Tauros Is S Tier in Competitive but What About a Speedrun? | Pokemon Yellow Solo Challenge
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Mess with the bull, you get the horns. What happens when S tier competitive Pokemon Tauros tries its hand an a Yellow speedrun?
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I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Giovanni didn't care about the Master Ball - he took over Silph for those sweet, sweet Guard Spec.
He was brokering a deal. That's why he left so easy, the deal was done.
This was a fun run to watch. I am honestly surprised that Tauros did so well with the hard start he had.
It’s got a lot of things going for it, assuming you can just make it to the SS Anne without tanking the run. It was a fun one to figure out!
Tauros is interesting because on the one hand he shows how what matters in competitive isn't *all* that matters in solo runs, but on the other he shows that some of it still matters a lot. Give basically anything else the slow level-up group and tackle until 21 and it'd do a lot worse than the second page.
It’s a brutal start for such a good Pokémon and you never want to have to level pre-Brock on anything if you want competitive times but it did well all things considered.
Real one. Love the vanilla content but your cross gen runs are my favorite.
I might be biased but I like all my content lol.
Been a while since I've seen a good ol' fashioned tackle-only challenge :D
Good to see ya! Yea, it's an atrocious start to an otherwise decent pokemon.
Prediction: Tauros is gonna do... okayish. It's in the slow levelup group and has nothing against Brock since it has only tackle and cannot dodge bides from Onix until level 28 (not that I think Tauros needs level 28).
And because of the slow levelling group, the Jr. Blackout training will be hell. After that, it'll likely curbstomp the game with bodyslam, but that initial Brock split will be absolutely crippling.
Pretty solid preliminary look. Even if this thing got Leer at lvl 1 with Tackle, you'd see a much improved run.
Excited to see how Tauros does! I've been waiting for this one.
Yea I had it wrote up a while. Back in January when I did a Scott stream I was under the impression we'd be doing Tauros so I had it all made up since then so that's why the actual background and the 'big fight transistion' has different backgrounds because this one kind of sucked and I got a much better 'normal prairie' bg to use since then.
The three tailed Texas Longhorn, Brother!
You know it!
Tombstoner Brother!
OH YEA!
The Slow level up group and atrocious level-up moveset really hurt Tauros' time. Given that you normally only get Tauros in the Safari Zone, it's not surprising (although there's really no excuse for it, we all know how baffling some of the early gen level-up movesets were) there's such a big gap between its first and second move.
Yea, its interesting to see how it plays out but there's strange bias to it all. Some pokemon need to wait 20-30 levels to even get a move, others just start with Pyschic despite there being no way to even get that Pokemon lower than 70.
some reason they took you off my subscribed list. Well back at it.
Who knows what UA-cam does these days. Glad you caught it!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 i was honestly wondering why I haven't seen your videos. Keep itnp
When the Pokemon tcg world map music kicks in 😤👌
Oh yea, gotta put in like 4/5 tracks per video. Love the music!
Holy crap, I'm SO close to that 24 month badge. Go, Matt, go!
Appreciate that a lot!! The support feels good!
Tauros is one these Pokémon that sounds good on paper ,but it needs to face a lot problems in a run. While being a strong normal type with a more than decent special,it has no moves for Brock and the slow growth rate,and level up learnset is not that great, especially not for the early game.😊 But surprisingly enough it had some great luck ,having no resets in this run, which is always nice to have.
Managing experience while trying to do that as fast as possible is always like a work of art. Keep it up!😊
Tauros just embodies how a the majority of Pokemon feel to play lol. Brock really is the worst gym leader in the game and without him in the way you'd see a much different final tier list for sure.
Saw your videos on my suggestions while watching Scott's stuff, so decided it was about time to take a gander. So you know, gonna subscribe and now after this video go aaaaaall the way back to your older videos and start from there to catch up.
Nice. I've already replied to your other comments because this is my 'comment reply hour' but glad you found it! It's sad Scott doesn't promote his race videos more lol. I won his Smeargle race and should have won the Parasect one and it sucks to stay under the radar!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Yeah, I did watch those races and the insane effort it takes to get those done is enough of a reason to mention them more often. I suppose the Porygon one got mentioned again recently, but still, it is a good opportunity to check other folks content too.
And yeah, I do remember the Parasect one coming down to RNG luck, with the worst case scenario leading to a reset.
Either way, here is hoping YT fixes its stupid algorithm and suggests your videos to more people. Even with me mostly watching Pokémon content, it keeps suggesting me garbage that has nothing to do with the things I am interested on.
@@PraefMace For sure! I find that Scott does his own thing and generally latches on to one person he likes for a while before moving on. It was Vanman forever, then Squidgy, and now it seems like its Snowy but at this juncture in my life, I really don't keep up with Pokemon content too much outside of what I do but even this is a very small portion of my life.
“When our make it to your early 30s, every option in front of you is hard to take on.” Ain’t that the truth lmao
As a dad taking on life as well as another degree at university, I could use a few rare candies myself.
Tauros bull ying with its slow growth rate ! Good run brother
Yea! Pretty solid considering only using tackle until the end of Nugget Bridge.
Gotta say GLM, this playthrough..its a load of bull 😂👌😁😎
Saw the video pop up! Me and my little goon went and grabbed a sodie pop and enjoyed the run. My daughter said congrats on becoming a dad duuuuuuuude! (She literally said duuuuuuuuude 🤣)
As always homie great run, keep up the good work and look forward to next time 🏆
Ha, that's sweet. We are 4 months in at this point!
The Tauros enjoyers out there should probably play it in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Getting Horn Attack at level 8 should make a big difference.
I debated on adding FR/LG to my repertoire last year but ultimately decided Emerald is the better experience. I bet you could save a lot of time with an early horn attack considering you use Tackle all the way to the SS Anne.
TM 28 being dig, but changed to Leech life later is funny.
Yea, dig got stabbed in the gut and got left to bleed out lol. The gen 1 to gen 2 change makes you scratch your head. They did not want it to be powerful.
Got that sody-beer cracked and im buckled in till the end brother. God bless and keep these gems coming.
Hope you enjoyed and thanks for the kind words!
you forgot rival 1.1 would have saved you some caterpie fighs
I didn’t forget, it’s just a pretty bad fight. The walking time, low experience, and risk of things like growl/sand attack make it a pretty bad fight. Doing the Diglett just one extra time gives and equivalent amount of experience.
My original safari struggle pokemon. I remember doing soooo many safari runs to get this pokemon, kangaskhan and chancey.
God. Catching Chansey was a nightmare lol.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 yes, Chansey was the absolute worst. The frustration as a kid was on another level 😂
Love that sodie pop animation
It's bulging from all the sodie in it!
You know what they say, mess with the bull…
You get the bull..sh.
~7:26 -- was wondering out loud of the run would be faster to this point if skipping Brock were permitted (cheating/extreme gliches, etc...), but then remembered that lack of an answer to Rival 2 would STILL probably require all that extra grinding even if you could walk arround "Brock's looking for challangers" kid (you can via abuse of expanded inventory, or flag twiddling via GameHook or the like)
It’s likely to save time but per rule 3 in the description, no skips or exploits are allowed and there aren’t any exceptions to that outside of the badge boost glitch. Not even the pokedoll skip in Pokémon Tower is allowed.
Finally, Tauros, after years of asking!🔥🔥🔥
Blizzard is for lance n the rival exeggutor
Also useful on agathas golbat
Right on it! Outside of Golbat.
Tombstoner brother!!
Hell yea, brother.
i think tauros will struggle heavily on early game (especially with brock) but will be great in the late game with powerful tms and stab body slam and or double edge. excited to see this one! Edit: i think that blizzard is for dragonite or maybe exeggutor. i dont think an ice beam from taurous would ohko dragonite considering its special is mediocre.
Ayy, that’s good analysis. Spot on with Dragonite and Eggy. It’s kind sad it can’t one shot Dragonite with ice beam but that’s where the run is at lol.
Incoming slow Brock split then decent midgame once you hit Surge / Celedon for coverage with maybe a slowdown in Rock Tunnel versus the Selfdestruct Hiker. Solid lategame / finish but not too high ranking, say low A to B tier
You were right on the money, brother!
Tomb stoner brotha!!
I'll drink to that!
Always love your videos hoss
Glad you like it! Or love I should say.
STAB body slam
Shame that start is so sad lol
There's definitely worse but it picks up nicely. Gotta run them all but it was almost A tier!
11:30 just like hitting early 30’s in real life 👀 haha
Ha, 30s are prime time in life!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 all down hill from 40 though apparently 🤷♂️
Age is only a number! I'm inching close to 37, have way too much on my plate atm, but still feel the best I've ever felt in my life.
Runs like this make me realise that a single early ghastly would actually be complete death for a LOT of pokemon. Also, night shade works on normal types in gen 1? Does lick also work?
Night Shade/Seismic Toss/etc ignore type resistances in gen 1 but Lick would not be able to hit. If there was an early Gastly, this game would not be fun for most Pokemon lol.
Would importing Tauros from G/S/C back to Yellow give it a huge shot in the arm? :o
If by huge you mean having tail whip lol. It might save a little time but not worth the time investment for me to find out lol.
Sup Matt, sorry it’s not a sodie pop today, it’s too close to beer-o-clock
I'll take what I can get!
16:40 *TOMBSTONER, BROTHER!!!!!*
Oh yea!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987yessir!
And of course blizzard for lance... the liar with the flyers
Forgot about the eggs! The single biggest time waster in the game.
So now im curious how would a gen 7 Tauros perfrom. You get horn attack at lvl 8 and at lvl 29 you get the setup move workup to increase special and attack by 1 stage. Though you could do gen 8 or higher and get workup at lvl 5 but horn attack at lvl 20 will be too late since tm body slam is pretty much at the same time.
Yea even the gen 3 set lets you get Horn Attack early but I'm not sure how they'd do. Its special isn't the best so the water one might struggle a little. Fighting and Fire are also notoriously weaker typings so I wouldn't expect much. Better than vanilla Tauros? For sure. Better than most of the other cross gen runs? Unlikely.
Having a soda pop while watching 🥤
Nice.
Return of the king
Ha, I've been on a biweekly schedule for a long time without missing a drop!
Yeah, something to listen to tonight at work!
Nice. Enjoy!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I did my part and listened to it as i worked overnight. Tauros isnt too zesty for speedrunning
Better than most but definitely could be better lol. I'd argue it's impressive to almost hit A tier despite using tackle until the SS Anne. That's my takeaway!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 yeah for sure, cant wait for the next video
I akways liked Giovannis Yellow team.
Granted, in actual gamplay, its not scary.
But imagine being that ten year old kid, and this gang boss is a Rhydon, Nidoking, and Nidoqueen flanking him like a big bas boss.
For sure. I wish he kept the Kangaskhan! I know he never has it in Yellow but in R/B it’s gone after Silph and it’s a good compliment.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 right?! Granted it doesn't fit the team element like Dugtrio, but the look.. those four monsters, and him just petting his cat, who has one of the more broken STAB moves in Slash?? Missed opportunity
Wake up babe, Matt just uploaded a new video
That's what I like to hear!
Oh SNAP! Matt is back
Lmao, I’ve been posting a video at the same time biweekly for about a year now.
That's what I'm talking about 😉
Aren't we all!
why not use earthquake against the poison types? venonat/moth, and the nidos?
nm abt veno, forgot bug resists stuff (cos its traaash lol
Wonder how much better Tauros would be if It started with body slam and/or hyper beam? 😊
A lot better even though Brock still resists it but you could say that about any Pokemon. What if they started with [best STAB move available]?
If only they started with [super effective Brock move] they would be good is so many Poke's
You do make some good points! It was fun to watch. Like all of your runs. 😊
What's the song playing at the beginning of the video named?
It's Dudley's SF2 theme!
Is there a better soundtrack than Street Fighter 3rd strike?
There's some solid ones but its up there for sure.
Real one
Appreciate it!
I ❤ your videos
Appreciate it!
Tauros looks good on paper but man it is only ok-ish in a run. I wonder if the paldean forms would be straight downgrades? Fighting isn’t great in gen 1 plus Fire and Water are both special.
Someone else asked about it and I said the same. Water is pretty good but the special leaves a little to be desired and Fighting/Fire just aren't ever too great. I'd say they'd definitely improve over vanilla Tauros off of moveset alone but not be anything crazy. Hell, even a gen 3 learnset Tauros would greatly improve over this one.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 That makes sense, although even the water one would probably just be worse than poliwrath. I had to look twice at the gen 3 learn set because the moves didn’t look obviously stronger but no, it’s the levels it learns them lol
Horn Attack at 8 alone would push this thing up like 3-5 points. Remember it uses Tackle for like a quarter of its run time.
@@GymLeaderMatt1987Nearly double the power and 100% accurate, no kidding. The Gen 1 move sets for Pokémon you catch later in the game really show the developers had no idea they were ever going to make another one lol
Hey Matt! How's life with the baby going?
Going great! Over 4 months in now!
@@GymLeaderMatt1987 that's really great
Happy for you man
Also something definitely up with your mic, sounds like you shaking tambourine when you talk lol. New mic?
Same setup as always! I can’t say I heard anything resembling a loud shaking musical instrument on my proofing though.
Is Taurus a tombstoner brother though?
Definitely not.
That bull is a buzz killer then
this was a lucky run
I think I avoided maybe 1 reset but I wouldn't say much luck was involved.
Algorithm comment❤
Didn't finish the video yet, but I wanted to mention a possible speed up before I forget.
I forget if I told you or not, I definitely told Scott recently. An idea to do infinite blackout grinding. This isn't needed for most pokemon, only the truly bad ones like Abra or Magikarp (which can't even beat the game). The idea for this video would be to do 2 blackouts normally with Tauros. Then for the third, grind in the forest until Tackle is depleted. Stuggle train until your HP is very low ((Diglet's HP divided by 2) + a few) then go to Brock's gym. Defeat the Diglet and then kill the Sandshrew. The idea is to be knocked out by recoil when the Sandshrew dies so you lose the battle and Lightyears guy is still there.
For Tauros I'm not sure how much struggle training you had to do, you'd probably only need to do this once. But that's an extra Diglet's worth of experience. Not much for this run, but if you ever do Abra, I'd imagine it saves a ton of time (infinite trainer Diglets). And for Abra, once you ran out of potions, you'd have to go to the Pokemon Center anyway to heal, so you might as well knock out a Diglet.
Struggle recoil is a percent of damage dealt unlike later gens so I don't think it's infinite training, you'll still reach a point when you start to do too much damage even with struggle. Or maybe I misunderstood what you're saying
@@ritwikism I've never done it personally, I just watch videos. I was under the impression that it was a 1/2 of the damage dealt, not a percentage. Well, regardless, you can still do a decent amount like this. But yeah, you were understanding correctly.
I suppose some runs could try it. This run specifically was only in struggle strats for like 3 battles before it was ready for Brock so it wouldn’t benefit much. It would be hard to quantify exactly what it would take for it to break ahead and if you need a ton of levels, you’d need to really test the recoil damage vs the Diglett to be sure it’s quick or not risky because at a certain point, you will just win or it will be too tight to get the precise hp range to survive recoil on Diglett and have the Sandshrew win.
It’s an interesting idea but my worries is that it’s too situational, has to be on a bad Pokémon, and the gains might be so marginal it’s not worth the micromanaging.
Maybe for someone like Scott that can do 30 runs and get paid for it but for a dad just doing it during the extremely limited time I have, I’m not 100% sold.
Early viewer! ❤️
Nice!
bro why'd you take the fallout shelter playlist down? That was the best
The short answer is that it's a 9 year old game that stopped receiving significant updates 8 years ago and I just moved on with life. That's a long period of time, brother.
But why keep leaving the same comment? I just can't fathom clicking on a Pokemon video to ask about some decade old videos that no longer exist.
Cause the series was so good. I didn’t mean to keep playing it. I meant to ask why the videos aren’t up anymore. I didn’t know I left the same comment twice. My bad. By far my favorite best fallout shelter playthrough I’ve seen on yt
@@GymLeaderMatt1987I understand tho
That nickname 😂🤣
The only fitting nickname.