MuseScore 3/4 Comparison - Beethoven's 7th Symphony, Mvt. 2

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @bordersofelmet
    @bordersofelmet 2 роки тому +6

    'MuseScore3, play Beethoven 7 Mvt. 2'
    MuseScore3: 'HONK HONK HONK HONK'

  • @dragonspeed3000
    @dragonspeed3000 2 роки тому +32

    Nice !
    This movement does a great job at showing the lackings of the new playback performer with the staccatos (brass, wood and strings)
    But overhaul what a blast !

  • @juliocanche7822
    @juliocanche7822 2 роки тому +40

    I suggest to do Mahler 8 next (as it includes a gigantic orchestra, organ and chorus) + the textures of Mahler 6 (1st mvt development and the Andante moderato) and 5 (Adagietto for string orchestra, Scherzo for solo horn, Rondo-Finale for counterpoint, first two mvts for great orchestral textures) would be interesting to hear

    • @_ve0
      @_ve0  2 роки тому +14

      All great suggestions. I’ll see what’s reasonable given the limitations of the application (and my own work ethic)

    • @rngiscurse
      @rngiscurse 2 роки тому +2

      I've been waiting for this! Mahler with Musescore 4 is something I'd love to hear

  • @kadenze6176
    @kadenze6176 2 роки тому +18

    huge improvement. still a long way to go, but very impressive

  • @yandrak6134
    @yandrak6134 2 роки тому +1

    The staccatos and maybe dymanics too need to be adjusted, but the change is huge!!! Finally you can actually understand a little bit what your composition sounds like, without destroying your ears hahaha. Congrats to everyone who is developing this stuff

  • @AriannaCunningham
    @AriannaCunningham Рік тому

    I've actually played Beethoven's 7th (2nd Movement) before a few times, and I think the comparisons are very good.

  • @ronigabriel44
    @ronigabriel44 2 роки тому +16

    Did you do any EQ adjustments for MuseScore 4 sounds or add any reverbs? Thank you for sharing and putting this together. MuseScore 4 is an amazing tool.

    • @_ve0
      @_ve0  2 роки тому +23

      I answered your comment on the other video, but I’ll answer here again for those who won’t see the other: no adjustments were made outside of ornamentation/dynamics at all.

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 2 роки тому +4

    MuseScore 4 sounds so much better than MuseScore 3. I noticed the difference myself even back in the Beta phase with a Beethoven symphony as well, Beethoven's Fifth. Beethoven's Fifth has always been a piece I used to test out MuseScore playback since 1.2 in 2012.

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 2 роки тому +1

      I decided to make a video to show that change I am talking about. In fact, I went a couple steps further than you did. I made a screen recording of that piece I have used for playback testing, Beethoven’s Fifth(First Movement specifically), in all 4 versions of MuseScore, from 1.2 to 2.3.2 to 3.6.2 to the current version of MuseScore 4. Hearing 1.2 while recording it, it’s hard to believe that that atrocity is what MuseScore started with. And then I also have little snippets of video I exported from PowerPoint showing what I heard in each version based on 3 qualities, Instrument Sounds(As in what the instruments themselves sound like, MIDI or real instruments, out of pitch at times or not), In App Quality(As in what it’s like in the app itself, is there lag, are there tempo changes that can’t be explained easily), and Export Quality(As in what it sounds like when I export MP3, is it the same as in the app or is it better or worse). I should be uploading the video soon, it’s a long one though(8 minutes for first movement of Beethoven’s Fifth x 4 versions of MuseScore)

    • @caterscarrots3407
      @caterscarrots3407 2 роки тому

      Here’s the video ua-cam.com/video/-BtdrD9rfq4/v-deo.html

  • @notme437
    @notme437 2 роки тому +16

    The tuplets in particular seem to be very rushed in MS4

    • @_ve0
      @_ve0  2 роки тому +11

      Yes, they tend to have poor timing by default, and on top of that any ornamentation or articulation makes it even worse. A very annoying problem

  • @holidayrifle3913
    @holidayrifle3913 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do a comparison for classical guitar? Which software is better if I want to get into writing music for the guitar? Do you know of any helpful resources? Thank you

  • @orangecloudsonanindigoblue9786
    @orangecloudsonanindigoblue9786 2 роки тому

    The Allegro (first movement) of Beethoven Fourth Symphony, please.

  • @soundknight
    @soundknight 2 роки тому

    A phenominal achievement!

  • @Rub5007
    @Rub5007 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much!❤

    • @Rub5007
      @Rub5007 2 роки тому

      I recreated the first measures of Mahler finale of his 3rd symphony in Musescore 4. I’m still very impressed by the sound it makes. They did a very good job

  • @SiggeSvahn
    @SiggeSvahn 2 роки тому +1

    Good job!

  • @manuelluisgonzalezfleitas6661
    @manuelluisgonzalezfleitas6661 2 роки тому

    Can you do it with Dvorak symphony 9 4th movement??

  • @BsktImp
    @BsktImp 2 роки тому +9

    Someone needs to do a machine learning model using terabytes of recordings & scores as training data.

    • @harrybmichell
      @harrybmichell 2 роки тому +14

      It doesn’t really work like that lol

    • @batatanna
      @batatanna 2 роки тому +9

      It's easier and more effective to just make better samples... Machine learning sucks at this kind of database

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 2 роки тому +6

      I’m pretty sure there have been tons of mastered instruments generated using AI, but none have really made it to market because they never sound completely right or are worthwhile for active composition. They can act as a virtual player, rendering music in a sense, but they can’t do live playback. Even worse is the computing power required to make a genuine performance that sounds good. Stuff like ornamentation is very hard to score in machine learning, too, so it makes every performance sound bland without manually adding some notation you feed into the player.
      tl;dr: it’s been done, and it’s not as good as a human or even trained robot playing real instruments

    • @kieuucanh1220
      @kieuucanh1220 2 роки тому +1

      @@batatanna I'm pretty sure noteperformer uses AI in its articulation control

  • @bobschaaf2549
    @bobschaaf2549 2 роки тому

    More sophisticated perhaps, but still sounds like a barrel organ. I'll take Järvi.

  • @thomasherzog86
    @thomasherzog86 Рік тому

    jesus, all of them are in a hurry. ^⁠_⁠^

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 2 роки тому +1

    Percussion sounds as if stuffed in a cardboard box.

  • @marshallgrey2159
    @marshallgrey2159 2 роки тому

    First