When I graduated Airborne School I got to meet the remaining members and families with widows of the original test platoon . What an honor it was. They punched my blood wings after my father did the original punch. Great memories.
Just did my M42's tonight this way with a heat gun - worked a treat - even my wife said they looked "so well worn in".. thanks Keith for an informative and professional approach to doing an accurate CC2..
I had a WW2 Denison smock (they were relatively easy to get in the 1970s) and it has this odd waxy coating over a lot of the smock. I asked the guy in the shop what this was and he said 'anti-gas sealant. It means to cloth won't breathe so you sweat a lot'. I still bought the smock and wore it to school!
I go to a lot of history events and last summer , I saw a Paratrooper in full uniform at an history event at an Airport near Franklin Pa. He looked like he came right off the page of a history book. His Airborne uniform was almost black in n places and you could tell it has been thru the ages. I asked if it was real and he said No. Be had done the aging himself. I think it must have been a treatment similar to this. The guy just looked the part. He was rather intimidating to be honest but once you spoke to him, he was really nice. Really knowledgeable too. I hope to see him again this summer.
Just putting it out there - Canvak. Ive seen great results from it. Otterwax can look very grey but canvak keeps the brownish color that you'll want. Plus you save this whole time consuming process since you can just dunk it in and leave it to dry. It replicates the whole process more authentic. Hell you can even follow the original manual to get the best results.
Did this treatment way back in the early days of reenactment only difference is we used vasaline ( so much cheaper and equally effective just the same) I’ve also used Barber wax which is a wind proofing treatment , although expensive! I’ve used the vasaline treatment on the airborne uniform in 2014 in Normandy France for the 70th D-day celebrations and people and veterans commented how great and realistic the whole set up looked , great video though
I remember my father telling me that after treatment off cc2 on one set of uniforms, they smelled so bad that they stuck them in the bottom of their duffle bags and never used them again.
Anyone ever told you that you are a dead ringer for Morrisey, the singer from the band the Smiths. While I was perusing you tube I was suprised to see the singer Morrisey talking about gas proofing WW2 uniforms! Oh good film thanks.
Snoseal also works great. You can put the pot inside a pan of hot water and then rub it in. You can also melt the wax in a pot, keep it warm and in a liquid state and paint it on Then you can use a heat gun to really melt it in. Wipe off the excess.
Great tipps! How aboud the Pathfinders wo put camo on their uniforms? (not the older unreinforced ones from Sicily, the ones where they used C-47 paint) Did they apply the camo over the cc2?
I have a small question about the gas proof coating. Could you use a recapie for waxed oil cloth. Using a heated paraffin and bee's wax mix to brush on the fabric in even coats then either drying in the hot sun or in a canvas bag in a dryer to remove the excess.
Unfortunately I think that would not yield the result that you want. Paraffin and beeswax act somewhat differently plus applying with a brush can lead to a rather uneven finish with a lot of build up where you first place the brush and a bit less at the bottom of the brush stroke. I would suggest a more tried and tested method because you don’t want to ruin your $200 uniform.
I’m not quite sure the result you are going for. To my knowledge they didn’t use anti gas treatment on their uniforms. If you are wanting to age your uniform it could yield a similar result.
In Donald Burgett’s book about the 101st, he said later in the war (Bastogne), the uniforms they were wearing in December -January 1944 (M43ms) were filthy and worn out. So they took their older M42 uniforms and boiled them to remove the CC2 impregnation. I’m sure the cotton M42’s shrank, but at least they were clean.
Many years ago when I was a reenactor I found a set of CC2 treated underwear - long sleeved t-shirt and long johns. They were unissued and horrible to touch. I never wore them. I had an unissyed , treated gas hood too, which I also didn't wear. An untreated hood would be good winter wear
I live in a world where people need to fake wear on their clothes because everything is so damned new rather than doing some physical work in it and wearing it out. What a strange world.
Wifey gonna be pleased when she takes her smalls out of the dryer after you treated your M42 to find them all coated and smelling of Otter Wax. Dont matter what you put the uniform in bag or what, the smell and wax will get into the dryer drum and just everywhere. DONT DO IT! If you want to save your marriage/relationship, just buy a second hand dryer then sell it on to your re-enactor friends.
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When I graduated Airborne School I got to meet the remaining members and families with widows of the original test platoon . What an honor it was. They punched my blood wings after my father did the original punch. Great memories.
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Yeah there are very few original vets still around. Those test platoon guys were something else. Major guts.
How did the Airborne troops sew the pockets onto the sleeves?
Just did my M42's tonight this way with a heat gun - worked a treat - even my wife said they looked "so well worn in".. thanks Keith for an informative and professional approach to doing an accurate CC2..
I had a WW2 Denison smock (they were relatively easy to get in the 1970s) and it has this odd waxy coating over a lot of the smock. I asked the guy in the shop what this was and he said 'anti-gas sealant. It means to cloth won't breathe so you sweat a lot'. I still bought the smock and wore it to school!
£1500-£2000 smock nowadays...
@@dylanmilne6683 WW2 ones, but the UK made and issued them into the 60s.
Yah that is super cool. That is CC2.
Good to know you'd be safe if someone managed to make mustard gas in chemistry class.
I go to a lot of history events and last summer , I saw a Paratrooper in full uniform at an history event at an Airport near Franklin Pa. He looked like he came right off the page of a history book.
His Airborne uniform was almost black in n places and you could tell it has been thru the ages. I asked if it was real and he said No. Be had done the aging himself. I think it must have been a treatment similar to this.
The guy just looked the part.
He was rather intimidating to be honest but once you spoke to him, he was really nice. Really knowledgeable too. I hope to see him again this summer.
For sure. CC2 treatment makes a big visual difference on the uniform. Be sure and check out WWII Weekend in Reading, PA!
Excellent video. Thanks for the history and background.
Just putting it out there - Canvak. Ive seen great results from it. Otterwax can look very grey but canvak keeps the brownish color that you'll want. Plus you save this whole time consuming process since you can just dunk it in and leave it to dry. It replicates the whole process more authentic. Hell you can even follow the original manual to get the best results.
Very interesting might you have any more info on this
Canvak can give a good result but personally I don’t want that anywhere near my skin. Some pretty harsh chemicals.
Did this treatment way back in the early days of reenactment only difference is we used vasaline ( so much cheaper and equally effective just the same) I’ve also used Barber wax which is a wind proofing treatment , although expensive! I’ve used the vasaline treatment on the airborne uniform in 2014 in Normandy France for the 70th D-day celebrations and people and veterans commented how great and realistic the whole set up looked , great video though
Did the Vaseline not flow or melt during the heat?
I remember my father telling me that after treatment off cc2 on one set of uniforms, they smelled so bad that they stuck them in the bottom of their duffle bags and never used them again.
Very good description, i 've done this at my uniform too, looks realy authentic.
So glad i come across this video, im always called green horn in my group for how "new" looking my jump suit is, thank you
Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks! We sure will!
Anyone ever told you that you are a dead ringer for Morrisey, the singer from the band the Smiths. While I was perusing you tube I was suprised to see the singer Morrisey talking about gas proofing WW2 uniforms! Oh good film thanks.
That is so funny! I have never heard that before!
Hey, you also look related to Matt Perry, face,mannerisms, etc
Snoseal also works great. You can put the pot inside a pan of hot water and then rub it in. You can also melt the wax in a pot, keep it warm and in a liquid state and paint it on Then you can use a heat gun to really melt it in. Wipe off the excess.
I have tested the Snoseal and felt the result was not that great. When it didn’t work well I went back and put Otterwax over the top of it.
Nice vidoe Lt. I still have my helmet and still need the liner. Good seeing you.
Hey brother!!! Give me a shout. Bring your helmet by and I will do it up really good! Happy to complete you platoon gift!
Great tipps!
How aboud the Pathfinders wo put camo on their uniforms?
(not the older unreinforced ones from Sicily, the ones where they used C-47 paint)
Did they apply the camo over the cc2?
Great information
So glad you liked it. Hope you are subscribed for the next video!
I just did mine excellent tutorial!
Great job❤
What, specifically, is CC2? Calcium carbonate? Carbon copy? Coffee cream?
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Does the otter wax add to its water resistance?
So historically, what was the original CC2 treatment ?
Cc2
If I do the dryer method, will my uniform shrink? I have ATF pants and a WWII impressions top
What size of otter wax bar you used? And how much left of it :D?
I remember trying candle wax and melting it with an iron. Kinda sorta worked but also left residue on my iron.
What about using an iron on an ironing board?
You could but the wax might stick to your iron. Worth a try though with a cheap iron from a thrift store!
Use some wax paper between iron and cloth?
9:05 better pray the event is on a cool day
Must have made the uniforms super sweaty.
Nice I hope to get some at some point to CC2 mine to
I used golf wax at one point but it’s not as good a that
For sure. It makes such a big difference! I’ll keep an eye out for your order on the website!
@@standinthedoor1944 I most likely will get it when I get a better M42set from ATF because I have a SOF one at the moment.
Nice one. Will Stand in the door ever replicate the Jump Suit?
I hope to as I have 2 huge rolls of original m42 twill fabric but I need to find the right partner to pattern them and go into production.
@@standinthedoor1944 How many metres, yards do you have approx? Also what is the width of cloth?
I have a small question about the gas proof coating. Could you use a recapie for waxed oil cloth. Using a heated paraffin and bee's wax mix to brush on the fabric in even coats then either drying in the hot sun or in a canvas bag in a dryer to remove the excess.
Unfortunately I think that would not yield the result that you want. Paraffin and beeswax act somewhat differently plus applying with a brush can lead to a rather uneven finish with a lot of build up where you first place the brush and a bit less at the bottom of the brush stroke. I would suggest a more tried and tested method because you don’t want to ruin your $200 uniform.
How does this process do with the M41 field jacket?
Do they feel wet and slimey or are they quite stiff qhen worn after this treatment?
what does mean cc2?
Hey guys, do you have good alternative brands for otter wax in europe (france) ?
Dad talked about it. Said it caused the uniform to stink bad.
Awesome.
For op market garden did they still do the treatment on there uniforms ?
No they did not! It was only used in the masses for Normandy. Leave your M43s untreated.
@@standinthedoor1944All the more reason to reenact Market Garden over Normandy in the summer months
Great vid to show how to DIY the CC2 👏🏻🪖🦅
Thanks! It really works out well for guys!
Thank you posting the video where you show how to do it instead of just talking about it.
My pleasure! Be sure you are subscribed for the next video!
I know this is not a World War II related, but would this work for the uniforms used in Vietnam War?
I’m not quite sure the result you are going for. To my knowledge they didn’t use anti gas treatment on their uniforms. If you are wanting to age your uniform it could yield a similar result.
When I was reenacting, I just rubbed beeswax and candles around the uniform and used my wife's blow dryer to melt the wax on the fabrics.
Nice! Hope you didn’t get in trouble with the wife 😉
How would one go about cleaning a CC2 treated uniform, incase you needed to clean it?
You don’t
In Donald Burgett’s book about the 101st, he said later in the war (Bastogne), the uniforms they were wearing in December -January 1944 (M43ms) were filthy and worn out. So they took their older M42 uniforms and boiled them to remove the CC2 impregnation. I’m sure the cotton M42’s shrank, but at least they were clean.
Very good teaching, but I have a question, can I only do dry cleaning after CC2? Will otter wax disappear if washed with water?
This is basically the same procedure as with making tin cloth.
Exactly right. Just like the double tin pants miners used to use during the gold rush.
Best qaulity reproduction M1942 suit? I used Snoseal to age and wear in my rigger pouches
I have tested Snoseal and it darkened the uniform but unfortunately it didn’t look much like CC2 it just made the uniform a darker shade.
Whenever I tested Snoseal and it didn’t give the proper results, I went over the top of it with Otterwax.
A friend said he used ceiling wax, whatever that is
Not familiar with ceiling wax. What I like about Otterwax is it is specifically designed for clothing.
@standinthedoor1944 Sealing wax maybe?
Otterwax cans > bars!
Many years ago when I was a reenactor I found a set of CC2 treated underwear - long sleeved t-shirt and long johns. They were unissued and horrible to touch. I never wore them. I had an unissyed , treated gas hood too, which I also didn't wear. An untreated hood would be good winter wear
I live in a world where people need to fake wear on their clothes because everything is so damned new rather than doing some physical work in it and wearing it out. What a strange world.
Did you watch the video?
The treatment isn’t actually for aging though. It is for recreating a similar compound that was used on original uniforms during the war.
Like girls walking around with holes in the knees of their jeans. They buy them like that!
Uses actual CC2 insted of wax
Otter wax smells like gasoline
Wifey gonna be pleased when she takes her smalls out of the dryer after you treated your M42 to find them all coated and smelling of Otter Wax.
Dont matter what you put the uniform in bag or what, the smell and wax will get into the dryer drum and just everywhere. DONT DO IT!
If you want to save your marriage/relationship, just buy a second hand dryer then sell it on to your re-enactor friends.
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Plus camouflage
For the benefit of an ignorant Englishman, what is Spackle?
Spackle is patching compound for filling nail or screw holes in plaster or stucco walls.