You also have to think about it like how much longer will giannis be in his prime for due to his game which mostly relies on athleticism and i think that with this roster it gives a better chance to win and you have to take that risk even if you have to pay the price in the future
The Bucks Championship window is max 3 years and that is MAX. The bucks have to win now and after that window Giannis will probably get traded and the Bucks will rebuild
I think the question is when does Giannis start to really get injured and what will that be? Most guys a few years above him (like AD, Embiid) already have this string of injuries they've dealt with, but he is still under 30 years old, but that back injury in the playoffs might become a thing, or something else could become a thing. But other than that Giannis also has to evolve as a player, he might be less great offensively, but he can still be really really good. Lebron is 39 and is still deadly in transition. So Giannis could be great for long it just depends on Giannis willingness and ability to evolve with age
Hypothetically, they could clear all the salaries around Giannis in 3 years and then just rebuild around him from free agency (and if they won 2 titles in those 3 years they may be attractive location to join). Its kinda what Philly is trying to do with Embiid now @@emilfrederiksen.1622
@@emilfrederiksen.1622Giannis was NEVER LEAVIng. People domt seem to get it, Giannis said this week he wants to be a buck for life. Giannis only ever mentioned leaving to put pressure on the front office to make a move for dame, I promise you non bucks fans. He does not plan on leaving, that is media hype. Giannis wants to retire a buck the same way dame wants to retire a blazer. It is there homes. Mark my words dame will retire a blazer. Giannis a buck
Craziest part to me is how everybody overlook Jrue to Boston, to me that's even more impact than Lillard to Milwauke (yes I said it), Jrue is a true champiship player that perfectly completes the C's skillset wise. He's like a MUCH better marcus smart and we all know how important a player like smart was to that Boston squad Celtis are the favourites to win it all to me, mark my words
Thank you for such a detailed analysis of these trades. The criticism of Portland for squandering Damian Lilllard’s prime is perfectly justified but I would note that the GM for that period was a soap opera actor playing an NBA GM, Neil Olshey. Former Blazer owner, Paul Allen died in 2018, and was presumably in decline for the years before he passed. Jodi Allen is expected to sell the team in the near future. If that owner (Phil Knight, insh’Allah), is even half as engaged, Portland’s future is bright!
@@Edd-zd5wb He's not a big move, but the Buck's haven't had two point guards in a while. Just keeping things organized and getting things set up is a good thing.
Absolutely the best video out there concerning the trades and in depth breakdown of what these teams actually got. Detailed, analytical with a sense of honesty sorely lacking in most breakdowns this video truly shows the devil is in the details. People seem to forget that the Suns were the favorites after getting Beal even with their lack of depth, and then after these trades were kinda forgotten about. This will truly be an amazing nba playoffs this year.
I think the Nuggets are and have been the favorites. At least for people who know basketball. No trade will jump the champions before the year started. None of them have figured out any solutions to the Nuggets, they all just decided to get more offensive to try to beat the Nuggets at their own game and good luck with that when Jokic exists
Honestly, If Dame and Giannis get just 1 chip next 3 years, this trade was worth it. Giannis with 2 chips for MILWAUKEE and Dame with the chip he deserved for 11 years....Legendary stuff. If they get 2 though...OMG.
Grant to Sacramento or I would love to see Williams and Grant together in Dallas because those two can make Dallas a top 5 Defense but I don't think they can afford it but Grant to OKC, Orlando, or the Pelicans would be awesome and they all can afford it. Malcolm Brogdon to the Heat or Clippers is a for real possiblity.
To be fair to Dame, his agent was the one saying he wouldn't play anywhere else. I doubt Dame would have ever held out. Its not his personality. I think his agent was just trying to scare teams away.
Pairing dame and giannis is like pairing kobe with shaq, shaq with dwade or tim duncan with tony parker I think the ayton-nurkic trade was smart. Ayton got the chance to develop and the suns got nurkic, a reliable Bigman who knows hil role, adding additional depth they needed I don't really get the John Collins Trade... will the jazz play lauri on the 3 and collins on 4? Should have traded for a PG And last but not least Boston was intresting and i m lookin forward to see the results
If brogdon was faster that would be a beast team. But Portland needs to lose and get draft assets stocked for scoots window and not attempt a run this year
They never tried to get him to the Miami Heat, didnt speak to them for close to 3 months only with a phone call after initially accepting the Bucks deal, Cronin was never dealing Lillard to the HEAT and Ayton was always going to the blazers for nurkic and a shooter
if the bucks get just 1 win with this trade it'll be worth not having the future picks and an old core. even if they lose the next 5ish years after Giannis and dames contracts up the win will be worth it imo
giannis will resign then leave after or sign 1 more deal and retire a buck, this is what he has always been saying, he wants to compete at an elite level and that’s what the org is doing
Portland did well, they got some players back and some future picks, it the best they could do considering they’ll never land a big name free agents, the fact that Lillard only played with 1 all star his hole career kinda proves that. At this stage having Damn was hurting the Blazers and the Blazers were hurting Damn. Truth is Damn should’ve ask out 4 or 5 years ago I didn’t realize he’s already 33 as you pointed out there’s next to no guards that can keep up his level of production at his age.
I agree with that but at the same time with damn littered it wouldn't be a need for it to be close like that I think it would be too much points for the opposition team I truly think with Damian Lillard put and you're honest and put too much pressure on
I agree with that but at the same time with damn littered it wouldn't be a need for it to be close like that I think it would be too much points for the opposition team I truly think with Damian Lillard put and you're honest and put too much pressure on
32 is the new 29. Dame doesn't have a Major injury in his past but he could come out be the NBA's Arron Rodgers in gale on season over. I hope not but this is Dame's time to shine or fall apart because real win or go home pressure is on him. If game does not mix with the team and they lose early in the playoffs then Dame may be the cause of The Greek freak leaving to go elsewhere to hunt for another title and should that be the case Milwaukee will have to trade him because the people in Milwaukee will hate h more than he can possibly imagine.
He hasn’t had any major season-ending injuries. But you could tell he’s getting a little more injury prone as the years go on. It’s just the way life goes. There’s nothing you can do to avoid it.
It was all hype Giannis was never leaving, he was pressuring the fo to sign dame. They gave him proof they would do what it takes. And this week he literally said he wants to retire a buck. Stop the media stupidity. Bucks fans knew he wouldn’t leave. He’s already admitted he wasn’t gonna leave before his super max he was gonna retire lol.
Thank you for being objectively honest when it comes to Milwaukee’s title run. And the whole thing in general. Great video. Heat will be very good again, the same injuries won’t happen to Butler, Herro & Bam so expect a top 3/4 seed out East. Bucks will be very good. Suns will be very high scoring, gotta see what they can do defensively. You’re very objective on the teams here. I know I’m making the Miami thing a big emphasis (I am a fan), but I heard nothing but the praise and respect we’ve earned and I appreciate that.
What the heck is up with Ronnie Jamal Murray an 84?even the 88 is bullsh_t I know jokić overshadowed him but dude deserved 90 for sure or 92 he was too awesome his passing game, shooting and Mentality were next level
James harden starts the season with Philly within a week he goes down he won't play the rest of the season due to nagging injuries who becomes a free agent goes to China and becomes the richest basketball player ever
@@coreywoodland5522 Why did nobody bring up this video until Dame was traded to Mil? They're cleary joking about LBJ wanting Dame for the ASG. Don't forget that Dame and his agent DEMANDED a trade to MIA. Once the trade to MIL happened everybody started pouring thru old tweets and videos playing capt hindsight.
Good video. But I’m a little annoyed at 1 thing. You mention Milwaukee not owning a pick until 2030 and say it’s understandable to trade for a aging superstar like that. And almost in the same breath you mention the repercussions of trading your future away for a aging superstar and say “we are probably gonna be asking Mat Ishiba about that soon”. You are applying that Suns did something stupid and the Bucks did something smart and won’t suffer the consequences if it doesn’t pan out. The KD trade and this Dame trade is the same exact thing if you boil it down.
Damian Lillard will break NBA records Milwaukee Bucks uniform and the NBA got to put on a 4-point line in the NBA and get two spanning teams Seattle and Las Vegas NBA teams NBA record will be broken 33 winning streak
With everyone healthy .. Whoever wins the chip this year should move up the rankings because of the parody in the league no clear favorite. Especially if someone like Durant LeBron Curry.
Giannis is doing what lebron is doing but in a more secretive way as he saw lebrons career first stint ane cavs and knew not most team are not willing too give players help or dumb to now know what to do
Giannis was never leaving he literally just said he wants to retire a buck. And people have always spoken about him leaving. it’s not new. This media hype about him leaving is dumb. If u ever watched him u knew he was never leaving. Dude is a minority brewer owner. He loves the state. Said he was gonna retire before his super max if they didn’t show him they want to win. He was never gonna leave
Its not media hype genius. Giannis said himself he would leave. You are truly braindead if you didn't take that at face value. The bucks front office sure as hell did.
U obviously don’t watch a lot of bucks or Giannis lol. Not to mention he literally said he wants to a retire a buck this week, he was only saying those things to pressure Milwaukee to get dame lol. He was never leaving. Dude is minority owner of the brewers now
Celtics and heat really squandered their chance at a title. Both those post seasons bucks were injured. Im not sure how jru is going to fill the void of grant and robert williams. Celtics have to have one of the worst defensice frontcourts in the league. Thats assuming they'll even be healthy
They have no one on the team that will consistently stop Giannis or Embiid etc. the Celtics got better in one position while overall got worse defensively.
@atmosfear3056 💯. I was really confused by the jru acquisition. Seemed almost like a panic move after the Dame trade, considering how much the Celtics gave up for him.
@@billybobby5247 Jrue is an upgrade from Smart, he's just better at everything. But losing front court pieces was a bad off season move. Hoping on Porzingas staying healthy and Horford lasting is just so wrong.
Dame to Milwaukee was the best trade of the off-season imo and I'm here for it
I don't mind seeing the Bucks winning it all again 😂
@@Cyantist13 same LoL
I’m in.
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This ring can be for all small market fans. Portland deserves and owns a piece of this ring with Milwaukee and all small Market teams
Need more 30 min videos 🫡
this is a great video my man! content and thoughts are insightful and statistics are relevant and extremely helpful. well done 🙌
Fantastic overview!
You went crazy on this breakdown bro. Amazing video
Really well put together video, good job.
What’s also super scary is it is looking like marjon beauchamp is a young kawhi Leonard. Like fr. The kid is special.
You also have to think about it like how much longer will giannis be in his prime for due to his game which mostly relies on athleticism and i think that with this roster it gives a better chance to win and you have to take that risk even if you have to pay the price in the future
The Bucks Championship window is max 3 years and that is MAX. The bucks have to win now and after that window Giannis will probably get traded and the Bucks will rebuild
I think the question is when does Giannis start to really get injured and what will that be? Most guys a few years above him (like AD, Embiid) already have this string of injuries they've dealt with, but he is still under 30 years old, but that back injury in the playoffs might become a thing, or something else could become a thing. But other than that Giannis also has to evolve as a player, he might be less great offensively, but he can still be really really good. Lebron is 39 and is still deadly in transition. So Giannis could be great for long it just depends on Giannis willingness and ability to evolve with age
Hypothetically, they could clear all the salaries around Giannis in 3 years and then just rebuild around him from free agency (and if they won 2 titles in those 3 years they may be attractive location to join). Its kinda what Philly is trying to do with Embiid now @@emilfrederiksen.1622
@@emilfrederiksen.1622Giannis was NEVER LEAVIng. People domt seem to get it, Giannis said this week he wants to be a buck for life. Giannis only ever mentioned leaving to put pressure on the front office to make a move for dame, I promise you non bucks fans. He does not plan on leaving, that is media hype. Giannis wants to retire a buck the same way dame wants to retire a blazer. It is there homes. Mark my words dame will retire a blazer. Giannis a buck
@@blablablaa14embiid has been injury prone since college. Giannis has not
The biggest loser in this trade is the Miami Heat. They’ve allowed their two biggest competitors even stronger.
Craziest part to me is how everybody overlook Jrue to Boston, to me that's even more impact than Lillard to Milwauke (yes I said it), Jrue is a true champiship player that perfectly completes the C's skillset wise. He's like a MUCH better marcus smart and we all know how important a player like smart was to that Boston squad
Celtis are the favourites to win it all to me, mark my words
Thank you for such a detailed analysis of these trades. The criticism of Portland for squandering Damian Lilllard’s prime is perfectly justified but I would note that the GM for that period was a soap opera actor playing an NBA GM, Neil Olshey. Former Blazer owner, Paul Allen died in 2018, and was presumably in decline for the years before he passed. Jodi Allen is expected to sell the team in the near future. If that owner (Phil Knight, insh’Allah), is even half as engaged, Portland’s future is bright!
great content, immediate sub
phenomenal video
are people purposely not mentioning that the bucks picked up Cameron Payne? i’m confused. NOBODY is talking about that?
@@Edd-zd5wb He's not a big move, but the Buck's haven't had two point guards in a while. Just keeping things organized and getting things set up is a good thing.
As a suns fan cam Payne is just ok, he learned a lot from cp3 but he can play himself off the court kinda often
@@Edd-zd5wb salty heat fan?
@@timjohnson6694 he doesn’t need to score. he needs to play defense
@@Edd-zd5wb you’re getting upset that the bucks picked up a decent bench player. just assumed you were hung up on Dame still too.
Absolutely the best video out there concerning the trades and in depth breakdown of what these teams actually got. Detailed, analytical with a sense of honesty sorely lacking in most breakdowns this video truly shows the devil is in the details. People seem to forget that the Suns were the favorites after getting Beal even with their lack of depth, and then after these trades were kinda forgotten about. This will truly be an amazing nba playoffs this year.
I think the Nuggets are and have been the favorites. At least for people who know basketball. No trade will jump the champions before the year started. None of them have figured out any solutions to the Nuggets, they all just decided to get more offensive to try to beat the Nuggets at their own game and good luck with that when Jokic exists
Im looking forward to tyty development. He’s good. Didnt get enough reps in unorganized rockets.
Celtics have the most secure conteding status over the next few years that 2029 pick will not be significant
“Pennies on the Dollar” LOL
Honestly, If Dame and Giannis get just 1 chip next 3 years, this trade was worth it. Giannis with 2 chips for MILWAUKEE and Dame with the chip he deserved for 11 years....Legendary stuff. If they get 2 though...OMG.
Grant to Sacramento or I would love to see Williams and Grant together in Dallas because those two can make Dallas a top 5 Defense but I don't think they can afford it but Grant to OKC, Orlando, or the Pelicans would be awesome and they all can afford it. Malcolm Brogdon to the Heat or Clippers is a for real possiblity.
Current edit kinda 🔥💯
To be fair to Dame, his agent was the one saying he wouldn't play anywhere else. I doubt Dame would have ever held out. Its not his personality. I think his agent was just trying to scare teams away.
23:13 “no value comes from having a great 10th man” is a HOTTTT take. Come Injuries you’ll wish you had a good 10th man
Pairing dame and giannis is like pairing kobe with shaq, shaq with dwade or tim duncan with tony parker
I think the ayton-nurkic trade was smart. Ayton got the chance to develop and the suns got nurkic, a reliable Bigman who knows hil role, adding additional depth they needed
I don't really get the John Collins Trade... will the jazz play lauri on the 3 and collins on 4? Should have traded for a PG
And last but not least Boston was intresting and i m lookin forward to see the results
Bucks also got a good back up pg on cameron payne
I'm not going to lie the big men core of Portland just low key became really good as well. Portland did everyone right
If brogdon was faster that would be a beast team. But Portland needs to lose and get draft assets stocked for scoots window and not attempt a run this year
@@Shawn-Leider I still can see them hitting a 42-40 season above .500 with the team they have. But i agree with you
They never tried to get him to the Miami Heat, didnt speak to them for close to 3 months only with a phone call after initially accepting the Bucks deal, Cronin was never dealing Lillard to the HEAT and Ayton was always going to the blazers for nurkic and a shooter
if the bucks get just 1 win with this trade it'll be worth not having the future picks and an old core. even if they lose the next 5ish years after Giannis and dames contracts up the win will be worth it imo
amazing
Bro got lazy with the thumbnail lmao
giannis will resign then leave after or sign 1 more deal and retire a buck, this is what he has always been saying, he wants to compete at an elite level and that’s what the org is doing
Portland did well, they got some players back and some future picks, it the best they could do considering they’ll never land a big name free agents, the fact that Lillard only played with 1 all star his hole career kinda proves that. At this stage having Damn was hurting the Blazers and the Blazers were hurting Damn. Truth is Damn should’ve ask out 4 or 5 years ago I didn’t realize he’s already 33 as you pointed out there’s next to no guards that can keep up his level of production at his age.
Fun fact dame and Giannis came in same draft. But dame played college Giannis came as a kid.crazy how that works isn’t it
Damn ? 😂
It is worth mentioning that in games 4 and 5 of the finals the bucks won on clutch defensive steals by jrue
I agree with that but at the same time with damn littered it wouldn't be a need for it to be close like that I think it would be too much points for the opposition team
I truly think with Damian Lillard put and you're honest and put too much pressure on
I agree with that but at the same time with damn littered it wouldn't be a need for it to be close like that I think it would be too much points for the opposition team
I truly think with Damian Lillard put and you're honest and put too much pressure on
The only loser is Jeremy Grant if he was looking to join a team that went far into the playoffs.
Yeah like in theory lillard should stop teams from throwing the kitchen sink at Giannis thinking twice like if lillard heat up no way we win the game
I’d say Ray Allen and KG to Celtics had the biggest impact on contenders considering the Celtics went from worst record to NBA champions.
32 is the new 29. Dame doesn't have a Major injury in his past but he could come out be the NBA's Arron Rodgers in gale on season over. I hope not but this is Dame's time to shine or fall apart because real win or go home pressure is on him. If game does not mix with the team and they lose early in the playoffs then Dame may be the cause of The Greek freak leaving to go elsewhere to hunt for another title and should that be the case Milwaukee will have to trade him because the people in Milwaukee will hate h more than he can possibly imagine.
He hasn’t had any major season-ending injuries. But you could tell he’s getting a little more injury prone as the years go on. It’s just the way life goes. There’s nothing you can do to avoid it.
It was all hype Giannis was never leaving, he was pressuring the fo to sign dame. They gave him proof they would do what it takes. And this week he literally said he wants to retire a buck. Stop the media stupidity. Bucks fans knew he wouldn’t leave. He’s already admitted he wasn’t gonna leave before his super max he was gonna retire lol.
Dame barely plays more than 60 games a season on average the last four years.
Thank you for being objectively honest when it comes to Milwaukee’s title run. And the whole thing in general. Great video. Heat will be very good again, the same injuries won’t happen to Butler, Herro & Bam so expect a top 3/4 seed out East. Bucks will be very good. Suns will be very high scoring, gotta see what they can do defensively. You’re very objective on the teams here. I know I’m making the Miami thing a big emphasis (I am a fan), but I heard nothing but the praise and respect we’ve earned and I appreciate that.
Portland vs Bucks would be cool NBA finals
What the heck is up with Ronnie Jamal Murray an 84?even the 88 is bullsh_t I know jokić overshadowed him but dude deserved 90 for sure or 92 he was too awesome his passing game, shooting and Mentality were next level
James harden starts the season with Philly within a week he goes down he won't play the rest of the season due to nagging injuries who becomes a free agent goes to China and becomes the richest basketball player ever
Wouldn't shock me if Giannis' recent comments were just a smokescreen to add perceived value to Bucks future first round picks
milwaukee getting kareem leaving flash backs
Denver And Warriors also had injuries in thier playoffs runs, why y'all only on the Bucks with this excuse?
Aldridge was not back to the basket lol
Is anyone else tired of NBA YT/twitter/whoever making out llike that LeBron/Giannis clip from the ASG has anything to do with the Dame trade?
It def has sum to do with it they both been expressing how they won’t to play eachother over the last couple years n you see it in that video
Dame when he expanded his list included the Bucks as an option, and that's probably at least a small piece why
@@coreywoodland5522
Why did nobody bring up this video until Dame was traded to Mil? They're cleary joking about LBJ wanting Dame for the ASG. Don't forget that Dame and his agent DEMANDED a trade to MIA. Once the trade to MIL happened everybody started pouring thru old tweets and videos playing capt hindsight.
I don’t think there is anything to it. It’s just used to get people talking. There is no collusion or tampering lol that’s all conspiracy theories
Good video. But I’m a little annoyed at 1 thing. You mention Milwaukee not owning a pick until 2030 and say it’s understandable to trade for a aging superstar like that. And almost in the same breath you mention the repercussions of trading your future away for a aging superstar and say “we are probably gonna be asking Mat Ishiba about that soon”. You are applying that Suns did something stupid and the Bucks did something smart and won’t suffer the consequences if it doesn’t pan out. The KD trade and this Dame trade is the same exact thing if you boil it down.
I explain this difference in the video
Dame has that same gravity pull Curry has whenever he’s on the court. That will make Giannis life easier on the court
🤣 delusional, he don't have the same gravity as Curry
Damian Lillard will break NBA records Milwaukee Bucks uniform and the NBA got to put on a 4-point line in the NBA and get two spanning teams Seattle and Las Vegas NBA teams NBA record will be broken 33 winning streak
They will have to trade Middleton or Lopez next season to cover for Lopez Age.
man deandre ayton to the suns is still so mindblowing to me....
ps, you might wanna change your vid's description😋
what?
With everyone healthy .. Whoever wins the chip this year should move up the rankings because of the parody in the league no clear favorite. Especially if someone like Durant LeBron Curry.
People thought I was crazy but if I was Miami I would’ve traded bam he ain’t no better than nurkic and I got dame to hell with bam
never seen how all those pick are just from jrue the bucks trading everything for jrue to get him and trade him
Giannis is doing what lebron is doing but in a more secretive way as he saw lebrons career first stint ane cavs and knew not most team are not willing too give players help or dumb to now know what to do
Depth is key
why yall dont get player have better condition coaches ,better diets,more money less fouls so they will play longer!
The Bucks traded their whole decade for Giannis.
It’s like pau getting Kobe
Didn’t the Knicks beat the Cavs 4-1. Why do we keep referencing them as possibly contenders
Cp3 is more of a point guard than dame. Meaning he's more of a team player than the 1v1 scoring the NBA does now.
Too much drama about the trade.. it is just business
Real Title: Off-Season Trade Break down from a Pessimist stand point
Giannis to Philly 😏
Philly would have to give up Maxey
Can't wait for Celtics vs Bucks for Jrue and Brad Stevens to show you how wrong you all are
Giannis was never leaving he literally just said he wants to retire a buck. And people have always spoken about him leaving. it’s not new. This media hype about him leaving is dumb. If u ever watched him u knew he was never leaving. Dude is a minority brewer owner. He loves the state. Said he was gonna retire before his super max if they didn’t show him they want to win. He was never gonna leave
Its not media hype genius. Giannis said himself he would leave. You are truly braindead if you didn't take that at face value. The bucks front office sure as hell did.
Giannis will still leave
U obviously don’t watch a lot of bucks or Giannis lol. Not to mention he literally said he wants to a retire a buck this week, he was only saying those things to pressure Milwaukee to get dame lol. He was never leaving. Dude is minority owner of the brewers now
Celtics and heat really squandered their chance at a title. Both those post seasons bucks were injured.
Im not sure how jru is going to fill the void of grant and robert williams. Celtics have to have one of the worst defensice frontcourts in the league. Thats assuming they'll even be healthy
They have no one on the team that will consistently stop Giannis or Embiid etc. the Celtics got better in one position while overall got worse defensively.
@atmosfear3056 💯. I was really confused by the jru acquisition. Seemed almost like a panic move after the Dame trade, considering how much the Celtics gave up for him.
@@billybobby5247 Jrue is an upgrade from Smart, he's just better at everything.
But losing front court pieces was a bad off season move. Hoping on Porzingas staying healthy and Horford lasting is just so wrong.
Nuggets still on top 💪
Celtics would be doomed down below when they meet with the bucks.
Video was wayyyyyy to long and drawn out got bored
All these odd people, doing videos who knows nothing about basketball.
playoff jrue is a basketball terrorist. I would be happy to see him gone even for free
Jesus died and resurrected for our sins unlike any other prophet (Mohammed) never resurrected, repent and spread the word
Finally somebody said it
The bucks Championship it's a joke
What Matt has done for the suns is astronomical. You’re a UA-camr hating bruh😭