For those wondering, Samsung TVs from the late 90s and early 2000s had diagonal, 45 degree scan lines. It's supposed to be less distracting than horizontal scanlines. Vertical scan lines would be emulating a CRT set on its side - a lot of arcade games had sideways screens to allow for more verticality.
Yeah sideways CRTs (usually referred to as "Tate mode") are actually fairly common with classic arcade games like pacman and are often seen in vertical shooters like Raiden, or 1942. But I don't think the MVS had any Tate games... It wouldn't really make sense to ether since the whole point was that you didn't need to get a new arcade cabinet to get new games, and that cabinets could have any 4 MVS games in them.
This however apparently was never a thing for any Neo Geo game or cabinet, so it must only be there because some of the display effects used are generic libraries.
I think all these modern arcade machines are mainly targeted at offices. I've seen a few of them (not this particular brand, just in general) in break rooms as gimmicks. For a company 450$ is not a lot of money if they get a cool toy for their employees.
No its for ppl like my brother. In their 30s. No kids. Now have own place and good job. Money to waste and nostalgia to milk. Ever notice its always games from 20 years ago?.
Honestly there's a point to getting an actual jamma cabinet. Not only can you put an MVS slot, with a 150 in 1 cartrige ( or at least I think it's jamma, and if it isn't it popular enough that there's probably an adapter so you can use it over jamma ), you can also get most other arcade boards, and those cool looking n in 1 jamma boards. You just get a ton more games, and a proper display, no scaling/ fake scanlines and stuff.
@@NSixtyFour i'm almost 40, I have a girlfriend with a daughter about the graduate high school, and I still want one for my game room to go on top of my tiki bar. I also have an average paying job, so I'll have to save up a bit, but I've had the goal for a few years now to own 1 arcade machine, and this looks like one of the better mass produced ones made with lots of games, but these people you see on UA-cam who just keep buying the Arcade 1Up cabs at $300+ with only a couple of games in them over, and over with iffy build quality, now that's a waste of money IMHO, and I'm sure with this one someone will offer an adapter kit to mod in a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB at some point so you can load MAME onto it making it a much better value for those like me who don't want to have to make their own cab.
@@TorutheRedFox Outside of Japan the 2000's and up era of arcade games have mostly been ticket machines, and Dave & Busters crap games, so I don't think as many will have nostalgic feelings for them for companies to even try to make machines like this for them.
Think you just defined a whole consumer market that this taps into: 5% Game collector aficionados 5% Confused parents who's kids wanted a PS5 and this must be better as included a screen as well 89% Serotonin/dopamine unbalanced shoppers. 1% Scalpers who are not market aware
4:15 Anthony, it has a power brick and not internal for compliance reasons. When a PSU is internal they instantly have to comply to a bunch of different standards as the device itself is considered mains powered. An external supply can be made by another company and be already approved, then the console isnt classified as mains powered. Thus, avoiding additional costs and certifications required for emissions and safety. If it's still an engineering sample they may just have added an external to get it out the door.
@@88porpoise Sony will sell more PS5 in a day then SNK will sell this in a year and Sony will be making more money at the same time, it's not an issue because you should be paying more for a super niche product.
It has a USB port and 2 extra buttons that no NeoGeo game will ever use, so I think they built it knowing people would want to add more games from other systems. All we have to do is wait until the emulation community does its thing.
This is awesome. We had a neo geo as a kid that was bought by my grandfather, and we had quite a few games. I remember the cartridge size. My friends were in awe to see this video game. It was wwwaaaayyyy ahead of its time. I was young at the time (the machine belonged to my older brother), but I do remember going to a specialty electronics store to get it, and I remember everything being in Japanese. Buying the neo geo and games for it was like doing a drug deal lol. It was not something in the main part of the store. This was a total back room item, and I don't remember the exact cost, but it was not cheap. And the games were incredible.
Man short circuit is always so fun, I have no interest in most of the stuff here but having people passionate about different things and experiencing it is fantastic, and always a joy to watch
I agree, Short Circuit City is always at its best when their hosts and employees actually care about the passionate tech they are showcasing and reviewing; not just phoning in the reviews for worthless “peels” and “unboxing cardboard experiences”. Talk about the tech, talk about the price, talk about the hardware, why it’s special and worth owning; and conclude with the value per dollar.
When you use an external powersupply, "regulations" see it as a low voltage device, therefore much easier to get cleared for safety. The 110V/230V safety regulations lays with the manufacturer of the external power supply. Once you connect a 110/230V directly to the arcade machine, then that whole device falls under that strict catagory.
@@wobblysauce No nothing stopping you other than having to modify the power jack to be internal, and then pass the power plug through the case, but it would cause more heat to be inside the system as the PSU heats up. I would rather just cable manage the wires with some zip ties, and use some 3M double sided tape to mount the PSU to the outside of the back panel for airflow, and if it ever fails for some reason it's easier to place then having to open the system back up.
Personally I'm okay with the external power brick because it's gonna be easy to replace if something goes wrong. If they built the power supply onto the board, a regular person would have a hard time repairing it. Maybe the best of both worlds would be to hide the power brick inside. But I'm not sure if it would get too hot.
I'm glad that Linus let's Anthony take the reins on his own interests, pretty cool. I also like the dynamic between them. Anthony is very analytical, and Linus is more of "use the wrench as a hammer" type, and that's not an insult, it's fun to watch.
I got deep into collecting MVS cartridges before they became ridiculously expensive. At the time, Windjammers (a banger) was less than $200 for the cartridge. Some games for the NEO GEO now cost more than this whole cabinet. In that sense, it's probably a good value for 50 games. Thanks for showing this off, Anthony!
Growing up with those games pretty much exclusively, alongside Tekken and a few others the nostalgia is a lot stronger on me, and it probably makes the system worth more to me. Anthony did a fair review as he always does.
I like how optimistic and positive he is throughout the whole process while discovering some pretty horrendous features "the scan lines get thicker and thinner... which is a problem??" "a lot of slowdown in this game, but I'm sure that's how it looked like in the actual hardware" "you would get used to having the button like this rather than having them like the original Neo geo." such a nice guy!
$450 for that amount of games is fine. Seriously. I have one of the old BIG Neo Geo arcade controllers...it was around $180. And no, i don´t want to talk about what i paid for the Neo Geo CD back in the day.
@@NSixtyFour Depends on what experience you're looking for, if it's the true home arcade experience, and collecting each cartrige individually that's not even a bargain anymore. But if you just wanna play them games more or less legally, you can probably built an MVS system with a 150 in 1 cartrige for way less (also games and consoles are way cheaper on the MVS side of things, so go with that even if you don't want an all in one cartrige ).
people are fin with a $200 arcade machine with 1-2 games but $450 for 50 games is too much? lol for any die hard SNK fan this is an absolute steal! especially because it actually has all the KoF games
I mean considering the AES was $650 without games in 1990 money (almost 1300 in 2020 money), that's not terrible. 50 games is pretty solid when you think about the competition, those Arcade 1 Up machines have a couple games tops and are about half as much. Plus they're Neo Geo games, which are a fair bit better quality than most other contemporary retro games imo.
Thanks for cracking this open and taking a look at the guts, no one else that I saw do videos on the MVSX were too scared. I'm not super surprised to see essentially a raspberry pi inside, that's about what I do for my friends. Full size cabs are hard to sell, but everyone wants a tabletop game system.
If you watched the Terry Showcase for Smash Bros. the Director, Masahiro Sakurai, talked about the history of Neo Geo as well. As Terry is just as much as a SNK rep. then just purely a Fatal Fury rep.
@@devonkoudijs There is a LTT episode (from the intel extreme upgrade series) where you can see Anthony's house and the stuff he has, that comes close.
There's a video series where Intel gives $5k to some LTT employees to buy new setups and Linus goes and visits their houses to help install said setups. There's an episode with Anthony (and there's also one with Riley I believe... and more to come). Go check it out.
Pretty cool for whoever wants a NeoGeo Arcade without any effort. I made one myself, there is a spanish place called Talentec that sells you DIY packages to build your stand and toptable for around 300/400 bucks, they ship worldwide. In total it was more or less 600 bucks, ordered all electronics and inputs from there as well, the only thing I got myself was the actual device running the emulation, which was a Rasp Pi 4 which is running RetroPi and an 24' LCD I found for free. My arcade for sure doesn't look as nice and polished as this one in terms of exterior aesthetics, but it was a lot of fun building it and I give it a lot more value having assembled it myself than buying it ready, plus its customizable, I'm running several emulators on it, over 20 thousand games which we all know I will not play 99.9% of them, all I cared for was NeoGeo anyways, huge fanboy of SNK.
@0:45 - to clarify for non collectors, the MVS (arcade) hardware is pretty common and relatively cheap to collect. The AES home console hardware is crazy expensive. For example, a real MVS arcade can be found for the same price point as this device.
Interesting review - I wanted to get into neo geo again and relive the joy of having an AES. Purchased an AES with 2 sticks, all boxed and 2 boxed games for £420 with shipping from Japan to UK. Then got an AES multicart for £80. Total was about £500 for everything. Having lots of fun and would much rather have the authentic experience than an emulation box - definitely worth the extra bit of money IMO 👍 great review - subscribed!
I love to see Anthony. He has such a smooth voice. He could read books and i would watch it. The thumbnail selection is brilliant. Review of a home game arcade system is done by the no nonsense guy.
This is why I built my own full-size and bartop cabs running BigBox with genuine Sanwar control parts with a 25" or 34" monitor, custom side, marquee and control board artworks and NO VISIBLE SCREWS OR JOINT GAPS which IMO makes the massive difference between a toy and a genuine-looking arcade cab, this NEO GEO is ok but those controls won't last too long and most people end up modding them to play more games, in the end, it works out cheaper to build your own in the first place or buy a self-assembly kit
I really appreciate the detail in the review, you know your stuff. Picking up stuff like non integer scaling and the type of buttons puts this content well above so many other tech channels.
You could easily build a far superior cabinet with 3/4in black mdf from the hardware store, raspberry pie 4, 20in dell 2007fp lcd, an arcade stick and button kit from amazon, usb powered speakers. I bought a 1up Arcade on sale at walmart for 50$ (Galaga) took out the screen replaced with dell 2007fp, drilled extra holes for extra buttons and stick kit I found on Amazon, hooked up a raspberry pie 4 running retro pie. So for about 250.00 when all was said and done and it blows the doors off this thing. If you don't mind a little work it's an easy mod. The hardest part for me was making an mdf frame for the monitor so it looked nice. I added a thick glass screen in front of the lcd for effect but that's not needed. My nephews love it. I like going through random arcade roms I've never seen or got the chance to play I have so many I'll probably never get thru them all. lol. This thing is more of a NeoGeo collectors thing which I'm not knocking btw.
This is worthwhile depending on where you live, how expensive materials are and more importantly how handy you are with tools to make one yourself. I am currently making one of these with a Raspberry pi, slightly nicer sticks and buttons and can vouch that cost of parts like the display, speakers and the wood, paint and misc supplies quickly add up to more than $500 if you factor your own hours of labor for a countertop like this one. Sure it can turn out nicer because you can customize it to your taste but its not a bad deal for the money if you are into Neo Geo. (Plus its legal.)
0:53 Me, someone who played most of KOF from 94 to 2003 and most Metal Slug games, all in arcade: THAT'S A PERFECTLY FINE RESOLUTION AND GRAPHICAL QUALITY ANDY!
Excellent look at this collection in an arcade cabinet, with that NeoGeo energy. Price tag wow. And the breakdown, informative, and very cool. I never owned a NeoGeo. But it was an amazing system. Its price tag was very intimidating
I got an arcade 1up on sale for $50 last spring. I added new side art, a raspberry pi, and new controller deck. Now I have my own neo geo arcade machine and it is awesome!
I loved my arcade games when I was a kid back in the 90s, but I was almost always disappointed when games like Pit Fighter, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat, etc, came out on consoles. They were never as good as the arcade versions; there just always seemed to be something missing. Maybe it was just that it wasn't the same feeling as playing in the arcade, with the sounds from the machine's speakers, and all the other games in the background beeping away, and the smell of sweat, overheating circuit boards, and cigarette smoke, etc. Or maybe consoles at the time were just crap. But it was really hard to beat the feeling of popping 20p into Streetfighter II when some other kid was just about to beat M. Bison for the first time, and then whupping his ass with E. Honda's hundred hand slap and finishing the game yourself..
@@bobafruti lol! Mine was on the Super Nintendo if I remember correctly. But it was very pixelated and there were lots of things missing, like characters in the background, and there were no things to pick up and fling at your opponent, like chairs and barrels.
Nah, consoles at the time were shit compared to the arcade. Its not until the PS2/Xbox era where console finally become as powerful as an arcade machine.
@@third-ratedude4234 Yea, it was probably quite limiting, trying to fit everything into a cartridge and being limited by the hardware specs of the consoles at the time, whilst arcade games were basically built (I assume) with the required hardware and software that each game required. At least for some games anyway. I do miss cartridges though, they never had any loading times and were a lot more robust than CDs..
I would LOVE if Anthony did his own mini series on retro gaming in the modern day! Like going over what company's make best reproduction controllers for each console, things like that.
@@starpencil Yeah, thought he'd do a lot more info on it. Ashens hated the buttons as well, plus he really raged about the extra unusable white buttons. Had another look and the options menu/button config doesn't even include the whites. Wonder why they included them?
I get buying this if you're an SNK collector, but for everyone else this is very little bang for the buck. A Pandora's Box gives you every game here plus 1000 more for about half the price, and any popular handheld retro portable device like the GPD XD has all of these games too.
And all those 16000 games are probably illegal copies but yeah, for 500 I was expecting way more, starting the fact that the build quality doesn't look specially good.
for anyone actually wanting to play NeoGeo and not just buying something like this for interior decoration reasons I'd recommend Mister FPGA. few frames extra lag with software emulation might not sound like much but you will feel the difference when playing on hardware instead.
Anthony: "You'd have to build it yourself" and "There is better ways to do that" - I can see a build your own arcade machine with Anthony series coming along!
The coin slots on the front should be the buttons for adding credits , little touches like that make the experience original, or even a step further have it actually take a coin but it would just drop back down to the coin return opening
Depends on what are you standards for quality and effort. You can get cheap MVS consoles/carts seconhand, pair that with a supergun and some joysticks and your grandma's tv ( or any other CRT tv you can get for cheap, you don't have to get it from your grandma specifically. They provide the best neo geo experience in my opinion ) and you can make something that works for under 450$. but if you want an easy to setup and good looking option, this is probably the best you'll find at this price point. Also I should metion the home console, but it's way more expensive (450 will get you the console and one or two games, depending on how cheeap they are), so not the best option if you're on a budget.
It wouldnt even be hard. MiSTer FPGA is doing everything up to PS1s now I think. And you could probably put together one for like 200-350 bucks depending on how much you are willing to price shop, even a premade MiSTer kit is cheaper than this thing.
AES mode provides a proper challenge as you are generally provided with limited 4 or 5 credits to try to complete the game which is a realistic amount if you are good enough. The MVS Arcade mode allows people to endlessly enter credits which ultimately removes the point in playing to a degree
Same. I'd actually make one myself out of a Pi if not by the fact that I'm terrible working with wood and probably would cut myself three fingers off before reaching the drawing board.
the bartop is perfect for my game room, as I could set it right on top of my Tiki Bar for game nights with family, and friends, and it looks like it could be modded fairly easy. So going to have to save my coins for this one.
Man.. Anthony can make interesting even an unboxing of a frypan. He is so meticulous in the translation to the viewer that you can't get bored, we need more Anthony. (Btw:But the whole crew is epic, don't get me wrong.)
@@dc5330 MiSTer can simultaneously output to CRT and HDMI. Google MiSTer FPGA to find the github about the project, or look up Smokemonster or RMC The Cave's videos on youtube.
Look this is WORTH IT 100 percent. Compare it to arcade 1-up's machines which contain like 2-4 games and a stick with 2 buttons. This has 2 sticks 12 buttons and 50 games. Worth every penny and Im sure now you can probably add your own games.
no internal PSU means the "console" doesn't need to comply with the high voltage electrical regulations. 12Vdc @ 3A means you can pretty much do just about whatever you want (short of actually connecting the +12V to the chassis) and you'll pass the safety tests. Given that you can just buy a labeled PSU to include in the box, it makes the engineering and regulatory side of this product much much easier.
Nostalgia is worth the 450 entry price. Thank you for sharing this. I miss the Neo Geo platform and now I have an inexpensive way to get some of these games back into my hands. (:
SNK is not shy about taking those nostalgia dollars, but they're also one of the few companies that will actually sell you ROMS. They've been giving away several NeoGeo games per month through amazon prime/twitch gaming that come with an emulator already but the roms are clearly designated and accessible in the files.
I build one of these using an old AMD Trinity CPU, 2+2GB of DDR3 Ram, HDD, Seasonic powersupply, some chinese Sanwa knockoff kit (USB adaptor, meh buttons and good stick), some plywood, an old 19" TN panel I had... It's ok. And it was way cheaper than $450. It was something like... $300? But mind that prices of electronics here in Brazil (even used ones) are always 30% higher.
I set up MAME with scanlines and self-made ultra hires slot mask on a 5K monitor. Hard to tell the difference with a CRT and makes the old games look fabulous.
Dude has a very unfortunate type of male pattern baldness. Glad he’s doing his thing, but he needs to embrace a different hair style. It really doesn’t look good as is.
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For those wondering, Samsung TVs from the late 90s and early 2000s had diagonal, 45 degree scan lines. It's supposed to be less distracting than horizontal scanlines. Vertical scan lines would be emulating a CRT set on its side - a lot of arcade games had sideways screens to allow for more verticality.
Yeah sideways CRTs (usually referred to as "Tate mode") are actually fairly common with classic arcade games like pacman and are often seen in vertical shooters like Raiden, or 1942.
But I don't think the MVS had any Tate games... It wouldn't really make sense to ether since the whole point was that you didn't need to get a new arcade cabinet to get new games, and that cabinets could have any 4 MVS games in them.
I did actually wonder. So at the very least you have helped one person.
I love when top comment is something you were about to search for more info on.
This however apparently was never a thing for any Neo Geo game or cabinet, so it must only be there because some of the display effects used are generic libraries.
I remember an old AVGN episode where he has a vertical TV
I think all these modern arcade machines are mainly targeted at offices. I've seen a few of them (not this particular brand, just in general) in break rooms as gimmicks. For a company 450$ is not a lot of money if they get a cool toy for their employees.
No its for ppl like my brother. In their 30s. No kids. Now have own place and good job. Money to waste and nostalgia to milk. Ever notice its always games from 20 years ago?.
@@NSixtyFour well nobody really has any nostalgia for arcade games from the 2000s yet as they're still ridiculously common
Honestly there's a point to getting an actual jamma cabinet. Not only can you put an MVS slot, with a 150 in 1 cartrige ( or at least I think it's jamma, and if it isn't it popular enough that there's probably an adapter so you can use it over jamma ), you can also get most other arcade boards, and those cool looking n in 1 jamma boards. You just get a ton more games, and a proper display, no scaling/ fake scanlines and stuff.
@@NSixtyFour i'm almost 40, I have a girlfriend with a daughter about the graduate high school, and I still want one for my game room to go on top of my tiki bar. I also have an average paying job, so I'll have to save up a bit, but I've had the goal for a few years now to own 1 arcade machine, and this looks like one of the better mass produced ones made with lots of games, but these people you see on UA-cam who just keep buying the Arcade 1Up cabs at $300+ with only a couple of games in them over, and over with iffy build quality, now that's a waste of money IMHO, and I'm sure with this one someone will offer an adapter kit to mod in a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB at some point so you can load MAME onto it making it a much better value for those like me who don't want to have to make their own cab.
@@TorutheRedFox Outside of Japan the 2000's and up era of arcade games have mostly been ticket machines, and Dave & Busters crap games, so I don't think as many will have nostalgic feelings for them for companies to even try to make machines like this for them.
This is probably what I would purchase while drunk and nostalgic at around 4a.m.
Lol that's exactly what I'd do 😂
and then you see this at your door and be like "what did I buy this time"
lol
same here, and my girlfriend would be shaking her head when the UPS man shows, and I'm going O SHIT!! now I have to buy her something LOL!
Think you just defined a whole consumer market that this taps into:
5% Game collector aficionados
5% Confused parents who's kids wanted a PS5 and this must be better as included a screen as well
89% Serotonin/dopamine unbalanced shoppers.
1% Scalpers who are not market aware
4:15 Anthony, it has a power brick and not internal for compliance reasons. When a PSU is internal they instantly have to comply to a bunch of different standards as the device itself is considered mains powered.
An external supply can be made by another company and be already approved, then the console isnt classified as mains powered. Thus, avoiding additional costs and certifications required for emissions and safety.
If it's still an engineering sample they may just have added an external to get it out the door.
That said... there is nothing stopping you from mounting it internally yourself.
If this is just for the sample, fine, but when you can buy a PS5 for considerably less than this, cutting corners like that is an issue.
@@88porpoise Sony will sell more PS5 in a day then SNK will sell this in a year and Sony will be making more money at the same time, it's not an issue because you should be paying more for a super niche product.
that was probably easier to get a bajillion that were premade bong standard power to usb thing.
I'd pay $450 for this if there was some sort of computer in it that accepted ROMs.
You could mod a Pi 4 in dead cheap, but for that much if you take time you could build a full size cab with better screen, sticks and buttons.
You can load other NeoGeo ROMs from a USB stick in the back, apparently.
It has a USB port and 2 extra buttons that no NeoGeo game will ever use, so I think they built it knowing people would want to add more games from other systems. All we have to do is wait until the emulation community does its thing.
very likely is
I wouldn't worry too much about that, it'll be hacked in no time anyways.
This is awesome. We had a neo geo as a kid that was bought by my grandfather, and we had quite a few games. I remember the cartridge size. My friends were in awe to see this video game. It was wwwaaaayyyy ahead of its time. I was young at the time (the machine belonged to my older brother), but I do remember going to a specialty electronics store to get it, and I remember everything being in Japanese. Buying the neo geo and games for it was like doing a drug deal lol. It was not something in the main part of the store. This was a total back room item, and I don't remember the exact cost, but it was not cheap. And the games were incredible.
Man short circuit is always so fun, I have no interest in most of the stuff here but having people passionate about different things and experiencing it is fantastic, and always a joy to watch
I agree, Short Circuit City is always at its best when their hosts and employees actually care about the passionate tech they are showcasing and reviewing; not just phoning in the reviews for worthless “peels” and “unboxing cardboard experiences”.
Talk about the tech, talk about the price, talk about the hardware, why it’s special and worth owning; and conclude with the value per dollar.
When you use an external powersupply, "regulations" see it as a low voltage device, therefore much easier to get cleared for safety. The 110V/230V safety regulations lays with the manufacturer of the external power supply. Once you connect a 110/230V directly to the arcade machine, then that whole device falls under that strict catagory.
This 100%, plus it's cheaper to go with a common external power supply that if it gets damaged in someway can be easy to replace.
Sell the power supply as an "included addon" with simple installation. It's just a waste of space the way they are doing it.
Yeah, I was looking for that exact comment to proof my thoughts on why they use an external PSU. 🙈 Thank you! 😁
That said... there is nothing stopping you from mounting it internally.
@@wobblysauce No nothing stopping you other than having to modify the power jack to be internal, and then pass the power plug through the case, but it would cause more heat to be inside the system as the PSU heats up. I would rather just cable manage the wires with some zip ties, and use some 3M double sided tape to mount the PSU to the outside of the back panel for airflow, and if it ever fails for some reason it's easier to place then having to open the system back up.
Personally I'm okay with the external power brick because it's gonna be easy to replace if something goes wrong.
If they built the power supply onto the board, a regular person would have a hard time repairing it.
Maybe the best of both worlds would be to hide the power brick inside. But I'm not sure if it would get too hot.
Generally speaking, if you've got a processor that doesn't even need a heatsink, your power supply doesn't to worry about cooling either.
The main reason is for NRTL compliance. Easier to get an already approved power supply than to have the entire cabinet inspected for safety.
@@thedopplereffect00 More like it is using a Raspberry Pi computer or similar to power the emulation
i love how im seeing you so much in the shortcircuit comments lol. i remember watching your videos like 3-4 years ago all the time
It doesn't even have to be on the board. Just inside somewhere for convenience.
I'm glad that Linus let's Anthony take the reins on his own interests, pretty cool. I also like the dynamic between them. Anthony is very analytical, and Linus is more of "use the wrench as a hammer" type, and that's not an insult, it's fun to watch.
Anthony is such a great host. Hes so natural and genuine. Articulate, thorough, and unapologetically himself.
I got deep into collecting MVS cartridges before they became ridiculously expensive. At the time, Windjammers (a banger) was less than $200 for the cartridge. Some games for the NEO GEO now cost more than this whole cabinet. In that sense, it's probably a good value for 50 games. Thanks for showing this off, Anthony!
Growing up with those games pretty much exclusively, alongside Tekken and a few others the nostalgia is a lot stronger on me, and it probably makes the system worth more to me. Anthony did a fair review as he always does.
I like how optimistic and positive he is throughout the whole process while discovering some pretty horrendous features "the scan lines get thicker and thinner... which is a problem??" "a lot of slowdown in this game, but I'm sure that's how it looked like in the actual hardware" "you would get used to having the button like this rather than having them like the original Neo geo."
such a nice guy!
>neo geo
>$450
Now THAT'S nostalgia. Even the cost of an arm and a leg is like it was in the 90s. Some things never change.
$450 for that amount of games is fine. Seriously. I have one of the old BIG Neo Geo arcade controllers...it was around $180. And no, i don´t want to talk about what i paid for the Neo Geo CD back in the day.
@@2nd_Directorate yeah this is bargain neogeo
@@NSixtyFour Depends on what experience you're looking for, if it's the true home arcade experience, and collecting each cartrige individually that's not even a bargain anymore. But if you just wanna play them games more or less legally, you can probably built an MVS system with a 150 in 1 cartrige for way less (also games and consoles are way cheaper on the MVS side of things, so go with that even if you don't want an all in one cartrige ).
people are fin with a $200 arcade machine with 1-2 games but $450 for 50 games is too much? lol
for any die hard SNK fan this is an absolute steal! especially because it actually has all the KoF games
I mean considering the AES was $650 without games in 1990 money (almost 1300 in 2020 money), that's not terrible. 50 games is pretty solid when you think about the competition, those Arcade 1 Up machines have a couple games tops and are about half as much. Plus they're Neo Geo games, which are a fair bit better quality than most other contemporary retro games imo.
Thanks for cracking this open and taking a look at the guts, no one else that I saw do videos on the MVSX were too scared.
I'm not super surprised to see essentially a raspberry pi inside, that's about what I do for my friends. Full size cabs are hard to sell, but everyone wants a tabletop game system.
Ashens took it apart.
_Is Nostalgia worth $450?_
Depends, does Anthony come included?
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I'd pay much more, if he is included
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@@Ikxi ikr
This isn't Wayfair.
If you watched the Terry Showcase for Smash Bros. the Director, Masahiro Sakurai, talked about the history of Neo Geo as well. As Terry is just as much as a SNK rep. then just purely a Fatal Fury rep.
now i wonder is Max Dood has one.
I enjoy and really wish Anthony had more on screen appearances.
Please, make anthony his own retro gaming series/channel.
He should definitely have a channel called "Linux Tech Tips" where he can cover retro gaming among other things. If only dreams came true.
@@geetsthenerd This _needs_ to happen. My life won't be complete until anthony has a channel names linux tech tips where he also does retro gaming.
Totally agree. Love this guy reviewing. 👍
All Hail King Anthony
"A lot easier than unboxing an actual arcade machine" now I have the feeling Anthony has arcade machines at home
I would like to see a short circuit of the team showing off some tech they personally own that they have a passion for.
I think they have an arcade in their staff lounge
@@devonkoudijs There is a LTT episode (from the intel extreme upgrade series) where you can see Anthony's house and the stuff he has, that comes close.
There's a video series where Intel gives $5k to some LTT employees to buy new setups and Linus goes and visits their houses to help install said setups. There's an episode with Anthony (and there's also one with Riley I believe... and more to come). Go check it out.
when i heard that i thought, "yeah, he seems like someone who would know that'
Pretty cool for whoever wants a NeoGeo Arcade without any effort.
I made one myself, there is a spanish place called Talentec that sells you DIY packages to build your stand and toptable for around 300/400 bucks, they ship worldwide.
In total it was more or less 600 bucks, ordered all electronics and inputs from there as well, the only thing I got myself was the actual device running the emulation, which was a Rasp Pi 4 which is running RetroPi and an 24' LCD I found for free.
My arcade for sure doesn't look as nice and polished as this one in terms of exterior aesthetics, but it was a lot of fun building it and I give it a lot more value having assembled it myself than buying it ready, plus its customizable, I'm running several emulators on it, over 20 thousand games which we all know I will not play 99.9% of them, all I cared for was NeoGeo anyways, huge fanboy of SNK.
Every other youtuber, "We were told we couldn't open it to see what's inside." Anthony, "Where's my screwdriver?" Lol, I love this channel!
Watch the Ashens vid
Anthony has came a long ways with his comfort level on camera. Love to see it.
I'm a simple man, I see Anthony, I click.
I only hate you because I was going to post this
I feel like it's been a month since I've seen him in anything, though I have a backlog of LTT vids to watch, so what do I know.
I was also going to post this. We’re all a bunch of Anthony simps.
Gay
And then click like before watching the video
@0:45 - to clarify for non collectors, the MVS (arcade) hardware is pretty common and relatively cheap to collect. The AES home console hardware is crazy expensive. For example, a real MVS arcade can be found for the same price point as this device.
"no neo turf masters" my man Anthony knows what's best on the Neo Geo
it was at that moment I knew he was a true man of culture
Turf Masters, the baseball game, the soccer game, and the bowling game were the best.
@@heavyq neo geo has like 10 soccer games
Oh no!!! -
Interesting review - I wanted to get into neo geo again and relive the joy of having an AES. Purchased an AES with 2 sticks, all boxed and 2 boxed games for £420 with shipping from Japan to UK. Then got an AES multicart for £80. Total was about £500 for everything. Having lots of fun and would much rather have the authentic experience than an emulation box - definitely worth the extra bit of money IMO 👍 great review - subscribed!
thats exactly what I should do
3:16 "It's tearable."
I don't know if that pun was intended, but I'm going to take it that way.
I love to see Anthony. He has such a smooth voice. He could read books and i would watch it.
The thumbnail selection is brilliant. Review of a home game arcade system is done by the no nonsense guy.
My boy Anthony is a fount of knowledge. I love his videos!
This is why I built my own full-size and bartop cabs running BigBox with genuine Sanwar control parts with a 25" or 34" monitor, custom side, marquee and control board artworks and NO VISIBLE SCREWS OR JOINT GAPS which IMO makes the massive difference between a toy and a genuine-looking arcade cab, this NEO GEO is ok but those controls won't last too long and most people end up modding them to play more games, in the end, it works out cheaper to build your own in the first place or buy a self-assembly kit
Well I am relieved to hear Anthony knows what a dragon punch is, Linus just mashes buttons like crazy.
If they haven't done it already, I wouldn't mind seeing LTT build an arcade cabinet.
ME: Nostalgia is PRICELESS 😏
MY WALLET: NO IT'S NOT!!
roms are.
I really appreciate the detail in the review, you know your stuff. Picking up stuff like non integer scaling and the type of buttons puts this content well above so many other tech channels.
Ahhh finally a new Anthony video. Good start to the week.
You could easily build a far superior cabinet with 3/4in black mdf from the hardware store, raspberry pie 4, 20in dell 2007fp lcd, an arcade stick and button kit from amazon, usb powered speakers. I bought a 1up Arcade on sale at walmart for 50$ (Galaga) took out the screen replaced with dell 2007fp, drilled extra holes for extra buttons and stick kit I found on Amazon, hooked up a raspberry pie 4 running retro pie. So for about 250.00 when all was said and done and it blows the doors off this thing. If you don't mind a little work it's an easy mod. The hardest part for me was making an mdf frame for the monitor so it looked nice. I added a thick glass screen in front of the lcd for effect but that's not needed. My nephews love it. I like going through random arcade roms I've never seen or got the chance to play I have so many I'll probably never get thru them all. lol. This thing is more of a NeoGeo collectors thing which I'm not knocking btw.
When I see Anthony, I click like
A Linus vid .... Skip.
Anthony or Riley... Stop, drop and watch. 👌🏻
He's my fav too.
We need more Anthony content. His demeanour is so calming and the content is always interesting.
JONO: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 3:04
This is worthwhile depending on where you live, how expensive materials are and more importantly how handy you are with tools to make one yourself. I am currently making one of these with a Raspberry pi, slightly nicer sticks and buttons and can vouch that cost of parts like the display, speakers and the wood, paint and misc supplies quickly add up to more than $500 if you factor your own hours of labor for a countertop like this one. Sure it can turn out nicer because you can customize it to your taste but its not a bad deal for the money if you are into Neo Geo. (Plus its legal.)
I'm a simple fan, I see anthony - I hit upvote.
Upvote?
I think you got the wrong website xDD
@@Ikxi *laugh reaction*
0:53 Me, someone who played most of KOF from 94 to 2003 and most Metal Slug games, all in arcade: THAT'S A PERFECTLY FINE RESOLUTION AND GRAPHICAL QUALITY ANDY!
At last!!! Anthony, the Icon of Linus.
Excellent look at this collection in an arcade cabinet, with that NeoGeo energy. Price tag wow.
And the breakdown, informative, and very cool. I never owned a NeoGeo. But it was an amazing system. Its price tag was very intimidating
The first time Ashens of all people managed to review something before Linus Tech Tips
I got an arcade 1up on sale for $50 last spring. I added new side art, a raspberry pi, and new controller deck. Now I have my own neo geo arcade machine and it is awesome!
This is such a cool video, Anthony’s amazing.
The whole time i thought this was an LTT episode, only the sponsor slot was weird xD
So happy you got to check this out.
For those interested in a better view at the filtering options just check out Ashen's review!
I'm very impressed with Anthony's knowledge. Knowing that the buttons were not Sanwa Denshi... put a smile on my face.
I loved my arcade games when I was a kid back in the 90s, but I was almost always disappointed when games like Pit Fighter, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat, etc, came out on consoles. They were never as good as the arcade versions; there just always seemed to be something missing.
Maybe it was just that it wasn't the same feeling as playing in the arcade, with the sounds from the machine's speakers, and all the other games in the background beeping away, and the smell of sweat, overheating circuit boards, and cigarette smoke, etc.
Or maybe consoles at the time were just crap.
But it was really hard to beat the feeling of popping 20p into Streetfighter II when some other kid was just about to beat M. Bison for the first time, and then whupping his ass with E. Honda's hundred hand slap and finishing the game yourself..
I had Pit Fighter on the Atari Lynx.
Talk about disappointment! 😂
@@bobafruti lol! Mine was on the Super Nintendo if I remember correctly.
But it was very pixelated and there were lots of things missing, like characters in the background, and there were no things to pick up and fling at your opponent, like chairs and barrels.
Nah, consoles at the time were shit compared to the arcade. Its not until the PS2/Xbox era where console finally become as powerful as an arcade machine.
@@third-ratedude4234 Yea, it was probably quite limiting, trying to fit everything into a cartridge and being limited by the hardware specs of the consoles at the time, whilst arcade games were basically built (I assume) with the required hardware and software that each game required.
At least for some games anyway.
I do miss cartridges though, they never had any loading times and were a lot more robust than CDs..
Anthony should do a review of the De-10 Nano with the MiSTer software! It has a great NEO-GEO FPGA core.
6:13 Anthony, this ain't capcom
Dragon Punch or DP is the term we use to describe the input forward, down, down forward in all fighting games.
No Robo Army? :( I really hope they expand the library...
Me being a 90's kid.
Nostalgia = Neverwinter Nights & Guild Wars 1
I would LOVE if Anthony did his own mini series on retro gaming in the modern day! Like going over what company's make best reproduction controllers for each console, things like that.
I recommend checking out the ashens review of this hunk of Junk.
A cultured individual I see
@@TheLaptopLagger I'm happy to see another cultured individual.
Strangely, I think Ashens review was better than Anthonys.
@@madbstard1 to be fair this is just a basic look at the cabinet. But his "they're okay" or whatever comment on the buttons really concerns me.
@@starpencil Yeah, thought he'd do a lot more info on it. Ashens hated the buttons as well, plus he really raged about the extra unusable white buttons. Had another look and the options menu/button config doesn't even include the whites. Wonder why they included them?
I have a Neo Geo and Win Kawaks on my drive. I love to play old arcade games especially Neo Geo games. KOF 2000 was king back in the day.
Nostalgia is what keeps Nintendo in business
I get buying this if you're an SNK collector, but for everyone else this is very little bang for the buck. A Pandora's Box gives you every game here plus 1000 more for about half the price, and any popular handheld retro portable device like the GPD XD has all of these games too.
I've seen a lot of RetroPie like that for a quarter of the price with 16000 games on it
And all those 16000 games are probably illegal copies but yeah, for 500 I was expecting way more, starting the fact that the build quality doesn't look specially good.
Where
for anyone actually wanting to play NeoGeo and not just buying something like this for interior decoration reasons I'd recommend Mister FPGA. few frames extra lag with software emulation might not sound like much but you will feel the difference when playing on hardware instead.
I was expecting a Raspberry Pi as thec heart of the system. xD
Anthony: "You'd have to build it yourself" and "There is better ways to do that" - I can see a build your own arcade machine with Anthony series coming along!
Last time I was this early, Linus was trying to make an Arcade PC
The coin slots on the front should be the buttons for adding credits , little touches like that make the experience original, or even a step further have it actually take a coin but it would just drop back down to the coin return opening
Something tells me that you are going to make a video to see if you can make your own for under 450
Depends on what are you standards for quality and effort. You can get cheap MVS consoles/carts seconhand, pair that with a supergun and some joysticks and your grandma's tv ( or any other CRT tv you can get for cheap, you don't have to get it from your grandma specifically. They provide the best neo geo experience in my opinion ) and you can make something that works for under 450$. but if you want an easy to setup and good looking option, this is probably the best you'll find at this price point.
Also I should metion the home console, but it's way more expensive (450 will get you the console and one or two games, depending on how cheeap they are), so not the best option if you're on a budget.
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It wouldnt even be hard. MiSTer FPGA is doing everything up to PS1s now I think. And you could probably put together one for like 200-350 bucks depending on how much you are willing to price shop, even a premade MiSTer kit is cheaper than this thing.
AES mode provides a proper challenge as you are generally provided with limited 4 or 5 credits to try to complete the game which is a realistic amount if you are good enough. The MVS Arcade mode allows people to endlessly enter credits which ultimately removes the point in playing to a degree
Yes epic timing.
The Intel Inside the Computer is a really neat tech history/nostalgic piece- you should check it out!
I fully expected a Raspberry Pi running emulation software there.
Same. I'd actually make one myself out of a Pi if not by the fact that I'm terrible working with wood and probably would cut myself three fingers off before reaching the drawing board.
the bartop is perfect for my game room, as I could set it right on top of my Tiki Bar for game nights with family, and friends, and it looks like it could be modded fairly easy. So going to have to save my coins for this one.
Every smash player when they see the packaging: "Oh no please don't" followed by a jab jab power dunk
Man.. Anthony can make interesting even an unboxing of a frypan. He is so meticulous in the translation to the viewer that you can't get bored, we need more Anthony. (Btw:But the whole crew is epic, don't get me wrong.)
MiSTer + high quality USB arcade stick with Sanwa parts.
That's all.
Exactly
Any references we can check out? I'm guessing CRT all the way for this build?
@@dc5330 MiSTer can simultaneously output to CRT and HDMI. Google MiSTer FPGA to find the github about the project, or look up Smokemonster or RMC The Cave's videos on youtube.
Look this is WORTH IT 100 percent. Compare it to arcade 1-up's machines which contain like 2-4 games and a stick with 2 buttons. This has 2 sticks 12 buttons and 50 games. Worth every penny and Im sure now you can probably add your own games.
Never ask permission to take something apart.
Beg forgiveness after you have already done it.
I often play lmg group videos on in the background when I'm working for company. I've got to say, Anthonys voice is much easier to listen to!
Im a simple man. I see Anthony in the thumbnail, I click.
@Like A God Ohh
@Like A God verbatim?
no internal PSU means the "console" doesn't need to comply with the high voltage electrical regulations. 12Vdc @ 3A means you can pretty much do just about whatever you want (short of actually connecting the +12V to the chassis) and you'll pass the safety tests. Given that you can just buy a labeled PSU to include in the box, it makes the engineering and regulatory side of this product much much easier.
The question is: Does it have RGB?
Yes, the screen.
It certainly can do!!!
Wait do you mean RGB LEDs or RGB video output for a professional monitor?
@@BobofWOGGLE I mean Rgb LEDs, i'm not referring to the screen
@@andreilazar9575 Fair enough. Gotta clarify when we're talking about retro gaming, especially Neo Geo.
Wish Anthony was in more videos. Hes no doubt my favorite employee in all of LTT. LOVE YOU ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"When it started to show up in hotels in japan..."
I read this at the moment he said it. Kinda weird.
Anthony should have his own channel honestly I learn so much watching his videos
agreed
Stuart Ashen already beat you to this! A tat channel beats a tech channel. Longer video too!
Such a smoothly spoken nerd. Exactly the content I subscribed for.
I'm a simple man: I see Anthony, I click.
Nostalgia is worth the 450 entry price. Thank you for sharing this. I miss the Neo Geo platform and now I have an inexpensive way to get some of these games back into my hands. (:
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SNK is not shy about taking those nostalgia dollars, but they're also one of the few companies that will actually sell you ROMS. They've been giving away several NeoGeo games per month through amazon prime/twitch gaming that come with an emulator already but the roms are clearly designated and accessible in the files.
I see anthony, I click.
I build one of these using an old AMD Trinity CPU, 2+2GB of DDR3 Ram, HDD, Seasonic powersupply, some chinese Sanwa knockoff kit (USB adaptor, meh buttons and good stick), some plywood, an old 19" TN panel I had... It's ok. And it was way cheaper than $450. It was something like... $300? But mind that prices of electronics here in Brazil (even used ones) are always 30% higher.
7 seconds ago lmao
I set up MAME with scanlines and self-made ultra hires slot mask on a 5K monitor. Hard to tell the difference with a CRT and makes the old games look fabulous.
Dude has a very unfortunate type of male pattern baldness. Glad he’s doing his thing, but he needs to embrace a different hair style. It really doesn’t look good as is.
Thank you Anthony for sharing a bit of retrogaming with us. We need more of these!
I am getting this to add to my Arcade1up and iiRcade collection. My whole basement is a gaming man cave.
If I had the money and space I'd would totally get the X-Men vs Street Fighter Arcade1up machine. I love me some X-Men: Children of the Atom