WHY 1080P BLU-RAY STILL MATTERS IN THE WORLD OF 4K | PHYSICAL MEDIA FOREVER!
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2021
- Even in the new world of physical media where 4K movies seem to dominate the headlines, 1080p Blu-ray and even DVD still play a major role for collectors...even those like myself who focus on 4K!
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Only just seen this video and you've nailed it. When a Blurary 1080p is done properly it can be stunning... I recently watched Dead Silence on HD-DVD, remember that on a 120" projector with a Sony 4k and it looked absolutely stunning... I was blown away... just like Elysium on 1080P... they look sensational... District 9... there's so many fantastic looking Blurarys... and I'm a massive fan like yourself and collector of 4k... so for me, as long as the 1080P is top notch... great. Like Heat I prefer the Blurary of HEAT to the 4k, so I've not bought the 4k... I do not like the colour pallette they've used over the previous bluyray!
Blu-Ray will forever be the backbone of almost any collectors’ shelves.
Well, at least for the next few years, but absolutely not forever, not even the next decade most likely.... unless they stop making physical media alltogether.
I was just in both Best Buy and Barnes and Noble. Both stores had reduced their physical discs by a lot. In January Best Buy removed about 30% of their discs. This week they removed two ten foot sections, so they are down another 40% (they still have three upright displays). Barnes and Noble hasn’t been adding any stock during the pandemic and they are shifting items over. The only section that was full was the Criterion area, as people only purchase from there twice a year. The only 4K disc they have is Close Encounters, as I purchased the second copy. Physical discs at a retailer barely has five years left.
@@donsimpsonshead8809 I was at Best Buy last week and talked to multiple employees and the plan is to get rid of physical media all together moving forward in the future. Extremely disappointing
Definitly mine to. 😁👍
@Goffe what I mean to say is for us physical collectors, 1080p will always make up the majority of our libraries. I have absolutely zero interest in inferior streaming, personally.
Blu Rays have existed for 15 years?? Holy crap I feel like a dinosaur. Blu rays still feel new to me
PS3 released in 2006 was one of the first ''affordable'' Bluray players and yes it's been almost 15 years!
time is moving faster, in the end times
yeah 2006 that year I was 14 years old hahah lol
First one I saw was the day No Country for Old Men came out on DVD circa 2008.
They are discontinuing them in favor of 4k players , so get a ps3 as back up .
This dude is killing it with his rational, reasoned approach and explanation.
For real he’s an excellent speaker he explains everything
about movies just a couple videos in and he makes me feel like I’m a media expert haha
BluRays still look terrific, especially with all the restoration jobs done on the films now, I have no desire to upgrade all my BluRay movies that have been put on 4K to 4K, I just do so for a few of my favourites or epics/spectacles that I feel will appreciate the most for it. We are so spoilt now for our accessibility to great film & quality of which we see them.
I’m the same way as I’m 100% happy with BluRay. There was noticeable jump from DVD to BluRay but I don’t know if there is enough to upgrade my movies to 4K.
@@chrisolivo6591 there is a difference if you have the equipment to see it.
The big changes you can see only happen on films shot mostly in the dark or with a lot of lights. Batman returns, pet semetary & hellboy to name a few.
I’m of the same opinion that it is unnecessary to replace every Blu-ray in a collection. There are exceptions I will make, such as the Extended Edition of The Martian, but I replace films on an individual basis. One example of one movie I won’t replace is Terminator Salvation. The Blu-ray of that film is reference quality and looks fantastic, but since they didn’t release the directors cut in 4K, I see no reason to replace it.
@@chrisolivo6591 jump from DVD to bluray is huge. DVD is actually terrible quality, worse than broadcast TV in fact.
@@Thecatdrums3 not as big a jump as from DVD though.
I love my blu ray collection. I will take them any day over anything that is streaming!
I bet you hardly ever watch any of them. It's just a primal compulsion to collect things. In the end it's totally pointless.
@@vidneypopples your opinion not mine.
@@ukgladiatorsfan I'm right though.
@@vidneypopples whatever you say!
Same here I always collect
DVD is not only sticking around, it's still dominating the sales of physical media
Because people are idiots.
@@vidneypopples no because most ppl just want to enjoy a movie and the story being told over picture and sound, many don't have a surround sound system
@@holylambmedia I have no idea what you're trying to say.
@@vidneypopples He is saying lots of people do not care about the best quality picture or sound, and just go with what’s cheapest and most convenient
@@vidneypopples there are a lot of titels you cant buy on bluray or 4k
That why most poeple still buy dvd
If you are looking for a title and you can only buy that on dvd format you dont have much choice
By the way dvd still looks good
Lots of movies still need to come out on blu Ray
Put them on 4K
Avatar, The Abyss DC, Aliens ... skip BluRay and go right to a 4K release would help 4K to make a bigger dent in the physical media market.
A lot of people who would buy these releases don't have 4k players and have no intention of buying one so this won't happen. The companies would lose out on sales, they would need released on both. I've a 4k TV and a 4k player and I've no interest in 4k but I have been buying these releases on blu ray in the UK (released as the hmv premium range)
@@Thecatdrums3 the 4K bluray market is to niche. Says a lot Criterion moved from DVD to bluray but they've yet to release a 4K Bluray.
Lot's of movies only had a VHS release
I wish The Abyss and True Lies would come to bluray and 4k.
There are ways, bro. There are ways 😏
Will never happen as long as Cameron is alive. Throw in the fact Disney has Fox now, your odds of winning the lottery are better.
The abyss god yes please
There are ways if you know where to look. Screw waiting for Cameron or Disney, it will absolutely never happen.
@@ddc2957 I have used a way to get a better version of The Abyss over my DVD. Looks pretty darn good and sounds good as well. Tried the same way for True Lies as well but that one has problems with motion on my setup. It is real jittery. Picture and sound is better, but the jittery is so bad I prefer my DVD. Oh well. If douchebag Cameron does actually release, I will buy.
Best thing about Blu-Ray is watching restored films pre-1980. Anyone who remembers watching things like Lawrence of Arabia, or even the Good, Bad, Ugly on old television or VHS will appreciate Blu Ray the most
physical media for life
physical media forever
I buy on DVD BluRay 3D BluRay and 4K UltraHD BluRay I don’t mind 1080p as long as it looks good
Same. I buy DVD , BR , 4K BR. And i have a small collection of VHS.
@@M3LTUP exactly
I don't buy DVD anymore, but I have a collection of them. The anamorphic transfers are still worth watching. The older non-anamorphic windowboxed transfers are... unfortunate.
I buy both blu ray and 4K but sell them right after watching them except historic movies like 1917 which is a photography Marvel. I do collect 3D movies no matter what format they’re in. I already have over 200 titles and collection is growing at a steady pace. I hope Hollywood keeps on making 3D/ converting 2D into 3D for people like me who are diehard fan of 3D.
Life is in 3D then why should we watch movies in 2D?
@@iSleepDoc I do the same. I buy alot of movies. And i sell alot of them after i watch them. Not every movie is worth owning.
I feel like the 4K sales would go up if people knew more about the benefits. Blu-ray should already be the standard for everyone. Can’t imagine buying for example Tenet on DVD.
Can’t imagine buying Tenet on any format.
@@joblo1978 Can’t imagine what your collection looks like without it.
@@joblo1978 yeah well that wasn’t the point. The point was that buying a new title in 2021 on DVD is dumb. Can’t imagine watching IMAX scenes in 480p.... It doesn’t matter what you think about Tenet as a film but the 4K is simply stunning in every way.
@@joblo1978 W
Someone put tenet on nintendo ds cartridges lmao
It's also worth noting that upscaling tech is really good. A 1080p blu ray on my ub820 looks and sounds MILES better than any 4k stream even comes close to.
Not true.
I have the same dvd player, But not just video upscaling, The Audio is Full strength, no compression, which is huge on my Home theater.
Mattjrodes?@@vidneypopples
While I'll take a UHD over a Blu-ray any chance I get, I'm still more than happy with Blu-ray. It's extremely close to the theatrical experience as far as resolution is concerned. If I can only get a Blu-ray instead of an UHD, I'm content. UHD feels like icing on the cake to me. If it happens, great. If not, Blu-ray is fantastic as it is.
Agreed 100%
When Arrow released TREMORS, they did 4K and Blu-ray only sets. So I bought one of each so I wouldn't have regrets like I did with the BLADE RUNNER briefcase editions back in '07. I shoulda got both but only got 1.
Perfectly stated!
@Steven Davies HDTVTest's channel has a video talking about that and how you can possibly get around it if it is indeed the problem.
Im the same way. I will get action movies or movies I feel look really great or a fav of mine in 4k. I grab reg blurays whenever I find em to supplement. Cuz he upconversion in TVS and players are great and the movies still look great.
I got discouraged and quit collecting blu rays about 5 years ago bc I thought wide availablity of streaming, often at 4k res, had made them obsolete. Of course I did absolutely no research on the quality of streaming vs physical and just assumed 4k good, 1080p bad and moved on. I’m glad I found your channel. It’s really helped encourage me to start up collecting again.
have you bought a 4K UHD player which also upscales normal blu rays to 4K? They look amazing
Just got a 4k player and 1080p blu rays look great, 4k doesn't seem that much of an upgrade over it, although 4k blu rays does have some good features.
@@mattfm101i disagree , 4K and HDR can be a huge upgrade over its blu ray version. you’re selling 4K UHD short. i just started collection movies again cause of 4K UHD and getting a LG Oled recently.
I own an LG G1@@Hypno_BPM
Even when I get a 4K title , I ensure it has the standard 1080 Bluray in there with the 4K disc. Standard Bluray is still my default collection choice. 4K is a bonus if available and DVD if no other choice.
I liked they include the Blu-ray just in case you don't have access to a 4K player sometimes but I also think that holds back the format because if they would release some titles with only the 4k diac maybe they would be cheaper but a lot of times they don't have enough space for the special feature so you're going to need a Blu-ray disc anyway so you might as well include the movie on the disc as well.
I'll buy 4ks only if they are cheap. Usually I just stick to blurays because the quality is still awesome and of course as implied, they are usually cheaper.
I'm still kicking myself for not buying MOTHER! when it went on sale for $10. I watch that fucker every week now waiting for Round 2.
I would recommend a few just based on how awesome the 4k disc is. Otherwise I do have some bluray discs that rival some 4ks I own. But man sometimes I wish some more titles would get 4k releases for the simple fact that their bluray transfers were just not good or just good enough
if it's a film i don't own yet, I'm willing to buy 4K at full price, but if i'm upgrading, yeah I wait for sales
You must own The Matrix [1999] & Predator [1987] in 4K, both have been digitally remastered. Predator in 4K looks like it was filmed last year.
@@AneudiD78 yeah I definitely have to upgrade the first two alien movies, predator, the Matrix, every Christopher Nolan movie, select Spielberg movies, the mcu movies all to 4k.
I'm over 50 and I have to put on glasses to see all that high resolution anyway. So I buy em all. If it's a movie or series I want, I'm happy to have it in any format.
1080p blu ray excites me as much as 4k. Been saying this forever. The upscale on 4k players on tvs is magnificent
Blu ray looks way better than DVD, it's amazing how well blu ray holds up
Dvd is so much better than VHS, nobody needs better!
Blu lazers are reverse amplifiers.
4K is 3 lazers combined.
Red blue and green.
Shadow details are much better in 3 lazer amplifiers.
@@brandonlee7382 blu lazers are reverse amplifiers.
Instead of light being amplified 1st, blu-ray's amplify it last.
Blu is a reverse amplifier to red lazer DVD.
4K is red, blue and green lazers combined.
They're all unique amplifiers.
Wow I had no idea 4k was still under 1000 movies! That's nuts. 😳
All my classic non 4K blurays still look awesome even on my new large 4K TV! If I can't find movie on 4K Bluray, I just look for fullHD Bluray. On the other hand, DVDs look really rough. I can't justify a purchase of a DVD anymore.
Well said Romando! I think dvds were only designed to look good on CRT TVs. On a 4K tv they look even worse than 1080p streaming services. 4K blu ray and 1080p blu ray all the way💯
On a bluray , DVDs look much better than some.
After seeing how good DVDs look played on my Panasonic 820 to my Sony 4k TV I have been buying DVDs again. Especially at Goodwill!
$2/each babyyy, especially when older movies just don't look as good as modern movies on Blu-Ray, why spend 10-20x more? Save the money and have lunch instead lol
I've been upgrading a lot of my DVDs to Bluray simply because I didn't realize a bluray of it was out. I'm only getting 4k stuff of things I actually enjoy and never get sick of watching multiple times.
I miss video stores so much… . Im not talking about Blockbuster, but small stores. . Going to the store, talking to the (usually) owner and others about movies there. it was a very nice time in itself. Golden age for me was when DVD came out, upto 2004 aprox.
My cousin is a collector and everytime he upgrades a movie to 4k, he kicks the bluray down to me, and I love him for that lol
You're a very lucky boy indeed!
Blurays are a bargain in my mind. Given the choice between renting a HD movie online (which I've only done once) for $10-12 and only being able to watch it for 48 hours, *or* waiting a few months until the prices drop and owning it on pristine Bluray for $10-12 I obviously go for the latter. Btw, if I want to "own" the movie on some streaming service which offers sales for films it's usually *more expensive* . I can get 4 Blurays of quality films for $20 and watch them whenever I want.
Physical Media for life, but unless its a new release, most HD rentals are at most like $4, where are you renting from?
unfortunately people are extremely short sighted and cant see the logic of that. The see the convenience of streaming as a deal even if it means paying more and having a limited selection. I said this back when netflix drove blockbuster out of business but nobody cared. You used to be able to rent movies for 99 cents and keep it for a week. Now you can stream a 30 yr old movie for $5 and you have a day to watch it. People scoff at buying physical media but I buy a movie for ten bucks and watch it a hundred times while you pay five bucks every time you want to watch Die Hard.
@@dash4800 Tell me about it. A few months back I saw the newly remastered version of Escape from New York in the movie theater (the only film I've seen at a theater during this Covid-19 crisis) and a few weeks later I saw that it was available on Netflix. Unfortunately they wanted $5 as the rental fee. I checked how much the newly released Remastered BluRay was and saw that I could get it for $11 (in a few months the price will drop to $5-7). I immediately ordered it and got it in my mailbox two days later.
I watched it and was amazed how great the sound is as well as the transfer on HD. The best part, this Bluray is mine forever and I can watch it wherever I want (provided there is a Bluray player), whenever I want. AND in superior quality to streaming due to a higher bit stream.
My friend wanted to see EFNY as well and saw it as a "new film" on Netflix. I saw when he saw that it came with a $5 rental price. He just sighed and said:"So you have to pay $5 to see a 40 year old classic?"
It's the same thing with any classic. On these "convenient" streaming sites you often have to pay for the "privilege" of seeing them for 24-48 hours. So in my mind paying the "double rental fee" and actually owning a physical copy of the classic film makes infinitely more sense. AND as is often the case with cult classics on streaming sites - they disappear soon enough anyway, meaning you've got to watch them as long as they have it available and then wait who knows how long before they show it on their list again.
Like I said, after a few months the price on the Blurays drop and you actually can get the film *cheaper* . I saw films like 1917 and Spider-man:Far from home for $5 on bluray. Classics like The Shining, Carrie, The Terminator and Silence of the Lambs are just $5 on bluray. Why the h*ll would anybody pay MORE to rent them online or to "own" them on some streaming service??
I saw "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" on Netflix three years ago. It disappeared after a month and thus far I've never seen it re-emerge. This is an example of the limited selection you mention. I'm waiting for the 4K transfer of this film and then I will purchase it, I've heard the original Bluray is a bit shoddy or I would have purchased it long ago.
If one is into cult classics, cult favorite horror movies, classic tv shows or world cinema then dvd/bluray/UltraHD-Bluray (physical media) is still the way to go in my mind.
Streaming actually leads to *less choices* and an increasingly limited selection, while prices stay the same or are more expensive. People are unwittingly getting conned all in the name of "convenience". Customer convenience has ruined many a quality product. This is also why we're getting all these formulaic films recently which seem to have been born from a Disney committee.
The bottom line is that people can stream all they want, *I want to be able to own films on physical media and not be limited by network availability/speed, a given amount of time to see the film or the possibility of losing ownership of the film altogether if they go out of business (like what happened to Google Music).*
@@paulallen8109 that was a wonderful and well thought through answer. I’m a fan of classic movies and have started collecting DVD when the became available, as this allowed me to watch movies in their original version, instead of the dubbed versions released in my home country. Due to the age of my collection I never even considered switching to blue ray.
For me sound and picture are good enough, and I watch these movies and shows for the stories, not the effects. Streaming makes indeed very little financial sense. Particularly with changes made by the streaming or Tv station. Physical media, give a guarantee of ownership and consistency.
1080p blu ray movies still look really good. Especially with the right tv/player combo. I recently bought Almost Famous on blu ray and it looked stunning! It easily rivals some 4k disc. Great video.
almost famous is a unique and fun movie. Very rich in character with a simple story told in a california way about something that only kate hudson could have brought it out. Very emotional. Even the daughter who left the house was realistic. Its just sad all around so many stories that were told.
Yep, how they film it and produce it is half the battle.
The gap between DVD and Blu-ray releases is way bigger than I ever thought it would be. Sure I knew there are lots of movies on DVD that isn't on Blu-ray, I have a bunch of them in my collection. But didn't have any idea how big of a gap that is! From now on I'm grateful for every new Blu-ray release, 4K or not.
I’ve noticed Best Buy is doing their part to hasten the demise of physical media. A few months ago, they had a huge section of the stores devoted to discs(DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K), and a special rack devoted to new releases. Now there’s a tiny corner of the stores with a lot fewer discs, and they don’t seem to be getting any new releases anymore. I hate having to rely on Amazon, but Best Buy, and Walmart(still has lots of discs but very few of them desirable) are leaving me no choice.... 🤨
Our supermarkets in Northern Ireland seem to be doing the same. My local Sainsbury reduced their movie section by 50%. They also have a section in a different part of the store where they sale digital vouchers for movies (not sure if it's to rent or buy, haven't really been I terested enough to read the cards) just seems to be the way things are going
The Best Buy where I live isn't downscaling theirs. They seem to be selling enough that they're keeping it stocked, albeit the selection is a bit sparser. But they carry lots of UHDs and even Shout! Factory discs.
Same here. I remember how pissed I was when I had to start buying old movies online, now I’m afraid I’ll be doing it with new movies too.
@@Theomite My area was the same not long ago, but it didn’t take them long to purge what once was a great selection, down to a small fraction.
You should buy what you want asap, those titles might not be available in store much longer.
@@artamussumatra6286 Well shit. Doesn't help that they close earlier out here than the other stores, too. Man, collecting sucks sometimes.
If too many people shunts Blu-Ray releases hoping for 4K, the studios will see that as a decrease in interest and put out less of both. Everything is money for them, and if they don't make any money they're not gonna spend any to bring us more physical releases.
I literally can not tell the difference between 4k and 1080p. I wear glasses and still can't see the difference. Also the sound only sounds louder most of the time not clearer. So I just prefer regular blue rays.
@@Kameron-The-Crafter I have a 4K UHD TV, but it's only 40 inches and I almost never watch movies on it. Me and my dad have a setup with a projector and a 98 inch "screen"/"canvas"? (don't know what to call it in english) and that is still running at 1080p and 5.1 sound and that works great for us. When this projector has served it's time we'll probably get a 4K to replace it, but we're in no hurry. I have somewhere between 150-200 4K discs, but I've bought less than 10 of them to get the 4K specifically, most of them are steelbooks that come with 4K and regular Blu-Ray combined.
More than 4K I wish that 3D wasn't such a short lived format. I know loads of movies that were supposedly 3D had next to no discernible difference to just regular blu-ray and was basically a scam so they could charge extra at the cinema and for the physical release, but there were also many really good 3D movies. It's defiantly the best way to watch Thor Ragnarok IMO.
@@BlixthandI don't think 4k blue rays are long for this world. Most people would not see a improvement unless. They have the right gear. And besides blue ray has all the the kids, and indie entertainment, Most people I know who watch movies don't bother with holly wood anymore they don't care about it. I would just stick with standard blue rays. I don't know why I even bought any. Most people I know can't afford all the stuff needed for 4k.
@@Blixthand since you have a 40inch you won't notice a big difference that's what I have.
Films at home is the most educational channel on physical media and why it's so important still in todays age
Everyone I know insists that streaming is best and I'm just wasting my time buying obsolete technology, but at least I own something at the end of the day. They take titles off streaming all the time.
Not only that, but Blu-ray is actually superior to streaming because of way higher sound and picture quality. I can’t stand it when I stream a movie/show and see blocky artifacts in dark scenes and fast scenes.
Are you confusing streaming (à la Netflix, etc) with digital downloads? I own at least 300 films purchased on iTunes(now Apple TV), many in 4K, not one of which has been removed in 5 years.
Also, people frequently confuse owning the physical medium ie, the disk, with owning the content ie, the film. Whatever medium you purchase, you are being granted a licence to view the content by the copyright holder, but you do NOT, and will never own the actual film (copy) itself.
4k format is still evolving with HDR and such. DVD standards haven't changed in a long time, plus you can get DVD for $2.99 at places like Wal-mart.
Bluray is my fav because it looks great and it's ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE which is a big deal for myself haha
Yes and thanks to 4K Blu-ray discs are more affordable now than five years ago.
Especially second hand. I always find great titles for like $5
@@josephjimenez4182 ooh yeah, I am a big regular in that area haha
@@josephjimenez4182 hell I picked up like 9 Blu-ray movies for under 35$ and one movie that just made it to Blu-ray in the usa. If you like funny action movies look up "the cowboy way" it's kinda pricey, but it's definitely worth a watch.
Same here. Bang for buck is unbeatable. The quality is good enough that I can sit back and enjoy the film.
people buy 4k TVs then go and watch SD DVDs on them, go figure
Probably why cgi has gotten so worse. They know what people are watching it on
Upscaling these days is impressive
The problem is many non-flagship 4k TVs don't really have the adequate performance for many to see much difference between 1080p to 4k HDR. Then if you have a higher end 4k tv, it makes even dvds look better then ever and if you don't have a 4k comparison to compare to, you don't grasp the benefits over dvd.
@@djd0118 Don I have a Sony 9505, I'd be interested in your thoughts regarding it being 'Higher end'. My disc spinner is an oppo 203
@@bzrdbrew It's pretty sloppy actually, with images usually getting warped on same way.
From DVDs to BluRay my mind was blown but now to 4k Blu-ray am not that blown away
Wow! Those numbers are eye opening! I always thought DVD released a lot more titles than later formats. But I didn't realize how few titles released with each format upgrade.
Thank you for pointing out that finding a movie on physical media can be a win with any format, better than no release. Found the DVD for Captain Nemo and the Underwater City from WB Archive collection. Had never seen it on any media before, not even VHS or LaserDisc. Would prefer a Blu Ray, but happy to find the DVD.
I can definitely see why things are still coming out on Blu-Ray. I will spend the money to get movies like Alien, and 2001: A Space Odyssey in 4k, but for comedies like Office Space or something 1080p is perfectly acceptable.
Yes. I have Dvds that will never have a Bluray release and I have Blurays that will probably never have a 4k release. When physical media goes away I'll be very lucky to have them.
lol I still buy Blurays, DVD's and VHS, some movies never got a release beyond VHS. There is a certain charm to me watching Back to the future on VHS on a CRT, it reminds me of the way I watched it as a kid.
Very true 👍🏻🇬🇧 I still keep my VHS and DVD player.
And a lot of my blu rays came with DVDS too.
Been a movie collector since I was 10 and I will never quit buying physical media. I hope I'll get a blu-ray of Bringing Out The Dead in my collection some day.
I've been pleased with some of the Kino Lorber line of Blu-rays for older films. Arrow is doing good stuff as well. Criterion is always exceptional.
Criterion is fantastic but expensive like $27 a film . They do have some action films but also the sound is just as good .
Lawrence of Arabia is a good example, looks amazing on Blu-ray and can’t get a standalone in 4K. I just recently started collecting 4K (only) and have found myself buying regular Blu-ray for movies I enjoy, they are usually a lot cheaper also.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I just built my first home theater and started building a physical media collection. I hesitated buying Blu rays because I thought they might look terrible compared to 4k, but I finally caved and bought some and they look great upscaled to 4k. But more importantly, the audio is SO much better compared to streaming. I didn't realize how important that was and I'm glad I picked up titles that were only available in HD.
So true. There are countless "rare" dvds that are worth hundreds of dollars because they are out of print cult classics and thus are sought after. Indeed, even VHS films that are rare, underground and criminally underappreciated, still have currency. Collectors not only seek high definition and peerless transfers; we also find pleasure in the hunt. Let the games begin if they haven't already.
Do you have a list of the dvds that are worth the most?
DVD suck, after 5-10 years they start to get foggy, after 15-20 years most DVDs are almost done, they just rot away, most of my DVDs are not playing any more
Blurays still rock. Especially with so many bluray coming with an Atmos audio track.
Why won't dvd end
I am actually preferring to collect Blu-Ray more now in 2023. I love how they bundle collections into one case like Spider Man, the MCU, etc. saves space and I want a minimalist collection if that makes sense. Plus 1080p on my 4K OLED still looks stunning. Great audio too.
Yeah I am shocked how well 1080p looks upscaled on a 4K Oled TV. It’s better then what it looked like on a 1080p TV that 4K doesn’t blow me away because it’s only slightly better then the upscaled 1080p.
I still buy blu rays for a few reasons, for one there are tons of movies released on blu ray that aren’t on 4k. Another reason is that this book store down the road from me has hundreds of them and they’re 5$ a piece no matter what, even steel books.
With rare exception, I won't be buying 4K UHD movies to replace most of my Blu-ray movies. I have too much money invested in Blu-rays to replace them. Depending on the movie, I just don't see the need to go from Blu-ray to 4K UHD. There are a few of my regular DVDs that I will upgrade to 4K UHD when they become available, as that's a significant jump in quality. But for the most part, and for me, the bang for the buck in going from Blu-ray to 4K UHD just isn't worth it.
With how many bad 4K remasters there are most 4K UHD movies aren’t worth it. I only selectively buy a few.
I have a massive Blu-ray collection. I now buy 4K discs but a while back I started to buy 4K versions of Blu-ray’s I already owned. I stopped after realizing how well TVs now along with Panasonic 820 do such a great job upscaling! That being said, I will rebuy a film if it’s been formatted in Dolby Vision and it’s a movie I really enjoy..
I would love to have an update of this video. It feels like 4k have increased a lot the last years.
Love your channel bro! I’m a blu ray collector my self and will just make my collection bigger! Thanks for telling people why physical media is awesome!
Good discussion topic! I'm not sure it needs to be said, especially for us movie lovers who collect physical media, but if someone needs to hear it, you made things nice and clear.
As somebody who owns 700 Blu-Rays now... I have no interest in trading in my Blu-Ray catalog to upgrade to 4K. I already went through that once, with DVDs > BRs about 10-15 years ago. When I bought these Blu-Rays over the last decade, it was with the intention of holding onto them for a long time. As somebody who doesn't subscribe to Netflix or whatever, the entire point of my movie collection is that I don't have to continually pay for movies any longer. I pretty much own everything I want by now. I only add the odd new release like Nightmare Alley or Pickup On South Street or whatever.
You have the right mentality there. I would do the same. I own way less than you do, but if I was in your shoes, then I’d only feel inclined to buy a select few 4K to test it out
There is a lot of good content on Netflix that isn’t available on physical media. Unless you aren’t interested in any of their series, it still has a lot of value. I watch Seinfeld on it. Don’t really want to buy 9 seasons of Seinfeld on DVD.
I think 4K UHD discs will become the ultimate collectors items and i am glad i bought so many of the OG ones that 1st came out as they might be rarer to find.
The biggest upgrade in quality, in my opinion, was going from DVD to regular blu-ray. Going from regular blu-ray to 4K blu-ray was a minor upgrade. In a time when 4K is an option, I never complain if a movie only gets a regular blu-ray release and not a 4K release as well.
I really, really wish that Pink Floyd’s The Wall movie would come out on Blu-Ray because it is in DESPERATE need of a restoration/remaster and the outdated old DVD looks terrible, but with their attitude (particularly Roger Waters) that seems unlikely to happen... :(
YES!!! The Wall may be "depressing", as it's a tour through Roger Waters' twisted, tormented soul, but it's ONE HELL of an audio-visual musical masterwork.
@@jnagarya519 No, because of the way images are put to the music that tells the story makes it a masterwork. You don't like it, that's okay.
Great video! Enjoyed being educated on these released formats. Very cool subject you brought up
Same conversation enthusiasts had with VHS, LD, and DVD. Thanks for participating.
Also, unless the studios like Paramount see significant sales ot their movies on blu-ray, they wouldn't even consider putting them on 4K. But if sales for the blu-ray are good, the 4K becomes more of a possibility in the future. So for collectors, we should still buy and support blu-ray discs as it could lead to better things being released at some point down the road.
Physical media is becoming more and more important. In today's cancel culture, if you want to continue watching your favorite movies and tv-series in their original form, you must own them on a disc. Lots of movies are now edited to remove scenes that are considered unacceptable in the current social climate before they are released for streaming on Disney+ or Netflix.
Sad but true.
Not only that, who know how many more directors there will be like George Lucas that will keep altering their movies and not allowing releases of the older/original. Thank god for Project 4k77.
I still have the Han Shot First theatrical release of Star Wars in the VHS box set for this purpose
Facts.
Not every 4k release is worth getting over blu-ray IMO. The 4k resolution and HDR 10 capability alone is not enough for me to justify the higher cost over a blu-ray version. It needs to support dynamic HDR like Dolby Vision and better sound over its blu-ray counterpart, like Dolby Atmos or DTSX. On paper, 4k alone might technically be better since it's higher resolution, but for the average consumer like myself a higher resolution isn't noticeable unless you're sitting very close to the screen. However, dynamic HDR and immersive audio are what make many 4k releases worth it. Absent those features I tend to purchase a standard blu-ray film which is significantly cheaper yet still high quality.
Thanks you for this video. Very interesting seeing the numbers. I'm not a collector as much as you, but I definitely see the value of keeping a physical media for movies! Cheers!
Paramount Presents: please give us Gung Ho (1986) & Black Rain (4K remaster, 1989) on Blu-ray.
@@LennyNero2019 I have Black Rain on Blu-ray (UK release).
I just want the best version I can get, if that's Blu Ray or 4K I'm there :)
Very insightful video Jeff! Although one thing I'd like to know is the exclusiveness and how many movies are available in all 3 formats, as this is how most releases are done. Personally I only buy my favorites on 4K and blu-ray, as the DVD quality is too low for my liking. Can't wait for more movies to be released in 4K!
Seems like it’s a demand from attention like the film promising young woman is a contender of an Oscar but has no 4K reported only blu-ray and dvd.
So it happens with modern films getting stuck on blu-ray. The lighthouse and Mandy are 2 others.
One huge thing to consider is most movies are filmed at 2k and below and maybe only 10 ever shot in true 4k.
So when you compare 4k to blue ray the main difference is dimmer picture due to HDR and Dolby vision and blown out color and highlight that is almost unnatural.
There truly is almost no difference in pixel quality due to its not filmed in 4k and if you are using a 4k TV or projector Blue ray looks the same in sharpness 👍👌
I actually started collecting physical media within the last year or so. I got a new Panasonic 4k player that upscales beautifully and Blu-rays are more affordable than ever. Also, there are titles I grew up with that are just being released to Blu-ray (i.e. Pump Up the Volume) and I want those in my collection.
I don't buy many regular DVDs, but I picked up a few (early Eddie Izzard standup) awhile back because they're not available on any other format, including streaming.
What model 4k panasonic have you got i have one its the best player ive ever bought
I think a lot of studios don’t care as much about making a lot of 4K releases because bluray sells soo good. I hope that changes in the future and we get more 4K releases Walmart’s physical media section in their stores is a joke now
I think physical media will exist in some form as long as Internet availability remains limited worldwide. Heck even in my own country there are farms and houses in remote valleys with limited internet
What I like about 4k a lot is it brought down the cost on Blu ray. So blu ray is a lot easier to get ahold of and is still a very solid format for sure
4k discs Is obviously better on a 4k tv
@@Rolf-1gv7ej2j well of course 4k is going to look better. I just like the fact blu ray is cheaper now
@@Onotosho blu ray will obviously look better on a 1080p television
In my opinion, this is one of my favorite videos of the videos you've ever made. Thanks, Jeff!!Price is coming down a bit in 4k so I might jump in.
Appreciate the perspective. I knew the general pyramid shape of physical media formats but didn't realize the scale. I have no problem buying 1080p Blu-ray, but this helped me feel better about the times that I need to hold my nose and purchase DVD when that's the only option. Thankfully that isn't too often-the most recent example is Paramount with SPONTANEOUS, a horror/comedy that more people really should check out (full disclosure: I also picked it up digitally for an HD version).
I upgraded to 4K in July 2016 and at that time I made a rule that I would always buy 4K media going forward if available but would not upgrade currently owned Blu-Ray to 4K. I have broken that rule on occasion IE: Back To The Future trilogy but it has to be a noticeable improvement over the 1080P version and I have to have owned the movie/Show for many years. For the most part Blu-Ray looks absolutely great on a 4K tv especially the newer Blu-Rays. Back in 2019 I did a complete series rewatch of Game Of Thrones leading up to the release of Season 8 on 4K Blu-Ray in Dec 2019. I own S1-7 on Blu-Ray and season 8 on 4K BD and the show looks absolutely stunning on 1080P Blu-Ray so I still haven’t got the complete series set on 4K as I’m having a hard time justifying spending $200 on it when the S1-7 Blu-Rays are so good. Some titles I luck out on and never actually owned it on Blu-Ray so I bought the 4K naturally IE: The Legend Of Zorro. Any Marvel movie released before I went 4K in 2016 I have not upgraded to 4K either as the 1080P looks good to me. 1080P Blu-Ray is still very relevant even today. Excellent video
Thanks for the Info! That's really fascinating about the number of existing titles in those formats. I still buy some 2K-Blu-rays and occasionally DVDs, but I usually try to get the best format possible. If it's on 4K-BD, I almost always try to get that.
Ofcourse we definitely still need a Blu-Ray and DVD on this streaming era, because we can't owned movies that played on Netflix or in another streaming media permanently, we still need an app, an internet connection, and even an account for accessing that media, thats why we still need a Blu-ray and DVD, because we have that permanently forever
I feel like the quality of the tv you're using is WAY more important than the resolution of the disc. Id take a 1080p blu ray on a properly tuned oled or plasma tv over an 8k disc on an LCD TV 100 times out of 100
ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS 1,2,3,4 is the funnyest comedys i watched for a long time.
What a great video. Great research. I reviewed my collection and there are some blurays I will update to 4k; others I wanna keep them as bluray. I love 4k but I choose which made the list. One thing is for sure: my projector welcomes all: dvds, blurays and 4ks.
Your channel is my favorite because you include technical specifications in your reviews.
Where do you get your information from? I would specifically like to know where to look up when a film was last restored or remastered.
I recently did a substantial upgrade to my tv system - went from a CRT to a 4k screen (there is a story behind this, mind you; I am far from being a careless visual consumer) - and all I have to say is that this move pretty much made my entire DVD collection obsolete; they look less than stellar on a large 4k TV, especially the older ones (Se7en, which up till this point I thought had a stellar transfer, is simply unwatchable, for example).
I can explain that by the fact that it's the difference in degrees of capturing versus displaying. With the CRT TV you don't need as many pixels of capturing because the CRT method of display is analog in other words continuous and will fill in the color gaps in between the wide pixel gaps of the pixel points.
If your disc player does not have a 4K up converter built in then DVDs are going to look literally just like the way they were except blockier the bigger the screen gets. The reason why DVDs suddenly get obsoleted on big screen TVs when they're not of the CRT type is because that's how videotape worked. Videotape store their picture and sound and continuous waves and the TV displayed in continuous waves so that's how it did it so well. If it weren't for the fact that crt's beyond a certain size were exponentially more hazardous to the environment than these modern technologies of larger sizes, as long as people crave bigger TVs the CRT will be a dinosaur.
Personally I don't think "the bigger the better". In video games there is an optimal size a TV should be when it's a certain distance in front of the face of a person. It's got to be big enough so you could focus in on a couple pixels and see a change but small enough so you can look at the whole picture all at once. If you have too small of a TV you're squinting at details and you miss out. Likewise if you have too big of a TV you're wrenching your neck trying to look at the whole picture and you have to get it on a pan and scan like analysis instead of all in one letterboxing.
And keep in mind theaters are designed to be communal places where a lot of people get together and watch a movie. There is a difference between personal Cinema and communal Cinema. Impersonal Cinema all you need is the sound to sound 3D relative to your perspective hence why you could get away with gaming headphones on your movies and here are 3D sound scape by placing two speakers near your ears and have a better more Universal sound than trying to play speakers around the room on the exterior of your body.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't 1080p blu rays actually still better than 4k streams in visual quality? I mean streams are super dependent on your internet but even with the best connection you still have quite a bit of noise in the picture compared to physical discs, right?
Great video. And right on the money. I don't know why people are in this "I'm going to wait for the 4K" mode. There's a bunch of stuff out there that will likely NEVER make it to 4K disc. (like a large portion of Fox's catalog). And a large number of Blu-ray releases that are likely to be the last word for that particular title on physical media. So why wait? That Paramount Presents lineup is actually really nice - - basically a budget analogue for Criterion (which is, BTW, another collection that will likely never switch to 4K). And they even throw in digital copies for some of them. And I'm not even going to get into the handful of 4K titles that provide no noticeable improvement or are actually worse than the standard Blu-ray offering (I'm looking at you Bourne Collection).
I have a 4k tv and Atmos system, and I just bought 'The Rock' on Blu-ray.
Still incredible and with my Panasonic DP-UB820, it looks and sounds amazing!
That said, we deserve this movie in 4k with ATMOS!! Especially the Green Smoke scene.
1080p is crap on 4k tv
higher fidelity costs more money, raising the barrier to entry for production, and a lot of the time to the prices of physical copies, it all makes sense :)
let me know if any of you still keep those vhs tapes that don't have a DVD, or just because you love an original home release of one of your favorites!
Any idea when we can expect your Ten Commandments 4K review?
I don’t have it yet. Maybe in the next few weeks. It’s still early but I’d guess by early April
God only knows ...... couldn't resist !
I just wish Criterion or Kino Lorber would release Pink Floyd The Wall on Blu-ray. It’s been my wish for almost a year, I will not rest until it’s on Blu-ray
And HD transfer has already been made for The Wall and sometimes you can catch it on cable. Not sure why they haven't done a Blu ray yet. I was hoping to see it on The Wall Immersion box set, but nope. If Pink Floyd ever does "The Middle Years" box set, maybe it will show up there.
@@pinkflyd7 We can only hope
I come across your channel a couple of months ago and really enjoy it! I love the discussions you have about various topics as well as the reviews. I still love physical media and HATE streaming!! I don't have the collection you have. Mine consists of about 850 DVDs, 650 BluRays, and about 70 4Ks. I still buy BDs and DVDs to this day. Tv shows and wrestling I don't see the need for HD. I love to support the various formats, as long as they are good quality. Heck, I still have my HD DVD player with about 40 movies.
Recently bought Operation Petticoat on Blu-Ray. Could use a restoration on the Film but still so much better than the DVD and not really something that has a shot at 4K, and also it does not need 4K. Curious however, any ideas if Ben Hur has a 4K release coming up? There is a movie that has the raw potential for a great 4K release.
What App did you use to show us your collection, it seemed like an Apple feature. I’m interested to do the same organization with my collection
was looking for this as well..
I love my Arrow Video & Criterion Collection films! Shout Select as well has great box collections and individual movies.
It might be interesting to see how many of those 4K discs are sold as multi-format boxes with both the 1080p and 4K in there.
Also 1080p still looks fucking Insane and Amazing even on 4K TV's depending on the brand like Sony where it Upscales the standard Blu Ray really well even 1080p Video Games look great still.
Yeah I agree yesterday I watched the blu ray of Aliens on my Sony Bravia and I was surprised how detailed the image was for a 80s movie, I don’t think a 4K release would do a big difference in terms of resolution
@@MadMaXXXim I agree 95% I 10 Years ago was blown away on my PS3 at how A bunch of Films I owned on VHS looked on Blu Ray and to this day with latest releases being Jetsons the Movie, Good Burger, Mouse Hunt and Small Soldier it looks insane for all these 90s Films also I do own the Original Alien on 4K Blu Ray and the Difference is just Amazing at the detail for A 70s Film I can't wait to get both Last Action Hero and Speed on 4K Blu Ray later this year and will continue to hope that Titan AE and Once Upon A Forest will still get A Blu Ray Release somehow even though it may not happen since Disney now owns Titan AE and Once Upon A Forest.
8k should not happen
4k is all home media ever needs
That's what they said about DVD. It's all you need
Movies aren't even shot in 8K. Many movies are shot in 4K. They're downscaled to 2K in post and then upscaled by 4K TVs. So no, at this time there is no reason for 8K media besides futureproofing.
@@Mariofans-gn1lu yes they can look good. Many 4k TVs do a good job upscaling 1080p.
Two huge limiting factors in the supply and sale of 4K discs is the number of households with 4K TV’s AND 4K players. Around 50 percent of US households have a 4K tv and it seems sales of 4K players has been sadly declining over the last few years. I don’t recall seeing any new 4K players announced at the recent CES. Compare this with practically every household having a TV and some device that can play a DVD and it’s no wonder DVD still has the lions share of the market. So overall I think this means we can expect 4K disc prices to remain high and supply of new titles limited, until more homes are technologically enabled. Blu rays are smack in the middle of these two extremes.
Great video. Great perspective. Crazy how few 4Ks there are when you break it down.
Great video. If I love a movie I buy on dvd if that's what's available to me. But I really love 4k and bluray.
You own 300 4K Films? Damn!
I finally upgraded to a 4K TV and 4K Blu-Ray player about eight months ago. But I still buy Blu-Ray for a majority of the movies I get these days. I tend to reserve 4K for certain films, like classic movies, very visual or effects-heavy movies, or movies that are personal favorites that I watch all the time.
Ex. One of my favorite go-to movies is _The Fifth Element._ I watch it all the time. And it's also a very visual film to boot. So it was a no-brainer I'd upgrade my Blu-Ray copy to 4K. In fact, it was one of the first movies I picked up on 4K when I got my TV and player.
But a movie like, say, _Pineapple Express_ isn't something that I feel compelled to buy on 4K. It's just a silly comedy, and I don't feel like the upgraded AV quality is necessarily worth the extra cost. I feel like Blu-Ray is totally fine for a film like that.