For one I don't care the WoT ads, and I don't need an explanation of how this works and 5 minutes of loading the gun. Just came in for what the title says. Not everyone is dumb as shit.
When you space out the metal sheets, its created a tougher shield then if they were all held together. spacing is actualy used in tanks sometimes for extra protection.
it's nothing like 4 inches of homogeneous steel plate. spaced plate will stop more than equivalent thickness of single plate. also flexible mounting increases the level of protection. 6 plates being an inch and a half I know damn well it would penetrate over 2 inches equivalent steel.
Agreed, the plate spacing essentially created a Whipple shield. One of the most efficient armor types in regards to weight of system vs. stopping power. Fun fact, Used by NASA to stop micro meteorites/objects traveling much faster than bullets. That being said 6 plate penetration is an amazing accomplishment.
Spaced and flex plates absorb more energy than an equivalent thickness of solid plate. The Lahti could penetrate 30mm of steel, equivalent to 6 1/4 inch plates.
You are right about the flexible mounting. If all 4 edges of the plates were encased in wood, they would have been more rigid. The way they were in the video, they acted as a shock absorber.
You were shooting the rounds technically at spaced armour. I wonder how many it would go through if they were put one after another with no space in between.
i think maybe 10...these rounds have so much power, even when the round shattered into pieces it penetrated the steel plate behind In different sources i have read, that the rounds penetrated 30mm steel at 100m (almost 1,2 inches).
@SwiftMooseBlz Maybe newer armor but i promise you that the armor that the ladi would be firing at had no air gaps assuming ww2 germany. the rolled homogeneous steel that germany used had no gaps. russia with as slaped together as their tanks were once again the armor was solid steel. modern day armor on things like a cheiftain yes but im sure its in a honeycomb formation. dont quote me on that the tech that the britts are using is "top secret". and the Americans use ceramic in their armor. im not sure in what fashion all i know is they do.
Actually, the spacing would increase the effective thickness of the material against a ballistic penetration by a small ammount. This is why spaced armour was used by early cold war tanks.
Keita Marislo It still will, side skirts are very thin as they are supposed to break or detonate shells before they reach the armor. Anti-tank guns have been historically shit against spaced armor, and that is why there’s also so much spaced armor everywhere on the PZ 4 H.
Yes it could have been 2 minutes but he has to gain something from going out of his way to record all of this and make it, stop complaining its not like you pay to watch anyway
Improper test for an AP rifle. You put space between each plate which allows the round to expand and lose momentum. (note each hole gets progressively bigger) Do the test again with the plates welded together and you very well then punch twice as far. I can assure you with the kinetic energy in that round it will not ricochet. The manner they are used is to shoot within the trackwell (wheelwell) of a tank where the armor is thinnest to kill the driver so it can then be routed by Infantrymen with antitank weapons as it's then a sitting duck. Not to kill the tank itself.
Too be fair most tanks have either explosive or non explosive reactive armour. so this is a pretty decent test , a real armour would let even less pass threw.
I don't think it has much effect coz no energy is lost due to air. And holes get bigger coz the impulse get shorter and hence velocity and therefore the impact will get enough time to get shared to all neighborhood atoms.
Ethan Jordan Yes. All that work for one round? He has all that steel & really nice jig, why not throw as many different rounds as possible at it? Right? Nice camera tho.
I was always wondering what is easier to penetrate: 10 thin steel plates set with small gaps, like in this video, or 1 thick plate of the equal thickness
With standard "black tip" .50 BMG AP ammunition, you're looking at about an inch of hardened steel (or four of those plates). With the spacing of the plates, it'd likely go through three and dent the fourth.
A lot of bullet energy was lost to metal plates flexing and dissipating the energy over the surface of every plate as the bullet passed through. I suspect it would have gone through a few more plates if they were bound together and non-moveable. The views from different angles and shutter speeds was pretty cool.
A trend I always see with UA-camrs is having the plates spaced apart. This causes the shell to react as if it were penetrating spaced armor. This causes problems for Ballistic Capped shells as after its first penetration the fuse is set off, making it explode before hitting the next plate, which doesn't show its full potential.
Where do you Buy a 20mm Anti Tank Rifle and WHERE THE HELL DO YOU BUY THE BULLETS FOR IT....???. Last time I checked my Local Wallmart was fresh out of Anti-Tank Rounds and I filed a complaint for lack of Product. Thanks. Captain America.
Actually, this is how you set steel plates when you want to minimize the penetration of the bullet. The arrangement has been in use with WW II tanks, they had steel plate skirts around the tank, separated from the surface. Next time, try with a solid block of steel!
ok... ur experiment is improper... ur shooting at spaced armor not armor thickness, ur experiment should be armor thickness, spaced armor is better at stopping rounds
and u arnt wearing proper PPE (personally protective equipment) how is this channel up if ur experiment is so inaccurate and ur so dangerous while doing so... just mind blown
TAKTİKSEL BİLGİ depends on the tanks armor not all tanks have ceremic composite armor. some light tanks have rolled homogeneous armor and steel plates as there main protection. :')
When you separate the sheets like that the perforation will be less effective, because every sheet it trespass deforms a little bit the bullet and if you consider the friction of every perforation causing the bullet to bend or incline a little bit increasing the contact area. You can see the last holes more large than the first ones. In this case it would be effective to use an special kind of bullet instead, in order to keep the perforation the effective possible. It could be titanium tip, or put the sheets all together and I think it will pierce more than separating it.
Because a thing called adverfuckingtisment is part of business and it happens to be that UA-cam is a great place to advertise. Most people don't even watch anything on tv but the news now.
I am working on a video of a Red Rider BB gun shooting through 1000 evenly spaced sheets of aluminum foil. After that, I plan on a video of shooting through 1000 evenly placed sheets of saran wrap. I am sure these videos will be as useful as this one, if any military vehicle is ever made like this. A 50 BMG and see how many prius's it will go through would be way funnier.
That gun looks like it has alot of mass, and the more mass of an object, the more kinetic energy required to induce motion. Between the size, the gas system, recoil springs and the muzzle break I bet that weapon has less recoil than a standard hunting rifle.
By loading it in to the magazine instead of the chamber, it reduces the velocity of the bolt by virtue of the fact that it has to strip a cartridge out of the magazine. Without that added resistence, the bolt travels faster than intended, which can either damage the bolt, or at worst can make the firing pin jump forward and unintentionally fire the round.
i have a question. lets say If that bullet penetrates 6 plates But what if you stick together those 6 plates? my question is will the bullet could penetrate the sticked 6 plates? and if yes would have more power to go for the 7th?
I think then it will penetrate more of them. WWI shield was build on that principle with gaps between 2 pieces which helped more than 1 solid. But sure a test would be great.
Spaced armor works best when the projectile's penetration ability is compromised by the first few plates so that, as in the test here, the ability to penetrate the later plates is degraded. This can be due to projectile damage, as here, spreading the area of impact wider and wider in each successive plate, or by deflecting the projectile on an oblique impact (using non-parallel plates perhaps) so that it hits the later plates at a higher angle, also increasing the hole size (more oval), or, also more effective at an oblique impact, causing the projectile to yaw or tumble due to inadequate spin stabilization, again making a bigger hole in the later plates. If none of that occurs, then parallel-plate spaced armor, as here, is usually significantly inferior to a solid plate of the same total thickness made up of the same steel and hardness hit at the same angle. Even laminated armor, where the thin plates are tightly pressed together by bolts or welding, would be better, though not by as much of an edge. We are talking about steel armor and pointed or oval-nosed AP projectiles that do not suffer complete shatter on an early plate's face (this is an extreme case of the progressive damage case). Against ceramic or multi=material composites (modern tank armor), things get much more complicated.
RAY RAY I meant that he should set up armor plates with different thicknesses and test the penetration. For example a sloped plate the thickness of the m4 sherman front armor. Etc
+White house gaming That would be epic. It's a shame, no one ever experiments with angled steel plates.. there are loads of videos with steel penetration tests but never at an angle!
The gun along with the slow mo camera footage made an incredible vid. I would certainly love to see this same setup with modern ammunition because as you said, moisture would most certainly get in and affect ignition. Even with the round that you managed to fire, I absolutely guarantee that its performance was hindered due to all the years between production and now
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Against modern .50 it would be about the same, it was only good against light armor. It worked against the original PZ II but any tanks after that it was fairly useless unless you could manage to shoot the treads and de-track it
+SilvaDreams They have almost the same muzzle velocity but the 20mm is far more heavy. A 20mm shot from this rifle would certainly be superior over a .50.
The service AP munition from the L-39 is about 3 times the energy of the 12.7x99 /.50 BMG. The bullet from the 50 BMG weighs between 600, and 700 grains, while that of the 20x138B weighs about 2,500 grs.
Arosankari What do you mean "does not try enough"? War Thunder tries to make it realistic by going off the tanks real stats. And they make you play smart by learning each tanks weakness to be able to successfully take them out. World of Tanks is honestly too arcade like for me, some tanks reload in 3 secs and their is a stupid health bar. But hey that's my opinion, you do you.
pay to win ??? that is only for premium vehicles and the premiums are not the best in their BR and the missiles aren't guided you have to manually steer them to their target which is a difficult task. also the game is well balanced i dont see why you say it isn't because you wont see a Tu-4 while you are flying in a F4U corsair but yes along time ago the game was unbalanced.
WT is "realistic" game. Thats true. You can be oneshoted by anybody and do the same to the other players, but when you meet a BOT tank, its nearly impossible to kill him because Gayjin said FU. And the game balance? Bitch, please, its even more russian bias than WOT.
I always heard that air spaces are game changers. That, a round that might go through 3 inches will be stopped by three 1-inch plates separated by spaces
maxwell zefanya you don't need one. it's a single shot rifle so you have to be 18 to own it. only catch is you can't fire any explosive rounds. that would require licensing.
Now I want to see it against a 1 1/2" plate , a 1 3/4" plate, and a 2" plate. It would be interesting to see if the gapping between the plates has an effect.
TheBackyardScientist to be frank, no. even WWII tanks had enough armor to stop these shells, late war tanks had an effective armor thickness hitting 300+ mm. modern tanks have armor made out of multiple layers of super hard ceramics which would easily break up then absorb the shell. also, if you are the real backyard scientist, i love your stuff
Keth Wintham thanks for the info, I guess you could score a lucky shot and maybe disable (not destroy) the tank or at least some of it's instruments. And when you say effective armor of 300 mm, do you mean tanks actually ride around with that much armor plating or it would be the equivalent of 300 mm of steel? I'm just thinking that would be so heavy. I know tanks use a sort of stand off armor plating that makes shaped charge is much less effective, and I guess it would function like a whipple shield for any small caliber round.
TheBackyardScientist you would need a proper source to inform you on all of this, but i will give you as much as i can here. no, they would not carry that much armor, but there are ways to make it act that thick without being that thick. one of the primary ways is through the sloping/angling of armor. when a plate is sloped, the projectile hitting it has several problems. one is that the armor now has a face that isnt perfectly perpendicular to the point of the projectile, increasing the initial surface area it has to break through, and also increases the chance that the point wont create the small dent in the steel needed to guide it in, making it likely to glance off or start spinning end over end (which makes for pretty poor armor penetration). another problem it makes for the projectile is that even though the armor may only be 100 mm thick, the projectile has to go through more than that, because it is traveling partially upward through the plate. but some tanks do carry actual meter thick or greater armor. a modern m1a2 abrams is around 70 tons combat loaded, and uses a jet style turbine engine to compensate. the problem came when HEAT shells were invented, because they could punch through thousands of mm effective steel armor. this was essentially the cause for the invention of advanced composite armor, which is used on essentially every modern tank. i dont think this gun could do any serious damage to a modern tank, except in very specific and incredibly rare circumstances. abrams cost upwards of a few million bucks a piece, if something this cheap could disable them, they wouldn't be used. i highly suggest you search youtube for some videos which explain it better than i can here on my phone (where it is very hard to collect my ideas, then present them well, including everything with no redundancy.) this description is far from perfect, and is missing some pretty major things.
Keth Wintham thanks Keth, that's a great primer for me to start looking stuff up to learn more! I've read about the turbine engine in the Abrams tank before, it's an outstanding piece of technology , and it was designed to run on virtually any fuel. This kind of stuff fascinates me, and in an alternate life I would probably be working for the military developing weapons at china lake ;)
TheBackyardScientist definitely. im still young enough to pursue a career in chemical engineering (for explosives.) or military robotics, and would totally love to do that. i have had some interesting ideas about caseless ammunition and how to re-create greek fire, and have a bit of an addiction to it myself. if only i had the money, materials, and space to experiment with these things. :'( XD
during WWII armor was a single thick piece of steel, depending on what part of the tank it would be cast or rolled armor, a general concept back then was that the hull was rolled armor the turret was cast. During the cold war as fin stabilized anti tank shells became more commonly used we started to use spaced armor to protect against the molten copper or other metals used that is injected into the vehicle upon contact, around the 1960s composite armoring started being invented, using materials like ceramics or quartz. More modern day vehicles like the abrams used ceramic armoring in their early 1980s variants, but upgrades in the 2000s gave them depleted uranium armor encased inside the steel plating and shells with the same material, depleted uranium was used in armor due to it's very dense structure, meaning more protection for the same amount of space and in ammo due to the weight making it a very good penetrator
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Ok. Not being a dick. Wouldn't the accuracy of actual armor penetration be better shown with solid pieces of steel? Because the gaps between (I would imagine) would give problems to the ballistics.
my deceased friend Bob Ardle bought a 55 caliber Lahti anti-tank gun and had it re-barreled for 50 caliber. It took the same magazine, and we shot it repeatedly. It was awesome!
Instead of showing us building the Plate holder and counting plates 67 times they coulda 1. Showed the cottage of the misfire 2. Shot the training ammo he mentioned not wanting to use because it’s just steel instead of tungsten. 3. Compare training VS AP penetration. 4. Shot another caliber like 50BMG or .338 (win mag, lapua mag, Norma mag whatever) or just 30-06/308 to compare the difference in penetration capabilities… ECT.
I feel it would penetrate more than that if it's were not spaced armor. Interestingly though the shot wasn't deflected. Starts off with a clean penetration and gradually switches to blasting through armor using sheer energy and making a bigger and bigger hole. The last sheet of metal that got penetrated must have been the one to absorb most of the energy since the round had lost it's penetrating shape and just punched through with kinetic energy leaving a huge hole. Pretty cool to watch and interesting.
I'm not sure what concerns me more: the amount of time and effort it must have taken to set up the steel plate rig, or the actual damage the gun was able to accomplish, which is impressive for the time period. The Finns have absolutely never played around when it comes to making firearms.
There is more to this video. This video captured the recoil of the weapon. Watch how the energy from the recoil travels down the gun into his shoulder and then watch how that energy transferred down his spine into his hips on back. The physic of the projectile from the trigger forward is expected and was amazing. Still I find the physics from the trigger back almost as fascinating. It was amazing how far the shooters body traveled. Amazing watching the energy traveling from the gun butt into his shoulder. The last hole on sheet 7 is cool as heck for me. What a good video.
4:15 first round fired 4:40 impact 6:00 examining plates
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Bless you, Cecil.
Got hit that algorithm for ads. ;)
it's actually impressive that he managed to make this over 10 minutes long
And you watched it.
That's what he would need for the ads
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I watched it at 1.75 speed
that's the sweet spot, over 10 mins for ad monetization
Shooting at 4:20
Result at 5:55
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Video begins at 4:10 and ends at 5:50, but is still 10 minutes+ lol
You saved me 6min of my life. Thanks
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Hell even that was dragged out.lol
Don't you see that this lead head must get money so he can repair his dangerously rusty rifle barrel?
Thank you so much
4:30 for anyone who doesn't want to waste their time on useless jabber.
For one I don't care the WoT ads, and I don't need an explanation of how this works and 5 minutes of loading the gun. Just came in for what the title says. Not everyone is dumb as shit.
Oh but there's still quite a bit of useless jabber after that point as well.
S a n d s why does he need to repeat himself twice? Kill me
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same here i skipped saw it make a hole saw him pick up the bullet boom done.
5:30. This guy is the definition of dragging out the length of videos.
Bob Marley gotta get the 10 mins huhu
10 minutes just to show something that only took 10 seconds to prove. Milking at its finest.
Above 10 minutes you can put more ads ;p
no shit sherlock
Bob Marley 10 minutes = more money
When you space out the metal sheets, its created a tougher shield then if they were all held together. spacing is actualy used in tanks sometimes for extra protection.
But they would have real armor underneath no tank would use several feet of real estate for a few inches of less effective armor
Justin Tuthill leopard2 front armour
@@JustinTuthill sad russian side armor noises
I was thinking the same thing. Plus i was thinking the plates not being held really tight by the wood blocks, would use much of the rounds energy.
I would thought the sheets being together would make it stronger
Now imagine this(20mm) but a bigger caliber(30mm) coming out of a aircraft at 6000 rounds per minute
@Atman Gotango Yeah, the 30mm casing is longer than the 20mm round all together.
+ the depleted uranium penetrator core
Not even a friggin tictac UFO would survive that.
and every round is filed with explosive.
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it's nothing like 4 inches of homogeneous steel plate. spaced plate will stop more than equivalent thickness of single plate. also flexible mounting increases the level of protection. 6 plates being an inch and a half I know damn well it would penetrate over 2 inches equivalent steel.
Thank you, I was about to point that out my self
Agreed, the plate spacing essentially created a Whipple shield. One of the most efficient armor types in regards to weight of system vs. stopping power. Fun fact, Used by NASA to stop micro meteorites/objects traveling much faster than bullets. That being said 6 plate penetration is an amazing accomplishment.
Yeah, this is a seriously flawed test.
Spaced and flex plates absorb more energy than an equivalent thickness of solid plate. The Lahti could penetrate 30mm of steel, equivalent to 6 1/4 inch plates.
You are right about the flexible mounting. If all 4 edges of the plates were encased in wood, they would have been more rigid. The way they were in the video, they acted as a shock absorber.
Calls a channel “full mag” only has one shot in a mag at the time
are you an idiot did you see the recoil
Clx Dvd I this it’s funny anyways
Well if u don't like it then DONT WATCH IT
Comments on a video, doesn’t stfu
@just some dude without moustache well, I guess who blows it - knows better
You were shooting the rounds technically at spaced armour. I wonder how many it would go through if they were put one after another with no space in between.
2/3 of them would be my guess. Hope he does more of these tests.
i think maybe 10...these rounds have so much power, even when the round shattered into pieces it penetrated the steel plate behind
In different sources i have read, that the rounds penetrated 30mm steel at 100m (almost 1,2 inches).
Knobster Knob I was wondering the same thing...
armor is done with air gaps. that's what makes it work.
@SwiftMooseBlz Maybe newer armor but i promise you that the armor that the ladi would be firing at had no air gaps assuming ww2 germany. the rolled homogeneous steel that germany used had no gaps. russia with as slaped together as their tanks were once again the armor was solid steel. modern day armor on things like a cheiftain yes but im sure its in a honeycomb formation. dont quote me on that the tech that the britts are using is "top secret". and the Americans use ceramic in their armor. im not sure in what fashion all i know is they do.
Waste of time, how would the enormous spacing between sheets simulate a real tank armor? Get a thicker plate or group some of them together.
Actually, the spacing would increase the effective thickness of the material against a ballistic penetration by a small ammount. This is why spaced armour was used by early cold war tanks.
@@Deus1929 Yeah but not with that thickness of sheets.
Deus yes but the AT rifle is not being used to demonstrate anything when you give like 2 inches between each sheet
Keita Marislo It still will, side skirts are very thin as they are supposed to break or detonate shells before they reach the armor. Anti-tank guns have been historically shit against spaced armor, and that is why there’s also so much spaced armor everywhere on the PZ 4 H.
Keita Marislo Check out the composite on a Leopard 2A6.
this could have been a 2 minute video
Kris N Ad revenueeeeee!
Yes it could have been 2 minutes but he has to gain something from going out of his way to record all of this and make it, stop complaining its not like you pay to watch anyway
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Thank you
@@jussieronen3707 what revenue
4:14 to the first shot :)
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So is the sound quality off a bit here, or are my headphones goin out..?
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Sound quality is dodgy
TechSmack for future people with the similar problem, like me, I didn't have to click away
Can you demo on something that would closely resemble the tank gun barrel to see if it does anything.
Improper test for an AP rifle. You put space between each plate which allows the round to expand and lose momentum. (note each hole gets progressively bigger) Do the test again with the plates welded together and you very well then punch twice as far. I can assure you with the kinetic energy in that round it will not ricochet. The manner they are used is to shoot within the trackwell (wheelwell) of a tank where the armor is thinnest to kill the driver so it can then be routed by Infantrymen with antitank weapons as it's then a sitting duck. Not to kill the tank itself.
@@awashburn6944 You know what spaced/composite armor is and why it's used extensively right?
Too be fair most tanks have either explosive or non explosive reactive armour. so this is a pretty decent test , a real armour would let even less pass threw.
I was about to comment the same
@@Dustinmaester the ACTUAL tanks have ERA or non-ERA armor, the WW2 tanks didn't, so this test is not the correct one for an AT-Gun maked in WW2
I don't think it has much effect coz no energy is lost due to air. And holes get bigger coz the impulse get shorter and hence velocity and therefore the impact will get enough time to get shared to all neighborhood atoms.
why space the plates when that was used it was made to pen thick solid armor
Agree!
Kevin Button the plates are mild steel anyway, not hardened armour plate like on a tank so you can't compare penetration between the two.
+SteelScooter. It would have given a better representation
+SteelScooter. + You see all the charge dissipated between the plates
not to mention the angle and all that wonderful jazz.
10 minute video for shooting the gun once, very underwhelmed 😡
CYBERARC 23 had to make it 10 min so he could get that ad revenue
well arent we entitled little shits today
Jop3lius shit I’m not hating a grind is a grind I enjoyed the video lol
@@ashton6478 was ment for the op
its a fucking anti tank gun
The slow motion camera shots are utterly beautiful. With the gas and smoke and the projectile cutting right down the center.. amazing.
If you don't like to wait till part 4:18
Thanks bro
My hero.
A lot of the video felt like filler so you could make it 10 minutes..
for sure
Ethan Jordan Yes. All that work for one round? He has all that steel & really nice jig, why not throw as many different rounds as possible at it? Right? Nice camera tho.
Ethan Jordan most drawn out video I have seen....
Ethan Jordan
Kind of like watching History or Discovery Channel.
Ethan Jordan yo bro Donnies at the range today 👬
I was always wondering what is easier to penetrate: 10 thin steel plates set with small gaps, like in this video, or 1 thick plate of the equal thickness
Professionally done, slow motion, music, camera angles, obviously a fan of firearms and knows his audience.😎
They are doing this because they dont have players, right? #WarThunder
yep also arent you ecxited for patch 1.65 as well as bomber cockpits?
Me. Crunchy I played it at 3 A.M.
Cars n' Bikes i cant wait to get home im a ps4 player i cant wait to see the inside of the arado or the lancaster maybe the b-18
i play wot blitz
+Saul Joshua Olamendi hopefully cause they want cool content!
can you do a comparision between 50 cal AP vs 20mm against 16 plate of steel
With standard "black tip" .50 BMG AP ammunition, you're looking at about an inch of hardened steel (or four of those plates). With the spacing of the plates, it'd likely go through three and dent the fourth.
think 50 cal black tip can go through atleast 6 plates of steel
Considering there's air between the plates the 50 cal would likely only go through the fist 2 and **maybe** the 3rd.
penetrating 1'' of steel is not the same as 4x 0.25'' plates though, or am i wrong ?
CWplayer Well given that they are spaced, there is a huge difference.
4:12 *to get to it!* that LOOKS like a 50 cal round not a 20mm
why was the bullet so dinky? because its an older tungsten round?
The round is surrounded by a ballistic cap for aerodynamics would be my guess,just like the 30.06 black tip.
A lot of bullet energy was lost to metal plates flexing and dissipating the energy over the surface of every plate as the bullet passed through. I suspect it would have gone through a few more plates if they were bound together and non-moveable. The views from different angles and shutter speeds was pretty cool.
A trend I always see with UA-camrs is having the plates spaced apart. This causes the shell to react as if it were penetrating spaced armor. This causes problems for Ballistic Capped shells as after its first penetration the fuse is set off, making it explode before hitting the next plate, which doesn't show its full potential.
No one is firing ballistic capped rounds
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The Power of Spaced Armor :D
Was intended for shaped charges
Is spaced armor more or less effective than having all plates stacked together?
Spaced is more effective.
only works on Shaped charge.
Naval Guns can punh deeper.
random turtle Its modular for MBTs
You guys have better camera work than some of the movies I've seen lately
Maybe you’ve been watching bootleggers
Where do you Buy a 20mm Anti Tank Rifle and WHERE THE HELL DO YOU BUY THE BULLETS FOR IT....???. Last time I checked my Local Wallmart was fresh out of Anti-Tank Rounds and I filed a complaint for lack of Product. Thanks. Captain America.
:D take a look in Biedronka, they will have it
go to finlands military and ask for them
With that they Kill Russian T-28 Tanks during Winterwar.
Hope you have deep pockets. www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm
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World of tanks also sponsored Demolition ranch too. Except They gave him a Tank
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GTDublin war thunder is better
Justin Solorzano yup
Justin Solorzano **triggered**
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I agree
this is part of my every day carry I got a custom holster made for it
Joshua Godsey LOL
Joshua Godsey dp ypu have a concealed carry licence so you can hide it in your pants?
harald s yes it and 3 spare magazines just in case I have to kill a hostile armored vehicle
Fåd Def the secret service would use a silenced version
Joshua Godsey I am holding it în the Back pocket of my jeans. It is not that big to be hold in a holster
Actually, this is how you set steel plates when you want to minimize the penetration of the bullet. The arrangement has been in use with WW II tanks, they had steel plate skirts around the tank, separated from the surface.
Next time, try with a solid block of steel!
20mm Lahti: for when you need to... Finnish the job properly.
I see what you did there.
ok... ur experiment is improper... ur shooting at spaced armor not armor thickness, ur experiment should be armor thickness, spaced armor is better at stopping rounds
and u arnt wearing proper PPE (personally protective equipment) how is this channel up if ur experiment is so inaccurate and ur so dangerous while doing so... just mind blown
Robert Espinoza you are one winy little bitch arent ya.
He is right though, no tank would have been armored with 4 feat of spaced armor. It completely changes the experiment.
TAKTİKSEL BİLGİ right on..
TAKTİKSEL BİLGİ depends on the tanks armor not all tanks have ceremic composite armor. some light tanks
have rolled homogeneous armor and steel plates as there main protection. :')
i would like to see how thick metal it could go trough 10mm? 20mm? 30mm? maybe 50?
It's important to have these weapons just in case someone gets attacked by steel plates.
what song is that in the back ground playing the guitar ?
i'd also like to know. bump this
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Sandstorm? By who?
Big Supes By Darude
When you separate the sheets like that the perforation will be less effective, because every sheet it trespass deforms a little bit the bullet and if you consider the friction of every perforation causing the bullet to bend or incline a little bit increasing the contact area. You can see the last holes more large than the first ones. In this case it would be effective to use an special kind of bullet instead, in order to keep the perforation the effective possible. It could be titanium tip, or put the sheets all together and I think it will pierce more than separating it.
Isn't this the concept of spaced armor?
How come WoT is contacting A LOT more YT-ers now? Are they worried about the new War Thunder update or what?
yes, drink me daddy
Because a thing called adverfuckingtisment is part of business and it happens to be that UA-cam is a great place to advertise. Most people don't even watch anything on tv but the news now.
Cloгох Вleacн Actually, CNN attracts more viewers than UA-cam, so WoT should be there instead.
Cloгох Вleacн a
An average channel wrqeyt
8:18 what is the name of this song please?
Reminds me of terramorphous the Invincible theme
vid starts at 3:59 thank me later.
phuck ewe yea me too
0:00 - 4:07 is _useless mumbo-jumbo part_
the *real fun* begins at 4:12
policia
GTA_LOVER ! thanks
GTA_LOVER ! Thx
I am working on a video of a Red Rider BB gun shooting through 1000 evenly spaced sheets of aluminum foil. After that, I plan on a video of shooting through 1000 evenly placed sheets of saran wrap. I am sure these videos will be as useful as this one, if any military vehicle is ever made like this. A 50 BMG and see how many prius's it will go through would be way funnier.
Does this gun come with a Free Shoulder Surgery voucher?
That gun looks like it has alot of mass, and the more mass of an object, the more kinetic energy required to induce motion. Between the size, the gas system, recoil springs and the muzzle break I bet that weapon has less recoil than a standard hunting rifle.
agree...
Don't get why people insert a single round into a magazine to load it when they could just pop it in the chamber. lol
Lol gotta keep that spring worked
GeneralKayoss I guess it just looks more epic
Gee u want that heavy bolt to slam on your fingers
@@mr_n_luvs69nieman82 Well if it doesn't have a bolt catch i understand.
By loading it in to the magazine instead of the chamber, it reduces the velocity of the bolt by virtue of the fact that it has to strip a cartridge out of the magazine. Without that added resistence, the bolt travels faster than intended, which can either damage the bolt, or at worst can make the firing pin jump forward and unintentionally fire the round.
i have a question.
lets say If that bullet penetrates 6 plates But what if you stick together those 6 plates? my question is will the bullet could penetrate the sticked 6 plates? and if yes would have more power to go for the 7th?
spaced armor is more resistant www.navweaps.com/index_nathan/Multi-plate_discussion.pdf
I think then it will penetrate more of them. WWI shield was build on that principle with gaps between 2 pieces which helped more than 1 solid. But sure a test would be great.
So of the best slow motion I've seen. Cheers!
watch it at 0.25x speed :)
Spaced armor works best when the projectile's penetration ability is compromised by the first few plates so that, as in the test here, the ability to penetrate the later plates is degraded. This can be due to projectile damage, as here, spreading the area of impact wider and wider in each successive plate, or by deflecting the projectile on an oblique impact (using non-parallel plates perhaps) so that it hits the later plates at a higher angle, also increasing the hole size (more oval), or, also more effective at an oblique impact, causing the projectile to yaw or tumble due to inadequate spin stabilization, again making a bigger hole in the later plates. If none of that occurs, then parallel-plate spaced armor, as here, is usually significantly inferior to a solid plate of the same total thickness made up of the same steel and hardness hit at the same angle. Even laminated armor, where the thin plates are tightly pressed together by bolts or welding, would be better, though not by as much of an edge. We are talking about steel armor and pointed or oval-nosed AP projectiles that do not suffer complete shatter on an early plate's face (this is an extreme case of the progressive damage case). Against ceramic or multi=material composites (modern tank armor), things get much more complicated.
Milked every cent of what ever that 1 round cost.
Gonpo Yama probably 10 bucks
music starts at 8:17 anyone knows the name?
2014 called they want their joke back!
Bag Raiders - Shooting Stars
I was going to ask same thing, its pretty nice.
You should have used the pak 40 vs armor plates
dude....the round will pass through and bury itself 6 feet into the ground. ..not to mention the ammo will cause the sheets to splinter everywere!
RAY RAY I meant that he should set up armor plates with different thicknesses and test the penetration. For example a sloped plate the thickness of the m4 sherman front armor. Etc
+White house gaming That would be epic. It's a shame, no one ever experiments with angled steel plates.. there are loads of videos with steel penetration tests but never at an angle!
He already explained why in the beginning: richochets = very real danger
richochets only happen with sloped and angled surfaces...not with 90 degree placed sheets
That was Fully Magnificent!
HEY YOU HERE TOO
+TAOFLEDERMAUS thank you sir!!!!!
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What is inch? Is there in international merric sistem? Why to use prehistoric stuff?
YOU GUYS NEED TO BORROW ONE AND HAVE SOME FUN MAKING ONE OF YOUR GREAT VIDEO'S
So, what's the effective armor thickness (in millimeters) of those steel plates?
10 minute video to shoot 1 lousey ass bullet?....Seems like UA-cam has bamboozled me again!
That's how the "cool crowd" rolls...............dude.
Pughy2o06 I
Any idea how rare that round is? It's worth more than your nutsack.
Pughy2o06 its not about that tho but you do have a point
Oden Son its worth more than 7000$ damn! (Fun fact each ball is. Worth 3500 so 7k for both )
Is it for sale brother let me know....?
Thankyou for taking time to demonstrate the gun's capabilities. Definitely a force to be reckoned with.
Okay, so after watching this video and someone asks if you can stand at the opposite side of the plates for $1M, will you do it?
These videos are more satisfying than those hot knife videos to me lol
+TheLegend27 😂😂😂😂😂
Damn i love this channel
The gun along with the slow mo camera footage made an incredible vid.
I would certainly love to see this same setup with modern ammunition because as you said, moisture would most certainly get in and affect ignition. Even with the round that you managed to fire, I absolutely guarantee that its performance was hindered due to all the years between production and now
Your slow motion footage is fucking amazing, keep up the good work.
True TechCheck. Slow motion is awesome
TechCheck: You're being sarcastic, aren't you? - what's funnier is that people take your comment seriously, at "face value" - "yeah, dude...AWWWWESOME!"
Was hoping for a 2” plate test or even a 4” plate
i wish they used a 50cal for comparison
Against modern .50 it would be about the same, it was only good against light armor. It worked against the original PZ II but any tanks after that it was fairly useless unless you could manage to shoot the treads and de-track it
+SilvaDreams They have almost the same muzzle velocity but the 20mm is far more heavy. A 20mm shot from this rifle would certainly be superior over a .50.
Jörg Schäffer With a modern load it would make a difference but not with the older ones.
The service AP munition from the L-39 is about 3 times the energy of the 12.7x99 /.50 BMG. The bullet from the 50 BMG weighs between 600, and 700 grains, while that of the 20x138B weighs about 2,500 grs.
beardo52 exactly
Who khow? At minute 4.21.
Tell me please.
Symphony music name's in this video?
9:29 that round is *T* *H* *I* *C* *C*
not sure what wal-mart speakers you're using but he says "sick"
R/Woosh
Omg is this the comment that made DemoRanch make those THICC shirts for the m249? 🤔
SimplyCRehZ it sounded like thicc old man
@@abadmixtape Lmaooooo
This is what you need for all those SWAT Lenco Bearcats.
whats is the background music at 8:16
"Elephant Foot" - from the album: "KING 103 Bayou Plays The Blues"-
wtf is up with wg sponsoring big gun channels?!
well theres no wonder in people switching to wt-its obviously better
I played both and I personally like WoT more, its more of a pure arcade while war thunder kinda like wants to be realistic but does not try enough.
Jadranka Ledinski They needs more players but it also brings us cool videos.
Arosankari What do you mean "does not try enough"? War Thunder tries to make it realistic by going off the tanks real stats. And they make you play smart by learning each tanks weakness to be able to successfully take them out. World of Tanks is honestly too arcade like for me, some tanks reload in 3 secs and their is a stupid health bar. But hey that's my opinion, you do you.
I wonder who they're going to sponsor next, I know they've also sponsored Demo Ranch, they going to sponsor Taofladermaus next?
i prefer WarThunder over world of tanks because WT is way more realistic
vasile sideris true😉
War thunder is more pay to win and completely unbalanced especially with those guided missiles. That's just my opinion tho.
pay to win ??? that is only for premium vehicles and the premiums are not the best in their BR and the missiles aren't guided you have to manually steer them to their target which is a difficult task. also the game is well balanced i dont see why you say it isn't because you wont see a Tu-4 while you are flying in a F4U corsair but yes along time ago the game was unbalanced.
WT is "realistic" game. Thats true. You can be oneshoted by anybody and do the same to the other players, but when you meet a BOT tank, its nearly impossible to kill him because Gayjin said FU. And the game balance? Bitch, please, its even more russian bias than WOT.
I suggest you to
1. Gid
2. Gud
I own now ost vehicles in that game, and russia is just average, the most powerfull techtree is the german one.
I always heard that air spaces are game changers. That, a round that might go through 3 inches will be stopped by three 1-inch plates separated by spaces
RR ....... can ammo boxes full of dirt protect you from a 50cal. ??????
how many??????
+NCPDFSB hmmmmm
Is someone shooting at you right now?
yes........ and i am running out of ammo....... all these empty ammo boxes piling up!
didnt in vietnam....
RIP. superman
fx Gamer man of steel xD
Bitch
Finland Ball Stalin
In MOS, he took that bullet in his face before he crashed into the building.
fx Gamer not even that could kill the man of steel. How dare you. Lol
How could you get the license for the 20mm Rifle?
maxwell zefanya you don't need one. it's a single shot rifle so you have to be 18 to own it. only catch is you can't fire any explosive rounds. that would require licensing.
Oh, thank you. Now i know that lol
Any firearm chambered in a round larger than 50 caliber is considered a destructive device by the batfe and requires a tax stamp to own
He's an arms dealer. So that's how he gets it. He made a video about it. Check it out :)
What`s the name of the vid?
Now I want to see it against a 1 1/2" plate , a 1 3/4" plate, and a 2" plate. It would be interesting to see if the gapping between the plates has an effect.
I mean "gotta hit the 10 mins mark!"
Wow that punched through a lot of steel, with this rifle be a danger to modern-day tanks?
TheBackyardScientist
to be frank, no. even WWII tanks had enough armor to stop these shells, late war tanks had an effective armor thickness hitting 300+ mm.
modern tanks have armor made out of multiple layers of super hard ceramics which would easily break up then absorb the shell.
also, if you are the real backyard scientist, i love your stuff
Keth Wintham thanks for the info, I guess you could score a lucky shot and maybe disable (not destroy) the tank or at least some of it's instruments. And when you say effective armor of 300 mm, do you mean tanks actually ride around with that much armor plating or it would be the equivalent of 300 mm of steel? I'm just thinking that would be so heavy. I know tanks use a sort of stand off armor plating that makes shaped charge is much less effective, and I guess it would function like a whipple shield for any small caliber round.
TheBackyardScientist
you would need a proper source to inform you on all of this, but i will give you as much as i can here.
no, they would not carry that much armor, but there are ways to make it act that thick without being that thick. one of the primary ways is through the sloping/angling of armor. when a plate is sloped, the projectile hitting it has several problems.
one is that the armor now has a face that isnt perfectly perpendicular to the point of the projectile, increasing the initial surface area it has to break through, and also increases the chance that the point wont create the small dent in the steel needed to guide it in, making it likely to glance off or start spinning end over end (which makes for pretty poor armor penetration).
another problem it makes for the projectile is that even though the armor may only be 100 mm thick, the projectile has to go through more than that, because it is traveling partially upward through the plate.
but some tanks do carry actual meter thick or greater armor.
a modern m1a2 abrams is around 70 tons combat loaded, and uses a jet style turbine engine to compensate.
the problem came when HEAT shells were invented, because they could punch through thousands of mm effective steel armor. this was essentially the cause for the invention of advanced composite armor, which is used on essentially every modern tank.
i dont think this gun could do any serious damage to a modern tank, except in very specific and incredibly rare circumstances.
abrams cost upwards of a few million bucks a piece, if something this cheap could disable them, they wouldn't be used.
i highly suggest you search youtube for some videos which explain it better than i can here on my phone (where it is very hard to collect my ideas, then present them well, including everything with no redundancy.) this description is far from perfect, and is missing some pretty major things.
Keth Wintham thanks Keth, that's a great primer for me to start looking stuff up to learn more! I've read about the turbine engine in the Abrams tank before, it's an outstanding piece of technology , and it was designed to run on virtually any fuel. This kind of stuff fascinates me, and in an alternate life I would probably be working for the military developing weapons at china lake ;)
TheBackyardScientist
definitely. im still young enough to pursue a career in chemical engineering (for explosives.) or military robotics, and would totally love to do that.
i have had some interesting ideas about caseless ammunition and how to re-create greek fire, and have a bit of an addiction to it myself. if only i had the money, materials, and space to experiment with these things. :'( XD
Thanks for the demo. How is the steel arranged in the side of a tank? One thick steel wall? Where did you get the 20mm gun? Can civilians own them?
during WWII armor was a single thick piece of steel, depending on what part of the tank it would be cast or rolled armor, a general concept back then was that the hull was rolled armor the turret was cast. During the cold war as fin stabilized anti tank shells became more commonly used we started to use spaced armor to protect against the molten copper or other metals used that is injected into the vehicle upon contact, around the 1960s composite armoring started being invented, using materials like ceramics or quartz. More modern day vehicles like the abrams used ceramic armoring in their early 1980s variants, but upgrades in the 2000s gave them depleted uranium armor encased inside the steel plating and shells with the same material, depleted uranium was used in armor due to it's very dense structure, meaning more protection for the same amount of space and in ammo due to the weight making it a very good penetrator
Mind if i ask, what music did you used ? please, im really curious, i really love it. btw great video as always ^^
+Mado I'm in ny right now!!! I'll try and check soon as I get back
I would also love to know name of the song (the one that can be heard at around 8:40). Thank you very much and keep up the good work, nice video!
Did anyone got the name of the song from 8:40?
So what is the song, please? :)
darude the overused song
Song?? Whats is the background music at 8:25
i'm searching for like a year now
Found it!!!! it's called: "Elephant Foot" - from the album: "KING 103 Bayou Plays The Blues"-
It's nowhere to be found on youtube though, just google it, you can found it on sites like "upright music search" or the official site: kingdom2music dot com and search "Bayou Plays The Blues" (vol 1)
You're welcome.
Oh man, thank you so much! I'd been looking for absolutely ages for this! Hope you have a great Sunday.
Dude use shazam and you will never suffer again
Afraa Jamil did not work for this one
You have to be i quite place
Ok. Not being a dick. Wouldn't the accuracy of actual armor penetration be better shown with solid pieces of steel? Because the gaps between (I would imagine) would give problems to the ballistics.
That is why spaced armor was made. But, spaced is really better for RPGs.
I agree, test fail
You are right my man
Sadly would only penetrate things with very small armour thickness. Even fighter planes have better penetration like 50 cal
Johnathan Deverouxe
my deceased friend Bob Ardle bought a 55 caliber Lahti anti-tank gun and had it re-barreled for 50 caliber. It took the same magazine, and we shot it repeatedly. It was awesome!
10 mins for ONE bullet. Bruhhhhhhhh....
Gotta make back the money they spent on this video somehow
Instead of showing us building the Plate holder and counting plates 67 times they coulda 1. Showed the cottage of the misfire 2. Shot the training ammo he mentioned not wanting to use because it’s just steel instead of tungsten. 3. Compare training VS AP penetration. 4. Shot another caliber like 50BMG or .338 (win mag, lapua mag, Norma mag whatever) or just 30-06/308 to compare the difference in penetration capabilities… ECT.
not me. i skipped to the juicy part. welcome to youtube btw. 🥴
That's what she said.
I guess you could say those first few plates were...Finnish'd?
Swervin309 really??
Akseli Ruokonen Yes.
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Huoh
CookieOwl _ lahti 20mm isfinnish so thats why
What is the name of the background music?
I want to know as well!
it"s called: " Play me on repeat in all your videos."
^^
unnamed. ol Darude Sandstorm
Lea Schmidt _no fuck you_)_
Is this a good starter rifle
Those high speed camera shots are amazing.
Whats the name of the plate checking song?? I NEED TO KNOW !!
Depth Charge by Inside Tracks
Nick MacLean can you send UA-cam link ? Or any other link to find that music ?
Nick MacLean wrong dude
Nice video! Well done!
+soopr38 thank you!!!!!!
Is this thing good for hunting? It's something I want to buy to help me hunt rabbits and badgers?
soopr38
Song?plz
I guess that recoil dislocated his shoulder a bit...
Rene M I said the same thing
a bit ?
it's not bad at all the gun is extremely heavy and it's planted into the ground
notice the things upholding the gun? Theres a reason there is a rocking motion in there its to absorb that energy haaha
10 minutes for something that should only take 1.
William Grand don't complain youtube is probably his job so he needs it to be 10 minutes to actually get some money
Are you the one out there shooting the rifle?
William Grand dont watch
well if i was shoting the rifle all the video takes 15 sec
welcome to youtube william grand, enjoy your time here
That high-speed slo-mo is incredible!
what do you have to do to buy an AT rifle. that seems like that would be kinda difficult.
I feel it would penetrate more than that if it's were not spaced armor.
Interestingly though the shot wasn't deflected.
Starts off with a clean penetration and gradually switches to blasting through armor using sheer energy and making a bigger and bigger hole.
The last sheet of metal that got penetrated must have been the one to absorb most of the energy since the round had lost it's penetrating shape and just punched through with kinetic energy leaving a huge hole.
Pretty cool to watch and interesting.
The video starts at 4:00 thank me later.
I'm not sure what concerns me more: the amount of time and effort it must have taken to set up the steel plate rig, or the actual damage the gun was able to accomplish, which is impressive for the time period. The Finns have absolutely never played around when it comes to making firearms.
There is more to this video. This video captured the recoil of the weapon. Watch how the energy from the recoil travels down the gun into his shoulder and then watch how that energy transferred down his spine into his hips on back. The physic of the projectile from the trigger forward is expected and was amazing. Still I find the physics from the trigger back almost as fascinating. It was amazing how far the shooters body traveled. Amazing watching the energy traveling from the gun butt into his shoulder. The last hole on sheet 7 is cool as heck for me. What a good video.
30sec of what we want to see 9min of blabla