I had a FOLBOT kayak that I bought used in 1956. It had a wood frame and gave me over 3 years of good service. I used it fishing and just exploring. I lived right next to San Francisco Bay which got pretty rough at times. That boat never let me down. This new one with its aluminum frame is amazing. I’m going to look into it so I can start a new adventure. I’ve got the bug again, thanks for the video. I hope you have as much fun with yours as I did with mine. BTW, mine was a 17 foot 2 setter.
Nice vid on an interesting product - yes, lots of thought went into it. I think the price is too high - but I think that of all kayaks! :>) Thanks for sharing. Cheers Patrick
The advanced elements boats are a hell to get dry after usage. A feiend of mine ows an ae expedition, nice to paddle, very smooth, a ton of payload and relatively lightweight, but getting this thing dry for Storage requires lots of Space and Time. Greetz Robert
Tell me about it, had a convertible for a while, very nice and practical but had to spray all the material to make it water resistant so it would be easier to dry. There is a new inflatable with a drop stitch bottom, very rigid, bit like gumotex, but only an open option.
Mark P. Yeah, and how did he get in the tiny, wobbly thing? I don't believe this is a genuine review. I think it's a commercial disguised as a review. Notice how certain difficulties are passed over? Getting in, absence of a rudder fx. And how about some basic measures, weight, length, width, assembly time, durability of skin, packing space, price...
@@DocBrownxyz I have an AdvancedFrame Sport and haven't had a problem drying it, but I only use it on flat water. i only dry off the keel with a towel. If the fabric is a little wet, I don't worry about it. The fabric is never saturated, and I rarely get much water inside. I should probably take it out of the bag and let it dry out at home, but I rarely do. Would be different if I used it on white water. I also have the Itiwit X500. Have only had it a week and have only used it on flat water, but I will use it on whitewater and the ocean eventually. Drying with a towel is enough. It's as rigid when inflated as the kayak in this video but a whole lot easier to set up. It's also easier to set up than the Sport with the backbone attachment. Folding it seems a lot harder than the Sport until you learn a few tricks, but with a little practice, it goes back in the bag as easily as the Sport ... which has never been very easy.
Hmm going to stick with my zoik alter ego ii. May paddle like a barge compared to this but setup is way easier, can stand to fish, handles class iv, and can use in ocean.
Nice video. I think it's really cool from a building perspective , but I don't know if I wanna spend all that time hunched over the thing to get it up and running.
might be nice for long term storage, or long distance travel... but otherwise there's little use for a kayak that takes this long to get ready for use.
That's great, however there is a large segment of kayakers that fish in their kayaks and none of us want to use an inflatable boat in that application for what I hope are obvious reasons. Try not to hurt your arm patting yourself on the back next time, captain consumer report
Prefer the soft skin of a folding kayak over a rigid. Makes you feel more connected to the water. The assembly times are minimal compared to the total time of owning and repurchasing of any style.
Wouldn't it just be way easier to get roof racks and not spend half an hour setting the kayak up? Also a normal fiberglass or plastic kayak would be way more sturdy and durable in the water if you hit anything, they would also be faster. This kayak also looks to be made for begginers so if you didn't know anything about kayaks it would be so hard trying set it up without any knowledge of how a boat works. If you ask me a normal kayak would be way better in performance and durability, also you wouldn't have to set it up and pack it up every time you went for a paddle and roof racks are not that hard to install and would take less time to put on your car than setting up this kayak.
Not all.of is are suburban drones driving their family to the Koa for the weekend lol. besides the salient point of his roof tent I would point out the way more common "I live in a studio apartment or 1 bedroom with no place to store a friggin kayak that doesn't fold".
InsomniacReviews, I think it’s a beautiful design. And I would probably come up with the same kind of design myself because when you think about the origin of the kayak being a skin stretched over frame that’s what you think of. It’s beautifully made thoughtfully crafted and all of that it’s just amount of time it takes to assemble. Especially if you can compare it to one of those Oru origami folding kayaks.
It's a solution for a specific need. It doesn't make sense for me because i own a truck and I can drive right up to where i want to launch. But if i didn't own a car and could walk to the water... it would be a godsend.
Ha ha ha, don't be so sure. My cousins wife was telling me, are you sure you want to buy an Ikea bunk bed for your kids? Maybe you should have someone build it for you. So my wife asked me, "Do we need to hire Ikea to build it for us?" I said no, Ikea's stuff is so easy to build, don't even need words to explain, their instructions are always so simple and easy even an idiot could do it. A day later, wife asked again. He said, her sister's husband had a lot of trouble building his. Well I didn't get help. It was very easy. about 3/4s of the way through my father in law came in to help finish it up. It is easier if two work together due to the big and bulky parts, but it most certainly was not a hard build, just needed to short the parts in the begining so you know which was which. Also I quickly found out needed to open both boxes because you need parts from both boxes at the begining stages of the instructions. Still a simple build. But it doesn't hurt to read instructions. when I put my kayak together ( different brand ) I thought I had neglegted to insteall guid fins on the bottom because anotehr model had them. Later I looked up on line my modle doesn't come with fins, but I was a bit shaken for a second thinking I dumped the fins on some strange guys boat before I lowered my kayak into the water.
I had a FOLBOT kayak that I bought used in 1956. It had a wood frame and gave me over 3 years of good service. I used it fishing and just exploring. I lived right next to San Francisco Bay which got pretty rough at times. That boat never let me down. This new one with its aluminum frame is amazing. I’m going to look into it so I can start a new adventure. I’ve got the bug again, thanks for the video. I hope you have as much fun with yours as I did with mine. BTW, mine was a 17 foot 2 setter.
That's awesome and thanks for sharing that info. Be safe!
Wow, as far as purchasing items go, what a time to be alive. I'm very impressed with this kayak. Great review
Thank you and I’m constantly impressed with items people come up with
thanks for taking the time for videotaping the excellent review! I am soooo close to buying one, but wonder if i should get the next size up?....
Very informative thank you again . Looking forward to my folbot
thanks and enjoy your Folbot!
Thx for this video👍 i didn't hear of folbot before, now i want a new kayak.... Thx for that....😈😄
Thank you.
Nice vid on an interesting product - yes, lots of thought went into it. I think the price is too high - but I think that of all kayaks! :>) Thanks for sharing.
Cheers Patrick
Nice piece of kit.
Though I did wince when you put the tubes down on the sand then pushed them together
It survived I promise!
How long did the build take? Looks like a lot of work, I guess these days I would be looking at a Ori Kayak or a advanced elements inflatable.
The advanced elements boats are a hell to get dry after usage. A feiend of mine ows an ae expedition, nice to paddle, very smooth, a ton of payload and relatively lightweight, but getting this thing dry for Storage requires lots of Space and Time.
Greetz
Robert
Tell me about it, had a convertible for a while, very nice and practical but had to spray all the material to make it water resistant so it would be easier to dry. There is a new inflatable with a drop stitch bottom, very rigid, bit like gumotex, but only an open option.
Mark P. Yeah, and how did he get in the tiny, wobbly thing? I don't believe this is a genuine review. I think it's a commercial disguised as a review. Notice how certain difficulties are passed over? Getting in, absence of a rudder fx. And how about some basic measures, weight, length, width, assembly time, durability of skin, packing space, price...
@@DocBrownxyz I have an AdvancedFrame Sport and haven't had a problem drying it, but I only use it on flat water. i only dry off the keel with a towel. If the fabric is a little wet, I don't worry about it. The fabric is never saturated, and I rarely get much water inside. I should probably take it out of the bag and let it dry out at home, but I rarely do. Would be different if I used it on white water.
I also have the Itiwit X500. Have only had it a week and have only used it on flat water, but I will use it on whitewater and the ocean eventually. Drying with a towel is enough. It's as rigid when inflated as the kayak in this video but a whole lot easier to set up. It's also easier to set up than the Sport with the backbone attachment. Folding it seems a lot harder than the Sport until you learn a few tricks, but with a little practice, it goes back in the bag as easily as the Sport ... which has never been very easy.
Hmm going to stick with my zoik alter ego ii. May paddle like a barge compared to this but setup is way easier, can stand to fish, handles class iv, and can use in ocean.
nice! but being used to inflatables this seems like a lot of work.
Neat idea but I think by the time he gets his kayak put together I'd already be digesting my catch...
Nice video. I think it's really cool from a building perspective , but I don't know if I wanna spend all that time hunched over the thing to get it up and running.
Valid points and I think some easier products have come along since this video was created
might be nice for long term storage, or long distance travel... but otherwise there's little use for a kayak that takes this long to get ready for use.
great tech toy...!
cool
69 for an Intex k1 inflatable. When fully inflated (Under 1 minute with a double stroke large pump) it's hard as a rock, stable, and fast.
That's great, however there is a large segment of kayakers that fish in their kayaks and none of us want to use an inflatable boat in that application for what I hope are obvious reasons.
Try not to hurt your arm patting yourself on the back next time, captain consumer report
These are very cool. btw I think your paddles upside down :P
Do attend the Wagstaff School system?
Chad Kessinger no, went to college instead to get both my degrees
Assemble on sand? Seems like that would jam the slip joints and abrade the fabric, OUCH!
This one is tough and zero issues putting together on sand or rough terrain
Prefer the soft skin of a folding kayak over a rigid. Makes you feel more connected to the water. The assembly times
are minimal compared to the total time of owning and repurchasing of any style.
I'm sure it's a nice boat & all but not exactly 'folding' is it?
Valid!
if it can fit in a backpack? Not much to complain about as far a portability.
I think I'll stick with the tucktec
Interesting looking brand. Ill have to check it out.
are you wearing a life jacket? :D
I did
Wouldn't it just be way easier to get roof racks and not spend half an hour setting the kayak up? Also a normal fiberglass or plastic kayak would be way more sturdy and durable in the water if you hit anything, they would also be faster. This kayak also looks to be made for begginers so if you didn't know anything about kayaks it would be so hard trying set it up without any knowledge of how a boat works. If you ask me a normal kayak would be way better in performance and durability, also you wouldn't have to set it up and pack it up every time you went for a paddle and roof racks are not that hard to install and would take less time to put on your car than setting up this kayak.
Some of us have roof tents.
Not all.of is are suburban drones driving their family to the Koa for the weekend lol.
besides the salient point of his roof tent I would point out the way more common "I live in a studio apartment or 1 bedroom with no place to store a friggin kayak that doesn't fold".
You use the word "extremely" extremely often. :D
Extremely good point! :)
under 10 minutes ?? seems unlikely
Potat Oh once you know the parts very possible. Like a tent
“Assembled in under 10 minutes...” In a 6 minute video at 4x playback speed
Tim Fisher it’s called editing out the extra 4 mins so not to bore people watching the assembly.
Oru kayak is easier :P
I'd love to demo one
I think I’d rather bring up small bucket of fish, and bribe a dolphin for a joyride.
Yes I know dolphin ate not available i all waters.
I've not had the chance to ride or review a dolphin yet (in any waters) but this rig got me to where I needed to go and I felt safe doing it.
InsomniacReviews, I think it’s a beautiful design. And I would probably come up with the same kind of design myself because when you think about the origin of the kayak being a skin stretched over frame that’s what you think of. It’s beautifully made thoughtfully crafted and all of that it’s just amount of time it takes to assemble. Especially if you can compare it to one of those Oru origami folding kayaks.
The cost of this boat is ridiculous. $700 really? No thanks
rupe1986 I hear ya!
Nah
That’s ok
Um....no.
Um...I understand
This is “extremely” wasteful in time.
It's a solution for a specific need. It doesn't make sense for me because i own a truck and I can drive right up to where i want to launch. But if i didn't own a car and could walk to the water... it would be a godsend.
"extremely" good points!
"i basically unloaded the backpack and i could see in my mind how everything was gonna fit together" - that only tells of how youre not a woman.
Kugel Schreiber =sexistische Arschkrampe
Ha ha ha, don't be so sure. My cousins wife was telling me, are you sure you want to buy an Ikea bunk bed for your kids? Maybe you should have someone build it for you. So my wife asked me, "Do we need to hire Ikea to build it for us?" I said no, Ikea's stuff is so easy to build, don't even need words to explain, their instructions are always so simple and easy even an idiot could do it.
A day later, wife asked again. He said, her sister's husband had a lot of trouble building his.
Well I didn't get help. It was very easy. about 3/4s of the way through my father in law came in to help finish it up. It is easier if two work together due to the big and bulky parts, but it most certainly was not a hard build, just needed to short the parts in the begining so you know which was which. Also I quickly found out needed to open both boxes because you need parts from both boxes at the begining stages of the instructions. Still a simple build.
But it doesn't hurt to read instructions. when I put my kayak together ( different brand ) I thought I had neglegted to insteall guid fins on the bottom because anotehr model had them. Later I looked up on line my modle doesn't come with fins, but I was a bit shaken for a second thinking I dumped the fins on some strange guys boat before I lowered my kayak into the water.
I love your name. I'm Bleistift. Nice to meet you.
@@frechwieoskar8052 lol, insulting people on the internet and yelling "sexist" clearly is a sign of your superiority. Hope you're proud of yourself