Wonderful video! Thank you so much for this walk through on setting up a kiln. Mine finally arrived so I’m ready to experiment. You are an awesome teacher. Taking baby steps here now.
Thank you! This is very useful because I've found very little info online. There are plenty of resources for ceramic kilns but not for glass painting kilns
Hello Derek. Thank you, this is a very helpful post. Thank you for always responding quickly and efficiently to all our questions. Everything you do is great. Regards, Oleg.❤
Really interesting and enlightening, thank you! I never realised whiting could be used and did wonder how you smoothed it out. Also thank you to Clare for your advice and recommendations. So wonderful that you both freely share experience and tips, it’s very much appreciated!!!❤
A gas kiln...YES! I'm off grid and to make that much power means cranking up my big diesel gennie, which isn't ideal. I've an old gas ceramic kiln which I could rebuild for glass I guess.
@@DerekHuntArtist Will do, Derek. BTW, have you ever tried putting plant material between glass, then firing it to fuse? The plant organics and carbon burns off before slumping, then the fused results holds the intricate white ash filigree within. It's in one of my art books, 'Art From Found Materials' by Mary Lou Stribling, pgs 217-218, pub. 1970. Another bowstring there maybe?
Unfortunately I don’t know the kiln suppliers in your area. In the uk a good start up kiln is called the Hobby Fuser by Kilncare. www.kilncare.com/hobbyfuser
love this. beautiful studios💕. i just started with my kiln 24"x24", it only has one fire so far. i made a metal frame that I fill with whitting and sit on a dedicated kiln shelf, propped on posts like Claire has- im curious to see how this holds up over time against the weight of the metal frame and powder. I also have separate primed kiln shelves of different sizes for fusing and just as backup. when i purchased my kiln, it came with a fiber shelf, not planning on using that one anytime soon. but i wish i would have purchased an additional clay shelf from the manufacturer so that i would have had a full sized clay shelf. 🌞 but for my whitting, i have calcium carbonate food grade, 1 gallon which was the closest i could find online
Hello Derek brilliant video I like to ask as just starting out as a hobby is there places where I can take my painted glass to be fired as kilns are very expensive expensive
Depends on where you’re based. Try adult education colleges as they sometimes have kilns to hire, or a friendly glass studio nearby may help, or a friendly potter may help you. Also try asking on Facebook groups about your area to see if you can find a studio or an artist who can offer kiln time. Hope that helps 🙏🙂
Hi Derek, May I ask if using bath wash on a kiln shelf like Claire is it ok to still put the silver stain onto the batt wash on the reverse rather than on a thick bed of calcium carbonate? I’ll be using a small ceramic kiln. Also is it ok to take the temperature straight up to the desired temp and then naturally cool for best results? Thank you
I do not use the kiln wash, but it acts the same way as the chalk. Usually I put the silver stain face up so as not to contaminate the kiln bed. Taking it straight up to temp is fine 👍🏼
Hello Derek! Thats a very informative video indeed, thank you! As I understood it takes only one hour to heat up and cool down the gas kiln. But is it enough to uneal the fired glass? Doesn't it make it tempered or too hard or fragile after such a speedy heapting and cooling? Thank you!
Although you can fire the painted glass very quickly in a gas kiln, it is still recommended to allow it to cool down slowly. The glass is not tempered by the process.😊
@@DerekHuntArtist - a follow-up question: I was taught to bring the glass slowly up to 1,000 degrees F (538 C) at the "medium" setting on my electric kiln, to get it through the thermal shock range safely. The conventional wisdom is to do that at a rate of 300 F (150 C) per hour. Once there, heat as quickly as possible up to the target temperature, then repeat the process on the way down again. If a gas kiln can do the heating-up so much more quickly, I'm wondering why electric kilns can't be just turned all the way up to start with, instead of fiddling with slow heat-up schedules? Surely the glass doesn't know or care what's applying the heat... ?
@@grampsinsl5232 the schedule you are referring to sounds more like something for fused or slumped glass, with thick glass pieces. Most painted stained glass is 3 or 4mm thick so is not quite so prone to thermal shock as thicker glass might be. From my experience you can safely take glass straight up to firing temperature and allow to cool naturally by turning the kiln off after a suitable soak time at the chosen temp. The problems sometimes occur if the glass varies in thickness or has been etched (which changes the thickness as well) Hope that helps 🙂
Gas kilns have holes across the top of the chamber for ventilation, and you also need good room ventilation using a gas or electric kiln as there are some fumes created during the firing process.
I want to know how I can set up my own kiln instead of buying one. And I want to know how to do it with limited funds,. Cause I have everything for small glass works, but not a kiln. They are too expensive, and I do not have the money for it. So I was checking how to do it the old school way, firepit kiln. Any help is appreciated
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Wonderful video! Thank you so much for this walk through on setting up a kiln. Mine finally arrived so I’m ready to experiment. You are an awesome teacher. Taking baby steps here now.
Glad it was helpful!🙏🙂
Thank you Derek!!! You are the best!
You're welcome!
Thank you! This is very useful because I've found very little info online. There are plenty of resources for ceramic kilns but not for glass painting kilns
Hey Troy You're very welcome! And thanks for the coffee :-)
Hello Derek. Thank you, this is a very helpful post. Thank you for always responding quickly and efficiently to all our questions. Everything you do is great. Regards, Oleg.❤
Glad it was helpful!
Really interesting and enlightening, thank you! I never realised whiting could be used and did wonder how you smoothed it out. Also thank you to Clare for your advice and recommendations. So wonderful that you both freely share experience and tips, it’s very much appreciated!!!❤
You're very welcome Vanessa !
Thank you, great video!
Glad you found it useful!🙏🙂
That's great Derek x another essential video. Thank you.
Hi Ruth, Glad you liked it!
Amazing video as always, answered lots of questions I had thank you so much for the work you do! 😊
Happy to help!
A gas kiln...YES! I'm off grid and to make that much power means cranking up my big diesel gennie, which isn't ideal. I've an old gas ceramic kiln which I could rebuild for glass I guess.
Awesome! Let me know how you get on Niall 😀
@@DerekHuntArtist Will do, Derek.
BTW, have you ever tried putting plant material between glass, then firing it to fuse? The plant organics and carbon burns off before slumping, then the fused results holds the intricate white ash filigree within. It's in one of my art books, 'Art From Found Materials' by Mary Lou Stribling, pgs 217-218, pub. 1970. Another bowstring there maybe?
@@niallwildwoode7373great recommendation! Thanks
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Which kiln is best for a starterhow much im from d philippibes a glassartiat byt i like to try glassfusing too.thanks
Unfortunately I don’t know the kiln suppliers in your area. In the uk a good start up kiln is called the Hobby Fuser by Kilncare. www.kilncare.com/hobbyfuser
love this. beautiful studios💕. i just started with my kiln 24"x24", it only has one fire so far. i made a metal frame that I fill with whitting and sit on a dedicated kiln shelf, propped on posts like Claire has- im curious to see how this holds up over time against the weight of the metal frame and powder. I also have separate primed kiln shelves of different sizes for fusing and just as backup.
when i purchased my kiln, it came with a fiber shelf, not planning on using that one anytime soon. but i wish i would have purchased an additional clay shelf from the manufacturer so that i would have had a full sized clay shelf.
🌞
but for my whitting, i have calcium carbonate food grade, 1 gallon which was the closest i could find online
Excellent! Will have a look out for food grade whiting just to compare costs 👍🏼
Hi! Thank you for this video. it is useful. but I still have a question is. Can I use kiln of ceramic to fire glass enamel painting? Thank you
Yes you can 🙂
Hello Derek brilliant video I like to ask as just starting out as a hobby is there places where I can take my painted glass to be fired as kilns are very expensive expensive
Depends on where you’re based. Try adult education colleges as they sometimes have kilns to hire, or a friendly glass studio nearby may help, or a friendly potter may help you. Also try asking on Facebook groups about your area to see if you can find a studio or an artist who can offer kiln time. Hope that helps 🙏🙂
Will whiting work in place of shelf paper or kiln wash for fusing
I believe the popular choice for kiln shelves is fusing paper or kiln wash rather than whiting, when it comes to fusing 👍🏼
Hi Derek,
May I ask if using bath wash on a kiln shelf like Claire is it ok to still put the silver stain onto the batt wash on the reverse rather than on a thick bed of calcium carbonate? I’ll be using a small ceramic kiln. Also is it ok to take the temperature straight up to the desired temp and then naturally cool for best results? Thank you
I do not use the kiln wash, but it acts the same way as the chalk. Usually I put the silver stain face up so as not to contaminate the kiln bed. Taking it straight up to temp is fine 👍🏼
Hello Derek! Thats a very informative video indeed, thank you! As I understood it takes only one hour to heat up and cool down the gas kiln. But is it enough to uneal the fired glass? Doesn't it make it tempered or too hard or fragile after such a speedy heapting and cooling? Thank you!
Although you can fire the painted glass very quickly in a gas kiln, it is still recommended to allow it to cool down slowly. The glass is not tempered by the process.😊
@@DerekHuntArtist - a follow-up question: I was taught to bring the glass slowly up to 1,000 degrees F (538 C) at the "medium" setting on my electric kiln, to get it through the thermal shock range safely. The conventional wisdom is to do that at a rate of 300 F (150 C) per hour. Once there, heat as quickly as possible up to the target temperature, then repeat the process on the way down again. If a gas kiln can do the heating-up so much more quickly, I'm wondering why electric kilns can't be just turned all the way up to start with, instead of fiddling with slow heat-up schedules? Surely the glass doesn't know or care what's applying the heat... ?
@@grampsinsl5232 the schedule you are referring to sounds more like something for fused or slumped glass, with thick glass pieces. Most painted stained glass is 3 or 4mm thick so is not quite so prone to thermal shock as thicker glass might be. From my experience you can safely take glass straight up to firing temperature and allow to cool naturally by turning the kiln off after a suitable soak time at the chosen temp. The problems sometimes occur if the glass varies in thickness or has been etched (which changes the thickness as well) Hope that helps 🙂
Do these kilns need to be vented?
Gas kilns have holes across the top of the chamber for ventilation, and you also need good room ventilation using a gas or electric kiln as there are some fumes created during the firing process.
I want to know how I can set up my own kiln instead of buying one. And I want to know how to do it with limited funds,. Cause I have everything for small glass works, but not a kiln. They are too expensive, and I do not have the money for it. So I was checking how to do it the old school way, firepit kiln. Any help is appreciated
I can't really offer any advice on building your own glass kiln unfortunately.
What about eye protection?
Always wear eye protection when cutting glass or anytime you feel you need protection