1:25 I haven't seen Sinner drop his arm by his side at all, he tucks his arm into his body but I have never seen it be by his pocket at contact unless he gets into a very weird position to hit the ball like on a return.
When sinner drops his arm it doesn't look quite like when a rec player because his kinetic chain sequencing is amazing. What i'm pointing out is that the left arm doesn't influence the contact. It's correlation, rather than causation. When players focus on the left arm, it doesn't generally improve their forehand. I'm sure there will be exceptions, where that coaching cue helped. But for the vast majority it doesn't because it gets people focusing on the wrong thing.
This is true... All pro's do this... as I observe... because if the shoulder and the hip will sync together you have a lots/tons of power, and as my experienced also.
Haha, we have the same source of information 😅 The "waving to the opponent" stuff does not work for me. Worse, it becomes a distraction. What I have learnt from online tennis is to try something on the court, then to forget about it if it does not help during the first session, instead of stubbornly trying over and over. Yes, the pros "wave to the opponent". However, I don't think they had trained this specifically. Better advice would be to stretch the non-hitting arm sideways to improve the coiling. That helps.
2Minute Tennis has numerous good tips but I tried Ryan's high elbow, full loop forehand for over 2 1/2 years and it never worked. I went from a 4.0 to a 3.5. Changed to a Sebastian Korda type forehand and won 10 matches in a row. You need to find what works and doesn't work for you.
I've heard so many times that it's extremely important to focus what your nondominant hand is doing. I think it was Rick Perry that coined the phrase "kinetic chain", and so by using your nondominant elbow as the lens to aim at your target, it automatically forces the upper torso to into an extreme coil that's otherwise impossible to learn w/o having these checkpoints. The momentum alone from uncoiling like a cork screw is essential to achieving consistency, topsin, power and timing! And so unless you're already Pro or coach and have the muscle memory in place, for most of us having these checkpoints is extremely need if we're to achieve the same consistency and topsin as the pros. And so it's absolutely brutle and commensurate to taking a shot in the dark if you have no sights like your nondominant elbow to focus on the bulls eye.
I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say. If you are saying it’s impossible to learn to coil the upper body without thinking about your non dominant arm, that’s correct.
Since I have become more aware of my non-dominant arm and what it’s doing while hitting my forehand, my forehead has improved immensely. I agree with that two minute (Tennis) guy, but perhaps it doesn’t work for everybody. If Djokovic and many other pros are doing it, so am I.
As i said in the video, if a coaching cue is working for you that’s great. But you can be fairly certain the Djokovic didn’t ever get taught to “use” his non dominant arm. It’s a byproduct of his mechanics.
Once my left hand is tournament ready, i spend time developing a good 2 hander. I can hit one, but I don’t feel confident making videos about things I haven’t got to a solid level. Thats why I don’t make serve videos. Until I can hit a left handed serve as well as I used to serve with my right, it’s not fair to make videos on it.
Another great vid; where are you shooting from btw? Also, have you had a chance to interact with Dr. Daniel Laby? You guys have a lot in common - a focus on vision in sports, he has a new book out.
@@TennisHacker Mazatlán looks gorgeous, wow; my wife and I have been looking to move to Puerto Vallarta; still looking around and taking short excursions to explore. Tennis courts are a necessity. Are you living there or just part timing it?
What if left arm does not get out of the way soon enough? Ergo late shot and reduced quality? Or potentially causing to lean back because left hand gets in the way of a full rotation...
I would re-watch the video again, because I explain this in the video. Hitting the ball late is caused by poor timing.The shot gets initiated by the back hip. Not clearing the arm is because of poor use of the kinetic chain. Leaning back, is related to spacing and timing.
I like it…thoughts on the idea I’ve seen on a couple other videos on UA-cam of the kinetic chain being ‘Top to bottom’ in the uncoiling of the forehand? I’d previously coached many years but never heard anyone say this before…In slow motion you can see the off arm starts uncoiling first on everyones forehand it appears, that’s the basis of the theory I believe and it got me scratching my head😂
I haven't heard watched videos about uncoiling from the top, so it's not fait for me to comment without full context. In slow motion the arm looks like it's uncoiling first. But I'd be interested to see what happened if they did an EMG comparing the activation for the muscles in the back of the left shoulder to the right hip, to see which fires first.
@@TennisHacker yeh I thought the same, some sort of analysis would be possible…I’ve been standing up shadow swinging in the mirror😅and it certainly feels ground up to me
@@FL-xc1wk how am I talking nonsense when I’m purely asking someones thoughts on something? Most coaches throughout time and still now say kinetic chain from the ground up, only a few say from top to bottom so I don’t see how me asking someone a question about it is me speaking nonsense 🤷♂️
I'm sure if you watch enough videos you'll come across them. I speak to players daily and a lot of players think their forehand problems are caused by their left arm, but when you watch the video, there is always other major stuff going on. Very similar to eye dominance. Now thanks to a famous coach that makes YT videos, thousands of players think their technical issues are caused by eye dominance. When you actually assess players vision skills, there are always "actual visual deficits" that correlate with the technical problem.
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1:25 I haven't seen Sinner drop his arm by his side at all, he tucks his arm into his body but I have never seen it be by his pocket at contact unless he gets into a very weird position to hit the ball like on a return.
When sinner drops his arm it doesn't look quite like when a rec player because his kinetic chain sequencing is amazing.
What i'm pointing out is that the left arm doesn't influence the contact. It's correlation, rather than causation. When players focus on the left arm, it doesn't generally improve their forehand. I'm sure there will be exceptions, where that coaching cue helped. But for the vast majority it doesn't because it gets people focusing on the wrong thing.
This is true... All pro's do this... as I observe... because if the shoulder and the hip will sync together you have a lots/tons of power, and as my experienced also.
Yep.
Would love to see you talk about this topic with @2MinuteTennis
Yep, we disagree on this one 😀
Hah. What do you think about the concept of a reactive brake, vs clearing out of the way? ua-cam.com/video/eotr8jfcmr8/v-deo.htmlsi=MJdz9EMzYvLlnfbG
Why don't you get in touch and publish the call? Would be great to watch@@TennisHacker
Haha, we have the same source of information 😅 The "waving to the opponent" stuff does not work for me. Worse, it becomes a distraction. What I have learnt from online tennis is to try something on the court, then to forget about it if it does not help during the first session, instead of stubbornly trying over and over. Yes, the pros "wave to the opponent". However, I don't think they had trained this specifically. Better advice would be to stretch the non-hitting arm sideways to improve the coiling. That helps.
2Minute Tennis has numerous good tips but I tried Ryan's high elbow, full loop forehand for over 2 1/2 years and it never worked. I went from a 4.0 to a 3.5. Changed to a Sebastian Korda type forehand and won 10 matches in a row. You need to find what works and doesn't work for you.
I've heard so many times that it's extremely important to focus what your nondominant hand is doing. I think it was Rick Perry that coined the phrase "kinetic chain", and so by using your nondominant elbow as the lens to aim at your target, it automatically forces the upper torso to into an extreme coil that's otherwise impossible to learn w/o having these checkpoints. The momentum alone from uncoiling like a cork screw is essential to achieving consistency, topsin, power and timing! And so unless you're already Pro or coach and have the muscle memory in place, for most of us having these checkpoints is extremely need if we're to achieve the same consistency and topsin as the pros. And so it's absolutely brutle and commensurate to taking a shot in the dark if you have no sights like your nondominant elbow to focus on the bulls eye.
I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say. If you are saying it’s impossible to learn to coil the upper body without thinking about your non dominant arm, that’s correct.
Gracias Richard
You're welcome.
Greta video and love that string in your Extreme! Pairs well! What’s your string setup?!
Thanks. They are strung at 52 lbs, but I can't tell you much else about them. I chose them because they matches the racket 😂
Since I have become more aware of my non-dominant arm and what it’s doing while hitting my forehand, my forehead has improved immensely. I agree with that two minute (Tennis) guy, but perhaps it doesn’t work for everybody. If Djokovic and many other pros are doing it, so am I.
As i said in the video, if a coaching cue is working for you that’s great.
But you can be fairly certain the Djokovic didn’t ever get taught to “use” his non dominant arm. It’s a byproduct of his mechanics.
@@TennisHackerI'm calling BS. I struggled with my forehand until I was more aware of my nd arm. Now I've gotten used to it and it's subconscious
@@TennisHacker I use the nd arm as a guide in my spacing on the f/h.
Good video.
I wish one day you can get two hands backhand too 😊
Once my left hand is tournament ready, i spend time developing a good 2 hander. I can hit one, but I don’t feel confident making videos about things I haven’t got to a solid level.
Thats why I don’t make serve videos. Until I can hit a left handed serve as well as I used to serve with my right, it’s not fair to make videos on it.
What kind of strings are you using in your racket? Just curious as I use an Extreme Tour as well.
I honestly have no idea.
Another great vid; where are you shooting from btw? Also, have you had a chance to interact with Dr. Daniel Laby? You guys have a lot in common - a focus on vision in sports, he has a new book out.
This was in El Cid Mazatlan. Beautiful club!. I'll have to check his new book out.
@@TennisHacker Mazatlán looks gorgeous, wow; my wife and I have been looking to move to Puerto Vallarta; still looking around and taking short excursions to explore. Tennis courts are a necessity. Are you living there or just part timing it?
What if left arm does not get out of the way soon enough? Ergo late shot and reduced quality? Or potentially causing to lean back because left hand gets in the way of a full rotation...
I would re-watch the video again, because I explain this in the video.
Hitting the ball late is caused by poor timing.The shot gets initiated by the back hip.
Not clearing the arm is because of poor use of the kinetic chain.
Leaning back, is related to spacing and timing.
@TennisHacker no. Stop spreading misinformation. The swing does not get initiated by your hip. Stop uploading if you don't know your stuff
I like it…thoughts on the idea I’ve seen on a couple other videos on UA-cam of the kinetic chain being ‘Top to bottom’ in the uncoiling of the forehand? I’d previously coached many years but never heard anyone say this before…In slow motion you can see the off arm starts uncoiling first on everyones forehand it appears, that’s the basis of the theory I believe and it got me scratching my head😂
I haven't heard watched videos about uncoiling from the top, so it's not fait for me to comment without full context.
In slow motion the arm looks like it's uncoiling first. But I'd be interested to see what happened if they did an EMG comparing the activation for the muscles in the back of the left shoulder to the right hip, to see which fires first.
@@TennisHacker yeh I thought the same, some sort of analysis would be possible…I’ve been standing up shadow swinging in the mirror😅and it certainly feels ground up to me
@@TheTennisDaddyyou're talking nonsense. The kinetic chain DOES happen from top to bottom
@@FL-xc1wk how am I talking nonsense when I’m purely asking someones thoughts on something? Most coaches throughout time and still now say kinetic chain from the ground up, only a few say from top to bottom so I don’t see how me asking someone a question about it is me speaking nonsense 🤷♂️
@@TheTennisDaddy The only correct way is to perform it from top to bottom
Seems accurate
What videos on UA-cam other than this one talk about the off hand and arm use on the forehand?
Enquiring minds want to know???
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I'm sure if you watch enough videos you'll come across them. I speak to players daily and a lot of players think their forehand problems are caused by their left arm, but when you watch the video, there is always other major stuff going on.
Very similar to eye dominance. Now thanks to a famous coach that makes YT videos, thousands of players think their technical issues are caused by eye dominance. When you actually assess players vision skills, there are always "actual visual deficits" that correlate with the technical problem.
@@TennisHackerOff hand arm on forehand: 2MinuteTennis channel. Eye dominance: Patrick Mourataglou (sp?).