Does Chieftain Fit Into..... A Ferret?
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- Assuming I'm going to start a series of these videos, any ideas for the name of the series? Or shall I just keep with "Does Chieftain Fit Into...?"
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Better than seeing a ferret fitting inside the chieftain
Thank you. Now I can never unsee it...........
Rule 34 .......
That statement will haunt me forever.
I heard the trick was to use a toilet paper core. Hypothetically speaking, of course!
Bro...
So now you know why the British Army tried every trick in the book to keep their ferrets in service. Very well liked by all ranks and a popular taxi for CO's.
Not when I was in the Army.
Everyone I knew loved the little things.
So easy to drive.
Our Squadron Sergeant Majors were expected to use one. Strange that they always seemed to be declared ‘VOR’ just before each deployment.
One of my squadron OCs then decided that his troop commanders would use them. Thanks for that…we had to get REME to build baskets to hold our BFO recce kits that had barely fitted in a Land Rover with trailer. It was an amphibious troop with 12 M2 rigs for line of communication bridges. Mine was the only armoured vehicle and totally unsuitable for my job. The man was just being a cnut.
Not to mention it was f cold and wet…
@@bob_the_bomb4508 Each to their own Bob. I recall our CO "bombing" around Salisbury plain in his at any opportunity. The REME LAD were instructed to have it ready 24/7.
@@gusgone4527 I think they had their pleas a liaison vehicle. But not with a complete sapper recce kit including inflatable boat!
If Chieftain fits, Chieftain sits.
And drives!
Yep, didn't have to scroll much to find the comment I was looking for xD
yes this needs to be the name
This os now the official series name
Great one lmao.
"Does the Chieftain Fit Into..." is a perfect title for this future series.
Just need to have a "OMG the TANK IS ON FIRE!!" Egress drill perhaps.
Or a "This vehicle offends me, I'll remove it" drill
Still waiting on that AMX ELC Bis episode.
@@Edax_Royeaux ELC EVEN 90 can happen
@@HSS_yt Wiesel Mk1
@@andreasvogler1875 I was thinking of precisely that vehicle.
I love these old British scout cars because they're literally smaller than many modern hatchbacks. Perfect for nipping down to Tesco.
The Ferret is almost exactly the same size as a short wheelbase land rover. I've taken mine to the supermarket several times.
And depending on which tesco you go to, its suitably armoured for it as well
@@MortRotu could of done with one when i lived in slough maybe a challenger on second thoughts lol
@@Mjk10957 I thought all they had in Slough was a mars bar factory...
come friendly bombs………….
my dad bought one of these when i was a kid, and picked me up from school in it a few times. "My dad's got a tank" was an excellent argument winner
I remember going to pick up my kid from school in my 1941 GPW I met a guy with his Ferrari still with temp tags. He looked at me and said" you have just taken the cool out of my car" and I replied back " and at a fraction of the price". We both laughed.
I've been eyeing up buying a Ferret for years. Every now and then I find one for sale, and not for very much all things considered. They're remarkably good fun to drive, and oddly practical given their top speed and road legal lights; not something for a shopping trip but a hell of a thing for the farm.
What do you mean "Not something for a shopping trip"? But then I have a friend who has gone shopping in his Dumper Truck and. most recently, a 1950's Tractor. BTW, if you feel that there isn't sufficient cargo space then you can follow, IIRC, what a number of units did for extra stowage and put a 'box on stilts' over the engine deck.
Yes I really like these with no turrets. Saw ond in good condition in Poland - 6000€
Had one, sold it. Like the Centurion that was dumb and I'll never afford the Centurian again and I doubt the Ferret either, they now fetch good money here in OZ.
@@rickansell661 We used to take mine down the shops all the time. As long as you have a spotter with you it's an easy drive and actually fun unlike most armored cars on public roads. It's like a Bren only faster and a hell of a lot cheaper per operating hour.
@@rickansell661 For more cargo they have a tow hitch, I used a half-ton military trailer behind mine.
I'd love to see an event where old armored cars got together and raced around a track. Maybe something close to a rally course.
I would watch that with childlike giddiness.
Reproduction puma would be cool to see
That would be the second coolest motorsport event I've ever seen, after the school bus figure-8 race I saw at a small-town dirt track one time.
(Well, unless you count the airport vehicles rally on that one episode of _Top Gear,_ but I saw the school bus thing in person. :)
I had mine on a banked clay speedway track, a Ferret will drift and rather well!
They did for a bit in UK, Ferrets and Foxes on Brands Hatch old race track. Often overtaking "supercars" as they could go flat out the whole way - while the track was crumbling so cars had to back off at times
Next I'd like to see if the Chieftain fits into a Wiesel.
It will shrink and shrink till the carden loyd carriers
Cute little weapon carrier, bren gun carrier on steroids.
We had them in our base for repair all the time. I like them a lot.
That would be stoatally different...
next thing we know people will be asking about the goliath...but that would be silly
@@ultimo36 I mean you cant ride a goliath similar to a small bobby car.
Golaiths werent that small
Now we can see why vehicle crews need intercom systems. Even the smallest recon vehicles produce an almost overwhelming racket, and that's without any shooting going on!
Normal road cars have a ton of sound deadening material in them, with the same this would be much easier to hear in.
@@Fireclaws10 not likely to help any, you're sitting in the engine compartment and the gearboxes whine at anything over 15 mph is deffoning ;-)
The pedals remind me of a Red vs Blue quote. "Why are there six pedals if there are only four directions?"
Low slung, wheel at each corner and central driving position; a McLaren F1 for the safety conscious. :)
In fairness, the Ferret very much screams that it was designed around the driver. It almost forgets to have place or space for the other guy who is supposed to be doing the mission work. Really, the only fault of the thing is that it can't really do much other than move two sets of Mark 1 Eyeballs around with a radio to pass on what they see, which may be what it was designed for, but soldiers do like to multipurpose anything with an engine so they don't have to carry things themselves.
We used to make baskets that fit over the back decks that could hold a complete combat engineer recce kit including bulky things like camouflage net and an Avon Redcrest inflatable boat.
They are F cold except in the summer though, especially the Mk1 without the turret.
@@bob_the_bomb4508 Oooff! Canadian winters are fun enough when you have a nice home to retreat to every night, so getting to spend a few nights in the winter with just a tarped steel box to sleep in must really be charming!
Based on the criteria of fitting into smaller vehicles, you can in theory write off fitting into a Lamborghini or other super car as a 'work expense'
Ah, but are they classified as armoured vehicles? No! Claim Denied!
@@markfryer9880 Ok, what if we up amour the Lamborghini first?
I can see the video now: "Is a Ferret Scout Car more practical than a Lamborghini?"
@@catfish552 yes
Much more especially in a city like Chicago or Portland plus it's a manual so most car thieves couldn't drive one
Imagine the squabbles amongst the crew when the driver slides his seat too far back.
Just like my kids on a long car trip.:-)
The "Crew" was driver and commander, so there were no squabbles rank has its privileges!
The seat goes that far back for evacuating casualties.
In Dr. Capwell's lecture on late medieval armor this morning he mentioned the speed/maneuverability trade-off of armor design is just as applicable to a modern tank as it was . I'd love to see a crossover where The Chieftain discusses armor with him.
I have no idea if they'd have much specific to talk about but I'd absolutely watch that.
Also they both seem to have and issue of providing situational awareness to whoever is inside the armor.
My dad did his national service in 1958-60. He got to drive one of these before he passed his driving test. He couldn't believe a Ford Popular could be harder to drive than an armored car....it was..😂
Just reading the title, I am like "If he can fit in a M22 Locust, he can fit into anything."
Having a MK1 Ferret a lot on the public roads in Sydney, Australia I can tell you that the
ferret is my favorite armoured vehicle after the M113
Honestly such a practical vehicle for what it is. When you just need a pair of eyes and a good radio to keep contact with the enemy, its perfectly suited.
Except it sounds like its about as sneaky as a dump truck crashing through a nitro glycerin plant.
@@uni4rm For 1940's its not terrible lol
@@McTeerZor 1940? I thought this thing was like 1955 or so.
My dad served in the British Army and did all the jobs in so many vehicles from Cent to Chieftain, along with many armoured cars but he said hand down the most fun he ever had was in Ferrets :)
Now that we know that the Chieftain can fit into a Ferret, the question is, can a Ferret fit into the Chieftain's garage?
Will his wife fit inside the Ferret with the Chieftan?
Will his wife allow him to fit back into house if Ferret fit into the garage?
If a Ferret fits in the garage, will the Chieftain's wife take it for her own use?
Two seats, no space for Chieftain Jr. - House 6 (Aka, Wife) would not be amused.
Well he drives past an f150 at one point so assuming his garage is big enough to fit a pickup, it'll park a ferret just fine
Why does it feel both fitting and funny when Nick gets in the seat and announces 'this is lovely' in a very British way. As if he is about to go on a weekend drive down to Devon and have a picknick on the beach
That's ridiculous. It doesn't make tea. You want a tank for that.
Julian. Yes, no BV no picnic!
given he's Irish, I don't think so
@@popefang Yes, that is very noticeably an Irish man speaking at that point.
In a British way? He's Irish, FFS (or was). Pretty bad mistake to make - at best, you could get your (British) jaw busted. Best wishes from, er, Britain, BTW...
Well, it's not exactly a Peel P50 but there is something about the Chieftain driving this thing around that seems kind of fitting... Nothing like bullet proof armour to help you survive an American highway!
Canadian, in case you didn’t know that Ontario wasn’t a part of the US, and that no US state has a Maple Leaf on its flag.
US highways and Canadian highways are almost the same aren't they
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Yes but since he's a serving officer of the US Army and, unless you didn't realise it, Canada is also in America.
Chieftan to his wife: I brought a ferret
Wife: a ferret? Is it inoculated against rabies? Is it good with kids?
Chieftan: it's a scout car!
Love my Ferrets. I’m 6’6 (2m tall) and 130 kg but can still mount, dismount and drive with no major issues...
I would call this series "The Driver's Hatch" but "Does Chieftain Fit Into..." does work pretty well.
We need to get Fisher Price to make a more robust "Tank" power wheel. Just so we can see the Chieftain zipping around a parking lot crammed into a kids toy. You know, shoots a 50mm HS (high splash) water balloon, has 3 mm of frontal bow armor made of cast plastic. . . .the good stuff.
Oh hey, I know the Oshawa Regiment, I used to work down the street from their office in the middle of town. Very interesting to be walking down the street and watch a couple of armoured cars come out of the garage and head off... wherever they went to.
I own a Ferret and I agree, they're roomier than you think and easy to drive. I like my Saracen better though.
To (mis)quote Robbie Coltrane: "...lucky Starfireaw!"
I remember these Ferrets in Malaysia. When I was growing up in the mid 19*60s, I lived in a rural town that had an Army base. I would see these on the road sometimes. However, the Ferrets I saw had the turret on them. So, maybe not so easy to get into one with a turret...
When the Canadian Army surplused these a local Surplus store was selling them for $8000 CDN a unit. If I could have come up with the cash one of these would have been great for downtown Calgary during rush hour. Go ahead, scratch my paint!
I'm extremely sad because for $8000 I would buy a functioning one right now.
One of the coolest vehicles for head turning and cruzing around in. I wonder what the gas mileage is though, I heard it runs on a V6.
@@SkyNinja759 I thought it was a V-12 Rolls Royce Diesel but I could be wrong.
@@anulfadventures Quick Google search out of curiosity, Wikipedia says it's an inline-6.
Crazy how all that weight can be moved with a straight 6 piston engine.
Such a different experience, watching the vehicle drive around in (relative) silent rather than listen to you explain every detail about it. I loved it regardless.
50 years ago I had immense fun driving a Ferret on an Army open day. I was a university undergraduate. I am 6ft 4in and I fitted in very well! The Ferret is superb. I also drove a Stalwart, which was just as much fun, but less practical for everyday use!
There's this Ferret and then, there's the Toyo Tires® Ferret !
Anyway.. The steering seems very light and responsive for such an "old" vehicle !
And the preselector is truly impressive ! (seems very light too)
Perfect Scout Car ! Nimble, low profile..
Brilliant little vehicles. My cabby as a recce crew in the RA. Fine to drive on the autobahns and fun off road. Lots of sharp bits and dangerous hatches for trapping fingers. Fluid flywheel clutch not for cissy`s either. I remember plenty of backfiring and wearing what appeared to be WW1 flyers overalls to keep us warm in the winter. Great days and great friends. I would love to own one.
I am so jealous. I have a weird fascination with the Ferret, after getting a die-cast metal one at a young age, and it's just stuck with me all these years. If anything the Ferret first got me interested in military vehicles. That die-cast model has unfortunately been lost to the black hole that is my parents house.
"The_Ferret" is perfect for Canadian tank enthusiast name. Nobody has it yet on UA-cam.
Something more iconic to Canadian war efforts would be, "The_Staghound" "Fox" "Dingo" "Ram" "Kangaroo" I think?
@@Ari.Atland 'The Standard Beaverette'?
And their catchphrase is: "Sir or Madam, may I please shoot back at you?"
I bought a mk2 ferret, ex australian army, i like it, it run real well, i cruise around town, they drive well considering its something like 4 ton, it's very comfortable for me as I'm only 5,2ft so it was designed for me!
If you ever get the chance, I'd love to see you trying to get into a WW2 Japanese tank. Pretty much any will do, but a Type 95 or Type 97 would be lovely. Well, for us viewers anyway. :)
They are a tad rare, and the Tank Museum won't let anyone into theirs, due to Asbestos.
@@MrDgwphotos think some repos in Japan
@@MrDgwphotos potential history managed to get into some Japanese tanks for his "inside wannabe's hatch" series, so it can't be too hard for Chieftain.
@@justanordinaryaccount9910 I believe that was specifically with the help of the Chieftain, yeah?
Technically, since The Chieftain is driving, he should have entered and exited via the driver's hatch. I've tried it. it's something best reserved for younger, smaller people though (so none of us I suspect!)
I am entirely too fat to fit through that hatch I am sure
How tall is The Chieftain?
@@landenmorton4543 Ah but back in the day, just like my 58P. web belt and my Stable belt both of which seem to have shrunk about a foot.
Did someone call for a particularly slender young reservist?
@@landenmorton4543 I'm sure the hatch just shrank over the years....
This is how the chieftain found a fascination for collecting smaller and smaller clown cars to see if he fits?
I'm so glad you got to enjoy driving one, It's a great "automobile" , so easy and so much fun , great power to weight ratio, it's an absolute hoot to drive , even going on the freeway
.. 1954 Ferret Mk 2/5
As a former owner, I can only agree. About as practical and usable as an armored vehicle can get.
@@marvindebot3264 plenty of storage for grocery shopping, and totally immune to shopping carts ;-)
I've always said the ferret is a love child between between a dingo and a fox.
yay for Canadian content! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Having driven a ferret for several years in the army I did cringe when he held on to a hatch to climb on as they are prone to chopping your fingers off the upgraded ones with servo brakes make a massive difference as you could stop lol
Boy, talk about a fun playground for toys. A Ferret, big road grader, a couple of Sherman's hanging out casually and a Bobcat. I have to go see this place soon!
I imagine it's a much tighter squeeze in the turreted versions, still there's a reason these things lasted so long in UN white
Those cold war British recon vehicles were the best combination of size, armor, speed for their role, even Saladin to an extent.
Of course, then you get vehicles like AMX 10 RC, but that's a completely different use case.
Turreted ones aren’t too bad I’m 6’2” and not small I’m actually more comfortable in the turret than my 5’4” mate he bounces around in there like a ping pong ball 😂
Q: What do you call a ferret that can pick up an Chieftan?
A: Sir!
I noticed the Chieftain blew through the stop sign at the 11.40-minute mark! Tsk tsk tsk!
so nice to learn about the Ferret without Doug DeMuro screaming "THIS IS SO WEIRD!!!" 75 times...
In fairness to Doug, he wasn't wrong.
So nice to learn about anything without Doug, tbf.
I suppose to a civvy the Ferret is bloody weird.
Yep, Doug is to automotive review what Joe Buck is to sports announcing
can't wait for more videos from Canada
I was a commander in one a few years ago driving up the M11 to Duxford in the pissing rain, I got rather cold and rather wet great fun though, everywhere you went traffic would stop and let you out I think they were a bit intimidated by it.
A great video. There was a guy in New Paltz NY who used Ferret as his personal vehicle vehicle and I used to see his Ferret at the Shoprite frequently. I had an opportunity to buy a Fox back in the 80’s with a dewatted gun for $36K, but I didn’t move in time. Opportunity knocks once and if something knocks twice it ain’t opportunity.
Owned a Ferret mark 2/3. The one with the .30 cal turret. Great toy. Bit more of a squeeze to get in the turreted one. I’m 6’2” and would go in the front hatch to drop in the drivers seat. Lots of fun to drive. Glad you called it a Gear change pedal. You would have got reamed from the Ferret folks if you called it a “clutch”.
I worked for Asda for many years out in the car park and we had a customer who regularly did his shopping in a FULLY restored Willy's Jeep he even had the coils of rope attached and everything the number of shoppers who spent at least a couple of minutes looking at it was unbelievable sometimes he brought his huge German Shepherd and as he got out the dog would move into the driver's seat the lookey loos stayed further away on those occasions
Great vid. I love how, at the end, you can see Chieftains mind going through the thoughts: "Can i afford one? Can I store one? Can I get spousal approval on the purchase? I wonder where they're advertised?"
They turn up on ebay periodically.
I can see you on the roads in Cyprus and West Germany during the Cold war. Great !
Ferrets were legendarily simple and nice to drive. Soldiers on national service used to run errands in them.
I spent seven months charging up and down the Green Line in Cypress in a MK2. Loved it to bits.
Honestly, I would LOVE to see a drag race or rally performed with 1930s-1950 armoured cars, how would it be awesome to see an Sd.Kfz 234 competing with a Dingo for second place, a Panhard EBR in the lead, and running behind them a very frustrated Ferret is trying to get past a Greyhound, a Panhard 178 and a Staghound! The Pbil m/39 is struggling to keep up, and a Ba-10 is gently chugging along at the end, just happy to be along.
I had a go in one of the MG turret versions when I served in UN Cyprus. Christ, it was cramped, and I am 5' 8". Don't think one could slide the seat back that much in that version, as it would impede the commander/gunner.
saw one of these rolling down my neighborhood one day. One of the coolest and surprising things to see on a suburban road
"If the Chieftain fit, you must acquit" - one of the worse defenses to be encountered in Den Haag..
You seem to be having a lot of fun....so all of us that cant have the same fun...will live through your videos😀
Without having seen the video or the comments, as someone who used to own one (that I should never have sold) somehow I doubt it 😁
And the after edit: I'm pretty sure the seat in mine did not go that far back. They are a great vehicle and an almost practical toy. Good road manners, the ability to cruise at 55mph, very good off-road ability and as our man just found out, a lot of fun. Yes they do like to rev but in the powerband, torque is actually quite good; it's just higher up in the revs than one would expect. Pick the correct gear for your road speed however and they will climb anything without dropping much speed at all. The one caveat I would have is that for the safety of those around you and yourself ,on road these are not a one-man vehicle, you really need a spotter.
Drove them in Canadian Army way back when. Also on UN Duty in the Middle East. Fun to drive.
My dad had one of these for his mid life crisis. Was great fun to run around in as a kid and in the summer he picked me up from school everyday.
Very loud to ride in as the commander (i.e. Me) sits on the gearbox, and as a preselector gearbox it has the same number of gears in forwards and reverse, so technically it can do 45mph backwards. Although my dad has informed me that doing 45 they get a bit 'skippy' and will bounce from wheel to wheel in corners at that speed.
He had it up to 50 once going down a hill, which is in his words is 'rather exciting'.
Hang on, he wasn't doing 45mph around a corner BACKWARDS, was he?!? 😬
@@mrkeogh sensibly, no, he kept it to sane speeds in reverse.
respect for keeping the thumbs out of the steering wheel,
That's a Mk1 Ferret, my dad's favourite vehicle, he served on them for years in the 70s and 80s. Including at one point having a driver who was 6 foot 4. I'm sure you fit fine. He'd have loved this vid
Saw the turreted version when with the UN in Cyprus - always had a soft spot for the Ferret. Cute little things and always seemed very popular.
The steering wheel looks more likely to be found in an aircraft instead of a armored scout car.
Also, there is a mathematical quotation that is used to say how much the armor, with this thickness, at this angle, is equal to if it was a standing straight up.
I was in the Ferret troop of my old Regiment before accepting my commission!
I don't know what is more impressive that is slightly more spacious that what I always imagined or that the question imply there's a vehicle where he won't fit
The engineers: *Make a low profile, small armored car - because "sneaky scouting mission profile"*
also the engineers: *put an engine that's literally heard from the next state*
A surprising amount of space for the driver. A neat little vehicle. Thanks for posting this.
The fun part is when you haven't selected neutral properly. The gear selection pedal doesn't stay down, flinging your knee against the steering wheel. Your leg goes numb & you have to hold it on the brakes till you can feel your leg! At least I never had to pay for the fuel.
Looks like a nice little runabout for popping to the shops.
I used to, on more than one occasion, see a turreted example of one of these going up and down I-5 in the Seattle area going between car shows.
Loved driving the Ferret but my favorite vehicle I drove in the army will always be the Lynx.
There is a running L3 in Italy ... You know, the ultimate challenge.
That's a rather personal question sir!
"I have GOT to get one of these"!
Ferret 2 seems to be what Cadillac Gage were aiming for when they build the Scout Commando, which next to no-one bought. Regardless of how it performed, the Ferret just looks right. Low profile, all the right angles, it just absolutely appears to be "form fits function".
I remember back in 70's in a Car Custom magazine some guy cut into one of these Ferrets an basically turned it into a half armoured Beach Buggy Hot Rod ..
Drove one in Canada and in Egypt. (UNEF1) Lots of fun to drive.
The Ferret is a lot more impressive than I ever knew it to be. Quite a good little scout car.
There are 2 things about a Ferret....."Ferret Hum" and "Ferret Knee"......Wait until you miss a gear and that pedal kicks your leg up trying to embed your kneecap with the steering wheel. Lovely little Armoured Car.
I'm 6'1" & really, really want a Ferret.
I'll have a new garage in January, so hopefully soon after...
"I am suspicious"....
This. This is why I follow The_Chieftain...
Well, done, sir. Well done, indeed.
There is a working Ferret at the Lt Gen Ashton Armouries in Victoria. They have quite a lot of working vehicles in their museum.
Not an Armoured guy but I've always loved the Ferret. If I could afford one I would get it
Still would love to have one, big fan of these, they seem to scoot right along
This looked like tremendous fun!
Does Chieftain fit into a MiniCooper?
Does Chieftain fit into a Wiesel?
Does Chieftain fit into a Humber Armored car?
Much questions, such mistery...
The engine sound .. love it
Excellent wee Beastie.
Must be awesome to have the street cred to get museums to let you come in and drive their toys. Also, excellent museum, had the pleasure to visit a few years ago.
Would have LOVED to have a few of these in my troop when I was in the Cav.
Growing up in Canberra Oz, my next door neighbors had two or three ferrets in the front yard most of the time.