Put them into a stock car and they will bang gears, put yourself in those cars and you will miss every shift. Its the clutch that's not disengaging. I was like them until I put a bigger diameter clutch master cilinder and now I can disengage the clutch more and now the disc is free. I can change into 3rd spining standing still
So true mate, my ST is 308bhp and 517nm that was on a hot day 25c temps. And that’s nice power for daily use, of course I want 600bhp but I doubt I’ll have as much enjoyment because it’ll be all over the road with fair bit more lag. I will be going maximum 450bhp with an RS setup and that’ll be me 👍🏻
@@reganbourne3249 600hp through the front wheels is absolutely pointless. Complete torque steer central and only good for straight line speed (which gets boring incredibly fast).
All the power they are supposed to have and even my stock 640d with 313hp would win 🤦♂️ also my stock 330d ran faster times 😂 maybe a lower trap speed but definitely quicker.
@@ia5591 pretty hard when the GEARBOX throws in the towel on both cars which is clearly visible on camera No mention of built of modded box on the VXR so you've got cogs built to run 220bhp running over 600bhp
@@jochem1986 zzzzzzz double clutching in a drag 1/4 mile even with gear boxes that work and are capable of handing X3 the power they were made for PLEASE PLEASE
I need a sleep after that one! Missed gear changes galore, pulling off in 1st like you don’t want to wake the neighbours and then waiting for the boost to build up in 2nd, more wheelspin than a bald tyres BMW in the snow and a whole bible full of excuses! Just another day for a big turbo FWD car 😂
@@sugarsaintseems like the RS actually had second gear problems and not the vxr.. Vxr only missed second from the line race😂 and he missed it because he clearly was feeling himself and looking at the lads on the right 😂😂😂
Jesus, who mapped these? It seems like theres nothing there until 1k below the limiter. No point having all that power if its not useable. Also, why dont people practice so they can actually launch, change gear, etc? It seems like they just mash the throttle and bang it iff the limiter for 5 minutes before changing gear. Why not modulate it with your foot and a decent map? I love watching a good driver in a manual that works. There doesn't seem to be any driver skill anymore, its all driver aids and programming. When thats not there... Heres the result. Its a shame. Good on you all for having a go but why not practice first, make the car reliable and learn to modulate wheelspin and get it mapped so you can actually accelerate through 90% of the rev range rather than 10%
That's the thing half these cars are boost limited in the first couple gears to eliminate wheel spin, but then that makes for boring viewing, and driving.
Dan @ RnD is meant to be a decent tuner. The problem with the VXR is the turbo is a 3584, it's huge for the power it's running, equivalent to a G35-1050 which is insane to strap to a 2L. Should make around 600hp with a G25-660 or G30-660, with nowhere near the lag. 900hp capable turbo on a 600hp car 😬
Another great video but jamie bro get some new walkie-talkie's man all the money ya spend on ya car's 😂 ya can afford to get some new radio's bro lol 😂
@@deanharriss2029they are ok if you don’t abuse the life out of them. Over fill them with oil and have the gen2 bearings, I’ve had 430nm going through mine for 3 years and now 500nm and it’s been fine so far! 🤞🏻
From having a tuned vxr myself I can confirm they are awkward to shift if you don’t do it properly, he was ramming it into gear wayy too hard on these runs. Needed to be more gentle on the gear changes. Would have slipped straight in
Feels like I've seen this showdown many times before. This was THE rivalry in my local street racing scene in Voortrekker road, Pretoria, South Africa. 😂💪🏿
It's crazy having cars like this and not being able to shift gears. 50% of the time, people miss gears on this channel. Invest more on your driving than you do on your car
Imagine if both of them changed gear instead of sitting on the limiter constantly. Have to be the worst drivers I've ever seen on your channel Jamie and both and at the same time too which is unlikely 😂
Vxr is a hard car to get shifting right if you have the stock shifter. It has to have the polyurethane bushes and short shifter and it helps alot. Gearbox mountings also has lots of movement making it harder to get right
See how the second drag race the VXR was spinning sitting next to the RS? RS is a local car and I’ve personally seen it/been in 400bhp cars that comfortably push it around, unfortunately a lot of money but just ain’t fast, never has been guys had the car for 10 years +
One of the hardest races to watch. I miss manual races with drivers like Affi and the dude with the white STI (22B maybe?). Also, how tf, you pushing 600hp and only running on 225s? 🤷🏽♂️
As sick as it sounds to hit your limiter you are losing valuable speed and time down the strip, shift it soon as it hits the limiter lads. As always great video Mr OG ❤
I cant get enough Motorcycle vs Car content. (I just came from the busa vs porsche vs h2 video) I just love it. I would REALLY love to see the crighton cr700w someday maybe here in one of your races.... I know it's rare but that would be an absolute beast
MERRY CHRISTMAS PEOPLE!🎄 I hope everyone had a blessed time 🙏🏽
What colour pulsar gtir have you choose m8 🎉🎉🎉 see if you can find a green one.. ultra rare colour in the gtir world 😂
Same back to you and yours too.
Merry Christmas to you too
I would have the vxr because I'm a vauxhall man
Merry Xmas to u too bro
DSGs are made for these 2 fellas.
💀💀💀
😂
@@skorge987987 all the gears & no idea 🤣
😂😂
Truly
These two absolutely butchered this head to head with their serious lack of basic driving skills lol
😂😂😂
Talk about bad drivers
Agreed. Lad drivers instead of "Baby Driver".
Shocking drivers…. Can’t even change gears…. Terrible
Put them into a stock car and they will bang gears, put yourself in those cars and you will miss every shift. Its the clutch that's not disengaging. I was like them until I put a bigger diameter clutch master cilinder and now I can disengage the clutch more and now the disc is free. I can change into 3rd spining standing still
Starting a GoFundMe for driving lessons for these guys
😂😂
Savage 😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂
That vauxhall guys friend "thats how you drive" when constantly missing every gear 😂😂😂😂😂
That's his brother and he said that after the rolls - he should be proud he built the car
Didn't miss the gear lol wouldn't select the gear big difference lol
Vxr Got Issues with gearbox Nah Matching Powerband
And living on the Rev limiter 😂
@@sugarsaintthey build was poor, same as the tune.
Tyrone! i thought you said he was a getaway driver? What the F can he get away from? 🤣
Great film! Even now I use sooo many quotes from it 😂
'You could park a jumbo jet in that spot.' 😂
"It's a fucking anti-aircraft gun Vincent!" Amazing movie 😂
Lock stock, Tyrone 😂😂
This is hilarious
So after 20+ grand in mods. They're both slower than they were standard
When ya put it like that sounds mad 😂😂these cars need to stay at around 300bhp plenty enough
Facts 😭🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
So true mate, my ST is 308bhp and 517nm that was on a hot day 25c temps. And that’s nice power for daily use, of course I want 600bhp but I doubt I’ll have as much enjoyment because it’ll be all over the road with fair bit more lag. I will be going maximum 450bhp with an RS setup and that’ll be me 👍🏻
@@reganbourne3249 600hp through the front wheels is absolutely pointless. Complete torque steer central and only good for straight line speed (which gets boring incredibly fast).
If you can't drive manual, then don't bother racing in one.
Worst drivers in the history of this channel.
😂😂
Literally my thoughts...
them and that dude that was on the channel racing in a black honda civic
Who was the guy who drove the car off the track? @@ntuthukombatha8975
Lol slating vxr guys driving.... that gearbox is shit gears 2,4,6 leave the chat whats has happened here
maybe get some drivers for the cars next time ?
It's not how much power you have, it's how much you can use.
And if you can change gear
All the power they are supposed to have and even my stock 640d with 313hp would win 🤦♂️ also my stock 330d ran faster times 😂 maybe a lower trap speed but definitely quicker.
Most of that Astra's power ended up in the till at the tyre shop.
*tire
It frustrated me watching it nevermind if I'd sunk 20k into one of them 😭
Double amount in the focus than the astra. Crazy lol
I would not sink 20p into a ford.
Manual gearboxs left the chat!
😂💀
how hard is it to shift a car 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Have u ever drove a 600bhp manual vxr or rs they are a bag of shit to drive hard work I have drove a 500 hp vxr the gear box was terrible
@@ia5591 pretty hard when the GEARBOX throws in the towel on both cars which is clearly visible on camera
No mention of built of modded box on the VXR so you've got cogs built to run 220bhp running over 600bhp
Then double clutch and take a bit more time.
@@zac6519yeh i shift them properly
@@jochem1986 zzzzzzz double clutching in a drag 1/4 mile even with gear boxes that work and are capable of handing X3 the power they were made for PLEASE PLEASE
That Vxr driver definitely had a Honda before that Astra
🤣🤣
I need a sleep after that one! Missed gear changes galore, pulling off in 1st like you don’t want to wake the neighbours and then waiting for the boost to build up in 2nd, more wheelspin than a bald tyres BMW in the snow and a whole bible full of excuses! Just another day for a big turbo FWD car 😂
FWD is a joke. Just look at the leaderboard, lol!
If the VXR driver could actually drive his own car this would have been way closer
yeah i think the vauxhall is faster when everything works. it looked like it when they were side by side.
All I know is on the rolls that VXR HAULS BUTT, but from the first drag he explained no 2nd gear which was clear as day on the camera
@@sugarsaintseems like the RS actually had second gear problems and not the vxr.. Vxr only missed second from the line race😂 and he missed it because he clearly was feeling himself and looking at the lads on the right 😂😂😂
@@sugarsaintwhy didn't he miss it the second race? 😂Or on the rolling races? Vxr had no second gear issues, RS did
I definitely did lol then lost 4th too but what would I know
Baffles me people show up to these events without even practicing and without being able to drive their own cars
Exactly bro happens all the time. Videos spoilt because people aren't prepared or haven't practiced
I think they turn up thinking they are good drivers and then get an education
im amazed at how Jamie can still keep a straight face with these two drivers🤣🤣
Deletes scenes will be funny I'd imagine
Perfect timing, just sat down on the throne 😂
Bro same here 🤣🤣😭😭😭
Hahaha I’m the same
Same here!!!!
Same here😂
Yes lad same here 😂
Vxr driving like my African auntie in Asda car park on Saturday afternoon
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s amazing how many people these days can’t drive in a straight line without fucking it up.
And you could ?
@@turboyardi5358yes.
Makes you wonder how they'd cope with a few corners... 😱
@jamesowen418 the car isn't built for track bro
@@turboyardi5358who’s 300 at wheels?
Mine made 403 at wheels at 25psi on a 2871HTA-M. On a 1600cc.
I don't think front tyres and gearboxes have ever led shorter and more cheerful lives.
"Power, without control is nothing"
Dunno why people put so much effort and money in tuning these cars and then, leave them manual and cant shift a damn gear :D
It wouldn’t be a real VXR without some shite stickers plastered over the back end.
The Ford scene is renowned for that also. They love a four foot Airtec sticker lol
Makes a change seeing a Ford without Disney or cartoon stickers on 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 both of them don't know how to change gears. Tell them to get automatic 😂😂😂😂
These boys are not drivers 🥴
This is the most comical no shifting limiter bashing amateur lag wagon race I've seen in ages 🤣🤣 Thanks for this Jamie haha
Jesus, who mapped these? It seems like theres nothing there until 1k below the limiter. No point having all that power if its not useable. Also, why dont people practice so they can actually launch, change gear, etc? It seems like they just mash the throttle and bang it iff the limiter for 5 minutes before changing gear. Why not modulate it with your foot and a decent map? I love watching a good driver in a manual that works. There doesn't seem to be any driver skill anymore, its all driver aids and programming. When thats not there... Heres the result. Its a shame. Good on you all for having a go but why not practice first, make the car reliable and learn to modulate wheelspin and get it mapped so you can actually accelerate through 90% of the rev range rather than 10%
exactly what i said bud! 👏🏻
Well said
That's the thing half these cars are boost limited in the first couple gears to eliminate wheel spin, but then that makes for boring viewing, and driving.
Dan @ RnD is meant to be a decent tuner. The problem with the VXR is the turbo is a 3584, it's huge for the power it's running, equivalent to a G35-1050 which is insane to strap to a 2L. Should make around 600hp with a G25-660 or G30-660, with nowhere near the lag. 900hp capable turbo on a 600hp car 😬
@JamesBalazs dan is a decent tuner are u mad you come race me we see
So the standard 520d faster than those two 600hp “hot” hatches?😂
Must be embarrassing
We need a second channel Jamie, Officially Shift.
Or officially shit 😂😂
The sound check was the highlight of this video.😂
I would prefer 100hp less and a smaller turbocharger that responds better. But both cars are excellent 👍🏻
They were chasing the most power they could possibly get and ended up with slower cars. Two chumps with two dogs.
in those 5 mins of racing there was 50 missed gears😅
I wish North America got that 2.5 Volvo powered RS. Those T5 Volvo engines are bloody torque monsters
What engine did you get? Did they even sell an RS or ST in the US Kyle?
@@bobeyes3284they only got the 2.0 duratec and the mk2 focus was only sold in a coupe. Only rs/st versions they got was the mk3......
@@bobeyes3284 NO
@@bobeyes3284 North America got stuck with the 2.3 4 banger :(
You got the C30 with the same power
Another great video but jamie bro get some new walkie-talkie's man all the money ya spend on ya car's 😂 ya can afford to get some new radio's bro lol 😂
“I think I’m forgetting something…. The gear I think I might need to shift perhaps “
Money don’t buy skill
Was thinking that m32 gearbox wasn’t going to last and it didn’t disappoint 🤣🤣
There cheese with 240hp going through them. lol.
@@deanharriss2029they are ok if you don’t abuse the life out of them. Over fill them with oil and have the gen2 bearings, I’ve had 430nm going through mine for 3 years and now 500nm and it’s been fine so far! 🤞🏻
Diesel 6 speed is the one
600 HP and 6.5 sec 0 - 100 🤦♂
Standard clio 182 goes faster 😂
Once typical case of all gear no idea , shocking driving from both , but great builds !
From having a tuned vxr myself I can confirm they are awkward to shift if you don’t do it properly, he was ramming it into gear wayy too hard on these runs. Needed to be more gentle on the gear changes. Would have slipped straight in
I lasted 8 mins, couldn’t watch anymore of the utter gash driving skills!
If you don't love a mk2 rs theres something wrong with you!
It's just a shame this one is owned by an absolute 🔔 end
😂
Feels like I've seen this showdown many times before. This was THE rivalry in my local street racing scene in Voortrekker road, Pretoria, South Africa. 😂💪🏿
Lol cool seeing a fellow brother from 🇿🇦 commenting,Cape Town here and true story that was the battle and still is to this day
These man need to get DSG conversions done.
It's "men"
Plural of man is men.
If the lad in the VXR could reach his gear stick, rather than driving with the elbow delete then he might’ve stood a chance 🤦🏽
That would have been an epic race if the owners could actually drive their cars.
If you cant find it grind it.
Long time subscriber first time commenter…….love the content Jamie you have all these crazy builds going on but you REALLY need better radios
It's crazy having cars like this and not being able to shift gears. 50% of the time, people miss gears on this channel. Invest more on your driving than you do on your car
jeeees please sell those cars and let them only drive Automatic cars, DAMN those poor gearbox!
well done betsy , cracked me up that's the name of my astra
Great race but they need to utilise the 50% off currently at halfords for driver mods
6am over here in the states and I’m watching my favorite car channel 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 this video bro another great video
I recommend iracing racing simulator for the 2 drivers.
My man in that vxr is running that limiter like he's in a type r 😂
Imagine if both of them changed gear instead of sitting on the limiter constantly. Have to be the worst drivers I've ever seen on your channel Jamie and both and at the same time too which is unlikely 😂
Damn, thats the fastest, slow race ive seen in ages...
So many drivers on here cock up the gear changes. Pressure will be high for sure mistakes happen. Always love the cars. OG is where it’s at!
Limiter was definitively present in the chat 🤣
Vxr is a hard car to get shifting right if you have the stock shifter. It has to have the polyurethane bushes and short shifter and it helps alot. Gearbox mountings also has lots of movement making it harder to get right
Pops and bangs central, I couldn’t be arsed with all that shite
What the heck did I just witness 😂 driver mods definitely needed 😅
They both need a driver mod BADLY
9:55 best reaction so far on the OG battles 😂😂
A hard watch. Would of been epic to see these cars get some solid runs in
All I wanted for Christmas was a couple of driver mods. Santa can kiss my ass! 😂
Best thing about Sundays is this! Let’s goooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Neither of them could handle their cars
See how the second drag race the VXR was spinning sitting next to the RS? RS is a local car and I’ve personally seen it/been in 400bhp cars that comfortably push it around, unfortunately a lot of money but just ain’t fast, never has been guys had the car for 10 years +
Max Power if it existed in 2024.
I miss max power!
This video would 100% been better posted on april 1st.
That was seriously so hard to watch.
They both need more seat time though because the shifting is terrible but shoutout to both of their cars and to them for being a part of this.
This are probably the 2 worst driver on OG battles , My head hurt watching it.
Wtf not 1 idiot but 2 idiots who can't shift painful watch but Jamie smashing it as per 👊🏼
Some of the worst shifting ever seen on the channel
Now that's how u custom a vauxhalls looks, just outstanding👌🏾
the Astra driver loves to stay in the limiter wasting time
I can’t choose..sick machines
Wish we got some clean runs though
My favourite day of the week… AN OG SUNDAY!!!
The lack of ability to do basic gear changes is shocking by these two, all the gear no idea comes to mind.
Sounds like fighting the taliban 😮
One of the hardest races to watch. I miss manual races with drivers like Affi and the dude with the white STI (22B maybe?). Also, how tf, you pushing 600hp and only running on 225s? 🤷🏽♂️
team vauxhall i believe if he had no issues with the gears he was gonna eat that volvo up opps ford i mean
Man like ricky llf in his vxr 😂top fellas 💙
What did I just watch.....
Both mans rowin them manuals, no judgement, holding handfuls of monsters!
Both sound like a bag of nails.
Big up Vauxhall vxr crew, deya 💯💥💥💫 my favourite.
As sick as it sounds to hit your limiter you are losing valuable speed and time down the strip, shift it soon as it hits the limiter lads. As always great video Mr OG ❤
They're wheel spinning, if they change gear before the car grips they'll just bog down. Watch all the big power FWD cars that's how they're driven.
@ there is that as well 👌🏽.
I love sound on focus 5 cylinder
Train lengths is a good description because these two cars and drivers are a train wreck
How annoying watching these two granny shift their cars 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Awesome drop Jamie! 🙌👏✌️
I feel a bit sad for the gearboxes though 😂
I'd have the RS any day of the week
These cars needs a rematch
the astra guy doesnt know the meaning of side by side
I cant get enough Motorcycle vs Car content. (I just came from the busa vs porsche vs h2 video)
I just love it. I would REALLY love to see the crighton cr700w someday maybe here in one of your races....
I know it's rare but that would be an absolute beast
Z20 is best sounding 4 cylinder hands down🔥🔥
K20
😂😂😂😂🤦♂️ K20 the world‼️
@@BozeMili k20 screams and is tinny its not as aggressive as the vxr
haha astra is garbage, same as the driver.
@liamburke8225 like ur breathe also