware because in firmware version 1023, Samsung disabled the Peak Brightness setting when using it in SDR mode, which makes everything a bit dimmer. I don’t want to lose that feature by updating, but if your SDR results were based on the newer firmware, then I would consider updating.
@@fvallo " and text looks perfect even at close range" Yeah this is cope. Thats why some new OLED monitors have text clarity features in their software lmao. Will be less noticeable at 4K though, but at 1440p it 100% is. Of course it hurts to admit when you have spent over a grand on a monitor that will burn in in a few years, I understand.
Hi mate, My friend brought a G9 Neo about 6 months ago from Samsung, I decided to go ahead and order one but they aren't listed on Samsung website anymore, is this one in your video an updated version of the Neo?
Never thought I would but I got tired of ultrawide monitors. I really don't get the appeal in super ultrawide. Even though it's supposedly huge, it doesn't feel big because it has no height.
I dont get it, what is the diff between 8 hours of desktop work and 8 hours of gaming where in gaming there are plenty of ui elements that never move. Wont that burn in just the same ?
It is listed under the mounting type as "VESA Mount". However, customer reviews are mixed with some mentioning the Vesa mount adapter was not included in the box. Did yours?
Thanks for this review! Been waiting for this!. Sorry that Samsung messed you around...typical. My experience matches your thoughts. I love the display and got it before playing Alan Wake II which looks just gorgeous on it. Didn't know about the contrast enhancer but this what I rely on you for. With all the caveats, this is the one I was waiting for and have no regrets.
This monitor looks really good but the lack of USB-C video input and power delivery as well as lack of KVM switch is kinda disappointing. Do you think the MSI 491CQP is a better buy? The G9 is $2299 and the MSI is $1999 in New Zealand. I prefer the sleek look of the Samsung but the MSI seems to have way more features including the things I mentioned before which is tempting to me since I have a gaming PC and a MacBook Pro so being able to plug in my MacBook with one cable and have access to power, display, keyboard and mouse is amazing. The 144hz of the MSI is a little bit of a bummer compared to 240hz on the Samsung but honestly 144hz is still heaps and I think the USB-C, KVM and power delivers kinda sways me in the MSI direction. What are your thoughts? Which one would you buy? I'm gonna wait for a sale before I buy anyway so I have some time to think and maybe price will answer the question for me anyway.
I'm considering the G93SC non-smart variant after having been on the AW3423DWF since it's release, the price has dropped to around 1050-1100 euros, with the deepest sale so far to 950, so I'm hoping it drops to 950 again or even 900 during black friday / cyber monday just a few weeks from now. Since I'm in the EU I'd have 2 years warranty via the retailer so that covers that a bit and I have a nvidia gpu luckily (although it was pretty close between this and amd). Otherwise I'm buying another AW3423DWF which have dropped to 750 euros now because I love it so much and because 1st gen QD-OLED panels are now EOL, so these monitors are only still in stock as long as supply lasts.
Going to take a lot to get me to move away from my FV43U. Much prefer a larger overall screen at higher res than a super wide. It doesn't have the oled contrast but my god the brightness and colors are incredible on that screen.
Hi @monitorsunboxed, have you had a chance to look at the "Samsung Odyssey OLED G93SC" ?? most interested to hear if there is any change to the max peak brightness in NITs between using an AMD or NVIDIA GPU. Longtime viewer of your channels Keep up the great work !!!
I treated myself to one of these after having started a new job, and I'll be getting mine on Monday. I owned the G9 Neo that despite the scanline issues, I absolutely loved. All my other displays are OLED and it's definitely hard to go back to anything else. Definitely looking forward to it.
Love your reviews, there's just one thing in general about OLEDs which you consistently mention and it's not clear to me. How come that gaming is not a concern for burn-in, when a lot of games have a fairly static HUD which I would think it's a major burn-in risk? Maybe you explained it in some of the earlier videos, but I missed it. Cheers!
It is. People go on and on and on and on about it. All monitors and TVs have pixel refreshes and shifters to make it less of an issue, and usually decent warranties which include burn in.
Pixel shifting, pixel cleaning, panel refresh, there are also other features like static content and logo detection like hud elements or UI stuff. Where the display will dim that specific section to heavily reduce burn in or uniformity issues. As mentioned before as well too if any burn in is detected running the pixel refresher has reversed nearly all of it even with thousands of hours of no mitigations enabled and static content being forced 24/7.
I’m hardly a professional monitor reviewer, but I’d imagine it’s related to the fact that very few people leave their games running while away from the screen. HUD elements probably would have a small risk of causing burn in, but it’s much more likely that an open google docs page is simply going to sit there for several minutes or even hours without change. If the hud elements change at all these risks are even more minimal (ammo count, health, red creeping onto the edges of the screen when hurt). I think you are right that in theory there is a risk, but they are rarely on the screen and truly static for an entire session. In between rounds they may go away, or cinematics happen, etc. Windows pages aren’t going to do that though, which is where the risk comes from
@@solkvist8668 This doesn't really make sense. People are going to sit and play a game for many hours on end and many games have a purely static HUD. The real reason burn in isn't a major issue is people will swap up games and not play the same game for 1500+ hours. Burn in is very real even for gamers if you do plan to a play a game that long and it doesn't matter at all if you take breaks as to what burn in is and how it works.
yeah but everytime you open the map or the journal menus the screens completely change, the hud doesn't stay on. Or loading in and out of multiplayer matches.. it shifts. Even twice an hour is good enough when combined with the other protections.@@lilpain1997
I have this monitor and stepped up from a LG 34UC79G, just amazing to use. I got it for a good deal when it came out (£1360 with free Galaxy Buds Pro 2) so it was absolutely worth it for me.
5:04 Noooooo! PCs cannot run streaming apps just fine, they are mostly limited to 1080p or lower resolutions, with only Netflix having the ability to play 4K on PC but still no HDR and ONLY by specifically streaming over Microsoft Edge, not even their app will do 4k. Even so, you will still get blocky, heavily compressed streaming when compared to TV apps. And if you're using other streaming services, oh my oh my, you're in for 2007 levels of streaming quality. PC is VERY limited when it comes to streaming copyrighted video content.
They are not worth waiting for until the change the subpixels to RGWB. This won't happen until Q4 of this year. Even then the matt panels would be questionable, the price will make or break them.@@TheSavageB
Would there be any chance of you reviewing the ASUS PG32UQXR? I know it has a higher price tag, but 4k 160hz, DP 2.1, MiniLED backlight, and high DCI-P3 coverage would be like heaven on earth for me and many others. A review from you is almost quite literally the only thing keeping me from snagging it.
Where are the settings used? Multiple times this review mentions how importqnt proper settings are but there are not clear deacriptions of those settings
I bought this monitor on an Amazon Prime sale a few weeks ago for $1100.00 with tax....best deal for the money! You do need to make adjustments and use good cables. So far so good. I use it for graphics, animations, photo editing and video watching with the included apps.
@@VoidBass6412 it was only worth it to me when it went on sale, $800 dollers off at that time, I did get a firmware update about a week after i got it, its been a month now, so far so good. Some of the problem people talked about went away with better cables and onscreen adjustments I found from another youtube video. The funny thing that when its hooked to my companies worksatation laptop, no problems at all.
Thank you for the review, although from my perspective, a little later than usual. 😀I already bought the OLED G9 and use it as my daily driver at home, something the 21:9 Alienware just could not obtain for me, since it was to small for my use case.
I found two vertical bands near the edge of the frame and I would prefer not to have them if I'm honest. what about compensation cycles? Is it like the LG monitors that improve after several cycles every 4 hours?
Great professional review. Keep the independency. Nevertheless I am still lost which Monitor I should go for with the intention for high end gaming with NVIDIA GPU RTX 4090. They all have pros and cons. Nothing is perfect.
picture by picture for productivity is it worth it? am I gonna have blur in?.Btw regarding picture by picture can I have a ultrawide screen size 34 and small 15inch display on the side?
I have the same monitor, and it's great for gaming and productivity use. I haven't had any issues with burn in after using it heavily for almost 1 year. The only thing that I dislike about it is the height. It should have been at least 1600px in height as it's very wide but vertically cramped in it's current state. Also if someone really cares about high level fps play then this monitor is not as good as 240hz+ TN monitors with bfs from the likes of Asus and BenQ (the G9 is great but my much cheaper 27" BenQ is better) It's perfect for other types of games like dota, rocket league, single player etc.
I have the G8, which I got for $800 on Black Friday with an additional $150 for a 4 year burn-in and defect warranty (basically covers everything but accidental damage to the monitor itself). I use it as both a third monitor for gaming as well as a TV. I wouldn't have paid more than $1000 because of the lack of a polarizer.
5:55 Pretty sure there's an option to go directly to the source input without going through the home menu when you turn the monitor, my QN90B TV that I use as a monitor has it.
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FYI depending on your region, there's also a version of the G9 without the smart TV components for a cheaper price
Right now the g95sc is cheaper than the g93sc on amazon lol
in Canada the one without smart functiuon is now the same price since the smart function one is on sale. I think the one without smart function is a better option for most people
@devinlauderdale9635 I was thinking msrp but fair haha; definitely depends on which one is on sale at the time
@RSURRECTED I've seen the g93sc dip below the current price but yeah really depends on which one is on sale at what time. I've got the 93 and I've had no reason to wish I had the 95. If I wanna watch TV, I'll just go turn on my TV
@@RSURRECTEDFor everyone. Internet connected tvs are unsecure AF and get hacked all the time by people and glowies.
Big fan of the updated checklists at the end - fantastic summary of some things that are often hard to find info for.
Yes, the checklist is an amazing! Great work Tim!
I bought one in the launch day in Brazil last year. To me is a dream come true after owning the first G9 and G9 NEO. This OLED image quality is simply perfect, the only small gripe is that I prefer the tighter 1000R curve of the older versions.
Exactly the same situation, more curve needed, otherwise, perfect
why do u have so many monitors? wasting money bcoz u can or genuine use case?
I was experimenting a lot in the last year or so waiting for this OLED, I have returned several of the previous 32x9 samsung monitors because Q/A wise they were horrible. in between returns and exchanges my bestbuy rep would let me take something else in the mean time meaning I got to sample many.
Currently, I have an LG C1 48 as my office monitor as it burns in slowest, and is under a warranty. for my desktop at home I've settled on the oled G9, however the 27 inch LG 240 hz monitor I tried was fantastic it just was not big enough for me.
I also have a Samsung 65 inch OLED 95B, for my TV.
I have also bought and sampled many other monitors for friends and companies I work for as I'm a self employed IT/Pc Builder. Im quite good friends with most of them so I can have a lot of hands on time with very nice monitors make sure they work well, and then sell them, return them, even just borrow them before they get deployed.
However I don't think ill be buying anything new for myself for a few years, it will be some time until single player experiences can each the limits of this monitor.
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or did u mean the globo guy? because I know I comment on quite a few of these lol@@Dark.Syndicate
yes. notifications get sent out to everyone for some reason.@@andrewmoon3409
I recommend the Oled G93SC instead of this one for an easier OSD layout.
It's the same monitor without the smart tv functionality.
I am so glad Tim finally reviews this monitor. The G9 series imo is the peak of monitor technology for sim based games.
I just wish it was 57" at the same resolution.
yeah it is, shame about the horrible quality issues that has plagued the g9 series since the beginning..
and ill have to disclaim ive been rocking g9 for 2y now
yo stop following me around filip! i was just watching the wooting 80% vid before and ur comment was the first one there as well as here for me, was like "wait a minute, i just saw this guy somewhere" and went back to check lmao have a good one mate 👋
@@_O1_ Hahaha, what a small app. Lol, guess I'm a little famous now. Thanks for the comment, it made my day.😂😁
Might be ok for ground based sims like F1 etc but a waste of money for flight sims. These ultrawides are pathetic for vertical FOV therefore a a waste of money for flight sims. As soon as they come out with a 4K @120 Hz (fast enough for my sims) that is around 48" then I will join the queue till then they are oddities for me.
I have not seen the review yet, but I would like to point out that there exists the G93SC as well which I have purchased. It is the same monitor but without the smart hub features.
Interesting but what I am really looking forward to is a review of the new 32" 4K OLED monitors, particularly the Dell AW3225QF.
That's what i am sayin too
Me too
me three
Me four
39" oled monitors for me 👨🍳😘👌
Looks really good. Now just need a review of the 57" G9. That panel looks insane.
OLED....or nothing.
@@drunkhusband6257G9 57 is generally better than OLED 49 because of its size and very high resolution despite lower color gamut and a bit of blooming.
Really great updates checking at the end of the review. Also thank you for checking for the differences between the amd and nvidia gpus.
Thanks for this review. I ended up purchasing this monitor because of it. I've been using it for about a month now, and I am not disappointed. I have always been a dual monitor to gamer and was apprehensive about the switch. I have no doubts now, this was a good purchase. The colors and feel while in the game are really amazing. While it's not the best resolution scale for counterstrike, the response time, and refresh rate is. Again, thanks for the video. Without it, I would t of been convinced to purchase.
This guy is the most detail, especific, and inteligent reviewer on the entire planet.
I have had my G9 for 3 weeks. I really like the monitor but, have changed my use of the monitor to attempt to stave off burn in. Active wall paper, moving my windows around while using, full screening youtube etc. I have been very impressed so far.
dont be too paranoid about burn in, yes its there but so long u have basic care (hide taskbar, set savescreens, avoid unnecesary static images aka no 8h of excel a day) you'll be fine, if you need to use youtube at windowed so'll be it, it'll be fine
Turn your brightness down as much as possible during desktop times.
I have a lg CX since about 2021. No burn in yet (and I've looked) and it's only run the pixel refresh twice or so.
Also darkreader browser extension.
I use it for desktop 8-12 hours a day and it's not even qdled so you should be good mate.
imagine doing all these silly things just to use a monitor, lmao. just buy an LCD
@@KatoYutoberight, I still game with an ips panel, not the best but I’m not about to pay $1k+ to have to babysit a monitor
Ordered Oled G9 without Smart functions today, i really can't wait too unbox this beast of a monitor! Thanks for your work on the review!
i have it and you gonna be really happy with it
@@canpehlivan2497 sounds good, its on the way in post now 👌
For anyone using an Samsung OLED G8 with an AMD GPU, it is possible to reach 1000nits by applying one change in CRU (custom resolution utility) and in the monitor service menu. After those changes, the monitor switches to the regular HDR pipeline and 1000nits are achievable. Maybe those tweaks are applicable to the G9 aswell even though that's no excuse for Samsung's lack of official fixes for that problem.
Make a tutorial
CRU Tweak quoted from redd (credits to u/kr0mka):
Basically select the monitor in CRU, open up the CTA-861 extension block with the edit button, then remove the Freesync range that already exists there and add the freesync range back again (48-175hz). This will force the monitor to go back to Freesync Premium (instead of Premium Pro) and you'll be able to check that when going into the display status menu (middle button on the remote) and also the ST2084 gamma along with GameHDR mode should be available (after PC restart). The way it works is CRU doesn't support Freesync Premium Pro and when recreating it by adding the new datablock there it only creates data that makes it identify as a regular Freesync Premium monitor.@@victorolmos3639
CRU tweak quoted from redd (credits to kr0mka)
Basically select the monitor in CRU, open up the CTA-861 extension block with the edit button, then remove the Freesync range that already exists there and add the freesync range back again (48-175hz). This will change the monitor to go back to Freesync Premium (instead of Premium Pro) and you'll be able to check that when going into the display status menu (middle button on the remote) and also the ST2084 gamma along with GameHDR mode should be available (after PC restart). The way it works is CRU doesn't support Freesync Premium Pro and when recreating it by adding the new datablock there it only creates data that makes it identify as a regular Freesync Premium monitor.@@victorolmos3639
Keep your eyes safe, guys, 1000 nits is downright harmful.
@@EbselSU This is exactly the same fix I have to use with my Samsung QN90A TV to get HDR working properly with an AMD card, the fact that neither AMD nor Samsung have ever addressed this issue in over 2 years means I will never purchase another Samsung display.
Man i fell in love with the gloss look, my room is always pretty dark so reflections are a none issue for me
22:16 it hurts my brain that "acceptable hdr performance on all gpus" has to be included in the checklist now, truly absurd. (i really like this new checklist btw, great job)
Eh, wouldn't surprise me if the issue here with the HDR is actually AMD's fault. 😅
@@Napoleonic_S Samsung has a long history of making terrible monitors(QC and firmware front) so lets wait for more details.
@@ChaitanyaShukla2503 As someone who bought and quickly returned their mini LED Neo G8, can confirm.
@@ChaitanyaShukla2503 I'm saying this as a neutral, Non-shill, Non-fanboy of any description: You are 100% Correct! I Have owned a few Samsung monitors in my time, and they always butcher something lol
Don't go AMD, easy, buy trashy GPUs get trashy performance and HDR too LMAO
Nice review, thank you.
I have the model w/o the smart TV integration and am super happy with it.
I use it for productivity, and I decided to comment, because I completely disagree with what you say about this monitor for desktop use and productivity. For burn in, you'd have to put in hundreds of hours of the same image in the same spot on the screen (at maximum brightness) to even get some image retention, let alone burn-in. Really, what you are saying about burn-in is really not an issue anymore these days.
About the reflectivity... as long as you are not having any direct light from behind you (which falls directly on the screen), it is not an issue at all. I was worried about this at first as well, because in all the reviews I have seen before I ordered mine, it was mentioned, but it feels like a lot of these reviewers are just looking really hard to come up with something to complain about (same with everybody mentioning burn-in which is really not an issue for the average user).
This OLED screen beats any other panel IMHO, also for productivity. I miss the remote that comes with the more expensive model that you reviewed though. I do have a bit of buyers remorse over not getting the more expensive model... so if anyone is still in doubt and it fits their budget: just go for the one reviewed here & enjoy!
Thank you for this comment. You addressed all my concerns.
have you experiencied 4k 32''? I'm looking if I move from a 4k 32 IPS to this for both, productivity and gaming but I wonder if the lower vertical resolution/screen size would be a drawback for image sharpness and games that may not support this native resolution
@@omsa831 sorry for the late response, but I have not used 4k 32". I thought this 49" is basically a 4k screen, and since it is OLED, it is definitely going to be a huge step up from an IPS screen. However, for gaming, I don't think 49" is supported very often, which will leave you with two major black bars on each side of the screen. Probably something to consider. I use the 49" at home, and when I work in the office, the desks are equipped with 32" screens. To be very honest, 32" suffices for me too. In hindsight, 32" would have been fine for me as well, since I usually don't use the very far ends of my 49" screen that much. Something to consider for yourself, in case you have not decided yet 🙂 GL!
thanks for your enormous effort Tim 🙂
This monitor looks quite impressive, but what I would really like to know is the current state of support of such extremely wide aspect ratio monitors. What games support it out of the box, what games are easily tweakable or patchable for such support, what problems could I expect from games and even from the OS itself? This is basically my main gripe with such monitors. I've had a wide monitor before and I was not satisfied with the experience, to say it mildly. Maybe you could make a video, specifically covering wide aspect ratio monitors and everything around them.
I’ve owned multiple 32:9 monitors the last 4 years. The best use-case currently is for productivity. Splitting the desk space into three windows. Left, center, right applications.
So I had the same questions and decided to try it out and return it if I didn't like it. Id say a surprising amount of games do support the aspect ratio from what I've tried. Cyber punk, league, the finals, palworld, firewatch, for the king, apex, assetto corsa, fortnite and a few others. Most games that don't do 32:9 do 21:9 and the black bars honestly aren't that annoying, I mean its black, nothingness, so I don't know why people complain so much. I use it for school a lot too for programming ect so I think it's really nice in that respect. My biggest problem with the monitor is that is means you need a better than normal graphics card to max out settings on it because of how much more it has to render.
As a rule of thumb, most modern games that released for the last years support ultrawide out of the box. Most, but certainly not all, Elden Ring e.g. does not support it properly. The widescreen gaming forum has information on most of the games, new and old, wether they support ultra wide aspect ratio and often give examples on how to fix it for older games.
Your best best is to go to PCGW and search for the game you are interested in. There they have listed if it has widescreen support and many other important PC centric features and fixes for every specific game.
@@SilentNoSeven I'd like to correct you here. Elden Ring has native ultrawide support, and will actually natively render the game in the full ultrawide aspect ratio until the ratio limiter added by fromsoftware kicks in. Yes, you heard correct, FromSoftware is very directly, and very specifically adding artificial black bars to Elden Ring, a game that has complete native support for ultrawide.
Loving the new checklist! Great stuff when you want to go back and compare multiple products.
Excellent review as always. Can’t wait for your review of the AW3225QF!
Love the new checklist, has all of those little features that you want to look out for but can never find through all of the marketing and poor retail listings.
Absolutely appreciate how thorough this is. Thank you!
I’m looking to buy an ultrawide, and I’m interested in how the AOC 49inch offering stacks up against the Samsung and ASUS models, especially given the large price differential. Any chance on a video specifically looking at the 49 inch monitors Tim?
I ADORE this monitor, bought it last week and having a blast so far, the only thing i dislike is the port spots, since the monitor is super wide it is sometimes so hard for me to reach to the ports without moving the monitor. Besides that it is perfect.
Are you in the habit of plugging and unplugging the monitor on a regular basis?
nope@@TheSocialGamer
I've had the OG G9 (Edge lit LCD 49") since after release. Wonderful monitor. That said, window snapping is a must. I feel like this monitor is the absolute worst use-case for an OLED which would lead to burn in. I love my G9 and would like an OLED if they fix burn in. However, I will never buy an OLED ultra wide screen until burn in is not an issue.
my boyfriend has used a 55" oled lg c1 as his main pc monitor for almost 3y now and has 0 burn in. and i also have some other friends who have different oleds, also no burn in. just take some precautions and its not really a problem anymore. i was the same as you but im seriously considering to swap in my G9 Neo to either g9 oled or another big uw oled
@@SlyFoxl So why isnt every company giving us a 10yr burn-in warranty, just for the peace of mind? No one should return monitors with burn in any way according to you.
@SlyFoxl LTT showed the burn in due to window snapping and productivity use. There's no way I trust any OLED unless its for movie or game play only.
@@Snappydadshoes Rtings has a good video regarding worst case scenarios regarding oled with burn in and image retention.
Im not saying its flawless and doesnt happen, its just abit exaggerated.
@@hittintrees 🙄. Thats not what i said or meant.
Its just abit exaggerated regarding burn in and image retention. Simple precautions like turning it off when not in use, screensaver, dont blast it at max brightness and so on helps against it.
Rtings has a nice "10month continous power on" video regarding oled and its issues that also shows this.
In 99% of the use case for pc users they wont be anywhere near that torment.
I appreciate yalls hard work as always. Keep up the great content.
Having no TV in my room, and lights on my PC I love the TV support.
picked it up when there was the deal to get it for $800 last year and it has been amazing at that price point. I've seen it drop to $1000 still and we probably will see it in that range again soon prior to the refresh for the 2024 model so I'd say it's a strong buy at those lower price points
I have to clarify OLED for productivity usage once and for all. I am using LG C2 WOLED every day for coding and stuff almost 2 years and there is zero burn-in and text clarity is excellent. Let me introduce you to displays used in corporations - when I come to the office all monitors have worse DPI and absolutely horrible blurry text rendering because it is the cheapest crap - this is true for all coding jobs in all companies I worked in as contractor or employee. I can guarantee you ANY new OLED will be beautiful to your eyes in comparison to any monitor used in any (not only IT company), at least in my country.
which country?
Great review. One thing I found disappointing on mine was the fact that the USB ports would NOT hold the cables in place. They would just fall out. Samsung support was useless and I ended up purchasing a powered USB hub to resolve the issue. Other than that I love the monitor, great for gaming and productivity. I also have LG dual up monitor right next to it for viewing documents. In regard to the burn in issue, I was concerned. I enabled the Samsung anti-burn in mode (it was actually on from factory), I also have a "lively wallpaper" background on my screen that slowly moves pixels around, just in case.
What’s with you against glossy finish? Matte coatings and other films are horrible. You lose color and sharpness yet you here saying how glossy is horrible. Who plays all day in daylight? Everybody I know plays in the dark/nighttime. Glossy is the way to go for picture but I do agree we need the OPTION. Choose whether we want Glossy or Matte
Received my model yesterday, and the Contrast settings was fixed out of the box (Or after initial update, at least).
There is an g93sc version of that monitor that, in my region (France), costs 300 to 400€ less. The specs look to be identical, but with no smart TV capabilities. This could mean lower input latency, less "high contrast" or general bloat BS and an overall easier monitor to use (maybe even solve the freesync premium pro HDR issues ??), at the tradeoff of less precise calibration control. Idk, a "Tizen-less" version of this monitor might be worth looking into
This is the version of the G9 OLED that I have (without Tizen), it was heavily discounted during Black Week, down from its normal 2100 euro to 1400 euro here in Sweden. The version with Tizen costs about 2200 euro here 😅
Input latency he literally said it won’t make a difference , bloat BS and easier use I can get why you want non smart
But to me the input latency is no issue he said in his video that it isn’t an issue more like a margin of error and won’t ever be noticeable
I for one have this monitor and I like it and use the smart features and don’t find it “hard to use” so I think this is BS point but to each their own
Finally a review! Bought the oled G9 over half a year ago, and already upgraded to the 57” neo g9 months later. Hopefully you’ll do a review for that one too. :)
Why did you upgrade?
@@lorsch. Mainly because all the other g9’s that I own are lousy for office work. I have the original neo g9, the oled g9 and now the 57” neo g9. The 57” was the first where I could read small text. At 150% scaling it works very well. The others, with their much lower resolution, need 200% to be easily readable. A clear win for the 57”model. It is also much brighter than the oled version, and doesn’t suffer from burn-in.
@@ettepet9308 Thanks for the explanation.
@@ettepet9308 but lacks deep blacks, and it is deal breaker
@@ettepet9308 You might want to get your eyes checked if 110 PPI is too low for you to read text clearly even with the slight dithering issue OLEDs have, I'm not using hyperbole here.
The text scaling is intended for use on dimensionally large screens like TVs, the 57 inch Neo G9 is the same as two 30 (ish) inch 4K monitors, IE normal sized screens, you should *not* need any form of scaling to read text on the 5120x1440 panel let alone the Neo G9s panel.
Props for the new checklist!
Fantastic review! I just got it on the spring sale for $999! No brainer.
How did you manage this price?
@@blazspur best buy open box for 700 bucks right now
@@blazspur amazon right now its a bit cheaper even. 39 percent off I think?
would you still recommend this one or is there better out there?
Wow, the new checklist is great.
In my humble opinion, excellent review loved it. However i request big companies to at least respond to content creator emails. He seems to be almost everywhere in his video. The review will be bit more soft despite of critics.
I have the original 120 Hz VA panel on my 49" Samsung. I use it for productivity more than gaming so that the OLED panel is not a good option for me. Also, I normally run it in dual 27" mode, often more than 12 hours per day. Consequently, I like the dual DP availability on my model. Unfortunately, this updated monitor is not a good match for me. Thanks for your typical professional review.
I dreaded putting this on my christmas list without a hardware unboxed review. I need to figure out the color tuning but it has been a good replacement for 2 34inch pixio 1440p monitors. Games are just incredible.
It's both incredible and absolutely nuts.
FYI: So, not all G9s are the same. They just announced a new G9 model at CES 2024. I'm looking at three: the LS49CG952ENXZA (VA Panel), which is the latest 2024 version with a brighter RGB backlight; and the older ones, LS49CG954SNXZA and LS49CG932SNXZA, both OLED. Some have Smart TV apps, others are just plain monitors - pretty confusing, right? I'm thinking about getting an OLED for work stuff, but I'm worried about screen burn-in since they don't have any special protection against it
all OLED G9s have automatic OLED protection, they will pixel shift the entire screen near seamlessly to protect against burn in if static images sit too long, it also has logo detection and other care setting.
I bought this Samsung G9 from Amazon. After 2.5 years of ownership and not using the monitor heavily, the monitor started to give a blank screen. I called Samsung, and they told me I should have bought the extended warranty and they can't help me. This is a manufacturing issue and is an EXTREMELY COMMON ISSUE. I wouldn't have purchased this knowing Samsung doesn't stand by their very expensive monitor.
I WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER SAMSUNG PRODUCT AGAIN!!!
Look and see if your state has an implied warranty law
I got the OLED G8 a few months ago and I've really been enjoying it. I don't think I would like a version that's this wide though, and I definitely wouldn't have the room for it. I would also imagine it would be even more demanding than the G8 already is with there being more screen space for the GPU to have to account for. I recently built a 4090 system that I want to last for years, but I feel like a monitor like this would only make it last a couple of years before I'd have to start lowering some settings.
To each their own though. I know a lot of people love these super wide monitors.
You would be wrong. My single 1080Ti lasted 5 years powering a 7680x1440 triple monitor gaming setup without ever going below Ultra settings. I also have a 4090 now which I upgraded to from that 1080Ti and expect the same.
I wish monitors start shipping with Dolby Vision and/or HDR10+. I sometimes want to also watch movies and series on my PC.
I recently got the Philips Evnia 49m2c8900, which uses the exact same Panel, but also has a KVM + USB-C PD which is great for work, plus philips grants a 3 year OLED warranty, which basically makes it a better version of the OLED G9. And I love it!
Cant say I notice any text fringing at all and its a overall great experience to use this thing for gaming, as well as heavy productivity, excel heavy work!
Hey, so how it is in HDR after 3 month? Did you get the unibright removal option firmware update, isn't there auto dimming anymore in HDR? Is HDR1000's inaccurate overbrightness fixed yet? Aren't Ambi lights too dim and slow to sync?
Update plz?
@@vironchaidemenidis9997 it’s still Holding up Great and im Overall happy. OLED‘s still fine and no Burn in at all, although i work a lot with Spreadsheets, etc.
Tim, you can disable the HDR freesync premium pro pipeline on AMD with CRU. Delete the freesync range and add it again. Customers shouldn't have to do this.
I got one of these for my son at Christmas and I'm finding that sometimes its text rendering in Windows is appalling, so washed out to the point of being unusable. It seems to fix itself after gaming but I'm not really sure what the cause is. After watching this review I'll try disabling the contrast feature and enable auto color space to see if that improves things. I also found it a bit difficult to understand how to unlock the full potential of this monitor, i.e. 240Hz and HDR. Am I right in saying you must run it in the Gaming mode to do so? For HDR gaming does HDR need to be enabled in Windows, or will the games automatically switch to HDR output? Would be great to include aspects like this in your reviews.
I ordered this monitor in december last year and returned it afer 2 weeks. While this monitor is really nice to look at all the rest was not great.
This is my own perspective as a simracer ofc. The monitor has pixelshift as protection for led burn in. After a few long sessions of simracing the monitor would turn off from overheating. This for me was a big no go. All the standby features were turned off but it would still just power off. Also the brightness is not enough imho. Returned it and went for a normal G9 240hrz and 1ms. Cheaper en better and not so fragile.
I just bought the Odyssey G8 for 700 USD... 1800 USD for a monitor is crazy, I had to wait a year for QD-OLED ultrawides to drop in price.
Not to mention, what kind of GPU can handle 5120x1440???? That's basically 4K monitor.
My 4080 handles it just fine.
that's what the 4090 is for
My 4070ti does well
Literally just got mine when this video was uploaded, crazy timing.
Got it for 1400 Euros, which is okay I think considering its basically 3 monitors. MSRP at release was insane though.
Can confirm theres some text fringing but I only noticed it when it was mentioned in the video. I have to move my face like, onto the display itself to see it. So its not an issue imo.
I think the monitor is super easy to setup physically, so thats a plus (I recommend 2 people) but it does wobble a bit when something hits the desk, so the stability of the stand isnt perfect. I may buy an ergo arm after all.
The monitor gets plenty bright, almost too bright, it lights up my entire room by itself if I let it. No idea why anyone would need anything brighter unless your office is in your garden and your garden happens to be in the sahara.
I had some weird twitching of the picture outta the box, changing resolution back and forth fixed it.
Theoretically I like the smart TV features, but I agree its bloated. Like, theres all sorts of apps on it that are totally niche.
Setting everything up on first start is also a pain, the monitor should just work straight up and if someone wants to use "smart" features THEN they can set them up. Dont use them to block me using the device.
The built in speakers suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Do not use them. My ears hurt now.
Overall my first impression is: Good panel, bloated OS, overwhelmingly huge.
Got the bloatware-free version for 1400€ 1 week before release 😁
it's 2 monitors at best since it is literally the size of 2x 27" 1440p monitors
WoW! No HDR on AMD! That's a NO BUY FOR ME! I was really thinking about buying this monitor to pair with my 7900XTX. What a shame. Now Asus's 144Hz option isn't looking so bad.
I know I'm one of probably like 5 people who care, but one nice thing would be to know how it handles a 4:3 or 5:4 input from an older PC or other source. With my LG 27GP850 I have to manually switch it between 16:9 and 4:3 when using my older retro-ish PC (Win XP), or it'll stretch the 4:3 image into 16:9. It can't handle 5:4 at all. Some monitors can automatically handle different aspect ratios, adding black bars as necessary. With an even older PC this might be fine because 4:3 would be what I'd want all the time anyway, but XP games often did ship with widescreen support so it's a bit annoying having to switch back and forth.
This generally isn't an issue with modern PCs, as you can use the graphics card driver settings to tell the computer to do the scaling locally before ever sending the image to the screen. I totally understand if this isn't something you consider worth the time to test.
4:3 or 5:4 content will likely lead to reverse burn in on these QD-OLED Panels. This was a massive issue on the 34 Alienware
@@TheAsmileXDThis is true.
@@TheAsmileXDshouldn't the same happen with 16:9 then?
@@lorsch. yeah that's why it's better to get one of the new 27 or 32 inch QD-OLEDs for 16:9 content. This monitor is specifically for gaming and nothing else. 4:3 and 5:4 content on the other hand you might be better of getting a good CRT xD.
whats the Diff between 450 Nits and 1000 ??
cause i bought it and its on the Way but i have an AMD GPU.
im waiting for some answer pls
um. i was gonna buy it for work/gaming at my home office, but the burn in problem mentioned seems to be an issue since I work with static contents for 8 - 14 hours a day. 32:9 is so nice to have for work and games. I was just planning on 21:9 most games put it in the center and have the sides for discord/web
Also Samsung not providing a warranty even when their warranties are shit doesn't give me confidence to shell out so much money.
I'm using the G9 OLED with the G8 OLED stacked above it. My end game (I'm looking at a 32" OLED tho).
I was waiting for this review! Thank you very much.
Had a 32:9 screen now for 4 years, never going back to anything else
If anyone cares :)
@22:10 The monitor doesn't support Dolby Vision true. But it supports HDR10+ (which in all effect it is Dolby Vision. HDR10: One time config. of min/max brightness. HDR10+ Dynamic luminance/contrast support. Dolby Vision = HDR10+ minus royalties to Dolby :P )
The monitor has a lot of features to prevent "burn-in" as well :) Too bad those aren't covered (this is valid for all Oled monitor reviews)
Very solid review! The crappy factory calibration, was the first thing I had to address as well.. Such a shame, because once calibrated it gives an awesome image :D
Man I never would've thought I'd say this, but I would've loved to see the 1000r curve still
I would be interested in your opinion on the choice between the G9 Neo and the G9 OLED
It was gifted to me, best thing to ever happen to my gaming setup lol
Would love to see a review of the G9 57", the newest and biggest version of G9. I use my monitor for 3D work and gaming so I can't buy OLED with risk of burn in, and sub-pixel issues.
I wish you would have mentioned the firmware version you used to test and review the product. I’ve been using this monitor without updating the firmware because in firmware version 1023, Samsung disabled the Peak Brightness setting when using it in SDR mode, which makes everything a bit dimmer. I don’t want to lose that feature by updating, but if your SDR results were based on the newer firmware, then I would consider updating.
For such a pricy panel, I won't accept anything but perfection. Things like the sub pixel layout alone is a dealbreaker for me.
u wont even notice it, i can tell that from experience unless u got a magnifier and sit 10cm away from the screen
Completely overblown, i got s90c and text looks perfect even at close range, its hilarious that you think your washed-out ips is better than qd oled 😂
That's an OS problem, not the monitor, blame Microsoft. Pretty sure they'll fix it this year with all the OLED models coming they'll have no choice.
@@fvallo " and text looks perfect even at close range"
Yeah this is cope. Thats why some new OLED monitors have text clarity features in their software lmao. Will be less noticeable at 4K though, but at 1440p it 100% is.
Of course it hurts to admit when you have spent over a grand on a monitor that will burn in in a few years, I understand.
@@chy.0190Few years? Who keeps a monitor that long 😂
Hi mate,
My friend brought a G9 Neo about 6 months ago from Samsung, I decided to go ahead and order one but they aren't listed on Samsung website anymore, is this one in your video an updated version of the Neo?
Never thought I would but I got tired of ultrawide monitors. I really don't get the appeal in super ultrawide. Even though it's supposedly huge, it doesn't feel big because it has no height.
I dont get it, what is the diff between 8 hours of desktop work and 8 hours of gaming where in gaming there are plenty of ui elements that never move. Wont that burn in just the same ?
It is listed under the mounting type as "VESA Mount". However, customer reviews are mixed with some mentioning the Vesa mount adapter was not included in the box. Did yours?
Thanks for this review! Been waiting for this!. Sorry that Samsung messed you around...typical. My experience matches your thoughts. I love the display and got it before playing Alan Wake II which looks just gorgeous on it. Didn't know about the contrast enhancer but this what I rely on you for. With all the caveats, this is the one I was waiting for and have no regrets.
This monitor looks really good but the lack of USB-C video input and power delivery as well as lack of KVM switch is kinda disappointing. Do you think the MSI 491CQP is a better buy? The G9 is $2299 and the MSI is $1999 in New Zealand. I prefer the sleek look of the Samsung but the MSI seems to have way more features including the things I mentioned before which is tempting to me since I have a gaming PC and a MacBook Pro so being able to plug in my MacBook with one cable and have access to power, display, keyboard and mouse is amazing. The 144hz of the MSI is a little bit of a bummer compared to 240hz on the Samsung but honestly 144hz is still heaps and I think the USB-C, KVM and power delivers kinda sways me in the MSI direction. What are your thoughts? Which one would you buy? I'm gonna wait for a sale before I buy anyway so I have some time to think and maybe price will answer the question for me anyway.
I'm considering the G93SC non-smart variant after having been on the AW3423DWF since it's release, the price has dropped to around 1050-1100 euros, with the deepest sale so far to 950, so I'm hoping it drops to 950 again or even 900 during black friday / cyber monday just a few weeks from now.
Since I'm in the EU I'd have 2 years warranty via the retailer so that covers that a bit and I have a nvidia gpu luckily (although it was pretty close between this and amd).
Otherwise I'm buying another AW3423DWF which have dropped to 750 euros now because I love it so much and because 1st gen QD-OLED panels are now EOL, so these monitors are only still in stock as long as supply lasts.
Going to take a lot to get me to move away from my FV43U. Much prefer a larger overall screen at higher res than a super wide. It doesn't have the oled contrast but my god the brightness and colors are incredible on that screen.
true blacks are most important by far oled is king in that regard
Hi @monitorsunboxed, have you had a chance to look at the "Samsung Odyssey OLED G93SC" ?? most interested to hear if there is any change to the max peak brightness in NITs between using an AMD or NVIDIA GPU. Longtime viewer of your channels Keep up the great work !!!
I treated myself to one of these after having started a new job, and I'll be getting mine on Monday. I owned the G9 Neo that despite the scanline issues, I absolutely loved. All my other displays are OLED and it's definitely hard to go back to anything else. Definitely looking forward to it.
Love your reviews, there's just one thing in general about OLEDs which you consistently mention and it's not clear to me. How come that gaming is not a concern for burn-in, when a lot of games have a fairly static HUD which I would think it's a major burn-in risk? Maybe you explained it in some of the earlier videos, but I missed it. Cheers!
It is. People go on and on and on and on about it. All monitors and TVs have pixel refreshes and shifters to make it less of an issue, and usually decent warranties which include burn in.
Pixel shifting, pixel cleaning, panel refresh, there are also other features like static content and logo detection like hud elements or UI stuff. Where the display will dim that specific section to heavily reduce burn in or uniformity issues.
As mentioned before as well too if any burn in is detected running the pixel refresher has reversed nearly all of it even with thousands of hours of no mitigations enabled and static content being forced 24/7.
I’m hardly a professional monitor reviewer, but I’d imagine it’s related to the fact that very few people leave their games running while away from the screen. HUD elements probably would have a small risk of causing burn in, but it’s much more likely that an open google docs page is simply going to sit there for several minutes or even hours without change. If the hud elements change at all these risks are even more minimal (ammo count, health, red creeping onto the edges of the screen when hurt). I think you are right that in theory there is a risk, but they are rarely on the screen and truly static for an entire session. In between rounds they may go away, or cinematics happen, etc.
Windows pages aren’t going to do that though, which is where the risk comes from
@@solkvist8668 This doesn't really make sense. People are going to sit and play a game for many hours on end and many games have a purely static HUD. The real reason burn in isn't a major issue is people will swap up games and not play the same game for 1500+ hours. Burn in is very real even for gamers if you do plan to a play a game that long and it doesn't matter at all if you take breaks as to what burn in is and how it works.
yeah but everytime you open the map or the journal menus the screens completely change, the hud doesn't stay on. Or loading in and out of multiplayer matches.. it shifts. Even twice an hour is good enough when combined with the other protections.@@lilpain1997
wait isnt the refresh of the G9 is S95SD???? buy the SC version now?
I have this monitor and stepped up from a LG 34UC79G, just amazing to use.
I got it for a good deal when it came out (£1360 with free Galaxy Buds Pro 2) so it was absolutely worth it for me.
Is there any difference between this and the G95C?
Yes.
- G95C is VA panel while G95SC is OLED
- G95C has a curvature of 1000R while G95SC has 1800R
5:04 Noooooo! PCs cannot run streaming apps just fine, they are mostly limited to 1080p or lower resolutions, with only Netflix having the ability to play 4K on PC but still no HDR and ONLY by specifically streaming over Microsoft Edge, not even their app will do 4k. Even so, you will still get blocky, heavily compressed streaming when compared to TV apps. And if you're using other streaming services, oh my oh my, you're in for 2007 levels of streaming quality.
PC is VERY limited when it comes to streaming copyrighted video content.
I got this 2 weeks ago and just set it up today.
Which firmware is acceptable to use . Any issues with firmware?
The lack of LG OLEDs in the charts is concerning.
They are coming later, and worth waiting for.
LG has only launched a couple of their panels.
They are not worth waiting for until the change the subpixels to RGWB. This won't happen until Q4 of this year.
Even then the matt panels would be questionable, the price will make or break them.@@TheSavageB
I plan on using it for both gaming and work. Work usually takes about 9 hours a day, I wonder if this could lead to a burn in?
Thanks for this review, convinced I should stick with my og G9.
As an aside do wish there was an oled monitor in 4:3 for old TV and emulators
Isnt 1000R going to feel more immersion? Like the prior ones
It is. It's a tradeoff. For me, the Oled screen is worth it over the OG-backlit screen, but I do miss the curve a bit.
@@lorsch.I Just hope they (samsung or asus) just release a 1000R curved oled variant.
Would there be any chance of you reviewing the ASUS PG32UQXR? I know it has a higher price tag, but 4k 160hz, DP 2.1, MiniLED backlight, and high DCI-P3 coverage would be like heaven on earth for me and many others. A review from you is almost quite literally the only thing keeping me from snagging it.
Where are the settings used? Multiple times this review mentions how importqnt proper settings are but there are not clear deacriptions of those settings
I bought this monitor on an Amazon Prime sale a few weeks ago for $1100.00 with tax....best deal for the money! You do need to make adjustments and use good cables. So far so good. I use it for graphics, animations, photo editing and video watching with the included apps.
Ey congratz. Im thinking about buying this but im unsure, because the test showed some flaws. Im Stuck between this or a oled widescreen 34".
@@VoidBass6412 it was only worth it to me when it went on sale, $800 dollers off at that time, I did get a firmware update about a week after i got it, its been a month now, so far so good. Some of the problem people talked about went away with better cables and onscreen adjustments I found from another youtube video. The funny thing that when its hooked to my companies worksatation laptop, no problems at all.
Thank you for the review, although from my perspective, a little later than usual. 😀I already bought the OLED G9 and use it as my daily driver at home, something the 21:9 Alienware just could not obtain for me, since it was to small for my use case.
I found two vertical bands near the edge of the frame and I would prefer not to have them if I'm honest.
what about compensation cycles? Is it like the LG monitors that improve after several cycles every 4 hours?
I just got mine on Amazon for $1000 but I had a $100 off coupon so with the three-year warranty came to 1089 I can’t wait to get it
Great professional review. Keep the independency. Nevertheless I am still lost which Monitor I should go for with the intention for high end gaming with NVIDIA GPU RTX 4090. They all have pros and cons. Nothing is perfect.
picture by picture for productivity is it worth it? am I gonna have blur in?.Btw regarding picture by picture can I have a ultrawide screen size 34 and small 15inch display on the side?
nice checklist. good to have.
I have the same monitor, and it's great for gaming and productivity use. I haven't had any issues with burn in after using it heavily for almost 1 year.
The only thing that I dislike about it is the height. It should have been at least 1600px in height as it's very wide but vertically cramped in it's current state.
Also if someone really cares about high level fps play then this monitor is not as good as 240hz+ TN monitors with bfs from the likes of Asus and BenQ (the G9 is great but my much cheaper 27" BenQ is better)
It's perfect for other types of games like dota, rocket league, single player etc.
Which pixel care settings do you have enabled? I just bought it last week. What are your color settings?
I have the G8, which I got for $800 on Black Friday with an additional $150 for a 4 year burn-in and defect warranty (basically covers everything but accidental damage to the monitor itself). I use it as both a third monitor for gaming as well as a TV.
I wouldn't have paid more than $1000 because of the lack of a polarizer.
5:55 Pretty sure there's an option to go directly to the source input without going through the home menu when you turn the monitor, my QN90B TV that I use as a monitor has it.
I have a stupid question... does the pixel layout make text in games look off too? Or is it only a Windows thing?