everyone: it's too dangerous yuzu: yes everyone: your ankle--- yuzu: yes everyone : don't do that again ok? yuzu: yes everyone:..... you will do that again right? yuzu:...... yes.
ya you need a lot of practice from the start of learning jumps to do it if you have been injured before better not try those but he never wanted to give up and made 4lz his own i saw him do 3 times in practice like it was nothing now
Out of all the ltz done in competition, nobody can ever come close to doing a ltz the way yuzu did, and that's because yuzu does not rotate the right toe pick. If you notice, when he plants the right toe pick for assistance, the skate is straight forward, not tilted, not twisted, pretty much straight. This causes the most minimal pre-rotation, which is why it was so difficult for him to perform the jump. We could say that Yuzu's textbook take off prevented him from being consistant with this jump.
I would disagree. Nathan Chen, Boyang Jin barely prerotate their jumps either, but they are definitely more capable than Yuzuru to perform quad lutz. I think the main reason is the difference between their physique and technique. Also, delayed rotation really sounds like a 20th century-ish, outdated technique. It impedes skater to aim for higher difficulty, which is why I guess this new wave of skaters that emerge after 2014 barely use it, and even ISU itself gets much more lenient on take off than before.
@@davidz9601 If that logic holds, pretty much by the next generation we might even have a half pre-rotation for those that aim to go for quintuple jumps... ISU might as well change rules up and down to assess that kind of situation. It's very subjective nowaday for judges to see who pre-rotates more or less...
@@Gennosuke1986 Anyway, prerotation is a different story. It is really a borderline issue in the isu handbook, and it seems like judges simply disregard prerotation in current scoring at all. One undeniable fact is that one main reason that this new wave of skaters can perform more difficult quad is because of prerotation. Zhou, Shoma, Shcherbakova, Trusova, Aliev, Alysa, etc all prerotate more than 180 degrees on some of their jumps. If prerotate were proven to be a reliable technique, then by the next few decades, it may even be officially recognized. After all, this sport is always evolving, and what used to be regarded as good may become bad at today's point of view, and vice versa.
Yuzuru doesn’t prerotate on his pick because of the way he picks. He picks to the inside, unlike other skaters. By picking inside, it’s impossible to prerotate the pick but the body still rotated. You can actually see his body rotating to 90 degrees and then the pick leaving. Yuna picked at a straight with no lean so she was still able to shift the blade to 45-90 degrees. Tuktamysheva has minimal prerotatation but still uses an outside pick technique and goes up instead of going for distance.
His 3A was always better than his 3Lz, weirdly enough. Just look at his Olympic FS; he fell pretty badly on his 3Lz, and hasn't tried a single lutz jump this season.
I don’t want him to stop doing the lutz. He had beautiful landings on it in practice and people get injured from new jumps all the time as his injury was just a bad accident because he leaned forward to much on the take off. People have all had weird falls and that includes many from Shoma Uno. Yuzuru is a fighter and I hope he can come back and conquer the lutz. At the Olympics, after his quad toe sequence with the intended loop-3sal went wrong, I was worried about his lutz because he might be scared of it as he had the same problem where he leaned forward a bit too much, however he fought through the pain, kept himself up and continued on to win the Olympic title again. At that moment I felt like he conquered something that was important for him to overcome and I hope he can conquer the quad lutz too, something he was so close to doing before being derailed.
The quad lutz already comeback . In ice show FaOI he jump 4lz and succes . and he said he never afraid to jump 4lz so he wish us (fan) don't worried too much .¥. and maybe the 4F coming soon and y::6y::y;666y:66 the last will be 4A
Dude such an injury is also hard to deal with mentally. had the same prob with my first triple lutz a few years ago. Had a pretty tough enjury on my ancle and it took me a long time before I jumped it again just because I was much to scared to jump it.
How many efforts had gone into this quad lutz? It’s almost four years and even more cause he’d said he tried it as early in 2011? He loves jumps as much as he loves skating. For the sake of health he may not try it recently but he’ll never afraid of trying it together with quad axel in the future
@@dmnsngie He started practicing it at fantasy on ice in 2019 and landed a clean one before the show ended. He then decided to add it to his 2019-2020 free program and landed tons of beautiful ones during practice. Finally at GPF 2019 he attempted it at competition for the first time since the injury in 2017 and landed a gorgeous 4Lz. He only attempted it once since then though and I doubt he’ll ever try it at competition since his main aim seems to be 4A now but everything’s possible.
Sadly, I agree with the comments saying he should stop trying 4lutz... when Chen or Boyang fail on their 4lutzes,, they still look like they can take the blow, it sure hurts but their falls looks like typical skater falls.... with Yuzuru it looks like he's twisting his knees badly, even when he manages to save the landings... I now understand why this jump put him out of competition for several months,
I agree. But I don't think he'll give up. He's a Saggi. We are stubborn and competitive. And to us, nothing gives us more satisfaction then overcoming an obstacle. Even at the expense of ourselves.
He does have the ability to do a great quad lutz as shown here: twitter.com/xle0yt39bf_473/status/983204925944479749 He just needs to learn how to fall properly to not get hurt.
it wasnt the 4Lz it was the amount of jumps he was practicing at the saame time, loop llutz and axel, thats why he injured, cause his body wasnt too healthy
Nada que decir de este muchacho, muy buena técnica en su salto 4lutz !! Es que no se come nada, su salto esta completamente girado las cuatro revoluciones en el aire.
their 3.25 flooptz are now considered quad lutz 🙄? However Trusova's lutz technique has definitely improved ever since she moved to Plushy but it's still not textbook either
@@DrScarface74 bro you havent see their jump technic?? Trusova and shcherbakova have the wrong edges.. Especially shcherbakova.... They landed easily because they are using the wrong technic.. If you re gonna say that they both better.. Then go ahead.. Im not gonna change my mind...
4Ls looks like ankle killer
everyone: it's too dangerous
yuzu: yes
everyone: your ankle---
yuzu: yes
everyone : don't do that again ok?
yuzu: yes
everyone:.....
you will do that again right?
yuzu:......
yes.
ya you need a lot of practice from the start of learning jumps to do it if you have been injured before better not try those but he never wanted to give up and made 4lz his own i saw him do 3 times in practice like it was nothing now
Out of all the ltz done in competition, nobody can ever come close to doing a ltz the way yuzu did, and that's because yuzu does not rotate the right toe pick. If you notice, when he plants the right toe pick for assistance, the skate is straight forward, not tilted, not twisted, pretty much straight. This causes the most minimal pre-rotation, which is why it was so difficult for him to perform the jump. We could say that Yuzu's textbook take off prevented him from being consistant with this jump.
Carlos Cordero well said. His delayed rotation is almost scary
I would disagree. Nathan Chen, Boyang Jin barely prerotate their jumps either, but they are definitely more capable than Yuzuru to perform quad lutz. I think the main reason is the difference between their physique and technique. Also, delayed rotation really sounds like a 20th century-ish, outdated technique. It impedes skater to aim for higher difficulty, which is why I guess this new wave of skaters that emerge after 2014 barely use it, and even ISU itself gets much more lenient on take off than before.
@@davidz9601 If that logic holds, pretty much by the next generation we might even have a half pre-rotation for those that aim to go for quintuple jumps... ISU might as well change rules up and down to assess that kind of situation. It's very subjective nowaday for judges to see who pre-rotates more or less...
@@Gennosuke1986 Anyway, prerotation is a different story. It is really a borderline issue in the isu handbook, and it seems like judges simply disregard prerotation in current scoring at all. One undeniable fact is that one main reason that this new wave of skaters can perform more difficult quad is because of prerotation. Zhou, Shoma, Shcherbakova, Trusova, Aliev, Alysa, etc all prerotate more than 180 degrees on some of their jumps. If prerotate were proven to be a reliable technique, then by the next few decades, it may even be officially recognized. After all, this sport is always evolving, and what used to be regarded as good may become bad at today's point of view, and vice versa.
Yuzuru doesn’t prerotate on his pick because of the way he picks. He picks to the inside, unlike other skaters. By picking inside, it’s impossible to prerotate the pick but the body still rotated. You can actually see his body rotating to 90 degrees and then the pick leaving. Yuna picked at a straight with no lean so she was still able to shift the blade to 45-90 degrees. Tuktamysheva has minimal prerotatation but still uses an outside pick technique and goes up instead of going for distance.
it seems that he would stop doing 4Lutz but dang he's looking forward into doing 4A and im even more scared
His 3A was always better than his 3Lz, weirdly enough. Just look at his Olympic FS; he fell pretty badly on his 3Lz, and hasn't tried a single lutz jump this season.
@@nicholasliu5788 He didn’t do Lutz because of an ankle injury.
I don’t want him to stop doing the lutz. He had beautiful landings on it in practice and people get injured from new jumps all the time as his injury was just a bad accident because he leaned forward to much on the take off. People have all had weird falls and that includes many from Shoma Uno. Yuzuru is a fighter and I hope he can come back and conquer the lutz. At the Olympics, after his quad toe sequence with the intended loop-3sal went wrong, I was worried about his lutz because he might be scared of it as he had the same problem where he leaned forward a bit too much, however he fought through the pain, kept himself up and continued on to win the Olympic title again. At that moment I felt like he conquered something that was important for him to overcome and I hope he can conquer the quad lutz too, something he was so close to doing before being derailed.
I'd rather see him compete for longer, than have him destroy his body and end his skating career early.
The quad lutz already comeback . In ice show FaOI he jump 4lz and succes .
and he said he never afraid to jump 4lz so he wish us (fan) don't worried too much .¥. and maybe the 4F coming soon and y::6y::y;666y:66 the last will be 4A
Dude such an injury is also hard to deal with mentally. had the same prob with my first triple lutz a few years ago. Had a pretty tough enjury on my ancle and it took me a long time before I jumped it again just because I was much to scared to jump it.
Brian's satisfied nodding at the end is priceless. 😎
So determined Yuzuru 👏👏👏
For him.. "If the others can do it I can do it either" 😆
He has textbook lutz.
And now, the king brings 4lz back beautifully! He is such a warrior, he is brave, he is fearless!
Yea the boy brings his 4Lz back now and landed it beautifully in the competiton on his 25th bday!!!! how amazing he is~ our GOAT❤
I love his slim but muscular body
YUZU DID A 4LZ TODAY ON FANTASY ON ICE
chenle's eye smile NANI!??
Ur saying I missed faoi ? Nooooo!
As painful as it is to watch him fall, whenever he does the jump perfectly, it's always so amazing
How many efforts had gone into this quad lutz? It’s almost four years and even more cause he’d said he tried it as early in 2011? He loves jumps as much as he loves skating. For the sake of health he may not try it recently but he’ll never afraid of trying it together with quad axel in the future
2:41 geez, just look at this shaking leg... i can’t even imagine how much power you should have to do 4 Lz right and properly like Yuzuru
Lmao at all the comments saying he should have stopped trying. GUESS WHAT? His 4Lz is back and better than ever!
Where did he landed a better 4lz? I mean, what event?
@@dmnsngie He started practicing it at fantasy on ice in 2019 and landed a clean one before the show ended. He then decided to add it to his 2019-2020 free program and landed tons of beautiful ones during practice. Finally at GPF 2019 he attempted it at competition for the first time since the injury in 2017 and landed a gorgeous 4Lz. He only attempted it once since then though and I doubt he’ll ever try it at competition since his main aim seems to be 4A now but everything’s possible.
@@rosevaliant Ohhhhhh thank you!!
omg!! look at that deep outside edge
Ouch, so many painful landings >.
跳起來時左腳裸處幾乎斜曲甩上去，才能保證後面冰刀筆直落地...必須有堅韌的腳踝支撐，高度不是很高，所以下來時蹲得又相當低，看了幾次就覺得難度相當相當相當高! 羽生棄而不捨的研究精神，珍貴畫面令人動容!!
YUZURU NAILED IT AT FAOI
0:51 WHAT the hell was that xd
durcheinander badass save? :D idk impressed me tho
Neko landing 😅
Why does it feel like, to me, everytime he lands the lutz, a bone will pop out of his knees @.@
Sadly, I agree with the comments saying he should stop trying 4lutz... when Chen or Boyang fail on their 4lutzes,, they still look like they can take the blow, it sure hurts but their falls looks like typical skater falls.... with Yuzuru it looks like he's twisting his knees badly, even when he manages to save the landings... I now understand why this jump put him out of competition for several months,
tschaikowski yea :(
I agree. But I don't think he'll give up. He's a Saggi. We are stubborn and competitive. And to us, nothing gives us more satisfaction then overcoming an obstacle. Even at the expense of ourselves.
He does have the ability to do a great quad lutz as shown here: twitter.com/xle0yt39bf_473/status/983204925944479749
He just needs to learn how to fall properly to not get hurt.
more like a triple lutz with a rotation on the ice
it wasnt the 4Lz it was the amount of jumps he was practicing at the saame time, loop llutz and axel, thats why he injured, cause his body wasnt too healthy
Умничка!
and now he's attempting a quad axel like wtf?!
Nada que decir de este muchacho, muy buena técnica en su salto 4lutz !! Es que no se come nada, su salto esta completamente girado las cuatro revoluciones en el aire.
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He should not land on toe pick that could injure him. Oh gosh
I hope Hanu will no longer continue to try 4Lz
Meh, Trusova and Shcherbakova are better
Kill me now wtf
their 3.25 flooptz are now considered quad lutz 🙄? However Trusova's lutz technique has definitely improved ever since she moved to Plushy but it's still not textbook either
@@-TMHNSN- so pathetic agenda, gtfo bot 😂😂😂
@@DrScarface74 bro you havent see their jump technic?? Trusova and shcherbakova have the wrong edges.. Especially shcherbakova.... They landed easily because they are using the wrong technic.. If you re gonna say that they both better.. Then go ahead.. Im not gonna change my mind...
@@DrScarface74 the true bot🤣🤣🤣