How You Can Live Forever... Maybe.
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- Cryonics is the practice of preserving a dead body or brain, in the hope of reanimation. But no one knows if that will ever happen!
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Rich people: Cryonics
Poor people: Cry on it
you can actually pay the $200k with life insurance
so the cost is not 'too bad'
Say that whenever somebody is brought back.
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 ermm ackshually 🤓 the 200k is for a duck, not a hooman.
Save money.
Most people's problem is that they don't save enough
Remember, the past and current cryogenics companies are scams to move money from the mega rich to the not That rich. Unplugging the machines when moving them, or when the electric bill is too high, is common practice. There is no real plans to taw the buried. The coolants used have been comical. It’s a sci-fi dream sold to to gullible with money. And I’m here for it. It May work in the future, but the businesses currently are about selling a dream, not something that can work. We know it does not. For future possibly working models the tech needs to be fundamentally reworked from the start, not just the end.
The true question is: would anyone in the future want you back? 😂
Who cares the whole point is to experience a new beginning
@@manyord7089No, he means will anyone want to bring you back to life at all, or just leave you in the cryo tube
I want people who I've never met, so yeah
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No, truthfully, most people don't realize that the people spending money on this now are the super rich. The super rich of the past would not be liked by the super rich of the present. By the time money is spent at high enough levels in medical research to raise the dead, we would have eaten up the rich. The super rich of the future would not want the super rich of today. Cryogenics is a scam of one rich group eating the other.
This video just made me realize that finding the cure to death isn't the problem. It's the likelihood of whatever business you choose will still be open.
Love ur pfp btw
There was a case where a cryonics pod lost power and when they discovered it, there was just a slushy mush of human brain (or brains? can't remember if it was multiple people) at the bottom...
@@MySmileStillStaysOn 😬that's my thought of will happen
@@MySmileStillStaysOn That can't be correct. The dewars that cryonics patients are stored in don't use electricity at all.
There were cases in the wild early days of cryonics in the 1960s, before perpetual funding models were developed, where mom & pop organizations went under and patients thawed with grisly results. However, that simply isn't cryonics organizations are built and funded anymore, and hasn't been in about 40 years.
@@Datan0de Cryonics industry has entered the chat
"You wouldn't upload a brain."
has the same energy as
"You wouldn't download a car."
Tis called a reference
Maybe watch Pantheon if you want to see a show about uploading brains
*Exagerately badass riff playing*
thatsthejoke.jpg
"You wouldn't duplicate a life-threatening disease. You wouldn't duplicate a kestrel." - David Firth, "Cream"
Duck - the most passionate volunteer ever
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I want to be in cryogenic hibernation by the time I’m 25-30
@@Goddessofcreation420 what if u dont wake up and dont even realize u are dead
Ducks will be the new meta
he's so cute :p
The damage caused by the process is about as bad and systemic as the damage caused by aging. If you have the ability to bring someone back from that state, you’ve likely cured every disease we’ve ever faced, aging included.
Actually as a side note it’s kinda crazy, medics that slow down the aging process tremendously are probably coming to markets earlier than you might think. Not that I actually think it’s a good idea but science made huge steps recently in that field. If you do some research you can find a lot of serious studies on that.
Can you use some information from the brain to "reconstruct" anything out of it as software, at least?
@@jongyon7192p Assuming it was preserved, I don’t see why not. If you can’t then you’re not really bringing anybody back, you’re just using bodies as scrap to make new humans. Which is probably more expensive than the usual way.
The same was said when someone’s heart stopped beating.
We now know that someone with a heart that has stopped beating can be brought back.
There’s no knowing what will be discovered and found out. But theres a chance it is discovered, the main issue I foresee for this is the lack of motivation to bring back ‘newly dead’ (preserved) people.
@@turtlecat3507 Right, once the corporation in question has milked tens of thousands of people of their money, and are starting to face maintenance costs on their cryo facilities that are only ever increasing, their incentive to cash out and walk away increases precipitously.
At a certain point in the future, they will walk away from their company with most of the money, and/or it will go bankrupt, and all the corpses will have to be disposed of by the civil entities of that time and place by whatever method seems most appropriate. Given the short term profit motives of modern capitalist industries the time horizon for this process should be expected to be quite short.
Fun fact: we can already do successful cryonics on small animals like hamsters. They freeze them instantly and then wake them back up in a microwave. We just can’t do it with humans because our bodies can’t fully freeze fast enough to not damage ourselves.
Here me out
A bigger freezer 🤷♀️
I can totally tell this is satire, aint no way someone would put a hamster in a microwave noooo :(
How long can the hamster be frozen for before waking them up? I think you can also do it kind of with flies. I saw a video where someone wanted to tie a leash on a fly and he froze them, tied a string around them and when they woke up they were on a “leash”
@@jonhard1049 Microwaves were invented by someone researching cryonics on hamsters, he needed an easy way to revive frozen hamsters so he invented the microwave.
Actually this works.
I did it with a chicken recently.
It didn't wake up.
But it was delicious.
"So it's either the _long sleep_ or the *long sleep* ."
Well, you're paying the company to preserve you, you're not paying anyone to revive you
Imagine waking up in the future and getting an average American medical bill for the reanimation procedure
@@ajh3461 imagine you only wake up if they check and you still have a high enough credit rating to afford the medical loan that they saddle you with for the medical treatment.
@@ajh3461 I hope it won't exist in the future.
@@ajh3461 You assume capitalism will be the default in the future :D
@@snarkyalyx It probably will. Out of the three big economic systems, capitalism is the most efficient.
In both socialism and communism, you're basically giving power to governments, and if history means anything, giving a group of people a lot of power means that they will abuse it. It all depends on which system you want to become poor in, because there will always be rich people, no matter the system.
The best economic system in my opinion is a mix of capitalism and socialism, because giving equal power to the people and government means that they balance out. There will always be rich and poor people, though, which is something you can't really fix.
Imagine if the company gets bankrupt 💀
Think it actually happened a couple of times. The remains ended up being buried. Don't expect any company to last even decades into the future.
Which it will. Suppose it take 300 years to invent the technology necessary. You really think you can keep your company going that long?
CryoRus in Moscow got into long conflict between founders, at some point one group of them tried to steel cryo barrels, during the chase they threw away some of them with graphic remains of human brains on the highway
Have you ever watched Idiocracy?
Money wasted 💀
Kurzgesagt should totally make a video on the immortal jellyfish. That thing's about as close to real immortality as you can find.
that thing is essentially just water tho. I find crocodiles and sharks more interesting in that regard
Any lifeform incapable of bitching about what Disney has done to Star Wars and Marvel franchises doesn't *deserve* a shot at immortality. 😏
I'm pretty sure if you chopped me into pieces that each one would form a new me.
There is a book, "We Are Legion (We Are Bob)" about a guy who gets his brain frozen and wakes up a hundred years later to learn he is the property of a government which is planning to turn him into a probe to explore the galaxy. Great series.
indeed, cant wait for part 5 to come out soon.
After all the work that these birds went through, Kurzgesagt definitely needs to give them a raise 😭
If they can afford a $200,000 ice coffin then they probably don’t, lol.
they should have paid more to the bird who got destoyed by nukes and gamma rays, tough work
they don't need a raise if they are frozen
Props to the camera man for recording that long too.
@@luigibiscaglio5915 props to him for surviving too
Cryonics STONKS 📈
????
Nice meme !
Infinite money 🤑🤑🤑
My fridge can already possess the same abilities as cryonics. In fact, 15 people have tested it and found it beneficial
Влаштуйся на роботу, отримай життя, більше жартів немає
український хлопець!!!
imagine waking up in 3,000 years and the last thing you remember was laying in a bed with no electricity in 1600
Kurzgesagt is just a modern animated VSauce now, change my mind.
Having to roll the dice on being revived in the future is rough
Well you're dead either way so might as well have a chance
I'll take a .005% chance of reanimation over a guaranteed 0% letting the worms or the fires get my body.
what's rougher is not being revived 100%
@@Danath1982tbh I'd rather give the money away to someone who actually needs it rather than play sci-fi
So what, you're dead anyway.
No no no no no.
See, if you really want to live forever, you just have to follow this one simple rule:
1. Don’t die
Instructions unclear, I now have 4 arms.
You are a genius dude
Teach me
Your ingeniousness knows no bounds.
Have you tried making a Harvard application?
Oh yeah
-Bryan Johnson
Shorts like this feel like trailers for longer videos of Kurz's. Which they simultaneously are and are not directly. I feel cheated and yet satisfied but also comforted in knowing I've already seen the longer length vid that doesn't exist. ❤
I loved the loop. How the end of this video stitches it back to the beginning. Great stuff. 👍
Pay to Die, now that sounds like a deal! 💰
If you pay someone to kill yourself, would that be murder or suicide 🤔
@@SMITESHSURESHyou would be responsible for your death but the guy you paid would still be a murderer
kurzgesagt said they (cryonics dudes) would take the dead body of person cuz what it counted as dead today would not be counted as dead in several centuries
@@SMITESHSURESH both
Someone call Dazai 😨
just stopping by for my weekly existential crisis
Who am I? What’s the purpose of my life?
1 - pay
2 - die
3 - ?
4 - profit
My teacher loves your channel and recommended that we (my class) should watch your videos. You make really great educational content!
Future scientists: "Congrats, we brought you back! But we were only able to save your brain. No, you dont have a body anymore, nor any inputs or outputs to communicate back with us. You're going to live forever as a brain in a jar as a household decoration. Enjoy an eternity of solitude with nothing but your own thoughts to keep you company!"
Doesn't make much sense for the scientists to just bring back brains to torture..
And we ever reach a point where we can revive a brain, then at that point body replacement would be trivial.
The computer game Soma is a great treatment of rude awakenings.
If this happen to me I will need a nura link chip
the closest family member you have was given notice of your return from cryonics (great great great great grand niece.) they are given an address to where the facility is.
they go there.
they find your cell.
all you feel is slight sparks of stimuli as you bounce around the jar where random parts of your brain are activated. not able to scream to anybody about your agony.
they take you to the prosthetic company from a really long time ago that used to sell normal prosthetics, but now is able to make sales on full prosthetic bodies. they put you on anesthesia, and you drift dormant. the next thing you know, you can feel. you can hear. you can move. the machine they have put your brain in appears "almost" like a normal human body. you get up, meet your GGGG-G-niece, and you get a bill.
two quadrillion dollars.
you're asked why you were mad at such cheap prices.
apparently, because of inflation, that is more like 200$ in 2024 money.
life goes on pretty normally from there.
some people judge you on how you look and think you're an AI and you have to explain to them, as you're one of the first people who had been woken up from cryonics.
you're payed only 70 million dollars per hour in your new job. minimum wage.
one day, you get into a car crash. all four of your limbs fly off. your body has no blood. you're just on the pavement in the middle of the night. you call out, but all the sound you can make is just static............... (someone else continue the story)
@@Arpit-kumar_"ze bluetoof devise has successfully c0nnected"
Kid named proton decay:
This is never gonna be possible as even with the body being seemingly frozen in time, its impossible to prevent degradation completely, just like how meat in a freezer changes despite being at the same temperature all the time.
Zamasu is taking notes rn
I liked the way this was addressed in "Transmetropolitan."
In the future, cryogenically-preserved people were revived, given fresh new bodies and sent on their way.
But since none of them had applicable job skills any more and since a lot of them got so freaked out by all the new technology , they ended up unhoused with PTSD just wandering in a daze.
Unhoused?
@@baw5xc333 Yes. If the revived people didn't have any living descendants who would take them in, they were turned out into the world. Since they didn't have any job skills or assets, most ended up living on the streets. There were shelters, but those were as low on resources as current shelters.
Apparently, people in the future still won't care if people without housing just die on the streets as long as their taxes don't go towards helping them.
The creator, Warren Ellis, really nails what a dystopian horror capitalism will produce.
For example, there are "make machines" that are like 3D printers that work on a molecular level. They can make you everything from a hot meal to a cellphone to a suit of clothes. They can make things using "base blocks" which are huge bricks of assorted matter or they can convert trash directly into new things.
The problem is, maker machines don't really produce a lot of trash so trash is hard to find. The poor can't afford to buy maker machines and they can't afford the monthly subscription fee to keep them operational. So the poor buy cheap mas-produced goods that still come in packaging. And people who can afford maker machines aren't likely to go picking up litter in poor neighborhoods.
@@baw5xc333 yea basically future hobos
@@baw5xc333 the Incorrect Term is "homeless"
@@HorseyWorsey tell me you have no empathy for unhoused people without telling me you have no empathy for unhoused people
Can you guys a make a dedicated video on the theory of relativity?
That would be amazing.
They don't make anything in detail.
There are several other UA-cam channels which have produced many excellent videos on the theory of Relativity... There aren't any ducks in those videos however... but they will be far more accurate and detailed than this channel.
My favorite is "Eigenchris", "ScienceClick English" has some pretty good ones, "Dialect" is *eventually* good, but he was still figuring stuff out in his earliest videos and a bit confused about stuff, dispite the good looking animations. He's going in a weird direction with General Relativity right now and Einstein Synchronization.
Oh! "Richard Wolfson" has an excellent lecture series on Special Relatively. It's really good even without fancy computer graphics.
@@rohitashmishra6761 well yeah of course...
Their videos are usually 10 minutes long.
@@juliavixen176 well, we simply want ducks explaining it XD.
Because there aren't already five trillion videos on the subject? 🤔
Respect for the amount of experiments Duck participated in
We are Legion (we are bob) by Dennis E Taylor is a fantacy book that the main character gets frozen after death. It's fascinating what the future ends up. Love the series.
great series indeed, cant wait for part 5 to come out soon.
I've been disabled since I was 24. This is my daily hope ngl. I've been saving up so hard
Hang in there! Science gets better every day. Maybe you can get fixed up in your natural lifetime
@@Danath1982 ❤
as a 23 year old who's always been disabled: Don't waste your money. These companies are PREYING on people like us specifically. And frankly, if you could be revived with all your memory, wouldn't you rather have a new body that doesn't have The Bad Chemicals (see also: Not Enough Serotonin) and has joints that work and fresh bones? Or better yet, a biologically indestructible body, a la scifi robots with human brains inside them? There are so many reasons you should give up on this idea that one youtube comment cannot do it justice, but a thing especially worth noting is that the freezing processes we currently have cannot freeze a human sized specimen before the freezing starts to cause damage.
Like, I'm not trying to hurt your mental state or anything but *if this is your daily hope you need to find a new one,* and anti-aging technology looks like it might be the best way out, since a lot of those treatments could affect genetic disabilities too (specifically: CRISPR could help) and frankly that sounds a lot less risky than potentially doing irreversible damage that cannot be recovered without access to technology better used on things that aren't 3 thousand year old corpses of the categories of people that the society of our time doesn't seem to want to keep around, and on top of that, we could see CRISPR in our lifetimes. We, the disabled gen z, might actually get to live long enough to see that happen, and it's 100% possible that younger millennials will survive long enough for those treatments as well. Hope is not gone for those of us with permanent physical ailments, but that hope needs to be placed in technology that is based in something other than theoretical magic.
@@TheMENTALproductionzLook into BCIs (Brain Computer Interface) projects or companies that focus on rehabilitation, paralysis, aphasia etc…whatever your disability is, this is the next best thing compared to current tech.
Even if nothing comes of it, don’t let this stop you from living, best of luck!
@@TheMENTALproductionzna fam this is technology that is definitely not coming before 3100
Gonna make it till then?
I don't think so
I spotted numerous easter eggs:
1) Shut up and take my money! (Futurama meme)
2) SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS LATER... (SpongeBob time cards)
3) You Wouldn't Upload a Brain (You Wouldn't Steal a Car anti-piracy ad)
And stonks
you wouldn't download a car*
Dont forget the very first part of the video which i think is a reference to ‘3 body problem’
lol I love how duck's name is just "Duck" very adorable.
"to rail against nature is folly, all things must accept an end."
Clearly you don't know what side of the internet you're on. We know that death by aging isn't natural over here. Get used to that before spewing weird stuff like this :)
@@SnoFitzroy clearly you don't know hollow knight, truly a skill issue, get better before commenting something stupid like this on a hollow knight quote
@@Ms-Shape Coming into a discussion about the science behind cryonics and dunking on someone for not recognizing the video game quote you dropped is pretty weak.
Someone: “Welcome to the year 2169, you have just been frozen. Anything you have to say?”
*That* kid: “Skibidi Toilet rizz my dude”
put him back.
@@Gamespud94 Put him down💀
Edge, edge. Have you ever been on an edging streak? Edge, edge. Do they keep you in a state of edging? Edge, edge. When your not performing you are edging, do they make you goon? Edge, edge. Rizz, rizz. What's it like to hold the gyatt of someone you love? Rizz, rizz. Do they teach you how to feel, sigma to sigma? Rizz, rizz. Do you long for having your heart rizzed? Rizz, rizz. Do you dream about being rizzed? Rizz, rizz. Did baby gronk rizz up livy dunn? Rizz, rizz. Do you feel there is a part of you that's skibidi? Rizz, rizz. Skibidi edge rizz, skibidi edge rizz. Why don't you say that 3 times? Skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz.
"And blood-black nothingness began to spin. A system of edges rizzed within edge rized within edge rizzed within one sigma.
And masterfully mewing againts the fanum, a tall white fountain gooned."
- Open the airlock.
- Yes captain.
“Shut up and take my money”?! 😮
You don’t need your body to live forever. If you can live, live. But remember that this world isnt everything habibi ❤️
Cryo-stonks was hilarious
Next video in this topic please
E
Cryonics
Cry...on...it... 💀
Considering that longevity is a fast growing industry and the science behind it is growing at an exponential rate - I would say that defeating aging and gaining both immortality, increasing health span and pausing aging, even reversing aging until reaching a specific biological age is much closer than most think.
No one can't live forever but only best thing we can do is to extend our life span 😢
I’ll think you’ll find that sergeant Dornan is the best enclave soldier
Sorry to say this, but...
A bot copied your comment and got a ton of likes for its "effort".
"Shut up and take my money!"
GOT ME ROLLING 😂
If I think about cryonics too hard I eventually start questioning if I’m the same person that was alive yesterday or did they die last night after falling asleep…
It's a matter of perspective.
I took that one step further, am I the same person as 1 second ago, or an entirely different being with the same memories?
@@danielcreatd872 a time span as short as one second is not long enough for the horrific idea to be possible, but sleep? That is 100% potentially a repeated death-and-rebirth and there is no scientific way to prove whether it is or isn't that:
Suppose that your consciousness IS you. If you "lose consciousness," is this not death, due to losing what is the entirety of Capital Y You? If we accept that it is, then sleeping must by definition of being that thing where you lose consciousness for a while is itself a form of temporary death on the psychological level. Through this hypothetical understanding, you today are different from you yesterday, but have all the same memories, thoughts, feelings, likes, dislikes, hopes, dreams, -SAVE the world,- etc. And since youTube's timestamps tell me your comment was written 20 hours ago, you've probably slept since writing that, which means through this lens, the you that might respond to my existential crisis isn't the you that accidentally prompted me to write this wall of text.
This theory, which comes from fucking Wolfenstein of all things, genuinely keeps me up. I genuinely lose sleep over this idea because I cannot disprove it and it technically makes sense and hey maybe I don't actually want to die???
I would consider that if it weren't for the knowledge that I know that the brain doesn't completely shut off.
So are the same person and didn't die I would otherwise crushing out if there was a moment which I brain shuts off a moment and resets.
Or reboots.
Then I would question myself
Ur own consciousness is still aware of itself so no. If u would have died and a new version of u continued, then u wouldn't know that as u would be dead. But neither would new "you" as it continues from where u left off.
Basically if u are still thinking then u are still here.
“you wouldn’t upload a brain” lmao phenomenal reference
"Remember son, dying is gay... And expensive."
Just take a couple notes from medic he brought the mercs back alive with a machine somehow
Kurzgesagt has caught my attention with their amazing videos❤❤
I love your lifespan content. Your original video about this and CGP grey is what got me into healthspan news
I would rather that we work on cell regeneration (anti-aging) technologies rather than to freeze ourselves in hope that someone will care or be able to revive us.
The two go hand in hand. There's still room for improvement, but we have the technology today to (in ideal cases) preserve people/brains with great fidelity. Ultimately, the technology that permits us to revive cryonics patients and the technology that allows us to defeat aging and deterioration are going to be nearly the same thing.
one of the smoothest loops i’ve ever seen
Yeah but who wants to live foreveeeeerrrrr!
*ME*
Those not boring.
Oasis 😂
People who are able to make their lives interesting, just guessing
me
The actual question is:
Do you really want to live forever?
Forever...
Or never?
I do actually. I'm interested to see what the far future would be like.
I'd only want to live forever if I could decide when to die
FOREEEEVER YOUNG
@@mimaps i want to be forever young
If you aren't boring.
"Effectively pausing time"
Just get big yellow man to do it for you
DIO!
Cryonics: The ultimate gamble. The true question is, will anyone want you back?
I can't imagine any future civilization that will want to bring a random caveman back to life, other than as an intellectual curiosity.
That is a good point really
Okay but what about Philip J. Fry?
The idea is that the company is contractually obligated to do so, whether they like it or not. Of course, even if the company survives long enough, that depends on whether the laws get changed in the future, but it's not like you'll need money where you're going if they don't pull through.
Well the "random caveman" isn't relying on the goodwill of future strangers. They're relying on the contractual obligations of the cryonics company.
if only any alian civilization wants to reconstruct your body to know about human civilization iynyn 😏😏
Trouble with cryonics - our *radioactive bones* constantly damage our tissues. In stasis, this doesn't stop, but the repair processes do. The result, incredible DoT, presenting quite a lot of repair work for the future revivalists.
part of me wants to just react "BONES ARE READIOACTIVE" but yeah with how much potassium we have to eat, and getting it from bananas, yeah I totally believe the human body is radioactive. But I am curious to learn details on bone radioactivity, that sounds very interesting!
@@SnoFitzroy Curiously, bananas are actually a rather weak source of potassium. Tomato paste is the real deal. However, what likes to build up in bone (and teeth!) are radioisotopes of stuff like strontium and radium - really anything chemically similar to calcium (plus some naturally active calcium isotopes), which are collectively known, hilariously, as *bone seekers* , owing to their tendency to build up there.
No biggie, just store your brain sans bones. Besides they have to fix all the ice crystal damage, some radiation blasted DNA would be easy
Damage from endogenous radioisotope decay is a real thing, but would take thousands of years to inflict so much damage that the patient couldn't be recovered. This will be a real issue with interstellar travel, but not with cryonics. No one who's seriously involved with cryonics research thinks that it's going to take anywhere near that long for the technology to do molecular scale cellular repair to be developed and proliferated. Anecdotally, I think the general consensus is that we're looking at less than a century, and possibly considerably less.
If you live forever, you'll face more pain than if you die.
A price I am willing to pay to discover all secrets of this universe.
The combine explaining how they make advisors:
One power outage and my ass is freezer burnt
Not at all. The dewars don't use electricity. They just need to periodically have the liquid nitrogen topped off a bit. You could literally cut the power, close the doors, and walk away for a few months and not lose any patients.
Uploading my brain is basically just turning me into a necron
hypixel skyblock reference!?!?!??
@@TON-dr5fz what?
@@TON-dr5fzwarhammer 40k refrence
I'm okay with that. "Tomb World" has a nice ring to it. ;-)
As an person with the phobia of death im definitely signing up this.
The paperwork is a hassle, but it's worth it. Don't put it off. Assuming you pay for it using a life insurance policy, the younger you are when you sign up, the cheaper it is.
It won't work
@@blizzard1198 Thanks for your well-sourced, in depth critique backed by specific facts and data. You've clearly researched the topic thoroughly and are presenting a conclusion worthy of consideration and not just your off-the-cuff reaction based on no in-depth knowledge of the topic whatsoever. ;-)
@@Datan0de thank you, it sucks when people make statements and can't even back it up or give a source.
Imagine if the people who got frozen could see, and it hurts. They could still think, but they couldn't tell them that it hurts, and that they want to get out. That ladies and gentlemen, is torture.
“Litterly Fallout 💀”
“Science defeats death”
Oddly threatening
Live forever? What a terrifying prospect.
"Where there is no continuity, there's a dead body" - Stanisław Lem
Who says there's no continuity?
I wouldnt say upoading your brain would make you immortal. Its a copy of you, but not the real you unless the brain is awake in the process and your ''awaken being'' is slowly switched from your brain to the computer
Consciousness is extremely fucky, you could very well argue that the "you" that goes to sleep at night isn't the same "you" that wakes up in the morning.
Tbh I imagine it of kinda "moving" the conciousness from the physical body into a computer. That would be the most complicated part of it all, as we don't fully know how conciousness works. But another idea is "moving" the brain (or if more advanced, conciousness) into a robotic body, that is gonna last longer. And if in the future, we'll somehow acquire unlimited resources, it could continue for a very long time.
Wait does it show my reply?
@@ARandomIndieGameEnjoyer It does, at least for me.
@@HunterTracks I think not just maybe. Your brain still works over night, process the daily informations and build up new connections. So it is another you. But it is still you 😅 In my opinion you only stop being you if the brain stops working completely or is influenced by a surgery
I remember this sitcom episode as a kid with someone getting their dead relatives' frozen head back after the company went bankrupt
It was something like it took time for them to get the call to pick it up, and it was unplugged and defrosting
So while it is an interesting idea, what guarantees are involved? So much could happen while your remains are frozen
Duck: Shut up and take my money.
😂😂😂
The real question is whether our psyche could survive living for several hundred years
By the time you would forget most of things
You'd hope there's some form of memory expansion and storage e.g download your full memory onto a device and then resume "recording". Rinse and repeat, and don't lose the backups.
@@AmieEss or simply write journals
I can't wait to find out!
What if a mother and child get frozen together and then 160 years later they get unfrozen and the baby is kidnapped and mother shot by a cornflake brand?
Just make synthetic people, they solve everything.
Father wakes up and sets out to rebuild a nation and forgets about his son
That's not the most absurd argument I've heard against cryonics!
My biggest fear with this is that the brain somehow stays aware and you essentially live for hundreds of years in constant pain without anyone realising.
What? This isn't Demolition Man. At -196 C there's no cellular activity at all. None. Additionally, the cryoprotectants vitrify your tissues, effectively turning them into glass.
Not the only strategy I've seen. Brain transplant, gene therapy using younger versions of your genes, and upload (great way to make ai), and one other I won't mention
Gene therapy ??
Upload a concusness?? Alright whats a concusness by definition and is it something we can uhh (what's the right word) manipulate (i guess that's the word). Like making the file transfer between pc and a pendrive.
@@credentials4664 I define consciousness as an active electrical network within a defined neural system (ie: all of your memories and neural pathways)
@@shiroi5672 why not the ship of theseus?
Replace one brain part, then another, and just keep going. Eventually, your consciousness or soul would essentially be shifted over into a medium that can be transferred over electronic means.
Of course, the moving of said consciousness could be considered cloning and not a true moving of said mind, but future problems.
Why not mention the other one? Is it that controversial?
Why doesn’t sum rich guy just give kurzgesagt a few billion to do all the cool stuff irl
imagine in the last minutes on your death bed, you listen to the news that scientist found a way to defeat death and will give it to everyone in the next week
“Science defeats death”
"upload its brain"
Dude, 'I' want to keep living. Not my clone
I would still be dead, but there would be a doppelganger around now. That's completely useless for me (who is still pretty dead)
And they can make thay doppelgänger do what they want it to do, like get information.
Depends on how you define "self". Personally, I define "me" as a continuity of neural connectome, with additional influences from my endocrine system. That's "me". That's what's meaningful, not the specific ball of meat it's instantiated in. There is no "just" a copy. Any copy of me is just as valid and just as "me" as any other.
Not that it really matters in this case, since cryonics doesn't necessarily imply uploading.
The big issue is even if steps 1,2, and 3 go through; by the time they’re applicable and the world’s presumably overpopulated are they gonna wanna bring back the fools that would waste that much money today?
underpopulated*
These aren't Indians being cryogenically frozen. These are elite paying out the nose, so yeah people would thaw Elon Musk
@@EmeraldsQuartzLight Just because earth's population is decreasing right now, doesn't mean in thousands of years when this is possible it will also be going down. We already are 2/3 of the way to 12B
That's not the big issue. Sit down, Facebook.
Yeah, how the world will gonna be overpopulated if today only Africa and some middle east countries have TFR bigger than replacement rate of 2.1 per woman ? In 30-50 years all countries will begin to shrink...
Whenever we react to your videos in school we always call the duck a hero
I'm very glad you decided to use a duck as an example
No way bro just revealed FNaF 1673634 William Afton lore like that 💀
Today's Fact: In 2020, a group of scientists discovered a 'zombie' planet that appears to be dead, but is still emitting radio waves.
Same 💯
@@LuzPlanterhe said “agreed” like it was an opinion 😅
what
@@MacAttack163haven't understand anything 😕
@@LuzPlanter Same
bro cryonis was the least used, but the most useful rune in its situations
You have the best background music.
I dont know why anyone would want to do this. Even if its only 100 years until we have this kind of technology, everything will have changed so much that you'd just be starting from 0 again.
You won't have any personal/professional connections left. Plus, knowledge and society in general will have drastically changed. It would be like not telling anyone and just moving to a foreign country that speaks a language that you dont speak
Better than being dead. 🤷♂️
@mhelvens honestly, I don't know that it would be. But I guess at that point it's more of a personal decision , so yeah you're right
well, if there are enough others that also froze themselves, at least there will still be people to relate to.
And think of it this way, what if you had the choice to ether die tomorrow, or permanently move to a different country (like spain, japan, korea, iceland) what would you do?
i know what i would go for.
@@nickv8334 Exactly! People move to new countries with different languages and completely different cultures all the time and manage to thrive. Plus, most cryonicists know other cryonicists, so it's more like relocating your community to another country together.
Some people don't have the mindset to see that as an adventure or the mental agility to adapt to significantly different circumstances. Those people don't tend to sign up for cryonics.
That's quite opposite of how I feel. Next time make a video "Can you just disappear and make everyone forget you ever existed."
the fact you don't already know that the very obvious answer is "yes" shows lack of imagination on your part. Making people forget you would be the difficult part but yeah you can Just Disappear Without Dying
Im still alive and people barely remember I exist.
Or you can tranform your consciousness into a data, transfer it to a chip and insert it to your new body, it can be a robotic body, synthetic body or your clone without a consciousness.
Preserving a body and maintain it for a long periods of time are much more expensive than to create a new one.
If you can tell us how to do that, I'm all ears!
Who needs to pay 200k when you can just watch an ad?
This was huge a few decades back.
Dude the blackhole score goes so hard
I don't want to live in the world of Cruelty Squad
I think we’ll hit an “Altered Carbon” type of digital upload before we get to full body/brain reanimation.
To be something like this MAY work as freezing does help slow down the process of rotting and having your internal processes kind of being in a state of “sleep” It’s still running but at a slower pace
At -196 C there is NO cellular activity. Additionally, the cryoprotectants used largely fix your cell structures in place, and you're effectively a form of glass at that point.
Nice video!
FYI, song is called “The Largest Black Hole”
Can You Live Forever: Maybe
Do You Want To Live Forever: no
Speak for yourself
Allah already said everyone will taste death, so there is no maybe