How to use ND Filters The EASY Way - DJI Mini 4 Pro
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Using ND Filters can be a daunting endeavor, but I'm here to simplify it all down for you, and make your footage even more cinematic!
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Hope you found this video helpful. Are you planning to use ND Filters on your mini 4 pro?
Also a note, the ND Labels on the polarised examples is mixed up, ND128 is the first example and ND128PL is the second example.
Happy Flying! 😀
@JustinBainbridge using filters for sure on Mini 4 Pro. I have a great teacher, named @JustinBainbridge 😃
Your videos are spot on and I am starting to learn from youre ND filter video. Not sure if using auto would also give the same affect as manual with motion blur and milky affects with water and do these affects only work with the higher ND's, hope you can advise me on this thanks
@Jakeydroney Hey! I'm glad you're finding my videos helpful! For ND filters I would always reccoment staying in manual camera settings. You will get a more consistent image and it makes sure that you are in full control of the camera. Yes for the milky water effect you need a very high strength ND filter and a long exposure image to get that look. It's more of a photo effect rather than a video effect in that case. 😃
Thank-you for replying to my questions and those tips will help me out big time! I haven't ever used manual in the 3 years Ive had drones 🤣 because I never knew how to, what a waste eh... of possibly better footage I could of taken but hey ho! I now have the Freewell megapack! So I best learn to put them to proper use! Oh no which one do I use first 🤣
@Jakeydroney No problem! I'm here to help. It's okay, everything in life has a learning curve. You can still get good footage in auto settings, but learning how to use all the manual settings will give you a better understanding of the drone and also better footage. Haha yeah there are a lot in the pack. If you need more help I just released this video on how to make your Mini 4 Pro more cinematic which I think will help you. There's also a free 7 day course to go with it and one of the days is dedicated to manual camera settings. ua-cam.com/video/EbvwG9tiR4c/v-deo.html feel free to check it out 😀
Been watching hundreds of videos on the mini4 pro and all of yours just give a better comprehensive understanding from the RC controller to ND lenses. Thanks
Thank you so much! I'm glad this video was useful for you! Happy New year 😁
I totally agree. I’ve watched all the mini 4 pro videos and as a beginner that started with the mini 2 SE and just recently got the M4P I need Simple directions and instructions. I’m not hip to all the tech talk yet😂. He breaks it down so easy to learn everything. My favorite drone channel for sure🤘
KUDOS for not getting bribed for positive review and paying for the stuff you will actually use and giving us your opinion! Thank you!
Definitely the best explanation of motion blur… most other videos breeze through it and leave you sort of unclear…
Thank you! I tried to do my best to explain it for all skill levels. Glad you found it useful 😁
The best explanation i see until now. Thanks
Thank you! Good luck with your Mini 4 Pro 😁
Very helpful video Justin, thanks. Enjoy your touring trip.
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful, plenty more on here that you'd find useful and plenty more to come! 😀
A great run through, easy to follow and very practical. Thanks!
You're very welcome! Thank you for the kind words and i hope you get the most out of your Mini 4 Pro and the ND Filters. Welcome to the Community 😀
Great vid. Nice and easy to understand. Thank you.
Thank you! Great explanation. Now to watch your other videos...
You're more than welcome! There's plenty to watch and plenty more to come 😁
Thanks for sharing your experience! Nice explanation and very easy to understand! You won my subscription, happy thanksgiving day !
Thank you for your kind words! I try my best to put across these things in a way that everyone can understand. Welcome to the community! Happy Thanksgiving 😁
Fast and to the point. Great job.
Thank you! 😁
Best explained and most honest video about ND filters. Respect and thank you
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found it useful 😃
Love the way you simple explane things thanks Greetz from Amsterdam Netherlands
Thank you! I'm glad you find the videos easy to follow 😃 Greetings 👋
A brilliant exposé of the use of ND filters . Justin has excellent teaching ability for somebody "on the learning curve" like myself ! Thank you, Sir !
Thank you! I'm more than happy to help 😄
Well done, thanks for the hard work to produce this tutorial.
No problem! I'm glad you found it useful 😁
The best explaniation I have seen - well done.
Thank you Mark 😁
Thank you for the great information. 👏👍
Very well explained and helpful, thanks
Thanks for your kind words. I'm more than happy to help! Hope you get awesome footage with the ND filters!
Thank you for the great information. I needed this.✌️
You're more than welcome! Hope you get that Conematic footage you're looking for! 😁
Great video, this is very helpful!
You're welcome! Always happy to help, hope you're enjoying the Mini 4 Pro! 😃
Thanks for the video, it was very useful information for me. I have the Freewell mega pack for the mini 4 pro and really didn't know how use half of them.
That's great! I'm glad you now have the knowledge you need to make the most of the filter pack! 😁
Great explanation and video. Thank you.
Thank you! I'm glad you found it helpful and enjoyed the video! You're more than welcome
Great video thanks man!
You're welcome man!
Great video, very informative and well made, as always.
Thank you Colin! I'm glad you got something from the video 😃
Great content! Thanks for sharing this!
Thank you! You're more than welcome! Good luck with your Mini 4 Pro! 😁
Thanks alot for this video... Really informative with spit on examples 🎉❤
You're very welcome! Always happy to help! 😃
Great video. Great information. Thanks!
Thank you! You're welcome! 😃
You explained this very well.
Thank you so much! 😁
Perfect brilliant thank you
You're welcome! 😃
Very well explained
Thank you! Glad you were able to get some value from the video! 😁
Your colour grade on your A cam ! I love it !
Thank you! 😁
What a great teacher, I subscribed
Thank you! I'm glad you found the video easy to follow and valuable 😃
New subscriber. Well done video, very informative. Thank you.
Glad you got some value out of the video! Welcome to the community! 😁
Great video and explanation! Liked and subbed 👍
Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful! Welcome to the community! 😁
Justin your video is very good! Well done 😄🔥👍
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Great video 👍
Love the video. Going to book mark it for future viewing. Next month I will be getting some ND filters.
Thank you! That's great, it'll be handy to watch again when you have filters in hand ready to go! 😁
Great video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 😀
Great Explanation, good job.
New Subscriber here. Off to watch more of your Mini 4 pro videos.
Keep it up
Thank you! I'm glad you found it useful. Welcome to the community and I hope you enjoy the other videos! 😀
Got the DJI Mini 4 Pro, 4 days ago. 2 days ago, had to send back. The battery in the drone, was VERY hot!. Connected to the drone, no GPS, no satellites! If you have problems with a new drone, within 15 days, you go on line and request a replacement. Hope it comes in 2 weeks or less. I would be a happy camper. I ordered the filters, hope they come soon, Thanks for making this video for us!
That's unlucky! Glad you've got a new one on the way. It's a fantastic machine when it's doing its thing. I'm excited for you to get it up and try it out! Good advice there for people for sure! You're more than welcome. I love sharing the knowledge so we can all get better drone shots 😁
thanks a lot !
Youre more than welcome! 😃
Thank you very much for the well made and informative video. One of the best I have seen when it comes to explain the main purpose of ND filters, motion blur. Do the Freewell filters introduce a noticeable colour cast ? Do you see the need of correcting for that in post ?
Hey! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful! I haven't found the ND filters to have any colour cast effect, I do however normally shoot in DLog M and colour grade in post so it's not something that would affect me much. But in my testing I didn't find and noticable colourcast 😃
This is very useful. You do very well, explaining. I see a UA-cam Silver plaque, in your future. Thank you Justin!
Thanks for the kind words, that means a lot! I do try to make it easy to understand and helpful for people! We were beginners at one point. Having good help is priceless. You're welcome mate! 😁
Great demo and understanding why use ND filters Justin. Many thanks for sharing the info
Thank you! You're more than welcome. Happy to share the knowledge! 😁
Great video! One point I would like to add is to power up the drone at location with no ND filter and see what the shutter speed is in AUTO mode. Then you can figure out how many stops it takes to get to the desired shutter speed (1/60). Hence the correct ND filter to use. One last point, the advertised ND strength (or optical density) on the filter may be off by 1/3 stops to a full stops (manufacturing issues). So you may have to go back and forth between filters depending on which brand you have. Freewells also have known color cast issue with certain ND filters. BTW, you got yourself a new sub.
Yes, very good point to add! Yeah the ND's do vary between manufacturers and even with the same manufacturers. I found most of the filters I've used in the past to be pretty colour neutral. But I always opt for high quality filters. That's the first thing the light hits before the sensor, right. So if we want good footage we need good glass. Welcome to the community 😁
Thanks
You're welcome! 😀
better explained than freewell himself!! they should pay you
Thank you so much! I do try to make things easy to understand! Haha maybe one day they will 😁
Great video, Justin, really well explained, thanks!
Just curious, the footage you show looks like the Flinders Ranges here in South Australia. Is it? If so, yes you definitely need NDs out there, it’s way bright!
Subscribed. 👍
You're more than welcome! Yes you're 100% right. I was working at Rawnsley Park Station for the last 8 months so had plenty of time to capture the ranges. It's incredibly bright out there haha. Welcome to the community! 😁
Ahoy, I've seen various videos on this topic. This one is easy to understand and shows the differences perfectly. Thank you, a thumbs up and in the hope of seeing more videos on the subject of drones, there is also a subscription. Thanks!
Ahoy! You're more than welcome. I'm happy you were able to get the intended value from this video. There's a lot more to come, so stay tuned and welcome to the community! 😁
Hello Justin just came over to your Chanel, excellent content. Have to say, looks like the Flinders ranges and I also recognise those flipping flies, hahahaha
Hey! Haha yep it's the Flinders...haha you've met them before 😂 they're a menace!
Very helpful, thanks! I appreciated the direct comparison at the end.
But now I am asking myself: In this pack i would have to decide between the UV or ND Filters right? So I couldnt get the lower shutter speed and UV filter at the same time. I guess that would mean the UV filter is best applied to shots where I have no motion, like a far distance shot? Probably those are the shots where the UV filter is most useful too?
Hey! You got it pretty much right. The UV helps with large landscapes where you won't be close enough to anything for motion blur to be much of a concern. You could also use a polarised ND filter and get similar results. The polarisation also helps to give the colours a boost and increase contrast. So you could use one of those and still get the correct shutter speed. Let me know if this makes sense? 😃
One of the best explanations videos I ever watch on youtube. If you dont mind, can you make a more video about ISO, exposure and shutter speed. Btw, you are SUBSCRIBED!!!
Thank you! I'm glad you got everything from the video that I had hoped! I will be making a video on drone camera fundamentals so stay tuned for that one! 😃
@JustinBainbridgeYT when will that post? Been looking for a video like this to show and tell how each filter works and looks with real world examples. Brevity is king. ; )
@@daveinmontana77 Hey! I'm working on filming the camera fundamentals one this week. So it should be up within the next 2 weeks 😀
Thanks, clear explanations. 1 question, are the changes you make on the controller saved forthe next fly or are they going back to "default" every time you switch it on?
Your manual setting will be saved when you power off the controller so you dont have to reset each time 😀
Thanks for this very interesting. To choose the right number of nb filter should I be trying to get the exposure to round about 0.0?
Hey! Yes, this is a good way of tuning your exposure with ND filters. In some situations, you would want an EV to be more or less than 0, but it'll get you pretty close. 😁
I like this video a lot, but I have one question unanswered. In your test, you manually set the desired shutter speed, then try on different ND:s to see which one gives a correct exposure and looks best.
My question is: If I wanted to use Auto mode, and since the camera will strive for correct exposure when in Auto, couldn't I just do it the other way around, trying different ND:s until I find one which gives me the shutter speed I'm looking for?
I hope this question makes sense.
Thanks again for a very infornative video ❤
Hey! You could do it this way, however leaving it auto still means that the camera settings will change as you fly. It might show the correct shutter speed for a moment or 2 but the camera is always tweaking the settings in auto. It makes more sense to lock things in manual and then select the ND which gives the correct exposure. Its easy to see just by holding the filter infront of the lens if its the right one or not. After a few days filming you'll get a good sense for which ND will be needed for that flight too. Hope this helps 😀
I will use your link, for the filters next month. I'm broke rest of this month.
It's not an affiliate link, but thank you for the support! Hope you enjoy the filters when you get them! 😁
@@JustinBainbridgeYT I'm sure I will.
Echoing all other comments by saying that this is the best and most direct comparison of ND filters. The others either go into too much detail, not enough or do not express the comparision and reason why. Good effort on the video.
Thank you so much! I did try to make this a one-stop video to understand ND filters and make it simple to understand for all 😁
Thanks dr bainstein
Hi,
How would you explain what's the difference between all day filter and bright day filter?
Which one I should get?
Hey! The all-day filters are standard ND filters, and the bright days are polarised ND filters. The all day will do for most people. The polarised filters will help reduce reflections but will need to be turned manually if you swap between horizontal and vertical otherwise you won't have proper polarisation. Polarised filters will also give you more contrast. For the majority of people, the all-day filters are easier to live with.
Hey mate have you seen the Freewell VND Filters? They cover 9 F stops using just 2 variable lenses. Seems to be a great way to save carrying a box of ND filters but is there a catch? Cheers from Tasmania, Australia.
Hey! I have just taken a look. They must be fairly new. Looks like a nice option like you said for just having a couple of filters to cover the whole range. I haven't used them myself but freewell know what they're doing with ND filters so I'm sure they'll be really nice.
Hi mate just came across your channel. I plan to use my mini 4 for aerials videos of city streets etc probably in cine mods with the camera pointing either directly down birds eye view or at an angle. Will I need an ND filter for this and also what will the best FPS setting be for this and overall manual settings? Thanks.
Hi mate, I would reccomend an ND filter for this especially if you're moving close by buildings other there are moving cars in the shot etc. I'd go for 4k 30fps, shutter speed 1/60, ISO 100. And which ever strength of ND is needed on the day 😁
@@JustinBainbridgeYT Thank you, I ended up going with the all day 6 pack.
@smeshfactory3992 that sounds like the perfect pack for you! Good luck capturing the footage you want! 😁
Once you've attached the correct ND filter to match shutter speed do you ever set shutter speed back to auto? So that it will mainly shoot at required shutter speed but will adjust slightly if needed? Sorry I don't own a drone yet so not fully familiar with the setup controls.
Nope, the main reason we're using an ND filter is so we can lock the shutter speed to maintain the 180° shutter rule. I would recommend leaving everything set at a locked value for the shots. If you need to have the drone do some brightness changes, you could put it into auto iso, but I would recommend leaving everything locked for the most cinematic footage. 😃
Great video. You re filming on Samsung right? Consider lowering saturation by a tiny bit.
Thank you! Yes, that's the one. Yeah the Samsung does tend to oversatyrate a bit, I do tend to go for a more contrasty look but this one was a little too much. Thanks for watching, and for the feedback 😁
Cheers for the episode, I have just got the Freewell filters for my mini 4 pro and now I’ll know what to do with them 🤞. I worked on and off at Rawnsley for over 6 years and it’s great to see the footage!! 🥰
@Msjacqui you're more than welcome! Wow really, haha I didn't think I would come across someone on YT that had worked here before. It's a beautiful area, that's for sure! 😁
Did you try to use a wide angle lens with a ND? Only with freewell it is possible
Hey, no, I haven't tried this. I personally prefer the look of the normal lens to the wide lens, so I just stick with that 😁
Hey Justin, just opened my new Mini 4 Pro. Is it worth getting a CPL when you can just get a ND PL? sorry, new to cameras
Hey! Cpl is useful for low light polarisation but they can be a bit finicky to get right. An NDPL would be a better bet as you're more likely to be battling reflections in brighter conditions 😁
@@JustinBainbridgeYTthank you!! Going on a big road trip soon which involves lots of driving on beaches so will have the drone active tracking the 4x4
What about still photography with filters?
Still get great benefits with still photography. Allows you to bring down the shutter which will give a much nicer image. Really high shutter speeds gives poor over sharpened images on the Mini 4 pro from my experience. Plus ND's allow you to do longer exposure imagines with motion blur. Hope this helps 😃
Those flies had a lot of motion blur. LOL
😂😂 they sure did haha, I'm glad to be away from them now 😂
Do you use a Nd 4 or ND8?
Generally im using ND64, ND128 or ND256. sometimes ND32 in the evenings
Watcha wanna bet that a future DJI drone (Mini 5 Pro?) will have the ability to rotate a built-in polarizer filter remotely, as the drone is being flown?
Maybe a future Mavic Pro series drone, I don't think we'll see it in a mini. But who knows 🤷♂️
Anti-clockwise.. what about uncle-clockwise?
I guess uncle must be doing something else 🤣
Are you available for a consultation call??
Hi Dane! For anything like this, please send me an email at Justinb.creator@gmail.com and we can discuss from there 😃
Why do we want natural motion blur? MB is the first setting you turn off on video games
Because we want out footage to look natural and cinematic. Turning off motion blur in games is the same reason why we don't want to run an ND filter on an FPV video transmission camera. When doing high intensity high presion work through a screen, you want the clearest, highest refresh, most crisp image possible. So your eyes can pick up on the smallest details when doing things first hand. But in the world of film and looking natural. Motion blur is essential. I like the question! Interesting stuff
I get fantastic footage with my Mini 4 Pro and I never put a filter on it and I will never do... People make a confusion of doing a movie for the cinema or doing a movie with your drone for pleasure, the same goes for the 24 fps for drones...
I appreciate the examples and I can tell what you’re talking about but at the same time I’m like meh… I don’t know if it makes that huge a difference to me. Maybe I’m odd? Do people really notice this that much?
Hey! I'm glad the examples showed the use of ND's well, and no, I don't think you're odd. The thing with motion blur is that it's almost a subconscious thing that we see. It's the difference between a good and great drone shot. I do agree to an extent that for some people, it's just not worth the effort. I will always use them as I just prefer the look to everything being sharp. But in some cases, having everything sharp is preferable. I don't think people notice much consciously, but they'll just feel that the footage looks more realistic 😁
People shouldn’t get too obsessed with motion blur and the rules that were designed for analog cameras. Sometimes crispy shots just look better. Such as filming straight down whilst panning a scene. Also you don’t need your stick with the 180 rule.. again, that’s an analog rule that doesn’t apply exactly to digital. You can fly in 30fps and still get some nice motion blur with 1/120 shutter without over blurring
Yep, this is also true and down to preference. I think using 1/120 shutter at 30fps looks good too. Especially when shooting FPV footage as the image can become too blurry otherwise. Sometimes a sharp image looks much nicer, but sometimes you need the motion blur to achieve the desired look. Thanks for the input. Nice points for thought there 😁
I hear ya. I used to not use filters. Now I won't not use them.. Also just knowing that I followed the rule psychologically makes what I capture seem to look that much better. I highly recommend using nds. U can tweak the shutter a little. But not much if u care about your quality.
Yep, no one cares beside us to motionblur 😂 and drone should be the faster and easy to operate , low baterry, movements etc , don’t care about exposure and shutter and simply auto mode :)
For those on a bit of a budget (blew most of our on the mini 4 pro) what ND filters or the other fancy ones like the polariztion lens would you say are the most needed? I do a lot of flights over the ocean living on Vancouver Island so the polarized one sounds pretty cool
Me: Hates motion blur, wish my vision and monitors didn't have it.
Human: How to add motion blur.
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I think you have value to add, but swotting bugs again...
Tell me about it! That's that Australian outback. I'm moving to a fresh location in a few days with less flies
Friend. We don't film. We video, shoot, produce, videoing. In most cases, it's unnecessary to state as it sounds repetitive. Obviously, we know what you are doing. Digital Video and film require different skill sets and gear. Digital Video and film Have different historical timelines covering 150 years. Great video! Know the difference, stand out, and be better at your craft.
Hello Justin Bainbridge @JustinBainbridgeYT just subscribed today after I unboxed my new DJI Mini 4 Pro - while charging everything I watched 8 of your videos and took some good notes - thanks for all the info. I have a few more videos to get through.
Hey! That's great to hear. Hopefully, you've got all the info you need to fly comfortably and get some great shots! Always happy to help, so I'm glad you're making the most out of the videos!