All About The Benjamins | with Carl Benjamin
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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this is a dream come true to someone who has a fetish for well-trimmed slightly greying beards
nohomo?
Why do I think beards just make us look like various breeds of dogs?
Is it because dogs are super fly when it comes to personal style?
@@j_freed brush, dat kush is too 🔥 for you
Fetish or just strong men? Hahaha.
You just like dads
Interviewing Sargon is such a power move after getting 'banned' by the feminists this week. Great timing, looking forward to this crossover.
what is this 'ban' you speak of?
This is a very long winded account of what happened when I used the word “whore” in a pun:
ua-cam.com/video/QqUS_lg6QOE/v-deo.html
@@BenjaminABoyce and he wasn’t banned from anything - surely making hay out of it though.
......Compared to some, I couldn't imagine B Boyce being banned for anything.
@@mippim8765 He shouldn't be banned from anything but the rules arent what matters anymore. If you are a threat to the hegemony in any way, those in power (creating and protecting their narrative) will find a reason its necessary to silence you. Benjamin is clever, articulate, funny, and inciteful. He certainly represents a serious threat with seemingly no dark past to twist and abuse easily. You *will* see some form of censorship for Benjamin. However, with someone like him, until they can find a viable excuse to call him some sort of "ist" people will care about, it might be their best attack just to hold back his spread through algorithmic control. Thats why its best to spread these interviews as best you can.
Finding my two favorite social philosophizing men having a chat? Am I in heaven? What a delightful, entertaining interview. Thank you, Benjamin(s)!
They are both great, I agree.
only made better if BB was in his tiger print dressing gown and occasionally vaping...
@@melhawk1352 I don't think I could have had handled that, though, so I'm glad he kept it subtle.
@@elizabethcrocker3819 :)
C. Benjamin said, "If they had access to a guillotine, they would use it," and he is correct. That is why your latest "Detrans" offer blew up. You had someone on who appears still willing to pull the cord being used to cut off others' body parts. You had viewers who are at, or nearing, a point where they won't choose empathy to avoid hurt feelings over action to save lives.
Vividly and accurately expressed summary of the situation. Thank you.
This is cash money right here. Carl played a large part in why I've found myself here.
He just wanted to play video games.
Carl: "Let me know when you want to start."
Boyce: "uh...."
Sweet Po donned her naughty fedora,
To cover her mop so deplora,
But rather than grovel,
She's hawking her novel,
Of partying deep in Gomorrah!
@@thebibosez7949 Your use of "she" is probably incorrect.
@@____uncompetative Po has her own videos wherein Po is both a birthing person and a fedora wearer, making "she" a strong probability. See, for example,
ua-cam.com/video/vCrZPs2FNpA/v-deo.html
glad to see you, have you caught up with JPs re-emergence. He is looking so much better as he recovers his mind is still sharp.
@@grahamgodfrey11 Jordan Peterson's vindictive attacks on MGTOW - men who see the many pitfalls of marriage - indicates that his mind remains patricidal. What a great role model for the whorthodoxy.
Glad to see this kind of cross-pollination. Carl can be a little militant at times when it comes to his cultural philosophy, so it's always good to have a Boyce of reason around to temper it somewhat (although to be quite frank a more militant approach to ideals like social responsibility & self-improvement seems rather warranted given the current state of affairs).
I like his militant approach. We definitely need that kind of old school mindset today. The lack of discipline in today’s society is atrocious.
@@umiluv Agreed.
Bertrand Kurt Russell approves of Carl Benjamin Boyce
😂 Oof! 👌Perfecto!
Carl Benjamin is such a genuine, straightforward guy. I trust him like I trust one of my friends to do the right thing and I don't even know him. He's really good natured.
Just don't do anything around him that could be misconstrued as "grooming."
@@Louis-wp3fq Don't misconstrue what he means by 'grooming.'
Because that would be dishonest.
Louis thinks age is just a number - naughty lu lu
𝙞𝙛 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙬𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙩𝙝 𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙢𝙥𝙨 𝙮𝙤𝙪'𝙙 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙞𝙢 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙝𝙤𝙡𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙗𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙨.
@cowabunga, dude I agree!
If you guys morphed into one person you could be Benjamin Benjamin. That would be spectacular.
Wouldn't that come with the dreadful side effect of unleashing one Carl Boyce on the world?
@@Hurmeri LOL yes, that could happen
@@Hurmeri Carl Boyce sounds like a good name for a father figure.
If that person were Jewish, he could be Benjamin ben Benjamin.....
It's all about the Benjamins..
This is a video I have been waiting for 4 years. I superchatted Sargon when you first started the Evergreen saga and he was not yet aware of your work. Bravo to you both for helping maintain my sanity.
We spoke last year but I think this one we understood each other’s communication mode better.
The UK dropped the criminalisation of international travel a few weeks ago. Now, you can fly anywhere in the world (depending on whether that country will let you in) but the restrictions you face when you return to the UK are dependant on whether the UK government judges that country to be green, amber or red. It’s all quite ludicrous.
Also lets them leverage access to your home on return as contingent on providing DNA samples.
The crossover I was not expecting but I’m stocked for!
Award Winning Thumbnail 🏅
Top 10 genre crossovers
Boyce's coining of "whorthodoxy" is much more than clever wordplay - it is a kamikaze attack on feminism worthy of an armored MRA. Bravo!
Not got there yet but I’ve two readings of what you wrote and either could be very useful: ‘whorethodoxy’ & ‘worthodoxy’; from the context I presume the topic is the first but I had initially read it as the latter, which is also interesting.
@@GodsOwnPrototype While I do find worthodoxy in naming "whorthodoxy" I am less sanguine about the worthodoxy of the whorthodox themselves.
@@mrminer071166 I experience "whorthodoxy" as the opposite of "patriarchy" but with a paradoxical sting of toxic femininity. Of course both terms can mean almost anything sinister, depending on the mood of the reader.
Benjamin Boyce did not coin the word "whorthodoxy". His neologism was as follows:
*Whorethodoxy*
@@____uncompetative Thanks for noting that. I was using the British spelling (no 'e') to be inclusive of our quests from across the pond but I can understand that many Americans, like Joe Biden, are quite racist against the British cultural diversity.
Carl has mellowed out so much the last 2 years or so, ever since he had his kid. Definitely become a more rounded dude, you can see growth.
He also started reading the classics of the Western cannon. Kids give you skin in the game, and diving into the great philosophies gives you depth of thought.
I never knew the old Sargon people speak of. Quite cool to see a well rounded person and then find out they weren’t always that way
When pewdiepie and crowder have kids that’s when the tide shifts
And he went on a diet and became less-rounded, too!
@@ryanceros9510 rofl
This is the platform Sargon needed for a few things to crystallize. Excellent work Mr. Boyce.
I’ve been thinking the same things about boundaries. Nice to hear someone else say it. For one it starts with them having awful interpersonal boundaries and then they turn their codependency issues into political goals.
Well seeing this pop up on my subscriptions was a wonderful surprise
Caravan: a trailer
Council Estate: the Projects
omg I never expected this crossover for some reason but it makes so much sense because YOU both make so much sense! I gotta go bed now just wanted to leave a comment to let the algorithm know I'm very excited to watch this in the morning
Good morning
@@Kenfren Morning! :)
Carl is such an entertaining communicator, while being a classical thinker. I always enjoy his conversations.
The collab no one asked for but everyone will love ...
Am I noone? (it's ok , I already know I am ).
“Lotus Eaters” is no more odd than “Sargon of Akkad”. Comments seem to be somewhat better on pay sites.
I have been waiting for this for years
This is their second conversation (just in case you weren't aware), I recommend their first one in Benjamin Boyce's channel
Carl is right. Boyce is a great interviewer. That's because he is genuinely open-minded and interested in other people's views.
It's like he's studying a physical subject and asking the interview what he sees in that subject (more interest in understanding the objective nature of the subject and less emotional attachment to said subject).
'Do decent.not just avoiding harm' sounds shit hot to me. Listening to clear communication helps this reader to reconsider their positions and actions. This was totally enjoyable for me. Ta.
Two of the best people pushing back on this insane culture war. Good to see you together. This is exciting!
Oh, this is excellent!
What? Guess I'll have to crack a cold one with the Boyce and the dad.
I don’t have the time right now to watch this. But I gotta give a thumbs up Be back soon for the Benjamins!,!
"They've made nature a counter revolutionary force"
Daaaaamn
Maybe it's the whisky talking but Sargon and Benjamin together is just magic
You say that like whiskey never speaks the truth!
Sargon is one of those people that really well embody the idea of classical liberalism.
Well, I wasn't expecting this!
No one expects the Benjamish Exposition
@@BenjaminABoyce Our main weapon is speaking! Speaking and listening! Aahh! Two! Two main weapons!
The genius of the title/thumbnail obliges me to dutifully watch this 'til the end :D
There is an innate desire to have something to fight and when people run out of things to fight for they start making things up, like St George swinging his sword at thin air after defeating the dragon.
We need to have conversations about how people can satisfy that desire in a way that doesn't negatively impact society.
Great conversation; always a treat to hear Carl's ideas. Waffle on!
What's gonna set you free?
Look inside and you'll see
When you've got so much to say it's called gratitude
And that's right
Actually, in the US an employer cannot legally ask one's age. That's ageism. But he can ask one's year of birth. Which is like... YOU CAN CALCULATE IT! That's the insanity we live in.
But for decades they have allowed recruiters from other countries to come in and recruit. Those same recruiters demand photos, age, and a plethora of info. the US law says is not to be asked for.
RE: @11:08
my parents didn't tell me Sant wasn't real. What they did instead was: when I was at an age (about 5, maybe 6?) where I should've grown out of wanting my security blanket all the time, my parents tried to convince me to part with it and maybe donate it to a younger kid. But I refused. I loved that blanket. So they snuck into my room late at night in mid December & took it. The next day they told me that Santa came & took it because he needed to give it to a younger kid that needed it more than me. After that, me & Santa, were DONE! I remember telling my parents: "That Santa is not a very good man to be stealing blankets from kids.." 😅 😂 🤣
lol
41:11 Actually it's the disenchantment of the post-enlightenment west that they are pissed off about. This causes them to turn to linguistic sorcery because they don't understand enchantment.
"Linguistic sorcery," I like that.
I like this take. Très bien.
First time I came across the pronoun thing was in a pagan group who wove spells lol. We sat around in a big circle of 60 declaring our pronouns! Wtf I'd known most of them 5 years or more. The bulk of people was age 30 to 40. I was an oldie. Not an elder. A boomer. Increasingly less respect everytime we met. They'd bought this pronoun idea back from San Francisco. It was an Aussie group. At first I thought it not too bad. Quit the group in 2019 - trans was too much. I'd made good friends with two trans people. Left because I was a transphobe according to their definition.
Attempts at linguistic alchemy.
I don’t think the Puritans were persecuted because of the religious beliefs in their heads but more because they were socially aggressive, holier than thou, moral busybodies...a bit like the woke crusaders today.
Maybe Elon Musk can save humanity by sending all the Wokistanis to space?
An extraordinary interview and interaction. Kudos.
I love Carl man. He makes me believe in something larger than myself and that I have a calling to and an obligation to strive towards it.
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This must be your most based guest ever. I love Sargon.
When clicked the play button I could swear I felt the Earth tremble.
Great graphic with the Benjamins! Great guest!
Laudanum! My friend gave me a bottle of homemade laudanum and a bottle of hash vodka for my 18th birthday. I was very, very sick.
No, there's only one suitable way to introduce an interview like this: "My guest certainly needs no introduction from me - so he's not flipping getting one! Carl Benjamin, everybody"
Finally. Really been waiting for this interview for a while.
Just so happens I was reading Edith Hamilton and the Odyssey when Sargon et al’s ‘lotus eater’ channel was launched. Good stuff.
Now Benjamin....
The next time you have Wokal Distance, and James Lindsay on....
Invite Carl as well.
That would be a treat to watch 😀.
Those podcasts are my favorite content of yours, Carl would make them even better, and better yet...
In the culture war, the connection that has yet to be made in a conversation, in one way or another, is James Lindsay with Carl Benjamin.
I've been wanting to see that interaction for a while now.
True. If inclusion is the desirable goal, then you end up with a lowest common denominator. There will be no success, no necessary progress because you will have to have people in wheelchairs running the 100 m. dash, and god forbid they not get their equal share of wins. You'll have to have blind people flying planes. You'll have to have students from WA high schools accepted into TESC, and graduating with honors, even though they never took a single valid evaluation because they had to walk to class across a campus with trees dripping with racism, and where every blade of glass is a potential Adolf, Heinz, or Leni, so they are exempt from examination.
A punster named Benjamin Boyce,
Was giving the Right quite a voice:
It takes lots of moxie,
To coin "whorthodoxy",
Which caused Twitter tarts to rejoice!
I hope he frames this.
11:00 I slipped and accidentally told one of my kids the easter bunny isn't real. A day after easter, she found a couple chocolate eggs in the cupboard. Without thinking I said, "Oh yeah, I forgot I hid those there." You could just see the 'oh crap' look on my face after I said it.
A top conservative historian who deserves more widespread notoriety: Victor Davis Hanson (Hoover Institute) , specialist of military history and Classics, and analyst of contemporary issues from a historical perspective more generally.
Benjamin - you made Carl pause and think several times. Congrats!
That actually caught me off guard!
I believed “lotus eaters” was a reference to the flower Egyptians would submerge in wine for psychotropic effects
I really enjoy your channel. I discovered it not long ago. The only recommendation I have is splitting up these episodes into more easily consumed portions, and maybe a highlight reel to bring attention to specific points you feel are important.
Social media may be hell incarnate, but the easier is it to get your point across, the greater chance of extending your reach and spreading the word
UHmazing interview. Thoroughly enjoyed every moment.
Well done with the title/thumbnail
A mighty fine thumbnail I must say!
Australia hasn't had a single death all year, (well except for 2 vaccine blood clot deaths) but certain cities are still fining people $5000 for leaving. We've been locked in our homes and had checkpoints ensuring we didn't leave the 5km radius around each home during our single visit to the shops for food.
The problem with the broad overarching value system of the liberal state is that it becomes difficult to pull people together to protect it when it is under attack. This is a criticism that Third Positionists make, and it seems to be true. We can see it in the current state of the West.
Yep, and then the wingnuts on both extremes are able to destroy that liberal order from within by exploiting its own values, turning all of its strengths into weakness.
I enjoyed the last one, can't wait to see this one
Don’t know who this Sargon guy is, but he’s about to blow up.
I'm actually excited for this one.
Ahhh what a gift - two of the best smoothest voices in podcast world. Have followed Carl from the early days and Benjamin since evergreen - Thankyou both for putting out there material that feeds the mind and soul when others want to starve us to death of alternative views and with that hope
Gratitude needs to be over 9000
So many comments and so little space.
So I will things at - What a great conversation and thank you so very much!
Benjamin: a caravan is a trailer. his dad grew up in a trailer park, then joined the Royal Air Force as an enlisted and made Sgt. i think there was some confusion about the Anglicisms there that you left unclear. Carl himself grew up partially in Germany on an RAF base. he also said Coomer which is a meme about NPCs that just basically look at porn all the time and waste their lives "coomin" which if you say it in a British accent makes more sense like "AHHHHM COOOOMINNN"
1Hr 24mins of proper discourse!!
Excellent discussion, gentlemen.
I'll be jammin on this tomorrow morning.
i see what you did there
This is one of the weirdest and funkiest crossovers I have seen on UA-cam, but it works.
I've been waiting for this
I really recommend you read the trilogy " Remembrance of Earth's Past"
It's written by a Chinese guy, but is highly critical of China and the left. It's sci fi, but based on real scientific theories and real political situations, with the kind of hyperboles as you might see on the discovery channel or something used as plot devices
I like the way this guy interviews
Yes it’s sort of mostly interviewing himself, and asking for feedback. 🤣
Hahaha, love the thumbnail
no way! Awesome discussion!
Just amazing two amazing characters together, very grateful for the $s!!!!
18:46 When Carl talks about the Levellers here, I think he's talking about the Diggers. The Levellers were a proto-liberal movement who believed in the equality of the sexes (they had no issue, for instance, with women preaching the gospel), and favoured a form of democracy wherein every male head of household in England should be given the right to vote. They were led by a man named John Lilburne, and reached their peak during the English Civil War (1642-1649).
The Diggers meanwhile, were a proto-Communist movement that existed around the same time, who believed in common ownership of property and land among families, did not believe in the state, rejected the buying and selling of goods and believed in an intrinsic, spiritual connection between man and nature, as ordained by God. They were led by a man named Gerard Winstanley, and the reason why they rejected the state is because they believed in a primitive form of the Norman Yoke myth, which put forth the idea that common, everyday Englishmen had had their freedoms restrained by an oppressive foreign aristocracy (most of the English nobility, as well as some of the lowland Scottish nobility, were of Norman ancestry), and that England prior to the Norman conquest had been a place of pure, unfettered liberty. They attempted to set up a commune on St George's Hill, at Weybridge, in Surrey, in 1649. They ended up getting arrested for it after the noble who owned the land summoned Sir Thomas Fairfax, the commander of the army at the time, who sent in troops to remove the Diggers from the land.
Sargon is wrong about a lot of things usually
My name is also Benjamin! 😂
Super! Two finely bearded gentlemen! Thank you Benjamins!
Well I've been living mlks dream since 3rd grade and I'm 49 now
For REAL! I’m 39 and I remember being taught about MLK and to strive for color blindness. So glad I was taught by the same teachers that taught Gen X because they all left after No Child Left Behind (aka common core) was implemented.
Superb I loved it.
Another fantastic interview!
I didn't even think this would ever happen, thank you both ❤🤘
What a treat
Suggested principles for the lotus eaters.
Preserve enlightenment values and the primacy of the value of the individual.
Extol the virtues of our culture through history.
Acknowledge the mistakes of our culture through history and learn from them.
Tell the truth and be virtuous even when faced with defeat.
Preserve the right of free expression especially for those with whom you disagree.
I love this!
Benjamin Boyce and Carl Benjamin/Sargon crossover?!? 😱
Title is Boycian word play perfection 👌
42:51 They want enchantment, but we've culturally lost the secret of enchantment (which is participatory) so they turn to sorcery. To be fair the right also practices sorcery in lieu of enchantment. There are some rare artistic figures who are still in touch with the echoes of enchantment, but almost everything produced out of the right or left is the sorcery of propaganda.
Even as I walked across the valley of death I found a flower
that flower brought me out of the darkness
reminded me that beauty and kindness still existed in the world.
Stay kind and focus on the flowers in life
"So what your saying is" please think of the children
The Lotus was an opium poppy, Anatolia was one of the main sources of opium in the Hellenic Mediterranean.
Love the show, hate the name.
It’s a perfect name for for a reactionary grifting circle jerk
@@ourfatherinthegreen4065 define: Grift.
Don't use big words unless you understand their meaning.
1:08:49 BTW, "caravan" is what we'd call a "camper" in the US.