33:33 it is insane that ticket just refuses to be wrong, you can literally watch the assists tyus jones had first half and see they are in transition or without vanderbilt on him. And he had 6 points, so how did Vando get picked apart?
I'm not gonna lie... Ticket saying Giannis will be top 10 all time if he wins this season is almost as bad as Del saying KD is #3 all time. Then add on him being over Hakeem.. my lord 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
This was hilarious im not sure whats real or not but if bobby is 267 and Giannis is taller with more muscle why is it so hard for Dubs the others to believe he weighs more ... 😅😂😂 lool the things yall argue about is hilarious
This was the fattest L Ticket has taken. Man actually tried to play Hakeem, his rankings were all over the place, twerking for Giannis. All that talk on Lebron and it was Hakeem that was his undoing 😂
Giannis is the only player from this era that ticket meat rides this hard. He doesn’t keep the same logic about giannis and how it’s easy to score and no defense and the bigs are bad. But for jokic he only gets off cause the bigs are ass
Ticket went against everything he hates. The samething Chill does for LeBron, Ticket did for Giannis. Giannis isn't 270 lbs and, Marz cooked him on his own logic that this era is weak so it's easier for Giannis to score. He's not better than Hakeem, get outta here with the overreaction.
I agree with ticket most on Kobe takes but my boy got cooked on this take GA is no where the level of player as Hakeem but Low contradicting is no better because he picks and choose whether he want to go off resume or skills.
Whether or not Giannis surpasses Hakeem is gonna be based on winning. The numbers will probably always be in Hakeem's favor so Giannis gotta separate himself by leading his team to championships
The refs bailed out the grizzlies with those 2 fouls called for Bane with like 3 min left. Lakers cut the lead to like 6 points and the grizzlies couldn’t get anything going on offense until they called those 2 weak fouls on back to back plays. The lakers gotta play better from the jump tho, they start out way to cold.
2:44:01 i don't get Low's point. He said elite play for a decade is harder than winning a chip but then to evidence this he says afetr Ralph Samson got hurt it took years for Hakeem to get back to "that point" becuase of the team he was on. I'm assuming "that point" means finals/winning the finals. His example makes it seem winning a chip is the most unlikely because of your team, because inspite of his team, he was racking up years of elite play, which is what he rates about Hakeem. Sounds to me Hakeem is gets more bonus points for sticking it out and winning chips with unlikely odds than simply playing at an elite level. But tbf they go hand-in-hand.
His point was, if you’re on the right team at the right time winning a championship gets increasingly easier than sustaining being elite for over a decade. Patrick mccaw won 2 rings with the warriors and then went to the raptors. And because of injuries the warriors faced won another. That is much easier than for mccaw to do than for him to have a 10 year career let alone be elite for those years. Like what’s was easier, lebron winning 2 rings in Miami or lebron being elite for like 15 years
@@taquaywhite4503 I get what he said but his example was more indicative of how difficult it is to win a chip, he praised Hakeem's ability to stay elite to "get back to that point" which would be competing for the win in the finals. To make his point he wouldn't have included getting back to and winning the finals, it would be irrelevant.
@@taquaywhite4503 He should've but the point would have no impact since we all know your ability to translate your game to winning basketball is the ultimate goal. It's the reason why despite Jordan Poole averaging like 29 when he starts, he's coming off the bench as his +/- and win ratio is far higher off the bench despite averaging less. Hakeem is rated so highly because of how well his game translates to winning basketball, as is every top 10. Imo ranking how well a player's game translates to winning basketball requiring less help should be in the top 3 of categories looked at for greatness, that along with peak and longevity. That just makes the most sense to me, which one you focus on the most would move rankings around a little.
@@JT-km6th I just agree that it’s harder to sustain excellence vs winning a ring. Just because you don’t win a chip doesn’t mean you were unable to sustain excellence.
Loooool Both sides were disingenuous in that Giannis talk. Ticket is hilariously rude And Low and Marz we’re condescending. Ticket was bogus for not acknowledging the space And marz low were bogus for acting like a giannis can’t be a roll man . And not acknowledging that u can’t gaurd him one on one. It got out of hand after that. Dub is just a hater
Nah you're just in your feelings. Marz has Giannis as the consistent best player in the world for 4 years. You feeling like these man are acting like Giannis came be a ROLE player is in your head. Like how a wife gets mad that the husband cheating in her dreams. Drop your balls
@@Christopher._M grant can not guard Giannis, the problem is he’s a flopper, so if Giannis tries to muscle him down he gets called for an offensive, if he played in the 90s where he could actually use his strength, along with zone defense being illegal, he’s one of the best players
The problem is the argument ticket was attempting to use, ticket was trying to say giannis would be a dominant post up player when his game currently lacks that aspect so we can’t assume he would just be better in the post. Giannis gets most of his buckets off coming downhill not from being in the post. And to say he’s just going to bully shaq, drob, Hakeem etc is just blatantly wrong and biased on the fact ticket wants Giannis to bend him over and put it in his ass. Just like people who assume Mj would develop a 3 today is absurd when he himself said he didn’t want to develop one.
The last year I’ve heard ticket talk about the 90s and how players aren’t nearly as physically and would struggle he just went against all that. And shaq saying I agree SO DO I buy tickets logic doesn’t that’s what there arguing
And your showing why your an idiot because Tillman going off has nothing to do with Jones. Ja being on the court creates better opportunities for other guys to get off because of the attention he attracts.
2:27:50 see this is that goofy shit. What the fuck does that even mean? Curry is a better PG than Kidd. What’s crazy is this shit only happens with point guards. You’ll never hear someone say some shit like “Hakeem is a better player, but Shaq is a better Center”
Why are they acting like the Giannis couldn’t be more physical in the 90s we’re slashing was predicated he wood be able to just bully people without it being an foul call stop the cap 😂
so one day ticket says there no defense today to shoot down another player like kd , harden , curry etc whej they score a lot but then brag on gianni’s scoring 31/12 to elevate gianni’s over a hakeem lmao smh. dude just cook himself he don’t know
I can't lie, ticket sounded like he needed some sleep here because he was talking some bs the whole time. Usually, he makes some good points or arguments, but he made absolutely no sense this episode
I think julius randle unconventional style throws mars off which is why u gotta get out there and hoop cus thwts why randle is as productive as he is…bruh was number 1 in high school a lottery and has beeb avg double doubles…game for game he is definitely better than draymond
@@MarzTalksSports his style of play has everything to do with basketball what yu mean champ lol. Like i said i think u think he isnt a skilled player and i disagree by saying he has an unconventional style of play.
The mental gymnastics that Ron, ticket, and shaq went through to defend Giannis that they refuse to do for any other player is sad
This ep feels like being in an alternate reality
Crossover episode
Better then the panel episodes they be having
One of the best episodes in a long tome
This one of the best player choice live streams man literally dying over here.
son marz face at 1:39:56 is killing me 😭😭😭😭😭😭 blud was dumbfounded by tickets response 😭
I ain’t never hear Ticket go against his opinions this much when arguing a player
1:30:12 “ I know you got that basketball reference on you, you keep it on you like the bible” boy ticket got the one liners 😂😂
That's not a one liner though lol
🤣
This was the nastiest, most disgusting episode of PC ever. I loved every second of it 😂😂😂
This Show Is Truly Legendary!!🔥🐐🐐
Lebron moved up from 6 to 5 just from this debate. I think we’re getting to Ticket🙌🏼
Yo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 when low started screaming “LISTEEEEEEEEEN” you know he’s about to COOK
Damn man ticket and Ron got put in the deep fryer the whole episode and Shaq ran from the fryer
Good to see Low Back!!!
Ron and Shaq agreeing with whatever Ticket said was hilarious.
Yea this stream would of kept me up all night 😂😂🔥🔥glad i waited
Bro this is the best stream ever. Like I was on the verge of tears half the episode
ticket has said that giannis would only be a 18-10 guy in the 90s 😭
Def one of my favorite episodes
Love this channel so much 😭😭
2:09:43 ticket love’s hypotheticals lmao. If, if was a fifth we’d all be drunk
This show was legendary
These reaction shows> Every other show on PC😂😂
Ticket that Giannis take was the nastiest take of 2023
This dude Ticket always do what ifs for Giannis and always change his logic for him.
1:55:25
Nah yo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 JANET JACKASS IS CRAZY .🤣🤣 ticket is the face of players choice
Marz and Ticket rivalry unmatched 😤
1:39:46. Nah Ticket ain't nobody gonna buy that. Somebody turn that into a clip.
Dub it’s a love hate relationship gang don’t take it to heart 😂💪🏾🔥
33:33 it is insane that ticket just refuses to be wrong, you can literally watch the assists tyus jones had first half and see they are in transition or without vanderbilt on him. And he had 6 points, so how did Vando get picked apart?
Amazing stream
I'm not gonna lie... Ticket saying Giannis will be top 10 all time if he wins this season is almost as bad as Del saying KD is #3 all time. Then add on him being over Hakeem.. my lord 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Nah it’s not 🤣 because kd is closer to 20 than he is to 3 and Giannis with another ring would be arguably top 15 so not far off
@@Hakeemthabeen888 exactly
@@Hakeemthabeen888 Kd is top 15 all-time
Actually Hakeem is not top 10
@@ChelloTheKilla ehhh
“I’m providing the facts ticket”
“Nah Nigga! U providing the CAP 🧢 “
😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
I can not believe what i was hearing
do u not sleep?
@@nahomyacob2476it’s around 10am-12 pm where tht brotha is rn
@@Hakeemthabeen888 It 8 a'clock in Uk right now
@@RMusingyea so Thts a reasonable time to be up
Hold on … this brotha was up the whole stream …. He’s a MENACE
You came in correct. Man will complain about recency bias in some aspects but be so quick to pack up Hakeem. Ridiculous.
7:50 low is CRAZY 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😭😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This was hilarious im not sure whats real or not but if bobby is 267 and Giannis is taller with more muscle why is it so hard for Dubs the others to believe he weighs more ... 😅😂😂 lool the things yall argue about is hilarious
I like mars energy doe…dont force it mars but that energy was valid
Lo cooked ticket at the beginning of the show.. chefs kiss
Ticket and them was getting COOKED FOR HOURS
woooooooooo shaq🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
They be hating. Giannis the Goat
Just because they pick Hakeem over him? 🤣
This was the fattest L Ticket has taken. Man actually tried to play Hakeem, his rankings were all over the place, twerking for Giannis. All that talk on Lebron and it was Hakeem that was his undoing 😂
Ticket sounded ridiculous this stream 🤦🏾♂️ I usually fw ticket too
Giannis is the only player from this era that ticket meat rides this hard. He doesn’t keep the same logic about giannis and how it’s easy to score and no defense and the bigs are bad. But for jokic he only gets off cause the bigs are ass
1:39:00 got my cryin 😭
top tier stream
W Low W Marz W Dub W Bob
💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
That giannis debate was one of the worst deepfries of all time for this channel 😭
This man said Dominique Wilkins over:
Julius Erving
John Havlicek
Rick Barry
Scottie pippen
KD
Wow
This is an all time level spanking being given to Ticket lmaoooooo. He fell on his face for 2 and a half hours lmaooo
This is normal, ticket gets cooked daily but for some reason people think he be cooking
@@taquaywhite4503 Cuz too many casuals don't know ball like Ticket... They just love his persona 😂
Ticket got cooked this episode 😭
Yo low you flagrant 😂don’t do that no more
Ja just needs to stick to running the offensive plays more and control tempo a lot better for team success
Hakeem played in 3 nba finals, won back to back to back title, 2x finals MVP dominated prime shaq
Ticket went against everything he hates. The samething Chill does for LeBron, Ticket did for Giannis. Giannis isn't 270 lbs and, Marz cooked him on his own logic that this era is weak so it's easier for Giannis to score. He's not better than Hakeem, get outta here with the overreaction.
I agree with ticket most on Kobe takes but my boy got cooked on this take GA is no where the level of player as Hakeem but Low contradicting is no better because he picks and choose whether he want to go off resume or skills.
W vid
I’m here
Whether or not Giannis surpasses Hakeem is gonna be based on winning. The numbers will probably always be in Hakeem's favor so Giannis gotta separate himself by leading his team to championships
Ticket never win an argument he just never stfu
Shit get annoying after a while when you want to hear somebody else’s POV🤦🏾♂️
It used to be entertaining but now it’s just annoying lol
Facts he do not be cooking
Yeah Low !!
Giannis in the 90s ppg 19
Am i a kings fan at default since the sacramento kings originated in cincinnati ohio an im from cinci, or is that bandwagoning
We’re happy to have you fam 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
2:26:41
They be hating on Giannis smh
Nah you just have no clue what you're saying. If hating on Giannis is saying he ain't better than Hakeem then you'd have to be stupid not to hate
How was that hate giannis isn’t on hakeem tier
He ain’t better than Hakeem
Yooo they are trippin! Hakeem is arguably the greatest post scorer of all time
The refs bailed out the grizzlies with those 2 fouls called for Bane with like 3 min left. Lakers cut the lead to like 6 points and the grizzlies couldn’t get anything going on offense until they called those 2 weak fouls on back to back plays. The lakers gotta play better from the jump tho, they start out way to cold.
2:44:01 i don't get Low's point. He said elite play for a decade is harder than winning a chip but then to evidence this he says afetr Ralph Samson got hurt it took years for Hakeem to get back to "that point" becuase of the team he was on. I'm assuming "that point" means finals/winning the finals. His example makes it seem winning a chip is the most unlikely because of your team, because inspite of his team, he was racking up years of elite play, which is what he rates about Hakeem.
Sounds to me Hakeem is gets more bonus points for sticking it out and winning chips with unlikely odds than simply playing at an elite level. But tbf they go hand-in-hand.
His point was, if you’re on the right team at the right time winning a championship gets increasingly easier than sustaining being elite for over a decade. Patrick mccaw won 2 rings with the warriors and then went to the raptors. And because of injuries the warriors faced won another. That is much easier than for mccaw to do than for him to have a 10 year career let alone be elite for those years.
Like what’s was easier, lebron winning 2 rings in Miami or lebron being elite for like 15 years
@@taquaywhite4503 I get what he said but his example was more indicative of how difficult it is to win a chip, he praised Hakeem's ability to stay elite to "get back to that point" which would be competing for the win in the finals.
To make his point he wouldn't have included getting back to and winning the finals, it would be irrelevant.
@@JT-km6th I see what you’re saying, he should’ve used like Patrick mccaw or like Robert horry who were never elite but won rings
@@taquaywhite4503 He should've but the point would have no impact since we all know your ability to translate your game to winning basketball is the ultimate goal. It's the reason why despite Jordan Poole averaging like 29 when he starts, he's coming off the bench as his +/- and win ratio is far higher off the bench despite averaging less.
Hakeem is rated so highly because of how well his game translates to winning basketball, as is every top 10. Imo ranking how well a player's game translates to winning basketball requiring less help should be in the top 3 of categories looked at for greatness, that along with peak and longevity.
That just makes the most sense to me, which one you focus on the most would move rankings around a little.
@@JT-km6th I just agree that it’s harder to sustain excellence vs winning a ring. Just because you don’t win a chip doesn’t mean you were unable to sustain excellence.
Loooool
Both sides were disingenuous in that Giannis talk.
Ticket is hilariously rude
And Low and Marz we’re condescending.
Ticket was bogus for not acknowledging the space
And marz low were bogus for acting like a giannis can’t be a roll man . And not acknowledging that u can’t gaurd him one on one.
It got out of hand after that.
Dub is just a hater
Nah you're just in your feelings. Marz has Giannis as the consistent best player in the world for 4 years.
You feeling like these man are acting like Giannis came be a ROLE player is in your head. Like how a wife gets mad that the husband cheating in her dreams. Drop your balls
It's like hearing teenagers in high school.
@@Christopher._M grant can not guard Giannis, the problem is he’s a flopper, so if Giannis tries to muscle him down he gets called for an offensive, if he played in the 90s where he could actually use his strength, along with zone defense being illegal, he’s one of the best players
The problem is the argument ticket was attempting to use, ticket was trying to say giannis would be a dominant post up player when his game currently lacks that aspect so we can’t assume he would just be better in the post. Giannis gets most of his buckets off coming downhill not from being in the post. And to say he’s just going to bully shaq, drob, Hakeem etc is just blatantly wrong and biased on the fact ticket wants Giannis to bend him over and put it in his ass.
Just like people who assume Mj would develop a 3 today is absurd when he himself said he didn’t want to develop one.
@@taquaywhite4503 Giannis wouldn’t bully shaq but shaq would not be able to guard giannis, he’s too agile
16:08 big ox is telling the truth
Giannis winning a ring puts him in the room with Steph and KD. Not hakeem.
Steph higher than Hakeem all time
@@mihawklifer7620 you don’t care about defence?
@@trevon444 depends on where both of yall have Magic
ticket gawkgawking for giannis
Hakeem won back to back ...giannis chooked after this😂😂😂😂
I could be the POTUS😭😭😭😭😭2:03:56
The last year I’ve heard ticket talk about the 90s and how players aren’t nearly as physically and would struggle he just went against all that. And shaq saying I agree SO DO I buy tickets logic doesn’t that’s what there arguing
42:30 and this is why people hate Dub. Clown just be talking like he knows something 😂
And your showing why your an idiot because Tillman going off has nothing to do with Jones. Ja being on the court creates better opportunities for other guys to get off because of the attention he attracts.
2:27:50 see this is that goofy shit. What the fuck does that even mean? Curry is a better PG than Kidd. What’s crazy is this shit only happens with point guards. You’ll never hear someone say some shit like “Hakeem is a better player, but Shaq is a better Center”
Barkley over curry 😃 that’s hilarious
Low Cooked Ticket So Wild
Damn ticket got cooked for being so inconsistent
1:52:35 Muscle is denser than fat 😂 Dub doesn't know what he’s talking about!
😂😂😂ticket cooking himself he's easy asf to debate 😂😂he just be saying shit
Quality of the show always goes down when GOAT JAMES gets on 😔🤢
3:05:43 ticket what…nah ticket 😭what kinda list ? IT at 11 nah
Bro IT not even better than Dwyane Wade bruh 😭😭
@@MegaKhalid121 chill IT all time is better than dwade my guy idk wtf you on
Why are they acting like the Giannis couldn’t be more physical in the 90s we’re slashing was predicated he wood be able to just bully people without it being an foul call stop the cap 😂
Is Giannis top 10 curry is top what top 6
Y’all gotta stop hating on Giannis lol but I don’t think Giannis clears Hakeem
SMH dream swept Shaq who is a bigger aggressive freak
so one day ticket says there no defense today to shoot down another player like kd , harden , curry etc whej they score a lot but then brag on gianni’s scoring 31/12 to elevate gianni’s over a hakeem lmao smh. dude just cook himself he don’t know
I can't lie, ticket sounded like he needed some sleep here because he was talking some bs the whole time. Usually, he makes some good points or arguments, but he made absolutely no sense this episode
2:26:37
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They had that man losing his mind
2:38:36 LMAOO
Ticket you overrating the hell out of Charles Barkley SMH
So Giannis can dominate the 90s but lebron can’t?
I’m sorry but ticket was not close to being right
I think julius randle unconventional style throws mars off which is why u gotta get out there and hoop cus thwts why randle is as productive as he is…bruh was number 1 in high school a lottery and has beeb avg double doubles…game for game he is definitely better than draymond
whats any of what u said gotta do w hooping? u just spoke ab double doubles thats basketball reference
@@MarzTalksSports his style of play has everything to do with basketball what yu mean champ lol. Like i said i think u think he isnt a skilled player and i disagree by saying he has an unconventional style of play.
@@newzay50 i never said he isnt skilled,u aint say notbin ab his style of play u spoke ab his production
@@MarzTalksSports bruv the first thing I said in the original post was HIS UNCONVENTIONAL STYLE OF PLAY
@@newzay50 anyone can say that thats not insight,u said i gotta get out there and hoop but all hooping got u was 'unconventional style of play'
55:30 imagine thinking that makes the 90s seem tougher lol. Need to get goons so they don't have good role players talking trash 😂 gtfoh
giannis is so overrated
Name the episode Giannis discovers per 36
Ticket got cooked lmaooooo