I find it a million times easier to get room on PTC trains than millennium Flyers. Millennium Flyer restraints will always come down hard if you don't hold them up. While PTC lap bars rarely come down super hard during the ride. I also find that holding up PTC lap bars is way more comfortable and easy than holding up Millennium Flyer restraints.
I agree. I found the restraints on Mystic Timbers to come down pretty easily when going up the lift and by the time you're in the shed, you're stapled and it's rather uncomfortable. That's why I always prefer PTC trains over Millennium Flyer trains. PTC trains are my favorite wooden coaster trains especially with buzz bars.
Good to know it isn’t just me. Don’t get me wrong I find the PTC trains themselves to be worse than millennium flyers, in fact I’d say they’re far inferior, but for some reason my PTC lap bar never comes down nearly as hard as people describe. My home park is King’s Island and I hardly get a chance to leave the state, so I’ve ridden all the coasters here, and the amount for each certainly goes in double digits (except maybe invertigo). I can say for a fact it’s much easier for me to get stapled on Mystic Timbers than say, the Racer. Perhaps it’s a matter of body type, or individual rides as opposed to the restraint. Like most things, it’s probably a little bit of both
@@FizzerTheRanter That's what appears to be the general sentiment of GCI's Millenium Flyers. They're FAR better trains, but the lap bars just ruin what are otherwise great trains. Actually, Millenium Flyers can actually be worse on wooden coaster track because they're heavier overall, so I don't know why so many parks pick GCI over The Gravity Group and their Timberliners.
It’s pretty out of the way so it would be a trash investment. I think what they need is a good custom coaster that will start bringing crowds because that is all Michigan Adventure wants.
@@coasterhockygamingboy9549 They wouldn't even need a custom coaster imo. Thunderhawk set attendance records for the park when it was relocated. The profit margin (what they make compared to what they spend) is the highest in the chain. The problem is it shares almost all of its market with Cedar Point...and for Cedar Fair to justify spending what they do on CP they need people in Michigan to visit. That's why they market this park as a water/family park. It also gets those in the area who prefer Cedar Point to buy a platinum pass...so it is more of a supplement to CP. Plus this park makes money regardless of there being new major investments so there is no need to expand it in any way from a business stand point.
@@pythontf188 I heard elsewhere it was a Morgan hyper. In either case, they've been screwed over by Cedar Fair. They haven't gotten a new coaster in 17 years, and that was a relocated SLC. I think their last new coaster was 25 years ago. The park could've at least gotten a small family coaster or a clone.
Visited this park at 4th of July. Shivering Timber’s is insane. One of the best wooden coasters ever for sure, very good airtime. But I pretty much agree with what airtime thrills said
Shivering Timbers has also been one of my most sought after credits since I first saw it as a child. Your ranking is right where I guessed it would be. Great fun, nothing overtop, just a solid CCI. Thanks for the video!
When it first opened, it was definitely one of the best wooden coasters out there, probably top 3 imo, but that was over 20 years ago. We've been spoiled with so many great wooden coasters since
@@AirtimeThrills I’m finally convinced that cedar fair bought this park so that it wouldn’t compete with cedar point especially based on the “investments” cedar fair put into this park since it’s purchase in 2001. It’s a shame because it could at least be more competitive with Great America. I guess at the very least, CF didn’t close MA and relocate or tear down its rides unlike… but I’m not jaded I swear. 😅
It wasn't rough on my visit, and I was able to marathon it quite easily. I knew about these other cons going in, so it met and even exceeded my expectations. It is my favorite CCI, but I don't have it ranked quite as high as you have it.
I didn't know they removed the trick track, that's unfortunate. Still one of my favorite rides. Basic layout but on such a large scale and great execution.
While I have yet to ride Shivering Timbers, I have been on many a PTC train. I simply can't understand how I'm still alive after riding The Beast, Racer, Blue Streak, and Raging Wolf Bobs all with just buzz bars, no headrests, seat dividers, or set belts. I honestly think the ability to bounce around a bit made the rides feel faster and roughness was welcomed as just another thrill. I guess I should consider myself fortunate to have those memories.
Shiving Timbers is one of the best classic wooden coasters with a simple layout. But is simple bad? Definitely not! The airtime all in all is just great and the ride features perfectly mixed smooth- and roughness. I´ve done the same running over the parking lot to the turnaround just to film the ride. ^^
I’m a senior in high school and my number 1 college is central Michigan so that will make Michigan’s adventure my home park so this was a great video to tell me what to expect with the standout ride
Glad you got to come up to Michigan and experience Shivering Timbers! For has many coasters you've been on, 50 is a pretty damn good spot for a late-90's CCI coaster! I got to ride it a few weeks back and she was running tip top. It's still one of my favorite CCI coasters. I absolutely love the out and back layout. You're exactly right. You don't see many wood coasters that do what ST does. Pretty happy to have it in my backyard. Great review. Keep up the great work, man! Also, that trick track section was awful. It was SO dumb, lol. Super happy to see it removed a couple years ago. 👊😎✌️
I got 3 rides in June 2016 2 in the back and once in the front. I thought it was pretty bumpy and had weak airtime, but I appreciated the ride for its length and I loved the laterals on the helix finale. The trick track was by far the roughest part of the ride so it's easy to see why that was removed. It's not in my top 50, but probably would make my top 100
I remember when this rollercoaster had only been in the park two years. I was there with my youth group and we were all hyped to get on the ride. I think I rode it twice that day. But what it brought out to me was how the lap bar gets thrust into your gut when you’re getting that air time. All around good memories of the ride, but the lap bar was the biggest drawback for me.
It's been a long time since I've been able to make it back to Michigan's Adventures so I can't really comment on the rides current condition, but when I was in grade school I visited the park at least once per year and at that time Shivering Timbers wasn't just the smoothest wooden coaster I'd ever been on, it was one of the smoothest overall.
I rode it 10 times on my visit in 2017 and had to take a break after a few. This is my 2nd favorite coaster out of 79, with Ghost Rider being my favorite.
Went to MA the other day and ST was much rougher than I remember it being. It’s smooth in the front and rough in the back. I’d say it’s a front row coaster because you get nearly the same amount of airtime. So glad that something at Michigan’s Adventure is top 50 worthy to somebody 🤗
@@velocityxl2009 you’re totally right. I only rode in the back car and the second to back row was so much better of an experience than the very back row.
I am a ride op on Timbers crew and I gotta say it is the best rollercoaster I ever have got to ride so far I may of not been your op when you rode because I may of been working on Wildcat or the Timbrtown either I would like to thank you for not going in depth into the collision as it seems like many UA-cam commentators are misinformed
My first ride was in the second to last row while 2 of my kids rode in the last row behind me. They were screaming in pain and I couldn't figure out why. Later, I rode again but near the front and it was the most painful rollercoaster ride I have ever had! This is coming from someone who likes Grizzly (before the retrack), Roar, Predator, The Boss and other rough coasters. I did like the ride when I rode the first time and agree on all of your points though.
Just rode it saturday right before close and it was great. Keeping the seatbelt fairly loose makes the ride feel like a giant version of Pheonix (just rode that for the first time in July) even without the better lapbars
My home park is getting the spotlight. Your video is very fair. I just wish you were able to ride Shivering Timbers before the accident. It was running fast with borderline ejector air, I do not know what happened, but it seems a little sluggish now with ok airtime at the moment. I know the Blue train is already at PTC. I am sure the Green train is going right after Labor day. Hopefully, next time you can come this way, Shivering Timbers will be at its full potential.
Michigan’s adventure actually got a park expansion this year with Camp Snoopy and they relocated their kiddie coaster Big Dipper there and it is now known as Woodstock Express.
Finally made it here last week, got 6 rides on Shivering Timbers. 3 right after opening, and 3 toward the end of the day. It was running MUCH faster toward the end of the day. Got some serious standing air time on my last ride in the very front. Glad I came back for more, I’d been wanting to get here since this ride was built. Worth the wait? It was pretty rough but some new trains would likely help it a LOT
Great video! Haven't ridden this since 2006, and I remember always really liking it. I plan on riding again next summer since I'll have a CP Platinum Pass, but after getting to ride Voyage and Mystic Timbers this summer, I doubt I will think as highly of it. That being said, nothing will ever take away how gorgeous the ride is!
I was in the park in mid July and I think it’s a great woodie. I haven’t ridden Voyage so right now it’s my number 1 woodie. Then again I don’t have a lot of woodies as I only have ridden 59 coasters
Buzz Bars would be excellent. I pretty much agree. But I will say that I rode it 5 times in one day, and after it warmed up, it was even better. I definitely loved it. It's top 5 for me
It's a shame that Cedar Fair doesn't care about Michigan's Adventure... I mean, the only reason they bought it was to stop it from expanding and competing with their other parks😭
Not fully, Cedar Fair also saw it was in the middle of nowhere and decided that it wasn't worth spending the money on a hyper because of that But yeah competition is a major factor
I would expect it to be a Top 50 coaster for me and challenge to be in my Top 10 Woodies. Air Time looks really good. I also didn't have an issue with the restraints on Ravine Flyer II so I think I could make it work for Shivering Timbers. This one is pretty high on my US bucket list.
Dude…….. Living in Atlanta, I don’t get to ride a whole lot of coasters all over the country, but I have gotten a few rides on shivering timber’s. I love it lol it’s way better than the woodies here
An interesting topic for a video would be how there are have been so many rollercoaster accidents this year on major coasters. I'd like to hear your take on it.
I've ridden as many coasters as you have Chris, but I'm not ranking almost 550 coasters. I rank my Top 50 Steel & Woodies for Coaster-net's Thrilling 32 each year (that's plenty enough! lol) I had ST as my #22 Woodie last December (not bad for the over 110 Woodies I've ridden). I've only been to MA once in 2019, even though I live in Michigan, 20 miles from Toledo, OH. I have a chance to hit 600 credits with only have ridden coasters in the US and Canada, and not hitting the kiddie coasters. I would have to hit Lagoon, CGA, SFDK, Silverwood, EG & Lakeside. I'm 52, so I have a few dozen defunct credits that will let me skip trying to hit tiny parks west of the Mississippi. It's fun when you're running out of parks to go to...right Chris?
Shivering Timbers really hurt my lower stomach area on all of my rides, but I was close to the back and in the rear side of the cars. I owe it a few more rounds near the front.
With PTC lap-bars, I find it’s hard to get room even in the station. The shaping of the bar makes it so it restricts your lap more than your legs, which really sucks compared to B&M clamshells or Premier Rides lap-bars, which give me much more room.
Michigan's Adventure is my home park so I've been plenty of times (including just a few days ago) and I just want to say you were absolutely spot on about everything Edit: Along with MI Adventure being the redheaded step-child😂
It would be better if they weaved the track around the bigger hills coming back to the station with curves and smaller bunny hills to give you more speed going into the station.
I just made my first visit to MA! I think I overhyped Shivering Timbers just a bit. Still an amazing woodie and top 10%. Extremely rough tho. Some of the roughest moments I’ve ever experienced. SO MANY floater airtime moments tho!!
I got to ride this for the first time 2 days ago, and I agree with most of your assessment. I honestly have grown to like the PTCs, but for a CCI, it is very 1 dimensional. Still, the airtime was good and this ride just snuck into my top 50.
Mostly agree. Its a really good coaster to me. It is rough but I love it. Honestly tho, I would have never ridden it if we don't use The SS Badger car Ferry to go from MI to WI. We drive right past the park, and stay the night up there anyway. Went to the park once. It was 17 billion degrees with no cloud cover or shade. Shivering Timbers and their Arrow mouse are GREAT. Rest of the park is meh Rode Thunderhawk kuz it was my first invert when it was in Ohio. And I would personally burn down Wildcat myself.
@@brianscorner5772 It was bad, Honesly the ONLY reason we go to Michigan is for the Badger, its a SUPER relaxing 4 hour trip one way, then we hit Indiana Beach on the way back from WI to Pittsburgh. Even the food at the park sucks. Interesting fact, in Ludington theres a place called the Krusty Kubburd and they give you an option to get a fried perch dinner with perch that was caught that morning, it was double the price but GREAT
@@TheMrLebaron Oi! Only Michiganders can make fun of how bad it is, y'all get places like Cedar Point, even in Pittsburgh you got Kennywood. And yes, we frequently visit Ludington, and I know about all the cool little towns in the state. Problem is, there's no amusement parks nearby but I'm a thrill junkie, so the one time every couple years we hit Universal, Disney or CP will always be better, but Michigan's Adventure will always hold a special place in my heart, no matter how bad the food is.
@@brianscorner5772 I just dont know why one would eat park food there when theres so many little cool places. And to be honest, Im about to be in the same boat. Were moving to Tallahassee Florida, closest parks are 4 hours away
I live about 30 minutes from this park so I grew up riding Shivering Timbers. It was much better ten years ago. The roughness has grown exponentially in my experience over the last few years. However, it is still one of my favorite coasters, period. The removal of the trick track was a bummer. Wolverine wildcat in this park is also surprisingly great but you will need a painkiller after riding it haha.
This ride is great; I agree with all the pros, though I'm not as high on the helix because I don't hugely love laterals on wooden coasters. I think you're spot-on with the roughness being noticable but bearable, and the rest of your cons seem to be fairly minor, with one exception: The restraints. That's the one point I disagree with. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't actually need to physically lift off my seat to enjoy airtime; the sensation of my torso being pulled into the air is fun with or without my legs straightening. As for Millennium Flyers, while they would surely be more comfortable, they're also lighter, and I think on a long ride like this, the pacing might suffer towards the end.
In your 500 credits video, you said is what a middle of the road at best. It looks like it has amazing airtime. You say that the voyages airtime is good. But not crazy. And it sounds the same like this. But which one has the better air? Nice video 👍
Ive always called it the "red headed step child" of cedar fair. but out of the cedar fair coasters ive done it sits at number 1. (KI and MiA are the only ones ive been to at time of writing)
Yessir met Chris on the station of Shivering timbers it was a pleasure. Shivering timbers is at my home park with this being the only ride with coming for. I love the ride I grew up with it it’s gotten a bit rougher after the train collided but it’s still one of my favorite coasters. I personally can marathon it for the whole day since I’m sure to all that cci goodness.
The ride scared the shit out of me when I was a kid I get why adults dislike it but it really is a park for kids, I went to Sandusky Ohio a year after going to Michigan adventures in a light Michigan adventures more because I was too little (not literally) for the rides. They scared me, every 10 yearold will think it's the best park
I wonder if you replace the PTC trains with Millennium Flyers if it’ll knock out 2 cons. The airtime would be better and I think it’ll improve the smoothness of the ride. Millennium Flyers are just better trains all around
The airtime wouldn't be better, in fact I think it would lessen the airtime. MF lap bars are able to keep lowering and staple riders much easier than PTC's lap bars are. I don't think they'd improve the smoothness either as they're best for more twisty layouts and fast transitions. This ride is absolutely appropriate with PTC trains, there's nothing wrong with them and they're some of the better trains out there.
I got a chance to ride Shivering Timber’s earlier this year, and agree with most of the pros and cons. I mostly agree with how hard it is to keep the lap bar up to get more airtime. I usually don’t really have problems with this on other PTCs, but it did definitely take away from the airtime, which was absolutely nuts (buzz bars would be a dream)
I only wish I could ride Shivering Timbers. It’s exactly the kind of coaster I like but too far away for me to travel. Don’t think only the young like roller coasters - I’m 79 years old.
Shivering Timbers is criminally underrated. It’s a truly amazing ride.
Yep. Definitely one of CCI's finest coasters. No doubt. It's excellent.
Facts.
I find it a million times easier to get room on PTC trains than millennium Flyers. Millennium Flyer restraints will always come down hard if you don't hold them up. While PTC lap bars rarely come down super hard during the ride. I also find that holding up PTC lap bars is way more comfortable and easy than holding up Millennium Flyer restraints.
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I agree. I found the restraints on Mystic Timbers to come down pretty easily when going up the lift and by the time you're in the shed, you're stapled and it's rather uncomfortable. That's why I always prefer PTC trains over Millennium Flyer trains. PTC trains are my favorite wooden coaster trains especially with buzz bars.
Good to know it isn’t just me. Don’t get me wrong I find the PTC trains themselves to be worse than millennium flyers, in fact I’d say they’re far inferior, but for some reason my PTC lap bar never comes down nearly as hard as people describe. My home park is King’s Island and I hardly get a chance to leave the state, so I’ve ridden all the coasters here, and the amount for each certainly goes in double digits (except maybe invertigo). I can say for a fact it’s much easier for me to get stapled on Mystic Timbers than say, the Racer. Perhaps it’s a matter of body type, or individual rides as opposed to the restraint. Like most things, it’s probably a little bit of both
@@FizzerTheRanter That's what appears to be the general sentiment of GCI's Millenium Flyers. They're FAR better trains, but the lap bars just ruin what are otherwise great trains. Actually, Millenium Flyers can actually be worse on wooden coaster track because they're heavier overall, so I don't know why so many parks pick GCI over The Gravity Group and their Timberliners.
Love Shivering Timbers. Extremely underrated. The parks needs a B&M of some type to draw crowds and bring the attention this coaster deserves.
It’s pretty out of the way so it would be a trash investment. I think what they need is a good custom coaster that will start bringing crowds because that is all Michigan Adventure wants.
@Aidan Sutherland That would be a good fit. I miss it too. That was a throwback to the old 20s coasters.
@@coasterhockygamingboy9549 They wouldn't even need a custom coaster imo. Thunderhawk set attendance records for the park when it was relocated. The profit margin (what they make compared to what they spend) is the highest in the chain. The problem is it shares almost all of its market with Cedar Point...and for Cedar Fair to justify spending what they do on CP they need people in Michigan to visit. That's why they market this park as a water/family park. It also gets those in the area who prefer Cedar Point to buy a platinum pass...so it is more of a supplement to CP.
Plus this park makes money regardless of there being new major investments so there is no need to expand it in any way from a business stand point.
Right before cedar fair bought the park they were suppose to get a b&m hyper, but ecdar fair scrapped the plan
@@pythontf188 I heard elsewhere it was a Morgan hyper. In either case, they've been screwed over by Cedar Fair. They haven't gotten a new coaster in 17 years, and that was a relocated SLC. I think their last new coaster was 25 years ago. The park could've at least gotten a small family coaster or a clone.
Visited this park at 4th of July. Shivering Timber’s is insane. One of the best wooden coasters ever for sure, very good airtime. But I pretty much agree with what airtime thrills said
Shivering Timbers has also been one of my most sought after credits since I first saw it as a child. Your ranking is right where I guessed it would be. Great fun, nothing overtop, just a solid CCI. Thanks for the video!
This is one of the highest coasters on my bucket list. Really need to make it out to Michigan’s Adventure if I’m going to Cedar Point.
Cedar Fair needs to put more work into this park
Eyyyy I work here!!!! I know some people in the vid!!! Thanks for the compliment on our ride!!! It’s very kind of you!
When it first opened, it was definitely one of the best wooden coasters out there, probably top 3 imo, but that was over 20 years ago. We've been spoiled with so many great wooden coasters since
Never clicked a video so fast😂I'm so jealous of the American woodies
The park has potential but cedar fair just has to CARE a bit more
I got a michigans adventure video coming out in a couple weeks looking at exactly this
@@AirtimeThrills definitely watching then
@@AirtimeThrills I’m finally convinced that cedar fair bought this park so that it wouldn’t compete with cedar point especially based on the “investments” cedar fair put into this park since it’s purchase in 2001. It’s a shame because it could at least be more competitive with Great America. I guess at the very least, CF didn’t close MA and relocate or tear down its rides unlike… but I’m not jaded I swear. 😅
Woodies are so great. This one looks impressive that's for sure
Thanks for making this video and showing some love to Shivering Timbers and Michigans Adventure.
It wasn't rough on my visit, and I was able to marathon it quite easily. I knew about these other cons going in, so it met and even exceeded my expectations. It is my favorite CCI, but I don't have it ranked quite as high as you have it.
Seeing a rank makes me excited to see how the top 50 will shake up to be!
I didn't know they removed the trick track, that's unfortunate. Still one of my favorite rides. Basic layout but on such a large scale and great execution.
it was incredibly rough. it had to come out
Loved the video! Now I have to go try Shivering Timbers so I can decide for myself. Keep up the great content
SHivering Timbers is a fun roller coaster! Way fun! I'm glad your having a fun time at Michigan's Adventure!
I LOVE this ride so much, I rode it about a month before you, and it was a BLAST it’s my favorite wooden coaster out there
I sure hope it's stay's in the top 50!
Top on the bucket list for sure
Your the channel that makes me finding the best airtime coasters
While I have yet to ride Shivering Timbers, I have been on many a PTC train. I simply can't understand how I'm still alive after riding The Beast, Racer, Blue Streak, and Raging Wolf Bobs all with just buzz bars, no headrests, seat dividers, or set belts. I honestly think the ability to bounce around a bit made the rides feel faster and roughness was welcomed as just another thrill. I guess I should consider myself fortunate to have those memories.
Those were the days indeed.
the restraints on Timbers have extra ratchets than most PTC restraints, so they staple more than usual
Great video as always
Looks like such a great ride
I rode Shivering Timbers soon after moving to Michigan in the 3rd grade and that's the ride that made me an enthusiast.
Long time fan of AT. (Airtime Thrills) So glad you upgraded your microphone. Love your content! (Wish I could get on Shivering Timbers.)
Haha yep team Blue Yeti since...i wanna say Oct 2019
AIRTIME THRILLS IS A CUTIE 💓
Shiving Timbers is one of the best classic wooden coasters with a simple layout. But is simple bad? Definitely not! The airtime all in all is just great and the ride features perfectly mixed smooth- and roughness.
I´ve done the same running over the parking lot to the turnaround just to film the ride. ^^
I’m a senior in high school and my number 1 college is central Michigan so that will make Michigan’s adventure my home park so this was a great video to tell me what to expect with the standout ride
Love your work' keep coastering your videos
Glad you got to come up to Michigan and experience Shivering Timbers! For has many coasters you've been on, 50 is a pretty damn good spot for a late-90's CCI coaster! I got to ride it a few weeks back and she was running tip top. It's still one of my favorite CCI coasters. I absolutely love the out and back layout. You're exactly right. You don't see many wood coasters that do what ST does. Pretty happy to have it in my backyard. Great review. Keep up the great work, man!
Also, that trick track section was awful. It was SO dumb, lol. Super happy to see it removed a couple years ago. 👊😎✌️
Thats good to hear that i wasnt missing out on anything with that trick track
@The Chain Lift
Whattaya doing hanging out an MA? You're supposed to be in Mears riding the Pearly Whirly Coaster so you can review it.
@@timk987 😂 Haven't been on it but I can assume safely what it would get. Eh, it's fine. 6/10 🤷♂️
gosh i love this ride. michigan’s adventure is my childhood park, and no matter how much hate it gets, i still love it
I got 3 rides in June 2016 2 in the back and once in the front. I thought it was pretty bumpy and had weak airtime, but I appreciated the ride for its length and I loved the laterals on the helix finale. The trick track was by far the roughest part of the ride so it's easy to see why that was removed. It's not in my top 50, but probably would make my top 100
I grew up with this coaster and I love it. Currently in my top 25 out of over 250
I haven’t been to Michigan’s Adventure, but this seems like a fair critique
I rode it 7 times last week and the first drop in the back row does give a pretty decent but quick pop of airtime once the ride warms up more.
Thanks for the dinner reminder
I remember when this rollercoaster had only been in the park two years. I was there with my youth group and we were all hyped to get on the ride. I think I rode it twice that day. But what it brought out to me was how the lap bar gets thrust into your gut when you’re getting that air time. All around good memories of the ride, but the lap bar was the biggest drawback for me.
It's been a long time since I've been able to make it back to Michigan's Adventures so I can't really comment on the rides current condition, but when I was in grade school I visited the park at least once per year and at that time Shivering Timbers wasn't just the smoothest wooden coaster I'd ever been on, it was one of the smoothest overall.
I rode it 10 times on my visit in 2017 and had to take a break after a few. This is my 2nd favorite coaster out of 79, with Ghost Rider being my favorite.
Went to MA the other day and ST was much rougher than I remember it being. It’s smooth in the front and rough in the back. I’d say it’s a front row coaster because you get nearly the same amount of airtime.
So glad that something at Michigan’s Adventure is top 50 worthy to somebody 🤗
Little tip, it's a front row of whatever car you're in coaster. All the odd numbered rows ride much smoother than the evens in my experience 🙂
@@velocityxl2009 you’re totally right. I only rode in the back car and the second to back row was so much better of an experience than the very back row.
I am a ride op on Timbers crew and I gotta say it is the best rollercoaster I ever have got to ride so far
I may of not been your op when you rode because I may of been working on Wildcat or the Timbrtown either
I would like to thank you for not going in depth into the collision as it seems like many UA-cam commentators are misinformed
Great underrated coaster from my home town park, not the craziest ride in the world but always fun
My first ride was in the second to last row while 2 of my kids rode in the last row behind me. They were screaming in pain and I couldn't figure out why. Later, I rode again but near the front and it was the most painful rollercoaster ride I have ever had! This is coming from someone who likes Grizzly (before the retrack), Roar, Predator, The Boss and other rough coasters. I did like the ride when I rode the first time and agree on all of your points though.
Just rode it saturday right before close and it was great. Keeping the seatbelt fairly loose makes the ride feel like a giant version of Pheonix (just rode that for the first time in July) even without the better lapbars
I can't say I love it, but I don't hate it. It is what it is, a solid woodie that isn't a standout but isn't a disaster either.
My home park is getting the spotlight. Your video is very fair. I just wish you were able to ride Shivering Timbers before the accident. It was running fast with borderline ejector air, I do not know what happened, but it seems a little sluggish now with ok airtime at the moment. I know the Blue train is already at PTC. I am sure the Green train is going right after Labor day. Hopefully, next time you can come this way, Shivering Timbers will be at its full potential.
The next Top 50 video is going to be interesting.
I can’t wait to ride it in 10 days!
It’s amazing
Michigan’s adventure actually got a park expansion this year with Camp Snoopy and they relocated their kiddie coaster Big Dipper there and it is now known as Woodstock Express.
Now they have a kids area!
Finally made it here last week, got 6 rides on Shivering Timbers. 3 right after opening, and 3 toward the end of the day. It was running MUCH faster toward the end of the day. Got some serious standing air time on my last ride in the very front. Glad I came back for more, I’d been wanting to get here since this ride was built. Worth the wait? It was pretty rough but some new trains would likely help it a LOT
Great video! Haven't ridden this since 2006, and I remember always really liking it. I plan on riding again next summer since I'll have a CP Platinum Pass, but after getting to ride Voyage and Mystic Timbers this summer, I doubt I will think as highly of it. That being said, nothing will ever take away how gorgeous the ride is!
It actually slots between those for me. I think it's pretty elite.
Voyage and Mystic are top 5 woodies for me, Timbers doesnt live up to those
Voyage is my favorite wood coaster. It lived up to years of hype that I'd heard about it and then some.
I was in the park in mid July and I think it’s a great woodie. I haven’t ridden Voyage so right now it’s my number 1 woodie. Then again I don’t have a lot of woodies as I only have ridden 59 coasters
Ride it 25 times in one day in 2006! I’m also 6”5! Yeah I was sore that day but it was fucking awesome!
Buzz Bars would be excellent. I pretty much agree. But I will say that I rode it 5 times in one day, and after it warmed up, it was even better. I definitely loved it. It's top 5 for me
It's a shame that Cedar Fair doesn't care about Michigan's Adventure...
I mean, the only reason they bought it was to stop it from expanding and competing with their other parks😭
Not fully, Cedar Fair also saw it was in the middle of nowhere and decided that it wasn't worth spending the money on a hyper because of that
But yeah competition is a major factor
@@MegeGabe_Personal yeah being in the middle of nowhere also plays a big part in why they don't invest in it
@@CoasterCreationTV And on top of that, Michigan's a pretty dilapidated state anyway.
I would expect it to be a Top 50 coaster for me and challenge to be in my Top 10 Woodies. Air Time looks really good. I also didn't have an issue with the restraints on Ravine Flyer II so I think I could make it work for Shivering Timbers. This one is pretty high on my US bucket list.
Dude…….. Living in Atlanta, I don’t get to ride a whole lot of coasters all over the country, but I have gotten a few rides on shivering timber’s. I love it lol it’s way better than the woodies here
When will someone talk about the Aftershock coaster in Alaska?
An interesting topic for a video would be how there are have been so many rollercoaster accidents this year on major coasters. I'd like to hear your take on it.
It’s a top tier woodie!
I've ridden as many coasters as you have Chris, but I'm not ranking almost 550 coasters. I rank my Top 50 Steel & Woodies for Coaster-net's Thrilling 32 each year (that's plenty enough! lol) I had ST as my #22 Woodie last December (not bad for the over 110 Woodies I've ridden). I've only been to MA once in 2019, even though I live in Michigan, 20 miles from Toledo, OH. I have a chance to hit 600 credits with only have ridden coasters in the US and Canada, and not hitting the kiddie coasters. I would have to hit Lagoon, CGA, SFDK, Silverwood, EG & Lakeside. I'm 52, so I have a few dozen defunct credits that will let me skip trying to hit tiny parks west of the Mississippi. It's fun when you're running out of parks to go to...right Chris?
Back row or front? Which is rougher? Which has more airtime? what kind of airtime? ...so many questions.
Even with one of your least favorite restraints it makes top50. Sounds like a very solid airtime machine.
I agree about Behemoth. Yawn and it's gotten rough with the "B&M rattle".
One and done each visit as it creates headaches!
I rode this in 2018, and for me:
Pro - standing airtime in the front row
Con - absolutely insane potholes in the valleys
You said two trains collided? I guess I need to go hear Ryan ramble on for 20 minutes about block zones!
Rode it in 98 and it blew my fucking mind!
Shivering Timbers really hurt my lower stomach area on all of my rides, but I was close to the back and in the rear side of the cars. I owe it a few more rounds near the front.
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With PTC lap-bars, I find it’s hard to get room even in the station. The shaping of the bar makes it so it restricts your lap more than your legs, which really sucks compared to B&M clamshells or Premier Rides lap-bars, which give me much more room.
Can you pls do best coaster turnarounds
Michigan's Adventure is my home park so I've been plenty of times (including just a few days ago) and I just want to say you were absolutely spot on about everything
Edit: Along with MI Adventure being the redheaded step-child😂
Agree Maddi. Hi! lol
I think there next coaster will be a sbf visa kiddie coaster
It would be better if they weaved the track around the bigger hills coming back to the station with curves and smaller bunny hills to give you more speed going into the station.
It’s my #1 woodie
I just made my first visit to MA! I think I overhyped Shivering Timbers just a bit. Still an amazing woodie and top 10%. Extremely rough tho. Some of the roughest moments I’ve ever experienced. SO MANY floater airtime moments tho!!
I got to ride this for the first time 2 days ago, and I agree with most of your assessment. I honestly have grown to like the PTCs, but for a CCI, it is very 1 dimensional. Still, the airtime was good and this ride just snuck into my top 50.
Mostly agree. Its a really good coaster to me. It is rough but I love it. Honestly tho, I would have never ridden it if we don't use The SS Badger car Ferry to go from MI to WI. We drive right past the park, and stay the night up there anyway. Went to the park once. It was 17 billion degrees with no cloud cover or shade. Shivering Timbers and their Arrow mouse are GREAT. Rest of the park is meh
Rode Thunderhawk kuz it was my first invert when it was in Ohio. And I would personally burn down Wildcat myself.
Welcome to Michigan in the summer. Nothing to do, so one of the worst cedar fair parks seems like the best thing ever, even in sweltering heat 😂
@@brianscorner5772 It was bad, Honesly the ONLY reason we go to Michigan is for the Badger, its a SUPER relaxing 4 hour trip one way, then we hit Indiana Beach on the way back from WI to Pittsburgh. Even the food at the park sucks. Interesting fact, in Ludington theres a place called the Krusty Kubburd and they give you an option to get a fried perch dinner with perch that was caught that morning, it was double the price but GREAT
@@TheMrLebaron Oi! Only Michiganders can make fun of how bad it is, y'all get places like Cedar Point, even in Pittsburgh you got Kennywood. And yes, we frequently visit Ludington, and I know about all the cool little towns in the state. Problem is, there's no amusement parks nearby but I'm a thrill junkie, so the one time every couple years we hit Universal, Disney or CP will always be better, but Michigan's Adventure will always hold a special place in my heart, no matter how bad the food is.
Let us dance on the ashes of the Wildcat!
@@brianscorner5772 I just dont know why one would eat park food there when theres so many little cool places. And to be honest, Im about to be in the same boat. Were moving to Tallahassee Florida, closest parks are 4 hours away
I live about 30 minutes from this park so I grew up riding Shivering Timbers. It was much better ten years ago. The roughness has grown exponentially in my experience over the last few years. However, it is still one of my favorite coasters, period. The removal of the trick track was a bummer. Wolverine wildcat in this park is also surprisingly great but you will need a painkiller after riding it haha.
Is that 50th wood or 50th overall?
This ride is great; I agree with all the pros, though I'm not as high on the helix because I don't hugely love laterals on wooden coasters. I think you're spot-on with the roughness being noticable but bearable, and the rest of your cons seem to be fairly minor, with one exception: The restraints. That's the one point I disagree with. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't actually need to physically lift off my seat to enjoy airtime; the sensation of my torso being pulled into the air is fun with or without my legs straightening. As for Millennium Flyers, while they would surely be more comfortable, they're also lighter, and I think on a long ride like this, the pacing might suffer towards the end.
Maybe you could do a list of lower tier parks with one solid coaster as it’s saving grace. Michigan’s Adventure would certainly qualify
agreed!
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In your 500 credits video, you said is what a middle of the road at best. It looks like it has amazing airtime. You say that the voyages airtime is good. But not crazy. And it sounds the same like this. But which one has the better air? Nice video 👍
This probably has better air than voyage but voyage has the better layout
I totally agree with you there Chris!
Shivering timber’s does live up to the hype in some areas but it depends on what seat you sit in
Ive always called it the "red headed step child" of cedar fair. but out of the cedar fair coasters ive done it sits at number 1. (KI and MiA are the only ones ive been to at time of writing)
Haha theres no other way to describe it
For such a catchy intro it was a short video ;)
Hate to be long winded when there isn't much to say. But yeah this is probably as short as my videos get
6:11 that sign on the left at the end lol. (edit: Those guests are gonna get yonked out of the park XD
Yessir met Chris on the station of Shivering timbers it was a pleasure. Shivering timbers is at my home park with this being the only ride with coming for. I love the ride I grew up with it it’s gotten a bit rougher after the train collided but it’s still one of my favorite coasters. I personally can marathon it for the whole day since I’m sure to all that cci goodness.
It was nice meeting you there and hanging out waiting for the mechanics to fix it 🤕
@@AirtimeThrills yessir
Better than Hades 360?
The ride scared the shit out of me when I was a kid I get why adults dislike it but it really is a park for kids, I went to Sandusky Ohio a year after going to Michigan adventures in a light Michigan adventures more because I was too little (not literally) for the rides. They scared me, every 10 yearold will think it's the best park
I wonder if you replace the PTC trains with Millennium Flyers if it’ll knock out 2 cons. The airtime would be better and I think it’ll improve the smoothness of the ride. Millennium Flyers are just better trains all around
The airtime wouldn't be better, in fact I think it would lessen the airtime. MF lap bars are able to keep lowering and staple riders much easier than PTC's lap bars are. I don't think they'd improve the smoothness either as they're best for more twisty layouts and fast transitions. This ride is absolutely appropriate with PTC trains, there's nothing wrong with them and they're some of the better trains out there.
What're the odds, I've used the royalty free music at 0:20 in a game jam before lol
I got a chance to ride Shivering Timber’s earlier this year, and agree with most of the pros and cons. I mostly agree with how hard it is to keep the lap bar up to get more airtime. I usually don’t really have problems with this on other PTCs, but it did definitely take away from the airtime, which was absolutely nuts (buzz bars would be a dream)
The ones where this lapbar issue really was noticeable...this and ravine flyer 2
@@AirtimeThrills weird it’s not like this on Voyage though
@@coasterchaos1866 i think roughness has to do with it too. I know for a fact when RF2 jackhammers thats when i get stapled
@@AirtimeThrills I couldn’t stand the roughness of its neighbor next door. Wildcat was horrible. Did you like it?
@@coasterchaos1866 I did, though I acknowledge it was a jackhammer machine
Are u going to make a pros and cons of comet (great escape)
Probably not, ill do a great escape video tho
Ok
I only wish I could ride Shivering Timbers. It’s exactly the kind of coaster I like but too far away for me to travel. Don’t think only the young like roller coasters - I’m 79 years old.
If i’m visiting Kings island and hersheypark next summer, how many days should i stay at each?
Without fast lane or the equivalent id give each park 2 days
@@AirtimeThrills I would agree
@@AirtimeThrills Thanks for your input