Artifacts are weird. You have items that unlock totallly new playstyles by breaking specific units. And then you have the most boring stat sticks in the game with infinity force / anima visage / hull crusher.
Not sure if it’s covered somewhere but I tried to give one unit 2 spectral cutlasses once because I was interested how the teleport would work. Turned out it gets reversed, the unit doesn’t teleport at the beginning but teleports after 8 seconds. It was actually useful
This interaction was really fun to be honest. In fact the unit does teleport at the beginning, but the second spectral teleport it back to his first location, that being said, after the 8 second the first spectral trigger and then the second one, bringing the unit to the desired spot on the backline
Thank you leduck for all of your informative videos. Maybe that's not much, but let me payback by saying this - blighting jewel works with laser eyed and it's amazing. My cyclops Mundo destroyed the enemy team all by himself. But he also had seeker's armguard and that might be hard to obtain with artifactory gone.
If Riot is intent on removing creativity and cooking potential because they can't balance certain interactions (suspicious trenchcoat) and just want to make artifacts into novel experiences instead, then they could at least get rid of the uninteresting ones like Infinity Force and Hullcrusher
Just no. People "cook" for like 3 times total and find broken combos between artifacts, and then everyone copies them. Theyre fun in the same way bullying or a broken comp is fun. Free wins with absurd mechanics. Because artifacts have unique effects their interactions will always have some broken things. So instead of making them all weak, removing the ability to get tons of artifacts is better. Sorry, copying a combo of 2 artifacts is not "creative cooking".
@@trafalgarlaw8373 finally, people act like anti game shit people copy around is the end all be all of the game just becuse fucking lux is 1v9 the bord from 3-1 to 6-2, the rest of the lobby has to be able to play the game and a specific spot should not just win you out right, someone playing default should be able to cap a bord to Win against some spot comp
on my last game, we started with Sevika encounter and then she gave everyone an artifact anvil after every mob fight. Maybe they need to fix this one too.
There is a weird interaction with trench coat and the Yellow Jewel Support Item It gives you base Damage Amp% for your whole teams and it increases every second the user is alive, however once trench coat is activated, the acumulated damage Amp doesn't disappear, instead it multiplies by x3 and it keeps on increasing for each second alive of each individual copy!
Another really good interaction with suspicious trench coats item refresh is unstable treasure chest since it'll end up giving 4 treasure chests worth of items
I tried a visionary 8, with Rumble "flying fire" and "Visionary" and the artifact reducing magic resistance. This was the most hilarious game of this set.
I will forever remember the game where I beat a guy who had 3 3-star 4 costs with just 1 because it was a 3 Star Vi with Horizon Focus, Muramana, and Tricksters Cloak.
Kogtank is still strong, you don't really need a dominator emblem. I like to do 4/6 automata and 4 emissary with tris as bacline dmg. Tris takes care of the frontline and kog's base damage can deal with the backlines
Blighting jewel with the singed hero augment is really overpowered! I got him 4 stared and he ran through the enemy team with that item, they had no chance to do anything to him
The artifact is like to be changed the most is Deaths Defiance, which has an interesting effect on paper but is just not really interesting. Also infinity force while not bad by any means is rather uninteresting since it just goes on a random melee carry to buff them in a similar way to titans. Lastly I think snipers focus might need a change cause the intersting part about getting extra range is already covered by 2 other artifacts in a better way so it just gets delegated to being good on units that can target units across the map but doesnt really offer something that interesting.
Even though we don't have artifactory now its still very much normal getting artifacts on double up, and I play it a lot with a friend of mine, so I appreciate the guide.
One unit is Vander with Deaths Dance. For some reason even a level 2 vander with this item can tank like 25k damage. Something to do with his ability double dipping into the passive or something.
Bruh I just played Camille with Silvermere Dawn and that's that's the first video in my homepage. I've tried it before with Enforcer and now I did with Ambusher, it was a fun run but I lost to a guy with 12 spaces in his board.
Does Silvermere dawn stun work with Silco's monstrosities? Since it is known that Silco gets the benefit from Voltaic Blade since it would appear his monstrosities' attacks count as his attacks?
I could've swore they said they would bring back Corrupt Vampiric Scepter this set, so I'm still a little heated we've yet to see it back. Not even sure if there's many champs that would take it, but I can see it being strong on Nocturne. Though I can see them reworking it to behaving differently.
About the trenchcoat u should try trenchcoat singed with mana items. It is so funny to see a backline carry getting max attackspeed after singed drops low enough
I personally feel that if artifacts are intended to be a rare thing to get they should have an appropriate power level to suite. Right now their current balance is around how accessible it used to be. Now while some of the artifacts kinda fit the expected power for them to have, some don’t, are too niche, too obscure to use or overlap with each other. I know RFC, fishbones and snipers focus aren’t the exact same item but functionally they’re usually given to a champ for the same reason. You’re mostly giving Noc one of these for the range bonus not the secondary effects, etc; Like stuff like Ludens is fun but there’s usually not a whole ton of champs that end up utilizing it. Right now it’s what, Maddie and Lux? Mittens same thing, fun item when it has a use but how often do you take it? Like you have singed augment 100% insta grab even just for memes right but what else right now? Like even most of the tank items just feel kinda underwhelming? I love the idea of visage but it feels like it kinda underdelivers most of the time? I just. If accessibility to relics is removed it would be nice to see relics given a bit more of a purpose. Too many of them are too niche.
Quick recap: no one was playing what the forge terribile augment >> riot buffing it >> still bad >> changing set & units, introducing Artifactory >> everyone playing new funny techs, everyone playing artifacts >> removing Artifactory >> wtf!?
@alv1572 they buffed it like 20 times before becoming broken and then nerfing it to the ground again, also in set 12 artifacts interaction with units were nothing special
Mort said that they are not doing an augment like that again. That it is either too good or too bad and it is really bad to balance artifacts for either having 1/2 or having a lot
Hey, great video! I personally think the artifact that teleports at the beginning of combat should be removed. It’s too randomly swingy, and I feel that zephyr as a support item is similar. Just out of nowhere these items can steal a win from positioning rng, when two people are swapping last second.
I have found that Ekko makes a surprisingly good use of Spectral as well, as Ambusher lets him make use of the crit chance without needing to waste an item slot on JG/IE, and Scrap gives him the extra health to survive in the backline long enough to get a few casts off. Giving him the Camille treatment of HoJ HoJ Spectral can turn him into an absolutely amazing assassin that can usually get off one to two casts before spectral warps him back. Just be careful to NOT run Firelight, or he'll dash away before fining off the enemy backline, which can be a bit annoying. Goes great in the Perfect Synergy Family comp as Powder gives him Scrap and Ambusher (But you will have Scar giving him firelight, so be wary with that one) but even in a Scrap Ambusher comp it'll work too, honestly better even as the more scrap shield he has the more likely he is to live long enough to assassinate the backline.
Since Artifacts aren't tied to craftability, they never really have to remove any to make space for more. If something is underwhelming or uninteresting, they can take steps to make that item more interesting rather than removing it, no?
Hello mr leduck I dont want to self promote in any way but do u have any idea what happened whit my Renata glasq in the video i uploaded she just stopped attacking but so did my double up teammates Renata
Many bugs are like this in double up where the unit just stop moving and attacking, happened with smeech and akali some patches ago, now renata and I've seen my gp attack but not cast so now we just have to wait for it to get patch
I made a Mad Chemist Singed with Seeker's Armguard today, sentinel comp, he managed to get 300 armor easy. Armguard, Bloodthirsty and Jeweled Gauntlet. I got 3rd place, could I build him better?
The current Trinity Force is such ass (both enjoyment and impact) so I had this idea: Trinity Force rework: Unit's damage (incl. ability) scale from all sources. This would make Dominators, Gargoyl, Anomaly scalings, Seeker go wild, plus it will make the current boring support items shine better. And I think it'll be relatively balanced fundementally too, since the scaling conversion can be adjusted without.
to answer your last question, 100% hull crusher, lich bane, and infinity force. as a 4fun player i havent clicked infinity force once this set cause its just so boring lool
if it's not fun for the 7 other people playing with you it's normal it's getting removed, removed augments are the one with a very high winrate that are not fixable with only a nerf. Both lone hero and artifactory needed to take a break until they have an idea how to rework them
Yeah I'm not playing this boring ass game until they put artifactory back in. Riot is the most anti-fun gaming company on the fucking planet I swear man
So u played every game artifactory? xD It was just to OP. This is called balancing. There are enough other way's to get Artifacts....just not not of them
Artifacts are weird.
You have items that unlock totallly new playstyles by breaking specific units.
And then you have the most boring stat sticks in the game with infinity force / anima visage / hull crusher.
I feel like trinity is so shit man, it's a waste of prismatic augment.
@@crohnaak its good, just not as interesting so it feels like shit when someone else gets a champion transforming one
@@iheartlownotes good on who? there are no hybrid champs this set
@@lnvalidm8 the ambushers, vi, morde, quite a few
@@lnvalidm8 its pretty much just a titans replacement on anyone that can build titans
It's all fun and games until an invincible wolf slaps your carry three times and kills them
Not sure if it’s covered somewhere but I tried to give one unit 2 spectral cutlasses once because I was interested how the teleport would work. Turned out it gets reversed, the unit doesn’t teleport at the beginning but teleports after 8 seconds. It was actually useful
This interaction was really fun to be honest. In fact the unit does teleport at the beginning, but the second spectral teleport it back to his first location, that being said, after the 8 second the first spectral trigger and then the second one, bringing the unit to the desired spot on the backline
Thank you leduck for all of your informative videos. Maybe that's not much, but let me payback by saying this - blighting jewel works with laser eyed and it's amazing. My cyclops Mundo destroyed the enemy team all by himself. But he also had seeker's armguard and that might be hard to obtain with artifactory gone.
Why not Laser Eyes + Flamethrower Rumble with Blighting?
@@leducknow you’re cooking
What ARE all the interactions for blighting? I need a list for this item! Pwty pls
Had a guy with chosen singed trench coat and mittens, it was insane whole board just constantly covered
Love the format where each artifact is at the top of the screen to tell you how much more there is about that item. Great stuff Mr.Duck
DEDICATING FIRST COMMENT TO PRE NERF TRENCHCOAT YOU WILL BE MISSED
o7
not at all
I’m sure he’s looking up at us right now from hell🥹
Good ridance
In most the games I get offered Sus Trench Coat, my Violet already has a Titan's, which resets when the clones pop :[
U can give it to vi instead then :)
If Riot is intent on removing creativity and cooking potential because they can't balance certain interactions (suspicious trenchcoat) and just want to make artifacts into novel experiences instead, then they could at least get rid of the uninteresting ones like Infinity Force and Hullcrusher
Yeah i hate the augment "Get 2 infinity forces" such a lame artifact xd
or they could just buff them stupid so at least they become exciting for free lp
Just no. People "cook" for like 3 times total and find broken combos between artifacts, and then everyone copies them. Theyre fun in the same way bullying or a broken comp is fun. Free wins with absurd mechanics. Because artifacts have unique effects their interactions will always have some broken things. So instead of making them all weak, removing the ability to get tons of artifacts is better. Sorry, copying a combo of 2 artifacts is not "creative cooking".
@@trafalgarlaw8373 finally, people act like anti game shit people copy around is the end all be all of the game just becuse fucking lux is 1v9 the bord from 3-1 to 6-2, the rest of the lobby has to be able to play the game and a specific spot should not just win you out right, someone playing default should be able to cap a bord to Win against some spot comp
I mean... at least for this set. Phreaky Friday would probably be good in viktors vision.
on my last game, we started with Sevika encounter and then she gave everyone an artifact anvil after every mob fight. Maybe they need to fix this one too.
There is a weird interaction with trench coat and the Yellow Jewel Support Item
It gives you base Damage Amp% for your whole teams and it increases every second the user is alive, however once trench coat is activated, the acumulated damage Amp doesn't disappear, instead it multiplies by x3 and it keeps on increasing for each second alive of each individual copy!
Another really good interaction with suspicious trench coats item refresh is unstable treasure chest since it'll end up giving 4 treasure chests worth of items
I tried a visionary 8, with Rumble "flying fire" and "Visionary" and the artifact reducing magic resistance. This was the most hilarious game of this set.
For the wolf familiar silvermere interaction, does it also work with "mini mes" anomaly?
Fishbones with the anomaly of dragons that you deal 20% dmg when you hit a new target also works super well.
I will forever remember the game where I beat a guy who had 3 3-star 4 costs with just 1 because it was a 3 Star Vi with Horizon Focus, Muramana, and Tricksters Cloak.
there really should be an augment that hands out at least two artifacts if they want to get rid of artifactory/what the forge
there is living forge
way too broken
Kogtank is still strong, you don't really need a dominator emblem. I like to do 4/6 automata and 4 emissary with tris as bacline dmg. Tris takes care of the frontline and kog's base damage can deal with the backlines
Blighting jewel with the singed hero augment is really overpowered! I got him 4 stared and he ran through the enemy team with that item, they had no chance to do anything to him
The artifact is like to be changed the most is Deaths Defiance, which has an interesting effect on paper but is just not really interesting. Also infinity force while not bad by any means is rather uninteresting since it just goes on a random melee carry to buff them in a similar way to titans. Lastly I think snipers focus might need a change cause the intersting part about getting extra range is already covered by 2 other artifacts in a better way so it just gets delegated to being good on units that can target units across the map but doesnt really offer something that interesting.
Even though we don't have artifactory now its still very much normal getting artifacts on double up, and I play it a lot with a friend of mine, so I appreciate the guide.
Seeker's Armsguard is amazing in Warwick, as he usually gets every single kill in every fight due to his passive
One unit is Vander with Deaths Dance. For some reason even a level 2 vander with this item can tank like 25k damage. Something to do with his ability double dipping into the passive or something.
Bruh I just played Camille with Silvermere Dawn and that's that's the first video in my homepage. I've tried it before with Enforcer and now I did with Ambusher, it was a fun run but I lost to a guy with 12 spaces in his board.
Some people here need to consider if there's no generic artifacts it'll be really bad if you don't hit (and guess what, it's already bad)
Does Silvermere dawn stun work with Silco's monstrosities? Since it is known that Silco gets the benefit from Voltaic Blade since it would appear his monstrosities' attacks count as his attacks?
Dumb question...
doesnt ionic spark Deal dmg to enemies in every range, radiant ist just bigger radius for the mr shred?
nope, the damage and shred is in the same range
This indeed is a dumb question
Luden's echo morgana is so fun too. Her damages are high, and she spreads the damages on kill, which is really whipping hehehehe
I could've swore they said they would bring back Corrupt Vampiric Scepter this set, so I'm still a little heated we've yet to see it back. Not even sure if there's many champs that would take it, but I can see it being strong on Nocturne. Though I can see them reworking it to behaving differently.
im curious if the stuns would work with center of universe anomaly
About the trenchcoat u should try trenchcoat singed with mana items. It is so funny to see a backline carry getting max attackspeed after singed drops low enough
Wouldn't blighting jewel still work very good ok blitz since his ability works like Thornskin?
So Firelight ítem + Firelight augment + Singed Hero?
Hi leduct can you explain the interaction of family emblem when it put to jinx, Warwick, and Vi?
Can we get a video on item/on-hit interactions with the wolves?
Heres an odd question.
An anomaly : The 3 star champ gets put up to 4 star.
Can u do that with a 3 star 5 cost?
Try trundle Hero with sniper emblem that 6 bruiser 6 sniper bro,,that broken asf😂
Is there any other artifact videos?
have u tried blighted jewel heimer? I think he'll be incredible once he gets enemy Frontline to zero
I personally feel that if artifacts are intended to be a rare thing to get they should have an appropriate power level to suite. Right now their current balance is around how accessible it used to be.
Now while some of the artifacts kinda fit the expected power for them to have, some don’t, are too niche, too obscure to use or overlap with each other.
I know RFC, fishbones and snipers focus aren’t the exact same item but functionally they’re usually given to a champ for the same reason. You’re mostly giving Noc one of these for the range bonus not the secondary effects, etc;
Like stuff like Ludens is fun but there’s usually not a whole ton of champs that end up utilizing it. Right now it’s what, Maddie and Lux? Mittens same thing, fun item when it has a use but how often do you take it? Like you have singed augment 100% insta grab even just for memes right but what else right now?
Like even most of the tank items just feel kinda underwhelming? I love the idea of visage but it feels like it kinda underdelivers most of the time?
I just. If accessibility to relics is removed it would be nice to see relics given a bit more of a purpose. Too many of them are too niche.
Needed this before they removed artifactory. Still upset by that change.
Basically they killed anything nocturne-related
2:48 wtf, little zerys behind the main zery ? XDD
Fishbones also works very well with Gangplank
I thought of something. What happens with sniper sett. Does his ult just not work?
It's fine, can create some funny pulls tbh
Do wolves proc static shiv?
Elise trenchcoat + horizon + zhonyas was pretty good too
Quick recap: no one was playing what the forge terribile augment >> riot buffing it >> still bad >> changing set & units, introducing Artifactory >> everyone playing new funny techs, everyone playing artifacts >> removing Artifactory >> wtf!?
Wait am i remembering things wrong, afrer they first buffed What the forge it was absolutely broken they had to b patch and later nerf it again.
@alv1572 they buffed it like 20 times before becoming broken and then nerfing it to the ground again, also in set 12 artifacts interaction with units were nothing special
Mort said that they are not doing an augment like that again. That it is either too good or too bad and it is really bad to balance artifacts for either having 1/2 or having a lot
I would appreciate time stamps on such videous so it was possible to navigate fast when you are in the game and want fast tip for specific artificat
exactly a video I needed wright now!!
Hey, great video! I personally think the artifact that teleports at the beginning of combat should be removed. It’s too randomly swingy, and I feel that zephyr as a support item is similar. Just out of nowhere these items can steal a win from positioning rng, when two people are swapping last second.
Does blighting work with slime time or slow cooker? Maybe even wolf familiars since apparently they carry item effects?
Jewel is op with laser eyes too
It's one of the most op combo
Laser eyes work with blighting jewel
Is that the LoR board background music? :)
It is! Except the last one :)
Mirror artefact + sevika is really broken as well
Can’t blightin jewel proc on blitzcranck passive
idk why they removed the ability to force anomaly, like i think it doesn't break the game, because after all you still need to roll for it
I have found that Ekko makes a surprisingly good use of Spectral as well, as Ambusher lets him make use of the crit chance without needing to waste an item slot on JG/IE, and Scrap gives him the extra health to survive in the backline long enough to get a few casts off.
Giving him the Camille treatment of HoJ HoJ Spectral can turn him into an absolutely amazing assassin that can usually get off one to two casts before spectral warps him back. Just be careful to NOT run Firelight, or he'll dash away before fining off the enemy backline, which can be a bit annoying.
Goes great in the Perfect Synergy Family comp as Powder gives him Scrap and Ambusher (But you will have Scar giving him firelight, so be wary with that one) but even in a Scrap Ambusher comp it'll work too, honestly better even as the more scrap shield he has the more likely he is to live long enough to assassinate the backline.
Just got 9 Scrap and just realized that it also make thief Gloves Radiant
Since Artifacts aren't tied to craftability, they never really have to remove any to make space for more. If something is underwhelming or uninteresting, they can take steps to make that item more interesting rather than removing it, no?
Hello mr leduck
I dont want to self promote in any way but do u have any idea what happened whit my Renata glasq in the video i uploaded she just stopped attacking but so did my double up teammates Renata
There's a lot of double up bugs atm. Freezing, mana locking, perma casting, etc all can happen when units transfer
@@ptsg yeah but there was only Renata glasq alive and both players lost due to overtime she was alone on the board for 3-5 seconds
Many bugs are like this in double up where the unit just stop moving and attacking, happened with smeech and akali some patches ago, now renata and I've seen my gp attack but not cast so now we just have to wait for it to get patch
Earlier today my backline gp casted his auto to an imaginary target and we went from top 2 to top 4 real quick
Lost a place bcs my mordekaiser got bumped by viktor while having quicksilver and zhonya
He also refused to cast spell behing full mana
Silvermere Dawn is good with cait bc it doesn’t effect her attack speed
I made a Mad Chemist Singed with Seeker's Armguard today, sentinel comp, he managed to get 300 armor easy. Armguard, Bloodthirsty and Jeweled Gauntlet. I got 3rd place, could I build him better?
crit not really recommended but i see how it could become valuable with enough seekers stacks. you probs just vs'ed high cap boards
Armguard, Seraph, BT / Gunblade and take a mage armor if its possible. You might do better with that.
You sure this are not bugs and they wont ban us like GP??
The current Trinity Force is such ass (both enjoyment and impact) so I had this idea:
Trinity Force rework:
Unit's damage (incl. ability) scale from all sources.
This would make Dominators, Gargoyl, Anomaly scalings, Seeker go wild, plus it will make the current boring support items shine better. And I think it'll be relatively balanced fundementally too, since the scaling conversion can be adjusted without.
A video showcasing the reason Artifactory got disabled.
Man removing artifactory feels like a complete scam
But how to get artifacts?
Thank you MorthDuck
Seekers armguard is so strong on rumble
Artifactory is gone?
Blighting Jewel still not mentioning Kog Maw :(
rest in peace artifactory
Music should be turned down a bit imo
i wish i had watched this first before putting 1k hp from anomaly to my trench coat holder.. sadge
to answer your last question, 100% hull crusher, lich bane, and infinity force. as a 4fun player i havent clicked infinity force once this set cause its just so boring lool
It's actually a great pick for Reforge, so you can't get Infinity Force again
@@leduck true LMAOOO
they should replace deathfire grasp and trenchoat imo;
Innervating Locket is the best on 8 visionary Rell
More of this pls
Category 5 + 2xRunaan + Silvermere = 5 champ's stunned
Put a blighting jewel on Blitz 👌
outdated info on coat, already nerfed to not proc zhon etc again
o7 trench coat I loved the item but it is turbo broken and likely always will be until they remove it (probably in the near future)
Did you intend for the thumbnails to make the video look like kids content
Am I the only one that thinks he sounds a lot like Ohnepixel? :D
Tricksters feels AWFUL to play, I’d love to see it changef
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BRING BACK WHAT THE FORGE
Tricksters glass, anima visage and DFG have worn out their welcome. Lich Bane, Unending Despair and Wits End are suuuper boring
None of them should be replaced, the bring so much fun chaos. What the forge augment was the right name for something so gambly and weird
zhonyas needs to get reworked or removed tbh just meh
Is it fun? Mort will remove it. RIP artifactory. Only bland games allowed.
Just remmenber what happened with the SHIELD into hp one
@fallenmoon3071 That one was a blast. Good ole days. Well, better days at least.
Super fun to lose a game no matter what u Do because someone hit artifacts..
@@aurelio9102 Yeah..but like powder frontline augment...removed because people were getting fun
if it's not fun for the 7 other people playing with you it's normal it's getting removed, removed augments are the one with a very high winrate that are not fixable with only a nerf. Both lone hero and artifactory needed to take a break until they have an idea how to rework them
tendi porra nenhuma, mas ótimo vídeo pato
Yeah I'm not playing this boring ass game until they put artifactory back in. Riot is the most anti-fun gaming company on the fucking planet I swear man
So u played every game artifactory? xD
It was just to OP. This is called balancing. There are enough other way's to get Artifacts....just not not of them
@@kk354 point went too far over your head or what?
Bro I thought leduckvods was a fake I've been disliking and talking so much crap on those videos 😅
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hahahaha
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please delete this tuber hahahah, im sick enough seeing kogmaw locket.