Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Logitech Yoke, CH Yoke, and Logitech Extreme 3D Joystick Review and Comparison
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Gleim Aviation Chief Instructor, Paul Duty, reviews and compares several types of flight control systems for home flight simulators. If you have any questions or suggestions for another video, please comment below. Thanks for watching!
Where to buy:
- Honeycomb Alpha Yoke and Switch Panel: www.gleimaviation.com/shop/yo...
- Logitech G Pro Flight Yoke: www.gleimaviation.com/shop/yo...
- Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick: www.gleimaviation.com/shop/jo...
- Logitech Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant: www.gleimaviation.com/shop/th...
- CH Products Flight Sim Yoke: Meh, not recommended
This is the best video that I have seen on yoke comparisons. Good work!
Very nicely done. Love the clarity and to the point style. Not a dull moment. For some reason I did not catch the price of the Honeycomb system, but was able to look it up on your website. Again, thank you for a very informative and enjoyable to watch review.
Perfect video, thanks! I was originally looking at the Logitech G Pro but seen a comment saying it didn't have the full range of motion but the Honeycomb did, and this video cleared that up very well for me. Thanks for keeping me from wasting money on Logitech G Pro and THEN turning around for a Honeycomb later on. Much appreciated, thanks are beyond words. Thanks, again.
So glad we could help!
I am new to sim and was looking for yoke, you did a great job explaining. Thank you, subscribed!
Appreciate the way you presented. Very helpful in understanding.
I’ve had my Saitek yoke for years now and I’m finally ready to upgrade to the Honeycomb. I need that 90 degree motion!! Great video
You did very good on your comparisons. thank you very much..
I can't believe no one so far has appreciated this man's accomplishment in matching his trousers and footwear so magnificently to the carpet, walls, and trim in the background. He isn't just part of the scene. He _is_ the scene.
Very nice review, thank you!
I have honeycomb yoke for a month now and it is absolutely a winner! It has the same feeling as C172 that I fly in my flight school. I had Saitek Yoke before and the difference between Honeycomb Yoke and Saitek Yoke is huge!
I’m thinking of buying one. I’m new to sims. Do I need the throttle quadrant if I go with Honeycomb?
@@RickMeister64 Yes you have to buy it seperately
Branimir Filovski mine arrives this Wednesday I’ve been looking at the tracker of it the whole time
@@RickMeister64 If you don't have a throttle control, you can use the mouse to click and move the throttle on screen or assign keyboard commands to increase or decrease the throttle.
GleimAviation thanks!
Very informative
All the best Shaun of NYC 🗽🗽
Thanks man, awesome it really helped me out. :D
Thanks! just what I needed :)
Great video! I'm a subscriber. Thank you!
Thanks for the info, very helpful
Thank you for clarifying the options.
GOOD PRESENTATION, THANK YOU
👍🏼 very helpful informations, thanks! 😎
Thanks for watching!
Thank you extremely informative and changed my buying decision
excellent video. Have learned a lot.
I just gota honeycome yesterday. Will try it when I have sim rig setup somday!
I have bought and used all three yokes, and I can agree that the honeycomb is probable the best.
Thanks for the video
Hah, cool to see the CH Yoke still available. I had it during the FS2004 days, doing some long haul flights on the VATSIM network nearly 20 years ago...
Back to flight simming in 2023.
Good info, I might add that trying to land a plane with the two cheaper yokes is really hard as the shaft sticks and then moves. This makes your plane jump up and down. I even tried the modification for the Logitech yoke where they take the springs out and use rubber bands. Still I had to bite the bullet and buy the honeycomb. More bucks but worth it.
Good review for any new sim pilots, I would add that I have both the joystick and the CH Yoke. The joystick is a solid performer and the twist grip allows you to yaw if you dont have pedals. The CH Yoke is cheaply made and doesn't feel right if you want to fly the 'big jets'. It's metal holding screws will easily strip the plastic they go in to and then it's hard to get it even remotely stable.
Glad I found this video before I plunge into FS 2020 am thinking within the next 6 months finally am satasfied that FS is better
Very helpful. Thanks
Great video. I just bought the Honeycomb and am very satisfied with it, but I can't find any meaningful documentation on it to program it, so I am just kind of bumbling along. I am really glad I checked around and bought this one as my first and it is very different from the joystick. It actually seems to "drive" more like a car, and a bit closer to the way you'd imagine a plane would fly before the joystick. But it may take some getting used to after years of joystick flying. Again, great video and now all we need is a deck of cards. Oh, and you forgot the keyboard (uck). Cheers.
thank you man! I will buy a flight stick soon. Your vid just pushed me enough :-)
Awesome! Glad you're adding on to your setup
@@GleimAviation I have purchased a Stick and throttle :-) I have sooo much work to do and have to finish my work before I can spend time with it but I am so happy and excited!! Thank you so much for your video :-)
@@angawaanas Have you checked out the Gleim X-Plane Flight Training Course? www.gleimaviation.com/product-category/simulation/
Awesome video I am now well informed and ready to purchase
So glad to help! www.gleimaviation.com/product-category/simulation/
Did u accomplish ur dream to have a simulator giorno?
An important note about the Logitech yoke: there is a 5-degree dead zone on the roll axis on each side and a smaller but notable, unsymmetrical dead zone on the pitch axis. This is part of the firmware in the yoke itself; YOU CAN NOT CALIBRATE IT AWAY. So it looks like only 90 degrees of motion, but you're actually getting only 80 degrees with a giant 10-degree area in the middle where nothing happens!
I am in contact with their Saitek team, and they tell me this is a feature, not a bug. I replied that this is unacceptable and am waiting for their reply. I'll probably be returning my yoke system and a switch panel I purchased and getting Honeycomb hardware.
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Good video! I have a CH Products Eclipse and am considering upgrading. I agree with your assessment of the throttle controls on the top. For this reason I use a separate throttle for a more realistic simulator feel. The "trim wheel" on the left is NOT for trim, actually. It is a common misconception. That wheel determines how loose or tight the X and Y axes of the yoke will be. The Eclipse has its own trim wheel but I prefer a dedicate sim trim wheel instead.
I've had the CH Flight Sim yoke (and pedals) for probably over 10 years and it you can securely attach it--I use an old cutting board as a spacer for my thin desk shelf. For pitch trim, I use the grey rocker on the left horn and it works great. I'm sure the "feel" of the Honeycomb (as well as build quality, although I've never had any problems with either CH product) is superior and I'll probably upgrade at some point, (like if it ever breaks) but CH offers the best value out there and is certainly up to the task. You get used to the awkward placement of the power levers so I'll probably get a quadrant at some point as well (like when I upgrade the yoke and maybe pedals), but I've gotten along fine without one to this point.
For those using a CH Yoke or thinking about buying one the springs for the elevator travel are ridiculously stiff so yep the shaft want's to bind and hang on the in/out travel. Here's what to do but remember opening the yoke case will void the warranty on a new yoke, make sure all functions and buttons are working before opening. Open it up and take those return springs off. Go to HD or Lowe's and look for ones with a similar length but much lighter in spring tension. They're pretty inexpensive so you could buy 2/3 pairs and test them all. There are vids on YT using rubber bands which work but they will dry out and break.
Next...get some white lithium grease at an automotive supply store or maybe the big box store. Forget about lubing this yoke up with WD40, it won't work. With the case still open lube up the shaft and the "slide" that the yoke uses. I think that slide is really what makes the shaft drag and hang. Also lube it up at the front and back openings that support the shaft. Be generous with the stuff, it won't hurt it. When done and put back together it will be noticeably easier to use and have smooth movements--the lighter springs make a hell of a difference. I bought a new CH Flight Sim yoke about five years ago and I now need to take it apart, clean it up and do a re-lube.
I experimented with a lot of different lubricants and none except one worked as I hoped it would. The one thing that worked was automotive STP Oil Treatment. It is ridiculously slippery, can be applied to the shaft without need to disassemble anything and makes the yoke at least twice as good as it started out to be!!!
I tried a friend's brand new Honeycomb and honestly, I like my lubricated CH better!!!
How are you attaching the monitor showing the instruments? Does Gleim provide a mount attachment for that?
I'm gonna get the Logitech yoke quite soon, but one thing I'm wondering is what to use for my rudder. I've used a Hotas X and that has a pretty good ruddercontrol on its throttle. I would get pedals as the obvious answer to this if it wasn't for my kneeinjury so even if I was to build a complete simulator I couldn't use pedals. Any ideas of what I should use for rudders?
Hi Awesome vid . what sir\e screen are you using as am trying to put everything onto one instead of two touch screens
I just ordered the Honeycomb as it's featured-packed for the price. I really like the two different desk mounting systems and all of those useful switches. The next step up would be a Yoko Plus but man, over $1000 for a yoke is a bit much right now. For a stick I'll go with something by Virpil. Great review, thanks!
The Honeycomb and the Yoko have a very similar feel. You're already got the best at a fraction of the price.
Apparently Honeycomb have plans to release a ffb yoke for under $500 in the future
@@H15HH05H wait really?
CH yoke is very solid. Mine has is still going strong after 9 years. After a little use, yoke returns to pitch center just fine. Throttle levers have never been an issue getting in the way. I also highly recommend CH rudder pedals. No issues with them after 9 years. Both yoke and pedals have a really good feel; Yoke force required responds very well to level of trim applied. I prefer to click on 3D cockpit switches so no need for a bunch of extra rocker switches external to the sim.
How do you feel about the Turtle Beach Velocity One VS the Honeycomb? I know some folks mentioned that the turtle beach sticks a little bit, but that it gets better once it's broken in. I'm leaning toward the TB but the honeycomb also seems incredibly nice.
Great review. Could you please do one for rudder pedals???
Hi, have a question concerning the three yokes, how much dead travel do they have. I have a Saitek yoke and it has about a 1/4 inch travel on the pitch and roll making landing extremely interesting.
Thank you! Wonderfull briefing. I am planing to setup my flight simulator and I was wondering which one is the best.
Check out the Gleim Virtual Cockpit, or the FAA-approved BATD version. www.gleimaviation.com/simulation/
Hi it´s a nice Video. wich angle have your 3 Monitor´s . 22,5 degree´s ??? it look like my x-plane 11 Simulator. I use am 21:9 Monitor for the instroments it´s perfekt and works great. when i fly with analog Instroments, then i put the comunikations on the right. i´m stay tuned. Good job
I've had a CH yoke for 21 years. Dusted it off and tries it out. It's absolutely PERFECT ! I'm super happy. Was going to buy the thrustmaster boeing yoke. But forget that ! Sticking with my trusty CH yoke. U will buy 2 Logitech throttles though. Forget the honeycomb throttles. They break. Read about it in forums. And Reddit.
Great video! Is there any software that will allow me to simulate a Cherokee 235?
The Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant and Yoke I would love to have I am disabled and set at home a lot. I picked up a Extreme 3D pro at goodwill and like you I have trouble with it, I will keep trying I am praying that I could get the Honeycomb But as we speak (Type) I just can't afford it. Pray that I can get one in the days to come..
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Thanks for your prayers
@@busterroberts5482 If you live in the UK I might be able to help you out with a CH products yoke.
Can’t just come say that so he might give you one come on ..
Can you pls. suggest the beast seating or complete setup for a flight simulators?
"with the mouse, you pull back to go up, push forward to go down..."
What are you using to get the flight instruments and displays on that separate screen?
There are some screws on the top of the honeycomb similar to the ones on the logitech. Are they also for mounting the Logitech flight panels?
Yes they are. ;-)
what do you think of getting the logitech setup then to upgrade to the honeycomb
Great overview! :)
I've had my CH Yoke and pedals for over 15 years now (wasn't entry level back then, was the only yoke you could get). It's still going strong, but for MSFS 2020 I had to assign all the switches and axis myself. Looking to get the Honeycomb.
You will be AMAZED at the difference and will wonder how you ever got by without the Honeycomb!
I have the flight sim yoke and ch pro pedals as well and it works great. However i agree it took me a lot of time to configure manually in fs2020. I don’t understand why ch product didn’t agree with microsoft to have the auto assignement like they did with the xbox controller and logitech and saitek products. It took me one hour i think to configure to understand and set correctly the yoke pedal and trackir5
GleimAviation my ch product yoke and pro pedals and trackir5 works perfectly and it is very precise. I have no issue with throttle propeller and mixture. I have the full set for just the price of the honeycomb. My yoke is super stable on my desk it does not move at all as a contrary of what we see in the video.
I have a CH yoke that I have had for a few years. I think it works very good and I keep the shaft lubricated with white lithium grease. Still going strong. I also have CH rudder pedals and they are going strong as well.
steven 182 what is white lithium grease? How do you do it?
Hello, great video! I am new to flight sim well I am an old gamer but I always found the flight sim games very hard to learn but now with FS 2020 it looks that Ms is adding a lot more aid for people like me. The question I have is If I just buy the Honeycomb Yoke will I need the other items rudder, throttle etc to play the game or can I purchase at a later date if I enjoy the experience. Thanks
If you're starting off, go with the yoke. You can buy other things as you progress.
If i wanted to get the honeycomb yoke, but also get the logitech instruments, will they work together, and if so is there a way to mount the instruments to the yoke? or do you a recommendation for how mount those instruments to a desk without buying their expensive panel?
Hi Christopher, the instruments will work with the Honeycomb Alpha yoke. You'll probably need to make sure you have a powered USB hub to connect them all depending on how many you use. The Alpha yoke also has the same bolt pattern on top to accept the Logitech instruments. The instruments have a frame that you can use as a template to drill holes to a desk and mount with screws. Otherwise you could create your own mounting tray that clamps to a desk.
Does the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke has some kind of "dead zone" like other reviewers said, and if so, with MS Flight Simulator 2020, is there any remedy for that to make it truly realistic? Thanks!
I have not experienced any dead zone with the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke.
In the Logitech profiler you can adjust the movement ratio to make it slower or quicker with how much input is applied as well as adjust the dead zone. When I was driving american truck simulator I would tap the wheel and the truck would take what felt like a 90 degree turn so I had to go down on it. My question is.... Even though I can adjust the ratio of input when turning... Is it gonna make a difference in realism if I cant make the yok itself go 90 degrees? I assume that if your really flying a plane and you crack the yok 90. Your gonna be down for one hell of a ride at that point? Like aerobatic tricks or the point of a crash landing? Basically what I am trying to ask is.. Do you think I will get a decent sim experience if I can adjust the programming to suit my needs of input on the Logi yok?
Yes, you can certainly get a decent sim experience using the Logitech Yoke and adjusting the sensitivity settings in your software. Prior to using Honeycomb as our primary yoke, this is exactly what we recommended.
Thank you for the detail review.
Was curious just what they're all compatible with computer wise. Mine is an older Windows 7. Also no mention of the setup with the three terrain scenes and the screen with the gauges. What is it if I have to purchase a new computer and What systems work with that?
I've been flying for a few decades. Have my experimental low wing for high-speed cross-country travel. Also have a experimental extreme stol bush plane for Scenic flights and camping. But I would like to finally invest in a simulator to practice recovery skills or stay proficient when weather does not permit.
Hi Ozark, We are thrilled to hear that you'll be investing in flight simulation. You would need to refer to each manufacture or software vendor to cross reference compatibility. The full setup is the Gleim Virtual Cockpit BATD, which is our FAA approved flight simulator. You can learn more about it here: www.gleimaviation.com/cockpitbatd/
Is it possible to attach a "Logitech Quadrant Throttle" to the Honeycomb Yoke?
I have the Logitech Control Yoke System along with the throttle quadrant since December 2021.The Logitech Yoke does NOT work properly because of the many "dead zones" I am encountering. Therefore, I am prepared to invest in the Honeycomb Yoke and I am wondering whether I'm able to use the Logitech Throttle quadrant with it. Thanks. Glen.
Do they make throttle controls with push/pull functionality like Cessna aircraft I'd likely take my training in? Hoping to get as close as I can to help get familiar with the controls.
There are no consumer grade products currently produced in what's known as the vernier style. However, the lever style works similarly and is easily adaptable to any type of aircraft.
Q: Compatible or Not?
- Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls Yoke and Switch Panel
- Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
- Logitech Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant
Yes, this is the same setup we use on our FAA approved BATD simulator.
Thx Paul re the Thrustmaster yoke would you say it fine for GA aircraft?
Hi, forgot, can you tell me how to set up a duel throttle quadrant? I use FS 2020 and fly the Beech Baron 58 and would like to set up duel quadrant for this aircraft. Any help would be greatly appreciated with this.
Hi Paul. Great video. Is the honeycomb and Logitech systems plug and play, or do you need 3rd party drivers? 5 yrs ago I bought several Logitech systems but ran into all kinds of driver problems and finally gave up and sold them all. I plan on getting the MS flight sim 2020 soon but the memory of my experience holds me back. Any info would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!!!
These are both plug an play.
50th Like! I loved the video. I am definitely going to buy the Yoke! (The one on the right)
Hi thanks, great review. I just ordered the Honeycomb Yoke, I already have the Logiteck stick. For now I do not have a Throttle Quadrant. Can I use both the Yoke and the stick? The stick has the throttle and I would use some of its other buttons as well.
You can assign the throttle axis to the Joystick then use the yoke for everything else.
bravo throttle quadrant will take up a ton of desk space when they start shipping in November or December. be prepared to store your Virpil grip while you are using the Bravo (i realize that that's down the road a piece since Bravo won't realistically be on anyone's desk until January 2021). A fold-down table-mount would be ideal to store the HOTAS out of the way but they dont make one, you'll have to invent that .
I guess the Honeycomb is next...
I've had the CH Yoke and the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke & Switch Panel in the past. Didnt like the CH yoke due to the all plastic construction and the somewhat jerky movement. I also didn't like the fact that the shaft extended out the back beyond the housing. I ended up modding it by removing the centering springs and using silicone lube spray on the shift.
The Saitek yoke had a much smoother motion and the mount was more robust. The addon switch panels, throttle quads and mounting options are a plus. Unfortunately the starter knob on the switch panel is not spring loaded either. It also had this quirk where FSX wouldnt pick it up until one of the switches was toggled.
I got rid of them them a while back but I always kept my trusty Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X
But how bad is the deadzone
The honeycomb also has the mounting for the saitek panels which is good for people.
Hahaaaaa you do the same thing I do... I see those little labels on the buttons. I have a label maker, it's great :-) Though I had the T16000M stick... I've upgraded to the honeycomb yoke, not enough buttons to need to label.
I have the Honeycomb... it has screw holes on the top that accept the Logitech/Saitek panels as well. I have the MultiPanel mounted right now.
@@mercster I presume that means it also accepts the RealSimGear as well then? If they are compatible with Logitech/Saitek?
@@bw6588 No problem!
mercster A label maker is game changer!
Can you mount the honeycomb yoke like a racing wheel? I really don't want to use that mount with the clamps on my simlabs gt evo racing rig.
The Honeycomb yoke can mount with the micro suction cup plate to most flay surfaces, or use the camps. It does not have holes for bolts to mount to the table top or sim rig.
Hi! I have the CH Yoke and just bought the Saitek Quadrant. How Iconnect them to work togheter? Thanks
Saitek isn't in business, and hasn't been for several years. Do you mean the Logitech Throttle Quadrant? It should have a USB connection, just plug it into your PC.
Great Review, Some reviews mention a dead zone with the Honeycomb Alpha, Have you any feedback/experience of whether this is still an issue?
I have experienced no dead zone on the honeycomb yoke. if there is, it is not noticeable.
I read elsewhere that early shipping models had a calibration issue that caused this, and that it was it was fixed for later shipments.
Great video. Can you do a similar one on rudder pedals?
Great suggestion. Stay tuned...
Can you use the Logitech throttle quadrant with the Honeycomb Alpha yoke?
The Honeycomb alpha looks like it also has holes on the top. Are those setup to accept the Logitech additional controls just like the Logitech one?
Yes they are set up to mount to the Logitech accessories.
Do the logitech throttle quadrant is compatible with the Honeycomb yoke?
Does the Honeycomb have USB plug ins for optional items? Can i plug in my logitech foot rudders into it, or the logitech throttle?
The Honeycomb yoke does not have a built in USB hub.
@@GleimAviation Thanks for the reply, i can never get a picture of the back to see.
What exact set up do you have in terms of front monitor and three in the forefront?
This is all part of the Gleim Virtual Cockpit www.gleimaviation.com/product-category/simulation/
I'm bummed you didn't mention the price of the honeycomb (unless I missed it). It is pricier than the others. I just purchased (waiting for delivery) the Logitech Pro. But i would spend the extra for the Honeycomb (and will do so when I'm done actually building my simulator - literally converting a closet into a flight sim). But people should know that Honeycomb is only $250. Sounds like a lot, but when you look at what you get compared with others, it's absolutely worth it.
I have owned the CH yoke for several years. The concave shaped grabbers which are supposed to keep the yoke securely attached to the desk are poorly designed i.m.o...I had to attach a length of half round dowel to the underside of my desk... It does the job of keeping the Yoke secured to the desk!
Sounds like you have a nice solution with the dowel.
Hi, is this Logitech metal shaft smooth or somewhat rough to the touch?
It has a smooth finish.
I have a budget of $500 for all the peripherals, my dad always wanted to learn how to fly, I think this is a good starting point for him plus the new MFS2020 is coming out. Any suggestions which peripherals I should get, I don't want my dad to be using the mouse or keyboard so try to get all the switches/buttons on the peripherals. if you think the budget is a little bit short, feel free to suggest the best thing. I will be getting the honeycomb alpha yoke and switch panel, but I also need pedals and other peripherals so suggest that
Honeycomb Yoke, Logitech Throttle, and Logitech Pedals will put you around $489.85 at www.gleimaviation.com/product-category/simulation/
I have just purchased the Honeycomb yoke. I was using a Thrustmaster joystick. What do you use as the throttle control? Thanks for any help.
We use either the Logitech USB Throttle or Honeycomb Bravo Throttle.
Hi Paul I got a Logitech Yoke and throttles that comes in the packeds and no my Yoke want stay in the senter when I fly the X Plane 11 so I can not letgo of the Yoke .I do not know what is wrong when I fly VOR
The forward/aft travel of the CH yoke is sticky and totally spoils the experience. I have the Saitek yoke but wasn't aware of the 45 degree / double sensitivity aspect - good catch!
Question: Are the screws on top of the Honeycomb placed to be compatible with Saitek/Logitek components..? (Looks like it, but I'd like to confirm).
Yes the Honeycomb has mounting points compatible with the Saitek/Logitek components.
I see you compared the CH Flight Sim yoke - but how does the CH Eclipse yoke compare?
Its slightly better the the CH Flight Yoke, but still not up to par with any others.
What’s the monitor stand you’re using for the triple setup?
It's our proprietary stand, the Gleim Virtual Cockpit. You can get it here: www.gleimaviation.com/shop/virtual-cockpit/
Is your center screen a touchscreen monitor? I just completed a new PC build for MSFS2020 and considered a smaller touch screen for "touching buttons" in the cockpit but was not sure if it will work like i want it to. My graphics card will support 4 monitors (and i have 3). Right now i was waiting to see if the game will support. Thanks!
Yes, it is a touchscreen. We use proprietary software on our system to power it, but there are some 3rd party apps that can interface with the major sim software titles.
@@GleimAviation thank you. I will be looking into this. I'm thinking with a G1000 its much more intuitive on a touch screen and i like that idea.
Hi, where can I get the Furniture you're using to set the Yoke, Throttle Quadarant especially if I want to have VR Flight Simulator Set Up, can you provide me with links, I would really appreciate it 🙂
Here you go: www.gleimaviation.com/product-category/simulation/
Can you use the Logitech rudder pedals with the honeycomb yoke as well as the Logitech throttles?
Yes, you can use any flight control together regardless of manufacturer. Be sure to assign the controls correctly in the sim and ensure functions do not conflict with each other.
That rubberised coating on products is a time bomb. After a few years it suddenly self destructs and goes sticky. So many products have used it; it feels great when new but once it's gone you really do have to scrape it all off which isn't an easy task. Just a warning ... I've had all sorts of things degrade over the last few years.
5 years ago I was so unhappy with the center detents in the Saitek yoke I made my own. I made aileron travel the full 90 degrees in either direction with no center detent. I mounted the main shaft on a pillow block bearing, then mounted that on a carrier mounted to a set of linear bearings on rails for pitch control. I used separate springs for roll and pitch (Other very expensive yokes at the time used one spring for both roll and pitch, making pitch forces inconsistent in one axis if the other was deflected. THAT was annoying). But at least it got rid of that @#$%^!! center detent in the Saitek.
Then for the throttle quadrant I made linear motion controls to mimic my 172RG as I didn't like the rotary (90 degree) levers that the Saitek had.
Does the Honeycomb system use one spring for pith/roll forces, or are there two springs? Sounds like I was just too early for the Honeycomb. My system is working fine, but if I ever need another it's good to see the Honeycomb is available now!
Best of luck, everyone! Happy flying!
Is there ANY possibility to make some photos of the modifications you made to Saitek yoke? I`m pretty much interested in those linear bearings. I wanted to do that myself, but I`m not sure if it`s possible to mount them as the wires are attached to the shaft from the both sides. How should I do that, without desoldering the wires that comes out of the shaft?
I`d be very grateful for the pics, if you have any. Thanks for the tips, anyway!
Hey all, thinking about ordering the honeycomb alpha yoke and honeycomb bravo throttle quadrant. they do not have rudder pedals, can I buy logitech pedals to go with the honeycomb alpha and bravo? I've been looking for this answer online and cannot find it. Or Can I just use keys on the keyboard or is there buttons for the rudders on the yoke? Many thanks in advance
Hi Ross, Yes you can use the Logitech pedals, they just plug in with a separate USB cable. I highly recommend using pedals. If you don't have them, the simulator software can auto coordinate the yaw axis with the roll axis, however, that is not very realistic.
@@GleimAviation hey thanks!! That's awesome I didn't know if they would connect right and i don't wanna make a $70 mistake 😅 hope your day is wonderful!
My Ch flight sim yoke is very stable on my desk and the throttle position is not an issue, i disagree with the reviewer. The control is very precise. i recommend the Ch product with the pro pedals that are very good as well and include the brake left and right. The only thing is you have to assign the function and axis youself in flight simulator 2020. It is plug and play but microsoft does not have the ch product in their compatibility list. I spent one hour to set the function correctly. I hope they will add it in the future for future ch product owners. But after that it works really great and the pedal are the best. The trackir5 also was plug and play but i had to restart the app to allow the assignment of the camera. Everything works perfectly i also called ch product to ask if it would work on xbox. They said they don’t support xbox but they said it is plug snd play so there is good chance it will work as well. The trackir won’t work on xbox because you need the software to configure the track clip pro. I don’t see that coming to xbox. However it is very important to use flight simulator in realistic condition or you need a vr headset but there is no vr headset for xbox series X for now. I hope one day microsoft will work with trackir5 to bring it to xbox. ( it is usb but need the configuration application) by the way tou won’t believe but i found the flight sim yoke at 6$ in a shop that sell used small price stuff. It is still a 180$can yoke today. I bought the pedal 231$can but i found then at 60$ on kijiji. But too late i already ordered them. These are very good my sets cost me Only 237$CAN
What throttle should I get with the honeycomb??
You forgot to mention the price on the
honeycomb alpha yoke.But other than that the video was great.Thanks for the info.
the only thing is with the logistic yoke if you use it a lot after a while it starts to have a dead zone
How about programing it for other computer simulations
FYI guys the honeycomb has a deadzone issue. whatch a few other reviews before taking the plundge
Would you choose the logitech yoke over the honeycomb?
That honeycomb sure is sweet, a cool $550 on amazon. The logitech stick would be a nice starter for me, wish I could find it close to the $50. Sells on Amazon for closer to $100. Might have to do find it the old fashion way and check the stores.
Keep your eyes peeled on eBay. I just found the Honeycomb about 5 hours ago for $260, it’s in perfect shape and even came with the box. Tracking says it’ll arrive on Thursday. You literally can’t find it anywhere in stock, except Amazon and eBay for usually double the price.
@@Tyler-SHM interesting, ill keep a look out. Thanks!
Everyone is out of stock right now. We'll have it back in a few weeks and it will be $249.99. www.gleimaviation.com/shop/yoke_honeycomb/
@@GleimAviation I think I'm just going to pick up the Logitech flight stick from you guys. I'm super entry level and ya'll have it for 1/2 the price of amazon.
@@BaltimoreActual Unfortunately, it is also backordered. If you call us at 800-874-5346, ext 471, we can get an order in for you, and you won't pay until it ships. I'm expecting more in later this week or next.