For some reason I enjoy your videos with less transitions and editing- you are good on camera man! You often include a lot of good info as well so don't stress about it
Lots of good ideas. I never thought I'd using the Sunesis this way. Thank you for the content. Been watching for a few months. Now I am a subscriber because of this one.
I use a Neurus or a Sunesis for high sec hauling and it gets the job done very well. The Neurus has the powergrid and fitting slots necessary for a really strong shield tank which can tank through gank attempts, and you can comfortably haul packaged frigates, packaged destroyers, modules, compressed ores, or ammunition with decent skills and a cargohold boosting rig or two. If you have intertial stabilizers fitted and good enough skills, a Neurus can get under 5 second align time which is pretty solid for transporting things over long distances through high sec. The Sunesis is excellent for hauling high value low volume loot, such as dogtags, clone soldier tags, blueprints, and such without having to worry about getting ganked due to the high align time of under 2 seconds. I have yet to come across someone that attempted to gank me at a gate in high sec when flying one, and you can also reliably haul cargo in it through low sec while fitting a shield tank that can tank smartbomb camps you come across. You can also fit a Sunesis to give it a reasonable cargohold capacity if you have good propulsion and ship agility skills to still get under 2 second align time, for an extremely safe method of hauling decent amounts of loot to a trade hub to sell. A Neurus or a Sunesis are good candidates for hauling because they also don't require much in the way of skills to pilot well, and are generally the safest options for hauling. A Nereus is the only Tech 1 hauler that I generally feel comfortable hauling stuff with, because you can tank 3 or 4 ganking cruisers pretty reliably in it (tanking skills can allow you to tank more potentially, such as maxed out shield skills and maxed out Mechanics skill for more structure HP). You can use a Miasmos for gathering up mined ores from high sec mining belts, which is the only other tech 1 hauler I've really used for anything. It has a paper thin tank, but since you're not looking to stay in an asteroid belt for very long you can generally avoid being ganked with it since you just gather up the ores then warp back to a player owned station in the same system.
Thank you for all the tips! Finding the right hauler and fitting it correctly is such an interesting problem to tackle. No pun intended. For me it’s mostly a Sunesis and T1 indies sometimes. Maybe some BR soon! If you mouse over a module, click the small arrow icon to remove it
I use a prorator myself for most of my hauling, with hyperspatial nullifier and warp stab, in addition in mid i use a ECM burst, that combination has gotten myself trough most if not all gatecamps and other hairy situations. If you want to do serious hauling, train for a blockade runner, its never a waste and there also relatively cheap
great vid. dont forget about stuff like giant secure containers and their smaller versions. if you could get that stratios to 3000m3 even you can use a GSC to expand to 3900 m3 which lets you haul a mining barge lol. its approx +30% rounded down to the interger value of how many secure containers u can fit not sure how to get those last few m3, maybe theres an implant or faction mod thats not too spendy? back in the old days everyone did this coz all the haulers sucked lol
Very nicely done and a great video! Only thing I would have liked to see is the last and in my opinion "best" hauling ship. It is the one you don't fly but the one who accepted your courier contract XD. People fly stuff so ridicilously cheap in this game that I don't even bother anymore to fly stuff myself. Most of the time it is a waste of time and money and "if" you get killed it is even worse. I lost in my eve life so far a JF, a freighter, 4 viators and I don't count epithals or other t1 haulers. But if I add that all up I can pay for another 15 eve years the reward fees for the courier contracts (I did the math based on my hauling needs) with zero risk. Unless public couriers form a union or go on general strike or something I am going to stick with this method because it let's me keep doing things that makes a lot of isk while others fly my stuff around fur stupidly low wages.
good video, few notes. first... no tier 1 haulers? When I first started playing, the Wreathe was my bread and butter; I did hundreds of high-sec runs using the mwd-cloak trick and was never ganked. As the months passed, I was hauling up to a billion isk at a time. Eventually I trained into the Prowler but still found myself using my Wreathe fleet. They're practically the same ship; Wreathe just requires more diligence to run safely and the Prowler is a bit better in low-sec. You mention in the video that getting de-cloaked in a BR can be a death sentence- This is very true and I was ganked in a Prowler once after getting decloaked hauling through low-sec (loot fairy said no though lmao). Fortunately my loss was only ~2-3bn ISK. It is INSANE to me that you would haul 20bn isk in ANY ship... but maybe I'm just more risk-adverse. That would make a pretty funny killmail. Lately in Uedema, I've been seeing gankers park 3-4 drones by warp gates with the sole intent of breaking cloak; cloak is nice but it is no substitute for fast align/warp. Next... No Orca? Nice tanky hull with DCM and bulkheads, can sprinkle some shields on top of that, fast align/warp when using MWD... (MUCH faster than haulers) Relatively low skill requirements... Very versatile and great ship for high-sec hauling. Granted, things have changed a lot in the past few years and Orcas are almost double the price they were when I was playing EvE more heavily in 2018-2019, but they have their niche and you can generally haul
Eh ... It depends on what you're doing. I've got some characters - who are miners - that mostly use a Miasmos for hauling ore. That is the hauler they use most of the time - because - most of the time they are hauling - they are hauling ore. But - sometimes they are not hauling ore - and the Miasmos has a pitiful cargo hold. So - they use a Wraith for that - because they got this Wraith for free doing Career Agent Missions - and it does the job. I've thought about getting a better hauler but ... I don't really use one that often. I've got a Ships Hangar full of ships I don't use - because I got them somehow - like doing Career Agent Missions - and have no need for them. Every now and again - I have to make two trips with the Wraith ... and every time that happens I start thinking about buying a better hauler but ... at the moment - it's easier to just make two trips with the Wraith than go to the trouble to buy and fit a better ship - all so I don't have to make two short trips in a Wraith ... If that happened a lot - I'd certainly get a better general purpose hauler - but it doesn't. Not with what I'm doing. .
Mastodon is the best dst by far. with warp accelerators and hyperspacials its fast enough and theres plenty of room for faction tank mods. if you can align, cloak, mwd, decloak and jump right its stupid hard to catch too.
I have 2 blockade runners, one set up exclusively for in system use and one to take smaller high value stuff to the hub. Just bought a freighter to mainly haul ore or excess tritainium. When the freighter Flys it usually has stuff I manufactured in the hold too. One slow trip beats the heck out of a LOT of fast trips.
You forgot warp speed lows for freighters. They are worse than inertial lows if solo but they make trips faster if you're webbing the freighter. Particularly long ones.
I like putting a probe launcher on my Blockade Runner so I can navigate Wormholes! I have only lost my crane by getting caught in drag bubbles filled with frigate swarms.
Can't use the MWD-cloak trick with a Bowhead. No high slots to fit a cloak. Also, a blops will work in place of a JF for low-volume/high-value stuff, in more situations as it can fit a cloak and jump to covert cynos.
Did they change how WCS work? I thought the ship base was 1, each WCS added 1 and in order to warp you needed at least 1 warp strength. So if I have 3 (two WCS and the ship base of 1) a faction scram (-3) will catch you because your ship's effective warp core strength is 0.
Yes, they changed them. You can only have 1 module now and it give 2 warp core stability when activated. I believe it starts activated for 10 seconds or so but also has a cooldown.
You look alot like my buddy that died a bunch of years ago. Bro was my brother. His last name was Loveless. Thought it was interesting you call your channel hateless and look like him.
24:45 What would it take to even kill 1 of those in high-sec? Even if u are alone and lets say 20 Catalysts jump ontop of u with an average dps of 500 each. That average out to 10k dps for the entire fleet and it would still take them around 45 sec to kill u. Are Concord really that slow that even in a ship that tanky u still are at risk of a 20 ship strong ganker fleet? I get that not all gankers use a Catalyst but still it brings up the question of how long is Concords responds time when u still feel in danger in highsec running this.
sub 50m 7km3 [Iteron Mark V, Iteron Mark V] Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Warp Core Stabilizer II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Power Diagnostic System II Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Multispectrum Shield Hardener II 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Interdiction Nullifier I Improved Cloaking Device II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
@@HateLesSGaming Well! Thanks for the reply. It's rare I get a content creator who replies! I've enjoyed your videos so much that I subbed last night. I played EVE for 11 years solid and stopped 3 years ago when CODE just made it too much of a pain in the ass to play in hi-sec anymore. Here's a fun fact for ya: I was doing some math (cuz I'm bored) and the Prorator does 3.7 quadrillion miles per second with a whopping 347 million g's of acceleration force? Heh, I used to do all these calc's when playing just for some fun. Plus, I'd answer gankers with these same fun facts, when they'd try to extract tears after a particularly painful suicide gank, lol! Eve isn't called 'spreadsheets in space' for nothing, you know!
@@HateLesSGaming I could deal with them, it's just that they were so damned annoying, lol! Question: Is CODE still in business?? Still selling 'mining permits' for hisec? I swear most of those jagoffs were just griefers. At least gankers exist to make money and I can appreciate that....to a degree. I promise I'm not going to try and take up your time with conversation. I've been away from EVE for 3 years and probably won't go back, but it's nice to take a walk down memory lane occasionally, AND to see what's changed in the last few years. Thanks for taking time out of your day to shoot the bull with an old fart, lol!
the sooner star citizen is released and rips the ass out of this game the sooner ccp might wake up eve is sleep walking to the end greed is king eve is broken devs are lazy the game is old and look it
For some reason I enjoy your videos with less transitions and editing- you are good on camera man! You often include a lot of good info as well so don't stress about it
You're smile makes my day! Thank you for making content :)
Lots of good ideas. I never thought I'd using the Sunesis this way. Thank you for the content. Been watching for a few months. Now I am a subscriber because of this one.
Excellent tips for newer players even for older players that never thought of hauling more expensive/large stuff
Honestly, every single one of your videos needs a segment where you pet the kitty. Also, great video!
I love the guide! Very informative, no bullshit and not boring :D
Love the cat, love the video. More cat. And more video if you have time.
I use a Neurus or a Sunesis for high sec hauling and it gets the job done very well.
The Neurus has the powergrid and fitting slots necessary for a really strong shield tank which can tank through gank attempts, and you can comfortably haul packaged frigates, packaged destroyers, modules, compressed ores, or ammunition with decent skills and a cargohold boosting rig or two. If you have intertial stabilizers fitted and good enough skills, a Neurus can get under 5 second align time which is pretty solid for transporting things over long distances through high sec.
The Sunesis is excellent for hauling high value low volume loot, such as dogtags, clone soldier tags, blueprints, and such without having to worry about getting ganked due to the high align time of under 2 seconds. I have yet to come across someone that attempted to gank me at a gate in high sec when flying one, and you can also reliably haul cargo in it through low sec while fitting a shield tank that can tank smartbomb camps you come across. You can also fit a Sunesis to give it a reasonable cargohold capacity if you have good propulsion and ship agility skills to still get under 2 second align time, for an extremely safe method of hauling decent amounts of loot to a trade hub to sell.
A Neurus or a Sunesis are good candidates for hauling because they also don't require much in the way of skills to pilot well, and are generally the safest options for hauling. A Nereus is the only Tech 1 hauler that I generally feel comfortable hauling stuff with, because you can tank 3 or 4 ganking cruisers pretty reliably in it (tanking skills can allow you to tank more potentially, such as maxed out shield skills and maxed out Mechanics skill for more structure HP).
You can use a Miasmos for gathering up mined ores from high sec mining belts, which is the only other tech 1 hauler I've really used for anything. It has a paper thin tank, but since you're not looking to stay in an asteroid belt for very long you can generally avoid being ganked with it since you just gather up the ores then warp back to a player owned station in the same system.
Thank you for all the tips! Finding the right hauler and fitting it correctly is such an interesting problem to tackle. No pun intended. For me it’s mostly a Sunesis and T1 indies sometimes. Maybe some BR soon! If you mouse over a module, click the small arrow icon to remove it
I use a prorator myself for most of my hauling, with hyperspatial nullifier and warp stab, in addition in mid i use a ECM burst, that combination has gotten myself trough most if not all gatecamps and other hairy situations. If you want to do serious hauling, train for a blockade runner, its never a waste and there also relatively cheap
great vid. dont forget about stuff like giant secure containers and their smaller versions.
if you could get that stratios to 3000m3 even you can use a GSC to expand to 3900 m3 which lets you haul a mining barge lol. its approx +30% rounded down to the interger value of how many secure containers u can fit
not sure how to get those last few m3, maybe theres an implant or faction mod thats not too spendy?
back in the old days everyone did this coz all the haulers sucked lol
Very nicely done and a great video! Only thing I would have liked to see is the last and in my opinion "best" hauling ship. It is the one you don't fly but the one who accepted your courier contract XD. People fly stuff so ridicilously cheap in this game that I don't even bother anymore to fly stuff myself. Most of the time it is a waste of time and money and "if" you get killed it is even worse. I lost in my eve life so far a JF, a freighter, 4 viators and I don't count epithals or other t1 haulers. But if I add that all up I can pay for another 15 eve years the reward fees for the courier contracts (I did the math based on my hauling needs) with zero risk. Unless public couriers form a union or go on general strike or something I am going to stick with this method because it let's me keep doing things that makes a lot of isk while others fly my stuff around fur stupidly low wages.
good video, few notes.
first... no tier 1 haulers? When I first started playing, the Wreathe was my bread and butter; I did hundreds of high-sec runs using the mwd-cloak trick and was never ganked. As the months passed, I was hauling up to a billion isk at a time. Eventually I trained into the Prowler but still found myself using my Wreathe fleet. They're practically the same ship; Wreathe just requires more diligence to run safely and the Prowler is a bit better in low-sec. You mention in the video that getting de-cloaked in a BR can be a death sentence- This is very true and I was ganked in a Prowler once after getting decloaked hauling through low-sec (loot fairy said no though lmao). Fortunately my loss was only ~2-3bn ISK. It is INSANE to me that you would haul 20bn isk in ANY ship... but maybe I'm just more risk-adverse. That would make a pretty funny killmail. Lately in Uedema, I've been seeing gankers park 3-4 drones by warp gates with the sole intent of breaking cloak; cloak is nice but it is no substitute for fast align/warp.
Next... No Orca? Nice tanky hull with DCM and bulkheads, can sprinkle some shields on top of that, fast align/warp when using MWD... (MUCH faster than haulers) Relatively low skill requirements... Very versatile and great ship for high-sec hauling. Granted, things have changed a lot in the past few years and Orcas are almost double the price they were when I was playing EvE more heavily in 2018-2019, but they have their niche and you can generally haul
Just putting this out there: m3 = cubic metre (its a unit of volume measurement).
Eh ... It depends on what you're doing.
I've got some characters - who are miners - that mostly use a Miasmos for hauling ore. That is the hauler they use most of the time - because - most of the time they are hauling - they are hauling ore.
But - sometimes they are not hauling ore - and the Miasmos has a pitiful cargo hold.
So - they use a Wraith for that - because they got this Wraith for free doing Career Agent Missions - and it does the job. I've thought about getting a better hauler but ... I don't really use one that often. I've got a Ships Hangar full of ships I don't use - because I got them somehow - like doing Career Agent Missions - and have no need for them.
Every now and again - I have to make two trips with the Wraith ... and every time that happens I start thinking about buying a better hauler but ... at the moment - it's easier to just make two trips with the Wraith than go to the trouble to buy and fit a better ship - all so I don't have to make two short trips in a Wraith ...
If that happened a lot - I'd certainly get a better general purpose hauler - but it doesn't. Not with what I'm doing.
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Lol, that cat watching mouse tv. Awesome vid, long live the cat!
I like the minmatar haulers because they are faster to align, prowler
Fantastic, great guide!
Mastodon is the best dst by far. with warp accelerators and hyperspacials its fast enough and theres plenty of room for faction tank mods. if you can align, cloak, mwd, decloak and jump right its stupid hard to catch too.
i love your passion on EVE....
occator is the best hauler, i run 4 of them all the time throughout lowsec. just make sure theres no maulus navy issue or hics and you should be fine
I use my blockade runner as a shuttle. They are so handy.
I have 2 blockade runners, one set up exclusively for in system use and one to take smaller high value stuff to the hub. Just bought a freighter to mainly haul ore or excess tritainium. When the freighter Flys it usually has stuff I manufactured in the hold too. One slow trip beats the heck out of a LOT of fast trips.
I see your nifty little “pretty much impossible to catch” sunesis……😃
And I raise you 12 smartbombing Rokhs🧐
You forgot warp speed lows for freighters. They are worse than inertial lows if solo but they make trips faster if you're webbing the freighter. Particularly long ones.
I like putting a probe launcher on my Blockade Runner so I can navigate Wormholes! I have only lost my crane by getting caught in drag bubbles filled with frigate swarms.
great vid!
Hi Neka. At 6:03 because I know I'm not the only one that waits for the cat to show up :-)
Very nice, thank you!
Glad you like it!
This info is very good, tyvm for the same
Hi man, congratulations, do you have anyvideo about jumping with Rhea, for exemplo? to nembies learning the process
Very helpfull, thanks
alright! let’s dive into this.
Gone too early. RIP
Can't use the MWD-cloak trick with a Bowhead. No high slots to fit a cloak. Also, a blops will work in place of a JF for low-volume/high-value stuff, in more situations as it can fit a cloak and jump to covert cynos.
you can use the standard mwd trick though it makes you align in 10 seconds
@@HateLesSGaming True dat.
Did they change how WCS work? I thought the ship base was 1, each WCS added 1 and in order to warp you needed at least 1 warp strength. So if I have 3 (two WCS and the ship base of 1) a faction scram (-3) will catch you because your ship's effective warp core strength is 0.
Yes, they changed them. You can only have 1 module now and it give 2 warp core stability when activated. I believe it starts activated for 10 seconds or so but also has a cooldown.
A Friend used a crane and the moment he docked in jita he was shot down ^^
The one that fits the situation.
Rest in Peace.
Short answer, the crane.
You look alot like my buddy that died a bunch of years ago. Bro was my brother. His last name was Loveless. Thought it was interesting you call your channel hateless and look like him.
Can you make good ISK these days hauling in EVE?
24:45 What would it take to even kill 1 of those in high-sec? Even if u are alone and lets say 20 Catalysts jump ontop of u with an average dps of 500 each. That average out to 10k dps for the entire fleet and it would still take them around 45 sec to kill u. Are Concord really that slow that even in a ship that tanky u still are at risk of a 20 ship strong ganker fleet? I get that not all gankers use a Catalyst but still it brings up the question of how long is Concords responds time when u still feel in danger in highsec running this.
I use a Sunesis to cook my dope. People love to catch me with fresh dope.
looks like the cat done some work on your mic;)
Why are you moving anything around anyways? Like stuff from a site and you want it moved to home base?
TWO inertia stabs can even be fitted on a brand new alpha char. So skills? Not really
I can show you a T1 Hauler that can work to haul in and is as fast as a DST
o0 interesting
sub 50m 7km3
[Iteron Mark V, Iteron Mark V]
Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Warp Core Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Power Diagnostic System II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Interdiction Nullifier I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Oh my god kiss that cat
hard to tell where your beard ends and your mic starts
minor update... alphas cant cloak
Hello it`s not CTRL+F it`s ALT+F ^^
Brother, I'm just curious. You DO know that 'm3' is cubic meters, right?? No offense intended.
well yea i just say m3 because its easier then saying cubic meters alot of people in game use m3 as well
@@HateLesSGaming Well! Thanks for the reply. It's rare I get a content creator who replies! I've enjoyed your videos so much that I subbed last night. I played EVE for 11 years solid and stopped 3 years ago when CODE just made it too much of a pain in the ass to play in hi-sec anymore. Here's a fun fact for ya: I was doing some math (cuz I'm bored) and the Prorator does 3.7 quadrillion miles per second with a whopping 347 million g's of acceleration force? Heh, I used to do all these calc's when playing just for some fun. Plus, I'd answer gankers with these same fun facts, when they'd try to extract tears after a particularly painful suicide gank, lol!
Eve isn't called 'spreadsheets in space' for nothing, you know!
@@itsjustme8947 yea I find joy in learning new things and building wealth I ended up moving to null life makes more sense out there
Also check the description for the discord we do help you learn to deal with gankers and what not
@@HateLesSGaming I could deal with them, it's just that they were so damned annoying, lol! Question: Is CODE still in business?? Still selling 'mining permits' for hisec? I swear most of those jagoffs were just griefers. At least gankers exist to make money and I can appreciate that....to a degree.
I promise I'm not going to try and take up your time with conversation. I've been away from EVE for 3 years and probably won't go back, but it's nice to take a walk down memory lane occasionally, AND to see what's changed in the last few years.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to shoot the bull with an old fart, lol!
9mil for a Sunesis? I don't think so. Try 24mil
the sooner star citizen is released and rips the ass out of this game the sooner ccp might wake up eve is sleep walking to the end greed is king eve is broken devs are lazy the game is old and look it
Star citizen is a joke, but I do agree with you on the rest.
Miss you man. RIP
Do not waste your time or money on this game. It is full of cheaters and the game makers do nothing about it.
Explain