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In the F104 I noticed the ‘Slow’ warning light was illuminated during your climb. …..”Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back”
With no external loads or just Aim-9s the F-104's top speed was limited by those factors. Also, the fixed shock cones were optimized for speeds around M1.6+. For one high altitude / high speed attempt the pilot got some waivers (compressor inlet temperature, aluminum hull temperature) plus some airframe modifications. E.g. modified shock cones for higher speeds. Unofficial speed record: around Mach 2.5.
@@slowhornet4802 technically the F104 limits were induced by compressor temperature as the air induced so much drag that the temperature was going above the safe limits: alloy technology was not upt to the task yet, but you really can appreciate how amazing the plane was an an interceptor. Larger and heavier planes struggle to get to speed due to aerodynamic drag, but not the 104
@Zumzifero Yes, exactly. And it had a fixed cone to generate the oblique shock waves. No complicated ramp systems or movable cone. I read initial F-104s (A-C models) required 10-15 hours maintenance per flight hour, and this did not change much when the aircraft got older. G model was more complex and required more hours.
....Also please somebody make a "Zero-length launch" rocket booster for the F-104 Starfighter mod, so that the Starfighter can take off instantly vertically and get to altitude faster! (Some West German Starfighters had those:)
It didn't matter the engine was modeled to cut out at altitude. I talked to the mod maker and sent them some references of altitude and performance from the past. they will look into it and possibly tweak the model in the future.
IIRC, this scenario, or at least fairly close did play out in the Middle East in the 70's, in which stripped down MiG-25 reconnaissance versions were doing overflights of American allies in the region. F-4's were scrambled to try and intercept these spyplanes, but to no avail, the MiG's were too fast and the F-4 could not reach a viable intercept. This helped lead to the active deployment of the F-15 (which was developed to counter the MiG-25's fictitious capabilities, such as it supposedly being a very agile fighter plane) in the area. These F-15 reinforcements could make that climb and get missiles on target. This is what earned the F-15 the reputation as a "Foxbat killer." This is me remembering old aviation articles I read somewhere near 10 years ago. If I mixed up a detail or forgot something, I'm sorry.
Irony is the Foxbat with Acrid missiles very nearly downed an F15 in Iraq, the medium range IR R-40TD missile homed and hit but the damage wasnt enough to bring down the f15, it limped back to a friendly airfield on 1 engine. but took extensive damage. That is also why the F35's limited missile payload is a big problem when large, split engine//2 engine designs are inherently difficult to bring down, even when hit by a missile with a fairly large warhead because the R40 has "up to" 100kg payload, the AMRAAM only has ~18.2kg , which gives some idea of just what that F15 survived.
From a weaponeering standpoint you have a bit of an issue. Even being at +Mach you’re still ~30k feet below the target, and that does not account for lateral travel. The burn rate in something you can launch from anything available in DCS will not support a 5 mile climb and chase of something that’s moving that fast. This moves beyond the realm of Super Sonic.
F104 Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back
I can't help but notice that as you reach your closest intercept point with the aircraft, your bank to resume track is always pointing your radar away from the target. This is also exactly when you're trying to get a lock. There's no point in turning right - after that's he's already past you, and the radar needs to look at a target that would actually be DOWNWARD in your right-banked turn, while you actually have the radar set to scan high. I'd just do a straight intercept and lock him up as he passes over the nose (maybe a SLIGHT turn to prolong the lock-up time available) but I would think that might help in a case where you have no visual reference.
Any heat seeking missile that can do Mach 4+ would be able to catch the Blackbird. The hard part would be getting a lock when it's already doing Mach 3.2.
I recall an F 106 burning up an engine, but did reach a U-2 as directed in a War Game. I would think a Mig 25 could do it if everything went perfect. Of course, some Egytain pilot burnt up a Mig 25 engine running at Mach 3 + getting away from Israil jets coming up for him. He might not have the fuel to travel very far from base and do the climb.
When using the star fighter, maintain you max altitude with engines, intercept and align with the track ahead of the sr71 and let it overtake you. As it approaches, you at max speed, nose up, close the altitude gap on kinetic energy , forget about the engines, lock, fire, fall back to earth, restart the engine around 40k, go home and have a cuddle.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again We're making human sacrifices to take down this SR - the dictator isn't ready to show the world his immaculate new in ground pool just yet
And this is why Genie/Super Falcon were developed and AIM-47 nearly had a W42 in it. The F-108 was cancelled, F-12 never got out of the Ys, and the closest thing to giving enough performance for the task, possibly, would be a modified B-58 Hustler on high altitude patrol... AN/ASG-18 from the 108 program ended up in them anyways. Sticking hard enough to the 80's to not allow AIM-120?
So are you guys just doing one trial and deducing from that one trial that it isnt possible? If so I would genuinely want you to practice and try to optimize your closure and see how well you can realistically intercept as if you were trained for it.
Well these are made for entertainment first, this video is already just under 40 minutes in length after editing. I'm sure they don't want to invest their lives into this lol
If a 71 was coming down the coast ground radar would have tracked the entire time. I would like to see you take off with full fuel well ahead of the 71 and see how that works.
What about the NF-104A; an F-104 with both an air breathing J79 and a Rocketdyne AR2-3 High test peroxide rocket engine putting out 6,000lbf of thrust. Also, this is the US, DAMNIT. If we strapped .50s to Piper Cubs during WWII, you can bet your rear end we'd strap missiles onto the Space Shuttle if needed.
I'm starting to think that the cancelation of the XB-70 Valkyrie may have been a bit premature. That thing had more or less similar performance as a Blackbird but could carry bombs. At the time it was thought that it would be too vulnerable to interception (and that ICBM's could do the strategic mission better). But this video shows just how thin the margins are when trying to intercept such an aircraft and that everything needs to go right to even get close. Even for a professional military (no disrespect to GR, but you know) it would not be an easy task to defend against it.
With the 104 you need to have more speed before climbing. It's easy to maintain speed in a climb in that plane but only if you have speed. The slower you go the more it lacks in performance overall. Think of it as a mini sr 71. If you did that climb from 45k after getting to over 700+ knots, ideally closer to 1000, you'd be up at 60-65k and well over mach
Simba has a much better tactic when it comes to climbing. F 16 is perfect example. You are slightly ahead but he has more height and speed and is on par with intercept angle.
Try one with air patrol intercepting it. Say you already had f15s up on patrol and radar picked up the blackbird. Can you find it in time and shoot it down with the slower missiles?
Those intercepts were at or below 65,000 feet, and concorde was mach 2 capable, u2 is waay subsonic. Totally different kettle of fish to a mach 3.3 85k feet intercept
@@thephantom2man You may want to watch this video by Mark Felton a good source of information. Apparently a lightning achieved an altitude of 88000 feet when intercepting a U2 which it passed and continued climbing. It as also apparently the only aircraft that managed to catch a BA concorde during an excercise including many of the types mentioned. Yes it is slower than th SR but potentially more capable than the other aircraft given a go. Surely worth a try ??
@@woolyimage ive watched it and am well aware of xr749, but xr749 was an f.3 with the smaller ventral tank, the avon 301R's, and the adens deleted, and was literally the fastest of all lightnings. Thing is, when it got up there and lost speed, it compresser stalled and flamed out (lightnings were known to above 50,000 feet) which wouldnt of helped, anf the red tops and firestreaks would no chance of been able to shoot down a blackbird, both being rear aspect only missiles, and both had quite short ranges, and a max speed of around mach 2.5.. so could a lightning of got up there? Yes, broadly speaking in a very specific set of circumstances, for a very short window.. but could a lightning of actually intercepted, got a lock and successfully fired and hit the blackbird? No chance
F106 was one of the jets that would chase and cruise to 70k ft according to a lot of reports. I know it was a photo plane for the sr at altitude because the six had a light enough wing loading to do so
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Why are you doing a T intercept. By the time you get a lock with these plane’s radars the sr 71 is in front of you and going away at twice the speed of the missiles and you can’t chase an sr 71. If you launch the missiles before the merge they don’t have to chase the plane.
what the simulation shows is exactly what happened in reality: missiles fired in anger but the SR-71 just laughs at it while at 25km+ altitude and going faster than a speeding bullet...
the rocket motor attempt you were referring to got to 120+. the one I made reference to was not rocket assisted thats why I referenced it and not the 120+ record. Cheers
When the F-15 shot down a satellite in the early 80's did they use onboard radar? That would be an interesting sim. Likely you can't put orbital velocities and altitudes in DCS. 17,400 MPH and 120 miles altitude are typical.
@Counter Air So some soft of GCI to release, then I would imagine an old fashioned ground based GNC on the ground with radio link to the SRAM booster, and then IR sensor on the KV for the terminal phase.
So the Fighter Viggen was the only plane to get an aknowledged Blackbird intercept. I wonder in the US, how many training attempts were made to intercept the Blackbirds. Because if you look at the figures, in theory it could be done, but the SR-71 had ECM and at that speed any turn would massively change the intercept angle. Not to mention it was relatively stealthy. Maybe that was modeled in the Mod
Could you do this intercept with non-Russian European aircraft like the Dassault Rafale, Saab JAS 39 Gripen, and Eurofighter Typhoon? I think those aircraft armed with MBDA Meteors could potentially do the intercept.
At those altitudes, how can the missiles track and turn, they most likely would not have the ability to steer do to the thin air and small flight surfaces.
Hi Cap Quick question Are glove vanes visible on the DCS F-14A models? Fun fact: they moved the aerodynamic center forward, as the plane was to stable with folded wings. The were subsequently made inoperable and not implemented on the F-14B, as flight control system improvements made them redundant.
As I"m watching I'm thinking the F14/Phoenix would have the best chance. I would like to see an F106/Genie.. I guess that is why I'm not in charge of stuff :)
Is there any way to turn down the sonic boom in exterior? As fun as it is, we do so many exterior flybys in these videos that is quite annoying to hear a billion booms. Otherwise, I'll just go STFU in the corner lol
f-16 is the only one that... could possible have a chance of doing better at this than the mig-31 - which in turn just barely almsot made it f-15 too I kindof overlooked that was even in here at first but none of the older ones
At the altitude the SR 71 cruises at none would be able to intercept it. At that high of an altitude pilots would need some sort of a space suit as the SR 71 pilots wear. Your G-suits would be of little comfort much less of any use. Only plane that could intercept it is another SR 71. In 85-86 time frame an F-15 was sent up to shoot out of orbit a satellite using a laser. The pilot was fitted with a special suit that would allow him to get high enough to accomplish that task. I was stationed at the Satellite test facility in Calf. and we were tracking both the F-15 and the satellite as this was occurring. Mission accomplished........
@@grimreapers nope. RS.-71. Eisenhower when announcing the plane to the world said it SR-71 instead of RS-71. The Air Force generals felt it was easier to change the name then correct the President.
Problem with the Blackbird intercepts blackbird is the inherent fact that Blackbirds couldn't take off loaded with fuel. They leak fluids while on the ground .. They take off and immediately have to refuel, to even think about achieving mission..
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In the F104 I noticed the ‘Slow’ warning light was illuminated during your climb. …..”Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back”
Wow thanks! Had no idea
With no external loads or just Aim-9s the F-104's top speed was limited by those factors. Also, the fixed shock cones were optimized for speeds around M1.6+.
For one high altitude / high speed attempt the pilot got some waivers (compressor inlet temperature, aluminum hull temperature) plus some airframe modifications. E.g. modified shock cones for higher speeds.
Unofficial speed record: around Mach 2.5.
@@slowhornet4802 technically the F104 limits were induced by compressor temperature as the air induced so much drag that the temperature was going above the safe limits: alloy technology was not upt to the task yet, but you really can appreciate how amazing the plane was an an interceptor.
Larger and heavier planes struggle to get to speed due to aerodynamic drag, but not the 104
@Zumzifero Yes, exactly. And it had a fixed cone to generate the oblique shock waves. No complicated ramp systems or movable cone. I read initial F-104s (A-C models) required 10-15 hours maintenance per flight hour, and this did not change much when the aircraft got older. G model was more complex and required more hours.
@@Leptospirosi It was an engine with minimal wings. If you ever saw one fly at an airshow you know how impressive this little fighter was.
....Also please somebody make a "Zero-length launch" rocket booster for the F-104 Starfighter mod, so that the Starfighter can take off instantly vertically and get to altitude faster! (Some West German Starfighters had those:)
WHAT?? SOURCE NOW THATS AMAZING
@@finkyfamboni4333 ua-cam.com/video/75qnxMd1YSY/v-deo.html
F-104 Komet II :)
@@svenboelling5251 holy fucking shit thats amazing
that shit is amazing
7:06 SuperCap ignores the SLOW! down warning lights...
And 30 seconds later wonders why the engine cutout...😏😁🤣
I bet they modelled it to melt the front compressor disk like the real thing when you go past mach 2
@@unclejoeoakland Yup, that's what I was thinking also...
Damn! I thought for once I was getting in first with an intelligent comment but you must have posted while I was still writing. 😢
It didn't matter the engine was modeled to cut out at altitude. I talked to the mod maker and sent them some references of altitude and performance from the past. they will look into it and possibly tweak the model in the future.
Ah, yes I seemed to have missed that sign...
IIRC, this scenario, or at least fairly close did play out in the Middle East in the 70's, in which stripped down MiG-25 reconnaissance versions were doing overflights of American allies in the region. F-4's were scrambled to try and intercept these spyplanes, but to no avail, the MiG's were too fast and the F-4 could not reach a viable intercept.
This helped lead to the active deployment of the F-15 (which was developed to counter the MiG-25's fictitious capabilities, such as it supposedly being a very agile fighter plane) in the area.
These F-15 reinforcements could make that climb and get missiles on target. This is what earned the F-15 the reputation as a "Foxbat killer."
This is me remembering old aviation articles I read somewhere near 10 years ago. If I mixed up a detail or forgot something, I'm sorry.
And there was a scale model set by Revell in 1/48 scale where both planes are included in the kit. I have the F-15 half of that kit.
Irony is the Foxbat with Acrid missiles very nearly downed an F15 in Iraq, the medium range IR R-40TD missile homed and hit but the damage wasnt enough to bring down the f15, it limped back to a friendly airfield on 1 engine. but took extensive damage. That is also why the F35's limited missile payload is a big problem when large, split engine//2 engine designs are inherently difficult to bring down, even when hit by a missile with a fairly large warhead because the R40 has "up to" 100kg payload, the AMRAAM only has ~18.2kg , which gives some idea of just what that F15 survived.
From a weaponeering standpoint you have a bit of an issue. Even being at +Mach you’re still ~30k feet below the target, and that does not account for lateral travel. The burn rate in something you can launch from anything available in DCS will not support a 5 mile climb and chase of something that’s moving that fast.
This moves beyond the realm of Super Sonic.
we need more fuel updates as fuel consumption is critical during a simulated, one-way mission!
F104
Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back
I can't help but notice that as you reach your closest intercept point with the aircraft, your bank to resume track is always pointing your radar away from the target. This is also exactly when you're trying to get a lock. There's no point in turning right - after that's he's already past you, and the radar needs to look at a target that would actually be DOWNWARD in your right-banked turn, while you actually have the radar set to scan high. I'd just do a straight intercept and lock him up as he passes over the nose (maybe a SLIGHT turn to prolong the lock-up time available) but I would think that might help in a case where you have no visual reference.
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F-4 and F-104 look great. Looking forward to the updated F-104 mod. Such an amazing aircraft. High fidelity module would be so great.
Any heat seeking missile that can do Mach 4+ would be able to catch the Blackbird. The hard part would be getting a lock when it's already doing Mach 3.2.
Don't climb as high as possible. Get as fast as possible then zoom at the end
I recall an F 106 burning up an engine, but did reach a U-2 as directed in a War Game. I would think a Mig 25 could do it if everything went perfect. Of course, some Egytain pilot burnt up a Mig 25 engine running at Mach 3 + getting away from Israil jets coming up for him. He might not have the fuel to travel very far from base and do the climb.
When using the star fighter, maintain you max altitude with engines, intercept and align with the track ahead of the sr71 and let it overtake you. As it approaches, you at max speed, nose up, close the altitude gap on kinetic energy , forget about the engines, lock, fire, fall back to earth, restart the engine around 40k, go home and have a cuddle.
Engine would be toast and you now have a lawn dart 🎯.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again We're making human sacrifices to take down this SR - the dictator isn't ready to show the world his immaculate new in ground pool just yet
AIM-54 Phoenix is the only missle that can do this, Mig 25 overflights of Iran stopped when the US sold them the F-14
And this is why Genie/Super Falcon were developed and AIM-47 nearly had a W42 in it. The F-108 was cancelled, F-12 never got out of the Ys, and the closest thing to giving enough performance for the task, possibly, would be a modified B-58 Hustler on high altitude patrol... AN/ASG-18 from the 108 program ended up in them anyways.
Sticking hard enough to the 80's to not allow AIM-120?
SuperCap forgetting to turn on the Master Arm is such a SuperCap thing to do.
yup!
I get the rules, but for realism, wouldn’t the F-14s start in CAP at FL35 or so?
Yup the f14s speed plus those phoenix missles.
So are you guys just doing one trial and deducing from that one trial that it isnt possible? If so I would genuinely want you to practice and try to optimize your closure and see how well you can realistically intercept as if you were trained for it.
Well these are made for entertainment first, this video is already just under 40 minutes in length after editing. I'm sure they don't want to invest their lives into this lol
U should try vertical scan mode on the f15c with the sparrow
rgr
F-16 ftw! Pretty much my favorite plane ever. And the WinWing F-16 throttle is FINALLY almost mine!! Hahaha
Should make a video with Canadian planes like the Avril arrow or the voodoo if there is even mods for them
You should do a video on the USAF X-15
rgr
There a reason they called it a starfighter 105,000 feet that impressive.
If a 71 was coming down the coast ground radar would have tracked the entire time. I would like to see you take off with full fuel well ahead of the 71 and see how that works.
The Blackbird was not that easy to track. By the time it took to scramble jets it was already out of range
What about the NF-104A; an F-104 with both an air breathing J79 and a Rocketdyne AR2-3 High test peroxide rocket engine putting out 6,000lbf of thrust.
Also, this is the US, DAMNIT. If we strapped .50s to Piper Cubs during WWII, you can bet your rear end we'd strap missiles onto the Space Shuttle if needed.
@@stinkyfungus Fair enough. Then again, this is GR we're talking about here...
The moral is………..make sure you’re in the SR-71 😂
And to think I imagined Cap. doing a Viper deadstick exciting... all respect the engine stalled 104!
It's unfortunate that you can't put the 1984 AIM-135 ASAT on the F-15, that would have likely been the best choice for an intercept on the SR-71.
I cringed, thank you
cool
Please oh please somebody make a CF-105 Avro Arrow mod for DCS (and shoot down that damn SR-71;)
lol id love to see an ee lightning have a pop at this
I'm starting to think that the cancelation of the XB-70 Valkyrie may have been a bit premature. That thing had more or less similar performance as a Blackbird but could carry bombs. At the time it was thought that it would be too vulnerable to interception (and that ICBM's could do the strategic mission better).
But this video shows just how thin the margins are when trying to intercept such an aircraft and that everything needs to go right to even get close. Even for a professional military (no disrespect to GR, but you know) it would not be an easy task to defend against it.
Cap: 'ooo they are smoky engines'
F-4 Phantom's engines:[becomes perfectly stoichiometric]
That was so dang exciting!
i like how you call me a _valued viewer_ ! Thank you!
We call the viewers "Valued Viewers" because they are valued to us.
@@grimreapers corrected! Thank you!
With the 104 you need to have more speed before climbing. It's easy to maintain speed in a climb in that plane but only if you have speed. The slower you go the more it lacks in performance overall. Think of it as a mini sr 71. If you did that climb from 45k after getting to over 700+ knots, ideally closer to 1000, you'd be up at 60-65k and well over mach
P.s. you guys do this a lot. You really need to be gaining more energy before these climbs in these types of intercepts
Simba has a much better tactic when it comes to climbing. F 16 is perfect example. You are slightly ahead but he has more height and speed and is on par with intercept angle.
***sorry more speed but so much more he'll still be faster with a 20-30 degree climb to get to your point from where he is.
How do you spect to shoot a mach 3 Sr71 with aim9??? The sidewinder max speed is mach 2,5
Try one with air patrol intercepting it. Say you already had f15s up on patrol and radar picked up the blackbird. Can you find it in time and shoot it down with the slower missiles?
What about that lightning that intercepted Concorde ? Also got the U2
Those intercepts were at or below 65,000 feet, and concorde was mach 2 capable, u2 is waay subsonic. Totally different kettle of fish to a mach 3.3 85k feet intercept
@@thephantom2man You may want to watch this video by Mark Felton a good source of information. Apparently a lightning achieved an altitude of 88000 feet when intercepting a U2 which it passed and continued climbing. It as also apparently the only aircraft that managed to catch a BA concorde during an excercise including many of the types mentioned. Yes it is slower than th SR but potentially more capable than the other aircraft given a go. Surely worth a try ??
+1 on the lightning. Amazing speed to climb, high ceiling, respectable top speed….. just a few issues with fuel consumption
@@woolyimage ive watched it and am well aware of xr749, but xr749 was an f.3 with the smaller ventral tank, the avon 301R's, and the adens deleted, and was literally the fastest of all lightnings. Thing is, when it got up there and lost speed, it compresser stalled and flamed out (lightnings were known to above 50,000 feet) which wouldnt of helped, anf the red tops and firestreaks would no chance of been able to shoot down a blackbird, both being rear aspect only missiles, and both had quite short ranges, and a max speed of around mach 2.5.. so could a lightning of got up there? Yes, broadly speaking in a very specific set of circumstances, for a very short window.. but could a lightning of actually intercepted, got a lock and successfully fired and hit the blackbird? No chance
What about a 106? It was made for high intercept. Load it with AIR-2A Genie
F106 was one of the jets that would chase and cruise to 70k ft according to a lot of reports. I know it was a photo plane for the sr at altitude because the six had a light enough wing loading to do so
If any, the F15 E with one of those new Aim260 loaded
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Fun stuff! Thanks guys ;)
Grim:"uses the other version of the blackbird"
Me:"YF,YF VS YF"
My brain:"*melts to mush*
also me:"why?"
3:39 I am surprised how small the F-104 is! They called it "the missile with a man" for a reason!
Can a A-12 intercept a SR-71 o0...have you done the Greenly F-22 mod with AIMM 120 D's in this intercept yet ?
didnt see the end 8)
This is the video I've been waiting for after watching the Soviet version. Great video once again and this series is great too!
Maybe an F-101 or F-106 with Genie rockets.
Thanks!👍👍
I wonder how the Mirage would do in this? the super 530s seem really good in my experience with it.
is this mission available for us to dl and have a pop at?
msg me privately and ill send over but dont want to post public
Why are you doing a T intercept. By the time you get a lock with these plane’s radars the sr 71 is in front of you and going away at twice the speed of the missiles and you can’t chase an sr 71. If you launch the missiles before the merge they don’t have to chase the plane.
what the simulation shows is exactly what happened in reality: missiles fired in anger but the SR-71 just laughs at it while at 25km+ altitude and going faster than a speeding bullet...
7:15 that wasnt a stock starfighter. that had a rocket motor and rcs system strapped to it lol, it was a mini space shuttle
the rocket motor attempt you were referring to got to 120+. the one I made reference to was not rocket assisted thats why I referenced it and not the 120+ record. Cheers
When the F-15 shot down a satellite in the early 80's did they use onboard radar? That would be an interesting sim. Likely you can't put orbital velocities and altitudes in DCS. 17,400 MPH and 120 miles altitude are typical.
@Counter Air So some soft of GCI to release, then I would imagine an old fashioned ground based GNC on the ground with radio link to the SRAM booster, and then IR sensor on the KV for the terminal phase.
You know, an external view ONLY dogfight would be fun to watch. Say start at 10k feet, and watch external from the merge.
Was actually just thinking about that.
Your sounds for sonic booms are different from what I’m used to hearing in DCS. Are you using sound mods?
Yeh installed a new mp3 for the boom only
@@grimreapers roger
So the Fighter Viggen was the only plane to get an aknowledged Blackbird intercept.
I wonder in the US, how many training attempts were made to intercept the Blackbirds. Because if you look at the figures, in theory it could be done, but the SR-71 had ECM and at that speed any turn would massively change the intercept angle. Not to mention it was relatively stealthy. Maybe that was modeled in the Mod
Would love to see a YF-23 intercepting the Blackbird.
agree
Could you do this intercept with non-Russian European aircraft like the Dassault Rafale, Saab JAS 39 Gripen, and Eurofighter Typhoon? I think those aircraft armed with MBDA Meteors could potentially do the intercept.
Yup that will be the 3rd vid,
@@grimreapers Awesome! :)
you should try to get into a superstall again but with the 104. i'd love to see if it works
At those altitudes, how can the missiles track and turn, they most likely would not have the ability to steer do to the thin air and small flight surfaces.
Hi Cap
Quick question
Are glove vanes visible on the DCS F-14A models?
Fun fact: they moved the aerodynamic center forward, as the plane was to stable with folded wings. The were subsequently made inoperable and not implemented on the F-14B, as flight control system improvements made them redundant.
Will investigate
SR-71ski Almost spit coffee on my computer with that one.
As I"m watching I'm thinking the F14/Phoenix would have the best chance.
I would like to see an F106/Genie.. I guess that is why I'm not in charge of stuff :)
The 104 held all the records before the sr71 she should be able to do it
Why no wing tip sidewinders on the 104 ?
BAC Lightning?
Possible, but you'd have to eyeball it like a pro billiards player. ;D
agree
Try a B-1B lancer with a really fast missile in the bay...
Could it carry any missiles?
Can You add few SA-5 SAM sites and run the mission?
yup
Can the Blackbird see you coming? If so, is it not just a matter of veering away from the interceptors to escape?
"I'm gonna concentrate on getting high pretty quickly" XD
F-106 enters the chat
F-106 Delta Dart firing a AIR-2 Genie missile?
... (air to air 1.5 kt nuclear tipped missile;)
Is there any way to turn down the sonic boom in exterior? As fun as it is, we do so many exterior flybys in these videos that is quite annoying to hear a billion booms. Otherwise, I'll just go STFU in the corner lol
do a zoom climb and you will get the black bird with a 54 fired mad dog from a tomcat
agree
Have you seen the USAF new Rapid Dragon delivery system. Absolutely devastating .
could you do this again with the newly updated F-16 mod cap?
rgr
QUESTION: Did u ever figure out what the "RT" meant on the TID for the newest beta update?
Yes guy in comments researched it, tho currently not working as it turns out.
@@grimreapers thx for replying man. Not all youtube Creators do... 😎🙏💪💯
f-16 is the only one that... could possible have a chance of doing better at this than the mig-31 - which in turn just barely almsot made it
f-15 too I kindof overlooked that was even in here at first
but none of the older ones
Don't what I am missing here. But the F-4 and F-14 are faster than the F-16.
climb rate is more important here i think
Nice video 👍
At the altitude the SR 71 cruises at none would be able to intercept it. At that high of an altitude pilots would need some sort of a space suit as the SR 71 pilots wear. Your G-suits would be of little comfort much less of any use. Only plane that could intercept it is another SR 71. In 85-86 time frame an F-15 was sent up to shoot out of orbit a satellite using a laser. The pilot was fitted with a special suit that would allow him to get high enough to accomplish that task. I was stationed at the Satellite test facility in Calf. and we were tracking both the F-15 and the satellite as this was occurring. Mission accomplished........
Vid Title: "REALISTIC SR-71 Blackbird Intercept"
2nd intercept Aircraft: An F4 with an F15 cockpit
Me: ...
37min video,
you : 5342 words
Simba: 7
this begs the question, can ANYTHING intercept the blackbird?
Next vids uses modern weapons.
I think without a doubt before even watching this that the f15 could do it since i know it shot a satellite down before
I feel that the Tomcat still could if reconfigured
yes BUT need a good RIO to do that.
I wonder how the F-106 Delta Dart would do in real life.
put up a B58 hustler and a XB-70 chaser match
Avro Arrow could probably catch the Blackbird. Not sure about the Hughes Falcon missile though. Arrow was also designed to take the Sparrow I too.
And where, pray tell, is the trusty EE Lightning?
Awwww awesome! Seems I inspired a whole series!! 😁
Apparently so... x
@@grimreapers but that means more SR71. everyone is a 🏆 winner!
With the 104, you’re proximity to the ground shortly after take off is worth noting. You about pancaked that craft
That had me cracking up LOL, quick pass to cut some grass
Do you know what the first name of the blackbird? And who changed the name?
Archangel or something similar?
@@grimreapers nope. RS.-71. Eisenhower when announcing the plane to the world said it SR-71 instead of RS-71. The Air Force generals felt it was easier to change the name then correct the President.
Problem with the Blackbird intercepts blackbird is the inherent fact that Blackbirds couldn't take off loaded with fuel. They leak fluids while on the ground .. They take off and immediately have to refuel, to even think about achieving mission..
Perhaps you can try it with actual fighter pilots and see what they do.
agree
SR71: laughs in undefeated.
So next up is modern weapons and data link? Or perhaps an intercept form 10,000' above the airfield at loiter speed.
The final vid will be anything after 1984: F-14B, Link-16, ANRAAM etc etc
@@grimreapers looking forward to it!
Wasn't builders fixing roof... was the SR knocking on the top of the atmosphere.
agree