Legendary Sickos: Aren't Ya Worried w/ Mike Leone

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • Pat and Erik are joined by Mike Leone to talk through how to appropriately bake in downside, which players worry them, and how they're attacking this year's best ball landscape
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    00:00 - Intro
    04:17 - How does Leone weigh the pros and cons of worrying aspects of players?
    10:01 - Should we be worried about the Cowboys offense as a whole?
    16:34 - Approaching players that are on teams that are projected to be bad
    21:23 - Drafting based on the perception that a team is going to take a step up in 2024
    27:26 - Should we be worried about the price of Bears players?
    29:34 - What to think of Xavier Worthy, Ladd McConkey, Rome Odunze, Keon Coleman, and Brian Thomas and their price tags
    49:14 - Is there ever a time where you should bet on opportunity over talent?
    54:34 - Who is the WR1 on the Titans between Calvin Ridley and DeAndre Hopkins?
    1:08:04 - How to weigh a player that is very boom/bust?
    1:11:45 - Thoughts on the competitiveness outside of the fantasy football aspect
    1:14:54 - The importance of knowing how to take a loss in fantasy football and how it can make you better
    1:21:49 - The biggest differences between redraft leagues and best ball
    1:26:46 - Leone talks on how sometimes players that look to be straightforward even worry him
    1:30:53 - Using DFS and redraft strategies in best ball
    1:38:58 - How taking 0% of a player means you’re going to be overweight on players surrounding them
    1:41:51 - The combinations of players in the first four rounds of drafts and how it impacts team building
    1:45:58 - What is the thing Leone is most worried about for 2024? What is something everyone else is worried about that he’s not?
    1:49:24 - Now what about Pat?
    1:54:40 - And now Erik’s turn for the same question?
    1:58:08 - How the RB environment in the last 5 years has changed on Underdog
    2:04:38 - Are there more “luxury” picks in the last round of Underdog than previous years?
    2:09:12 - Wrapping up and previewing pieces from Establish the Run and Legendary Upside
    #bestball #nfldraft #underdog #fantasyfootball
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  • @davidrussell8931
    @davidrussell8931 Місяць тому +2

    @51:50 When Leone said that Pat/Seagle are sharper than him in the case of who is good or not, is a self humbling case for trusting his projection rankings. For the fact that he is conscientious of the current market while adjusting. Full applause

  • @MD-jf1ml
    @MD-jf1ml Місяць тому +3

    Pat can we please get a Change Log on LegUp?

  • @brucek5578
    @brucek5578 Місяць тому +4

    Great episode. But Mike needs to stop worrying so much!!

  • @CryptoGrady
    @CryptoGrady Місяць тому +6

    I mean, Calvin Ridley just got the bag… I think some of the analysis is a little overstated there, he wasn’t that bad last year. With that being said, I’m with you, I haven’t been drafting him. But he certainly worth the a possible player that scares me for passing on him. He’s obviously there to replace DeAndre Hopkins.

    • @Nerve18
      @Nerve18 Місяць тому +2

      He wasn't as good because the jags were terrible on offense and they didn't use him correctly. Draft him he's a good player.

    • @martintamero2081
      @martintamero2081 25 днів тому

      He couldn't get separation last year he's cooked

  • @caemeron
    @caemeron 22 дні тому

    I am all the way out on Keon Coleman, like he's Jalen Reagor or N'Keal Harry... so I am worried I might be wrong!

  • @dietrichgoble8847
    @dietrichgoble8847 Місяць тому

    Love this show

  • @TommyDavidVerbal
    @TommyDavidVerbal Місяць тому

    I don't remember Caleb playing defense at USC but I probably just missed those games

  • @jerry-go4wo
    @jerry-go4wo 16 днів тому +1

    Dj chark could very well be WR 1 for the chargers

  • @theconsigliere2301
    @theconsigliere2301 Місяць тому

    Pat so quickly ready to defend Drake Maye the moment you started with "aren't you worried it's just the Patriots can't do offense?"

  • @CryptoGrady
    @CryptoGrady Місяць тому

    🔥🔥

  • @vidalrodriguez2001
    @vidalrodriguez2001 Місяць тому

    Draft the Texans out the Wazoo, and I'm not worried at all, high on CJ despite good values at QB behind him, one could see a prolific leap even compared to his rookie year in the yards and TD department, very friendly season schedule, so I'm looking forward to see how it plays out!
    The Cowboys…being a fan of theirs, I was bullish on Ceedee, Dak, and Jake Ferguson last year, I hammered him as my late round TE, and that energy is still there this year where I'm still very content taking him at his price this year as a cheaper TE alternative to the considered Elite TE’s. Already in the Top 10 in production last year, the situation for pass-catchers on the team has not improved one bit, I'm bullish on him to be able to expand his role from last season if the rapport between him and Dak continues to grow.

  • @Nerve18
    @Nerve18 Місяць тому

    Im team leone dude is sharp

  • @Kyles_Money
    @Kyles_Money Місяць тому

    O/U on 25 Pat BestBall picks during stream 😂

  • @tjcloar1913
    @tjcloar1913 Місяць тому

    ladd is good outside too.

  • @rafaaybarraa
    @rafaaybarraa Місяць тому

    Was this from yesterday??

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Місяць тому

    Best Ball is more like complex Drafting/Engine Building Board Games.
    My thing with Greg Roman is his offense has in years past(Not Ravens years as much only Hollywood) had dominant receivers. Crabtree,Boldin,Sammy Watkins all had great fantasy performances and some of them very early in their careers. I like the Ladd and Herbert stack. If Ladd’s year is anything close to that kind of top 24 WR performance those guys had his price is such a steal. Big ask for a rookie but it’s more than possible.
    I’ll also be sure to demand retirement when Will Levis just chucks up deep go balls to Calvin Ridley for 1600 yards lol😂 I do agree Ridley is going to high though especially Underdog. I dislike the Juju comparison because he had a chronic Knee issue back in Steelers days and we knew that if you had been paying close enough attention. As far as I’m aware Calvin Ridley doesn’t have anything like that. No repeated injury reports for same injury but the flashed early thing is definitely where I like the comp.

    • @HitTheJim
      @HitTheJim Місяць тому +1

      It’s pretty common across all sports that players find isolated peak seasons in the prime age band and are JAGs outside of that season. I suspect that’s the case for Ridley

  • @babydragon707
    @babydragon707 Місяць тому

    I hope yall are wrong because Calvin ridley will be in my top 3 wr exposures by the end of the season

    • @HitTheJim
      @HitTheJim Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for paying the rake ❤

    • @Kyles_Money
      @Kyles_Money Місяць тому

      I can't do it in TENN. GL though

    • @alexallegood1040
      @alexallegood1040 Місяць тому

      Me too. Not too 3 but top ten

  • @theconsigliere2301
    @theconsigliere2301 Місяць тому

    Stacking the players you don't believe in feels like the way to properly hedge. If you are wrong about a RB/WR/TE crushing that people are on, it's likely that the QB does better than you thought they would too

  • @amcaster239
    @amcaster239 Місяць тому +1

    It was pretty clear Ridley was misused in Jacksonville. His new team says he’ll be used as a flanker, similar to how Jamaar Chase is used. Will Levis already loves him. The GM and coach love him as well. He’s currently on vacation with Will Levis for gods sake. Lol All of this and to top it all off they paid him 92 million fricken dollars. All of guys are sharper than a Katana but this Ridley fad is gonna feel real bad come fall.

    • @HitTheJim
      @HitTheJim Місяць тому +1

      Shower narrative go brrrrr

    • @liammcdonald1258
      @liammcdonald1258 Місяць тому

      Lmao how did that work with russel Wilson and sutton

    • @Kyles_Money
      @Kyles_Money Місяць тому

      It's still Will Levis is my hang up

    • @amcaster239
      @amcaster239 Місяць тому

      @@liammcdonald1258the situations are nothing alike…

    • @amcaster239
      @amcaster239 Місяць тому

      @@Kyles_Moneyyeah…if you’re not early on an undervalued stack in BestBall, you’re late. Everyone should be drafting Will Levis.

  • @mtmrevolt
    @mtmrevolt Місяць тому

    It seems like Jim Harbaugh is running a pretty tight lipped otas and camp. Keep trying to find any breadcrumbs for even wr2/3 or personnel group tells an not much.

  • @jerry-go4wo
    @jerry-go4wo 16 днів тому +1

    Zeke comparable to j Gibbs in ppr, look at the stats

    • @ryant1064
      @ryant1064 8 днів тому

      Between this and your Chark take wow.
      It’s not about the stats on dump offs on the Pats. We are talking about upside.
      Percentage chance Gibbs is RB 1? Now do Zeke

    • @jerry-go4wo
      @jerry-go4wo 5 днів тому +1

      @@ryant1064 how is chark not in consideration for WR1 for the chargers? Go look at coach speak from camp. I said could. Also both Zeke and Gibbs caught 52 passes last season, Zeke actually had 1 more rec TD lol. Detroit is going to use Dmont no matter what

  • @disbandedbrotherhood
    @disbandedbrotherhood Місяць тому

    .

  • @MD-jf1ml
    @MD-jf1ml Місяць тому

    If DK is softer why don’t you guys draft there more? I don’t get it

    • @Kyles_Money
      @Kyles_Money Місяць тому

      UI blows and the softer pool.just makes for a frustrating draft. Your Puka and Kupp team will get someone taking Stafford 1.5 rounds ahead of ADP. It's just a shit show.
      UD also just offers so many contests and they're all trying to max BBM still. Just easy to stay in UD platform

  • @cdherrington
    @cdherrington Місяць тому

    Hey, if y'all could just stop talking about Hopkins vs Ridley... that would be great. lol

  • @ssx3godlevelrunner
    @ssx3godlevelrunner 24 дні тому

    Lol the Caleb can’t win in college point is so stupid. You must not have watched any USC games or followed their season whatsoever if that’s your takeaway
    He only played 2 seasons at USC, and they were one Caleb hamstring pull in the pac 12 title game away from making the college football playoff despite having a terrible defense lmao