Stefan Molyneux's Fall of Rome - A Response
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- If you make it through this video you get a prize.
Smiling at the laziness of just stealing his thumbnail and writing 'response' on it. Leave me alone, I've got the flu.
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Most stuff by Shaun, additional research by Jen. That's right, she actually put a little work in for once. Shaun now dead from shock
1. Ruled by brothers who were raised by wolves
2. Not ruled by brothers raised by wolves
3. Rome collapses
1. Not at war with Carthage
2. At war with Carthage
3. Rome collapses
Actually, many Romans in their own time believed that not having a worthy opponent to challenge them (like Carthage) was what made the empire weak; many wished that Carthage had never been destroyed.
@@cooperross9495 weren't the parthians a worthy opponent?
By most measures, definitely, but you know how it is--people complaining about societal decline are always trying to come up with reasons for why the past was better. If there's a hole in their argument, they ignore it.
So it's the extermination of the timber wolf in America that's led to this country's decline. I fucking knew it.
I think "women are to blame for criminals because all criminals were birthed by women" is the WILDEST take I've ever heard
so are men powerful and decisive, or do they actually have zero agency and women are the cause for everything they do? pick one stefan lol
Technically, he says that all criminals were birthed by women who chose to marry assholes. This is a claim supported by
@@timothymclean yup supported by
@@timothymclean Don't worry, I'm sure he has a credible scientific source that assholery is genetically heritable. We just have to be patient that he will provide it, 5 years after the fact.
@@FumbleSquid Maybe the answer was "nothing" all along?
Oh my god it just never stops. "If women chose nice guys, we..."
We?
Buddy, you wouldn't be in there.
I particularly enjoyed the part where Stefan was literally ranting like an asshole about how stupid women are for being attracted to assholes. I feel awful for this fool's poor daughter.
@@erinhaury5773 "It's almost always the same thing either, the woman chose to mate with a bad man OR, for driving a good man away, which is even worse." Translation: "Even when a man chooses to abandon his children, that is ultimately the woman's fault." I can't stand to hear this man talk.
@@GhengisJohn her "fault" insofar she chose to mate with the bad man instead of choosing a good man, not her fault for the kids ending up abandoned. There are many things to nitpick about the video but that part was fairly straightforward
@@Flackon My brother, I don't even see that as straightforward because real life is a lot more complicated than that. But I salute your Ramirez avatar.
@@GhengisJohn Yeah it is quite more complicated but I think the guy here was alluding to how women have the sexual selective power which is true in aggregate (although It likely wasn't true in the times of the patriarchy and certainly not in the Roman Empire)
"You are descended from heroes"
Stefan, I'm German, my grandfathers literally fought for the Nazis.
Yeeeaaah, that one made me wonder if he has a German audience. Not made up of holocaust deniers. Chances are slim.
They all propably believe in the clean wehrmacht myth anyway
@@laurioho2041 lol
Lol Oo
@@laurioho2041 lmfao true
The nazi phase sucks but if u go further back like waaaaay further back Germany has done really cool things (one of the most important countries in Europe)
"That's from his video about Zootopia"
...
WHAT?
Yes. As noted by others, Molyneux is fucking unhinged.
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
Damn........ We said the exact same thing....... months apart.
Nice
The “what is Stefan talking about” game is my favorite
But if you did not listen to the rant already you'd never be able to guess correctly... he is totally out there... all the time.
@@Ugly_German_Truths e
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Gonna be honest. I just imagine him ranting to little girls about how frozen represents the sexual market place and giggle
I'm ashamed that I could guess accurately despite never having seen any of the mentioned videos.
Willow Wisp how?
My mom married a well-educated, hardworking, intelligent, kind man, who it turns out didn't have very much clue how to raise a child. It doesn't take an asshole to make a bad parent.
Yeah my dad passed away, isn’t my mom such a cunt for marrying someone who died?
@@connorbranscombe6819 she is if she married him after his death ;)
also: being an asshole isn't inheritable let alone genetic. there is no "asshole gene" that they're willingly passing on or anything.
the reason people are abusive for example does not (contrary to popular belief) seem to correlate with having abusive parents. (idk about the source for that but i saw it in a book called "why does he do that?" in case you want to look for it. ik it's not enough but hey). though that connection does grow far stronger in the cases of particularly violent offenders.
whereas stefan seems to think that if every woman married a "nice guy" that abuse would disappear.
Right. Parenting is a skill not everyone has. But it should be part of our education. Lack of education isn't excuse why we didnt educate in this or other field we should.
My mom's marriage to my dad was an arranged marriage by their fathers in the fundamentalist community I grew up in. It must have been her fault for agreeing to marry a husband who was chosen for her by other men.
I love that “women choosing assholes” is both a great reproductive strategy and the end of the human race for Stefan.
Wait a second.
Holy shit. That logical conclusion was such a fucking shambles that only after reading your comment did I realize how overwhelmingly shit it was
Also it's doubly funny since he's an asshole, himself
So why do women choose assholes?
@@JFRAMEUSA Some women think they can fix an asshole, some women don’t think the man in question is an asshole, some women choose a man that wasn’t an asshole before but became an asshole over time, and so on ad nauseum. Your question is so weird because it could be met with *countless* responses. To reduce a woman’s choice of an asshole partner to reproductive strategism is silly.
No no no, I think women are great, they didn't choose him.
Stefan: Stop saying your ancestors were evil!
Also Stefan: Evil exists because women have been propagating it genetically for generations!
He means that your male ancestors aren’t evil. Whenever he says anything about society or ancestors or the world, he means men only.
@@kyro8559 even then he asserts that being an asshole is a "good mating strategy," so statistically it's likely both your ancestors were assholes.
@@BaronCemetery that's not statistically likely, that's a fact.
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He hasn't said that.
@@aglazeddonut6635 You got a source for those statistics?
Lmao he picked a point in history where slavery was rampant as the happiest overall time for the human race. Yeah, except for all the SLAVES
Yeah but you see it's very clever, if you just don't consider slaves human, hey presto everyone's happy
@Sigurd Blergh Blergh if you work really well as a slave, they might let you retire before you die.
@@j.kaimori3848 Yay! that's so much better
Slaves don't count as people though, everyone knows that.
Has there ever been a time without slavery?
To be fair, grains are "slow carbs" so they take a while to topple empires.
Godamnit :-). Good one.
I recommend the Keto diet for all the up and coming empires out there, that shit will keep your state fit and healthy.
@@toddharig8142 Does it have soy though?
@@moscanaveia Well, seeing as soy turns men into fembois that will just accelerate the degradation.
@@toddharig8142 Femboys or a successful empire? Well, I know which one I'm choosing.
''the answer is obvious but political correctness prevents us from talking about it'' is the most ominous answer anyone could give when asked about how to deal with the urban poor
It leads to every possible answer, really.
Like, the answer could be "just start eating them. Literally devour the poor", but it could also be "just behead all landlords and make a public example out of them". 💀
@@floreroafloreril1458the latter has proven itself to work
@@floreroafloreril1458
The latter doesn’t sound like the wrong answer.
He’s a Nazi, so it would definitely be a really bad idea to follow anything he says.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the irony of talking about how "political correctness" prevents us from talking?
Stefan: "I worked in a daycare"
Have more terrifying words ever been spoken?
Individual Fat1 you should see the sorts of people that work in social services.
“Trump is president”
Gotta get those fresh, ripe, fertile eggs early!
ThatBad Player I don't necessarily think he's good but politicians doing stupid things isn't new whereas I don't expect daycare workers to be ... well...stephan molyneux
@ruslas zubres nothing wrong with a man in daycare, but if said man goes on to say "all bad men came from WOMEN'S VAGINAS, and we need to hold them accountable!".
Idk if I would want my child around said man.
It blows my mind that stefan simultaneously puts so much responsibility on women while also claiming that they shouldn't be allowed to have any responsibilities
but if women aren't simultaneously too stupid to be allowed and also responsible for all the most society impacting choices made today then some of the things wrong in my life might be MY fault, and that's unacceptable u.u
This right there has always made me laugh because of the transparent and illogical argument. We are watching the rationalization of a fragile mind.
The same goes his antagonistic opinion on "weak liberal men" or "soy boys" as well, yet he proudly coop the social, moral and scientific of such men.
Blame, not responsibility. Your play on words doesn’t fit
@@feonjun The Left are also all soy boys and weak low t bayta cucks but are also dangerous Antifa thugs that need to be imprisoned.
its incredible how this all boils down to a middle aged man applying "nice guys finish last" to the fall of the Rome.
It's incredible how this all boils down to you agreeing with him and disagreeing with him at the same time without being aware it. You know, sort of like the same like a neo-nazi claiming to hate wars brought about by international jewry but at the same time glorifying wars as both noble and heroic. Molyneux is useless. But most of you chimps commenting here are just raging chimps trying to *out-chimp* him and as such you're in no position to point fingers at him.
You know what the irony is? You're unwittingly empowering the likes of him because you're too ignorant to see that your high-school p*ssing contest level retorts are NOT going to stop vile scum like him.
while showing he does not understand "nicety" OR Rome ;)
Yep, but then ignorance is the mother of Arrogance
You have to love how he makes it a woman's fault for having children with "assholes" bu there is no blame for the "assholes" themselves. Absolutely fascinating.
Stefan just reminds me of so-called "incels".
It is accurate to say that we have some shit people in the world who are that way because their parents were assholes or chose partners poorly.
But ALL genders are capable of both being or ending up with assholes.
And plenty of people who were raised by assholes grow up to be good people, and vice versa.
He talks as though women are deliberately choosing the worst possible partners, and totally discounts the fact that you can be with a person for a long time before their true colours come out.
He also never provides any examples of what a non asshole partner would be like which tells me he doesn't know, or does know but knows he isn't that example so he doesn't bring it up.
It is highly upsetting not just what this guy says but that there are such bitter, deluded, hate filled people in the world.
He looks too old to reform his views but also he is intelligent enough to really be dangerous
Classic misogyny. It’s not the man’s fault for being an abuser. It’s the woman’s fault for being with him.
Mothers play a huge role in the development of the personality
@@bellatordei3440 As do fathers and at some point adults are all responsible for their own actions.
>Woman has baby
>Rome collapses
>Wamen bad
Jimmy Scrambles >Jimmy smart
@Boxcarcifer Ok, and what about communism/Socialism apologisers? They killed more people in a single century than Religion had managed. (Ok yes, less people going back in time, but then... still one century, Vs. 2000 years? I've actually done the reverse of the usual. I've gone from accidentally Marxist, like any and all Lefties, to Right Wing. All I ever selfishly wanted was to be entertained. Commies ruined all the entertainment.
PS. I'm not a /fan/ of Stefan, but I do like Philosophy and I do like to hear his stances on many things. But all the no cos' he's bad, are no better than the Orange Man Bad Brigade.
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 every person that died in a capitalist country is someone who died due to capitalism
@@jomotaku If you believe that, good luck in life.
Seriously people like you are no different to the Religious Puritans who feared technology and 'Mad Scientists', only you all fear the 'Greedy Capitalist'. You all anthropomorphize either Boogeyman so there's something to blame with all the hate in your hearts, provided they're not your immediate Bill payers, because that just makes (The multitude of people I've encountered who are Anti Capitalist, when they mean Anti-Corporatist) them look unbelievably think and selfish, which most Progressives turn out to be. I know, I was one of them. Takes a long, long time to notice how Hippies, Hipsters etc, etc are often really nasty pieces of work. Secular Puritans, again... good luck with that.
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 its funny that u cannot see the irony in me giving u a meme answer to ur meme statement and then instantly making me out to be some indoctrinated individual,
like im not sure maybe ure trying to make fun of me right now but the inability to critically think about a statement and instantly resort to random generalizations seems to me like ure a cardboard cutout rightwinger
When Molyneux began saying "Young men...", I was braced for the world's worst cover of "YMCA", and I wasn't disappointed.
deutschbagnl 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Young men... we need a Western society.
I said, young men... you can put your mind at ease.
I said, young men... we're gonna make a traditional ethno state
And I say women... won't... give... me... a date...
ba, da, ba, da... it's fun to stay at the ole' KKK! the ole' KKK...
@@ryanotte6737 Eeeeeeeehhhhhhh, needs work.
Artie Rupinen How about this?
Young man... we need a western regime
i said young man... our world just needs to be cleaned
i said young man... put blame on minorities
We can end this marxist grand plan
It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T
It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T
@@grantcambron3597 hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thanks for making me laugh
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3. Egypt collapses
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Jelle Hondelink hail Sobek!
All hail Sobek!
So Stefan's sources are:
(1) A work of pop history written by an early-twentieth-century British general, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised;
(2) An audiobook by a libertarian crank, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised;
(3) A (probably) legitimate academic article, which Stefan selectively quoted and misunderstood; and
(4) Ancient Roman writers grumbling about "kids these days" as old people have done throughout human history.
Tbf, Stefan's work is a big [CITATION NEEDED] joke. It's amazing, not even a broken clock.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
My older family members when feeling nostalgic:
"Back in the day, we would pull pranks on our terrible teachers, run away from homes for a while, we were free, we did what we wanted"
My older family members when they're cranky:
"Back in the day, we respected our elders! I would never in a million years say something like this to a teacher! I LISTENED to my PARENTS because I RESPECTED ThEM!!"
@@ieat10kittens94 they crossed their legs? By Zeus what horror!
(5) he made it the fuck up
(6) his nice guy/incel ramblings
"I encourage you all to go watch Stefan video"
Yeah, I'm have to give that a solid no there, chief
XD best username I've seen in a while.
As a wise man once said "Negatory, good buddy."
I feel sick just from the clips. How much weed is this SOB on?!?!?
I’m worried I’d lose a few brain cells watching it
My brain still hurts from his bullshit about Zootopia.
He's against states and authoritarianism yet idolises Rome? LOL
Zena 364 Wait so by his logic the culturally acceptable practice of fucking boys and men in Roman society is “lack of degeneracy”
Zena 364
Agree.
Ainan Kashif
Nice token example. Lol they still do worst in other parts of the world
madison knight\ Decayed knight. Your lack of comprehension of ancient Roman culture isn’t surprising, but yeah actually sexual relationships between older and younger men were commonplace in Rome, and also Athens. That was just the norm. Dude. Seriously. You can’t take what Stefan says as valuable info. He’s an actual, legit white supremacist. Don’t make yourself dumber by falling for his idiocy
Arexis Renoldi
Rome was also able to interstate a multitude of cultures and religions to its nation and culture encompasses in some the greatest architectural feats in the world. Some society’s still allow sexual relations with younger people.
Stefan has a pretty low opinion of women for a guy who rails against Islam's treatment of women
I sometimes say: The only thing that is greater than some people's sexism, is their racism.
@@riotgrrrl8807 Islam is not a race tho
@@thrawnprotocol9780 True.
But sometimes I'm wondering if race and religion are kind of all mixed together in this issue, meaning what people are actually opposing is not some religion, it's more that that religion is foreign to them.
Like there are many people who can go on an endless rant how Christianity is somehow superior to Islam, totally disregarding the horrible Christian ideologies or what's written in the bible.
More importantly: People who want to exclude Muslims totally ignore that Muslims are themselves actually hurt by this religion and by other Muslims.
So they might say "Islam is bad because.... FGM" but what they won't say is "Let's make sure girls are being saved from FGM, for example by taking in Muslim immigrants who want to leave that society".
So it seems they are against the people who want to flee because of their race, because even when Muslims oppose harmful ideas in Islam and are themselves harmed by them (more than any non muslim), there are still people who want to deny those Muslims refuge or immigration.
That's why I inferred that at least sometimes racism is just hiding behind being against Islam, especially if the criticizing party is religious themselves.
It's like people are using the "look, how bad Islam is, it's harming people and it's evil!" - argument and are just using the Muslim victims of religious fundamentalism to justify their bigotry, without wanting to help them.
And why? Maybe because they're just racist. They can't be genuinely concerned about the harm an ideology does and at the same time deny the victims of that ideology any help.
I'm an atheist by the way.
I hope my answer made sense. I'm not an expert and race seems more like an arbitrary construct to me.
Believe it or not, I'm German and in Germany, we don't really use the word "race" anymore (at least normal people don't...). We talk more about culture or country of origin when we're discussing such topics.
@@thrawnprotocol9780 in the case of Islam it is because people don't like it because it's a brown people religion.
@@riotgrrrl8807 Good comment. One thing tho, FGM isnt islamic. It is a cultural thing. Neither the quran nor any credible hadith mentiones it
The funniest thing about Molyneux's ranting about "women choosing arseholes" is that he thinks he's *not* an arsehole.
If women chose partners based on them being assholes Stefan would have a harem.
It's always like that with guys like these lmao. Complete lack of self-awareness.
I sleep soundly at night knowing how many women have out-achieved Stefan Molyneux in every way
By sleeping around with douchebag guys?
@@JFRAMEUSA yes
Among other things. Out achieving him is not hard.
tru dat
@@ohno5559
Don't be jealous because he is smarter than you.
@@JFRAMEUSA is this a bit
10:30 on, Shaun you miss a really golden opportunity here. Most of the urban poor in Rome actually HAD jobs- they worked in cottage industries, manufacturies for the Army (making shields, armour, weapons- typically on an industrial scsle), in the ports, as sailors, as chefs for the rich, cleaning and maintaining infrastructure, as watchmen keeping the streets safe, in early factories (such as in the perfume industry of the Late Empire- which started to approach industrial scale and, a long with early machinery, might have led to an Industrial Revolution if the Western Empire had lasted a few centuries longer) etc. In short, they were NOT unemployed- but simply didn't make enough money in their jobs to make ends meet- partly due to the rich extracting heavy rents from them and the workshops they worked for, partly due to the relative lack of technological sophistication of Roman industry compared to today (although it was far more advanced than most of the world for centuries to come). In short, these were mostly WORKING POOR, not unemployed- although much like today, Roman writers choose to focus most on the unemployed...
"Darn Plebs. Getvs a jobvs!"
Could u give me a reference or a book that talk about roman mass industry ?
Are you saying that some people are working but don't pay taxes because their surplus value is being extracted by property owners? That's preposterous!
@@raphaelmt1706 that's sarcasm, right? (Seems like it, but on the internet can never be sure...)
Basically, yes. The landowners in Rome owed all their rental income from tenements for the poor to the value those workers produced in their various jobs. A worker's value (the value of what they produce) doesn't become less just because, through inequalities of social and economic power, they are paid less. Rome had a massive class or impoverished urban menial laborers who kept the workshops and proto-factories of the city running.
@@Supadubya XD of course it's sarcasm
The "Rationals" always tell me that SJW's are the sensitive ones that insert their ideology into everything like movies and video games.
But then there's Stefan who inserts his views on evolutionary tribal warfare into fucking Zootopia 3:31
20shitzngiggles It's only bad when the left does it!... Or something like that.
The left is held to a higher standard than the right.
20shitzngiggles Not to mention his patronizing and blatantly sexist mommy issues being forced into his analysis of fucking Star Wars.
20shitzngiggles yes, because films never try to give a message
That wasn't even the worst thing he used in that video. IIRC he devolved into this argument about World War 1 and white feathers. It went on for about 5 minutes before he brought up Zootopia again.
24:00 I noticed hidden in his incel rage speech, he slipped up talking about "assholes" and accidentally dropped "black" in there and tried to change the sentence into "keeping a flame alive" in a vague metaphor. He very nearly revealed in no uncertain terms what his real problem is
That sounded deliberate imo. It sounded intentional and there's a solid pause. Scary stuff
A black guy got his crush?
I heard that too. I wondered what he meant (I can guess) 🙄
And what's that? Because you seem paranoic
@@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244 what's scary about that?
Molyneaux: "Why did Rome fall? Because women won't have sex with me"
Nope. Thats how Sparta fell.
Molyneaux is married and has a daughter
@@Ponera-Sama bet he wished for a son 😒
@@Ponera-Sama I feel for those poor women. I can't imagine the amount of internalized self hatred you need to have to marry a man like that... I hope they're ok.
@@anaestrada6906 And yet he's complaining that women marry assholes. He should be glad, or he'd still be an incel.
Notice how he never holds men accountable for any of their actions, but demands that women be held accountable for the actions of those men.
Geary Well he says some men are just evil....so we should simply accept the fact some men are just evil while holding women accountable for everything. Holding one gender to a higher standard is just fucking stupid.
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last I checked society has no problem holding men accountable for their stupid shit...
Explain Trump
Geary
Molyneux in his own words wants to hold women accountable for the actions of men.
Isnt your comment directed at what Molyneux said?
So, what is the other guy barking about?
Stefan: I used to work at a daycare.
Stefan: Most people who worked at daycares aren't valuable to society.
That's called providing evidence for your claims.
This was actually a good one :) But still most means many but not all. You may check in dictionary if you dont believe.
By “most” I guess he meant everyone except him. Like most stupid assholes, he can only see himself as an exception, because otherwise he might have to gain some self-awareness
@@ebrelus7687 seriously troll harder.
Funny thing is, the labor market in my country is currently being severely limited because there aren't enough people working in daycares, making parents unable to work full time. Turns out they're pretty valuable after all huh
"The most recent republican president... George W. Bush-" felt like being struck in the head like a bowling ball how has it only been 4-ish years
When Stephan Molineux talks about women he sounds like a guy whose trying to scientifically understand why the pretty girl at the bar shot him down
Nah
Science gives objectivity.
Objectivity gives distance.
Distance protects his ego.
And utterly failing to understand the real reasons. He treats women badly, therefore they don't like him.
I used to say that about Tucker Carlson as well.
He is just a grown up Incel, that’s all
"I worked in a daycare" - Stefan Molyneux
Those poor kids.
Someone find those kids and give them mental help.
I froze in horror at that line.
As a cleaner.
Facts
Hopefully they weren't shown Frozen with him
28:30 The apparent fact that Molyneux once worked in a daycare is probably the most terrifying thing he's said.
Lol true.
Yeahh. I bet those kids know that they are descended from heroes, though.
somed214 Molyneaux lies about his past a lot, he's stated that he worked in a lot of careers
I thought he said he's BEEN in daycares, not he's WORKED in daycares.
He probably got inspired by the Ayn Rand School for Tots.
Whenever people talk about how family values have gone down and fathers used to be strong and manly and mothers used to only focus on loving their children and loving their husband and everybody always knew what they were doing sound like toddlers describing their parents at preschool.
Like they managed to live a whole ass 60 something years and never understood that things feel different when you're a child. "My daddy was the biggest strongest daddy in the world and he worked the hardest job and my mommy only ever thought about me and never about sex! How come now that I'm an adult parents aren't like that!? >:("
Wow you just really hit the nail on the head. I’ve never been able to put this into words before but you’re 1000% right, that’s exactly what it is.
My Father's grandfather went and left behind a wive and four children in the early 1910s, vanishing to America, never again contacting them... SOO Strong, Manly and morally upstanding...
I think the most disturbing thing in this video is the idea that Stephan Molyneux worked at at daycare! The idea of him spewing his women hating nonsense at toddlers gives me the shivers
What should scare you more is that he probably didn't, and appears normal in his everyday life. That's the problem with hateful ideology - it takes root wherever it can, sometimes in the unlikely, friendly guy. I've had people who seemed decent but revealed very shitty beliefs later on, and were probably equally surprised I was an "SJW".
jbaz77777 if you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticise. Second wave feminism fuck the west but if you tell anyone you will get slaughtered and yet feminism is a minority ideology but somehow ingrained it’s self in to everybody’s way of thinking! A little like cancer.
@@djdusted6485 oh hey, found the real cancer.
jbaz77777 Found the incel.
@Long duk dong Five seconds after some dingus thought of the term. "You want social justice, and I think this is a bad thing."
Anti-SJWs: Feminists read WAYY too much into things
Also anti-SJWs: **make hours worth of videos about "the Alpha male" or other tribal/sexual-based misogyny whenever they watch a Disney movie**
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When middle easter shitholes literally live word by word of their ideology; traditional? ✓
Misogynistic? ✓
Hyper-Nationalistic? ✓
Ethno-states? ✓
Homophobia? ✓
So why not convert to islam, learn arabic and fuck off to one of these countries hell surely like it
@@cossaizy6309 nO tHeY AWe nOT kWistIan
@@saladcaesar7716 lebanon is christian enough, plus islam is basically christianity 2.0
@@cossaizy6309 However they also hate brown people. So the migration option is out.
@@kazaddum2448 well is it too late to tell you most middle easterners are just tanned, cause you know, its fucking hot down there
Imagine someone robs Stephan’s house, and we all just respond to him, “why’d you pick a house that could be robbed? You’re causing the decline of western civilization!”
That whole bit about descendants of “pilgrim fathers” in New York bit at 21:48 pisses me off so much. Mostly because I am actually descended from some of the first founders of New York (back when it was New Amsterdam) and hearing someone just straight up pretend my ancestors were pilgrims is just....so annoying? They were Dutch, Stefan!! They were from the Netherlands! I know Europe is just one homogenous hodgepodge to you but it sure as hell wasnt to the people of New Netherland.
@Robert Bonneau Wouldn't have happen if they drank Sailor Moon instead !
So you speak Dutch? If not, you should try learning Nederlandisch
Go back to Europe, colonizer
But the dutch took some of those areas from Sweden!
So the Dutch weren't religious?
Stefan's default tone has a strong, unending aura of "GOTCHA!" like he thinks he's throwing down some sick, unpopular truths and refuses to be silenced, and honestly that's like the third most insufferable part of him, besides the sexism and racism.
Succinctly stated. Bravo. Or Brava.
@BLAIR M Schirmer Watch the video.
You summed him up perfectly
Insufferable is the exact word I was thinking of even before I read your comment. It's the correct word for this awful man
@BLAIR M Schirmer Do you actually need people to literally say "I hate women" to know they're sexist? Are you that socially incompetent?
Historians: Roman hegemony was a really interesting time in history which we can study to understand ancient civilisation, military strategy, politics, philosophy, historiography, engineering, social structures, empire building and collapse - its such a vast subject that historians have been studying since ancient times and will be studying far into the future.
Molyneaux: Women are bad.
Historians: huh?
How the hell do you get women being bad from the subject of the fall of the Roman Empire? If I were to offhandedly compare it to anything, I'd compare it to the fall of the Ancien Regime with its progressively distant aristocrats (and even that's not a great comparison).
that's a question you should put to molyneaux the faux intellectual.
the ancien regime aristos couldnt see the wood for the trees, whether male or female, so i would have the same issue with that argument too.
Though the AR & subsequent revolution was fascinating, so i'd be happy for any excuse to read into it again, just not a baseless argument that 'it's women's fault'.
@@rednaxelA11 I didn't mean that the French Revolution was the fault of women either, just that the fall of the Ancien Regime is more comparable to the fall of Roman Empire (which is a stretch, I admit). Apologies if that wasn't clear.
BTW, Molyneaux is also a plagiarist in his Rome video.
"The golden age before the decline never existed"
This quote just never stops being relevant, does it?
Roman Empire: economically based on slavery.
Molyneux : Well that's freedom.
Freedom to have someone else solve your problems
The concept of economics hadn't been invented yet.
@MustafSeye
me: the earth has been geologically active for £4,000,000,000 years
you: uh, no it hasn't, geology hadn't been invented yet.
@@alexscriabin 4,000,000,000... Pounds? And I didn't mention geology.
@@alexscriabin why did you use the euro symbol?
If women started to choose only "nice" guys, Stefan definitely wouldn't be one of them...
PandinusRex If women chose only "nice" guys, Stefan would complain that male masculinity is being replaced by effeminate degenerating weakling feminists.
Even then, sometimes "nice" guys can turn out to actually be possessive A-holes. A good example is Titan from Megamind.
@@aria5614 I fucking love your audacity to use Titan from Megamind as an example of anything
PandinusRex, Good point.
No, he would, but only because you used quotation marks
Stefan Molyneux sounds like a student trying to wing a presentation he clearly didn't prepare
Also like a student, he also plagiarized an author and passed it off as his own idea.
Holy shit, I just posted a nearly identical comment to this before I saw yours...
This is it. I couldn't figure out what he was trying to communicate because it was almost a stream-of-consciousness type speech.
He did put words on some slides, though...
So I have been put in the spot where an angry man starts loudly taking out his personal frustrations with my gender out on me more than once, and it’s horrifying every time. Especially when I’m not great at confrontation and I’ve misplaced my quick witted friends.
So with the tone and conviction he had behind his “women perpetuate assholes by continuing to choose assholes” argument, I was actually starting to feel kind that sick panicky feeling of
“Oh god, I don’t know how to respond to this and I’m genuinely scared of how this is going to go” when you finally cut in to dryly summarize his point before waiving it off and that got the biggest belly laugh from me.
Thank you for your calm, methodical approach. I watch your videos as much for the informational content as I do for the calm dry wit that you make them with.
Shaun is an absolute treasure, I recommend him to everyone
"Women choose ASSholes over NICE guys, like ME! I'M a nice GUY! Can't you TELL. by the way I randomly EMPHASIZE. random. WORDS?"
28:27 "I worked in a daycare and there was some nice people there, but a lot of them are kinda like minimum wage people, and so on. They would be the least economically productive or valuable people to have raise your children."
I worked in a daycare and there were some nice people, but one guy was kinda like a moronic bigot who had this youtube channel, and so on. He would be the least economically productive or valuable person to have raise your children.
KUKAKYOTOTOKYO - Thank you for this. I was shocked by how enraged I felt when he said that. Such a caring, big-hearted way to describe your coworkers, who are providing a vital, foundational service for small children. Stefan has the empathy of a hammerhead shark.
I'm surprised Shaun mostly held back from commenting on such an insanely moronic statement. It's like he thinks being poor is a disease that you catch from being around other poors. Plus billionaires would be like the worst daycare workers I can imagine like holy shit lol
@@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 I resent that. I love sharks and they have much more empathy than Stefan Molyneux.
"The most recent Republican President, George W. Bush..."
ah, what a time.
You almost miss it, don't you. ^_^
I was thinking this exact thing when that came up. ah, the good old days
iu dont care about the money guys. i will never vote for a king or a queen for the us president. wrex supporters.
Only a month after this until that changed, what a time indeed
I had to quadruple take when i heard that
He make women sound so transactional. He’s not used to being around actual people, or having friends, is he?
There are women like that in the world but they are the soulless female version of men like him. Then those men complain about being taken to court and have all their money taken away... they're the type of people who believe relationships are about an exchange of sex for money. Why wouldn't a woman who is the equivalent type of rotten person take her crappy husband she's sick of to court to extract the remaining money from him? After all, these people don't believe in love or compassion.
I mostly financially supported my ex for over a decade whilst he got more and more abusive. When I left I lost almost everything. It was better to just get out of there and forget about objects. I miss those things but it wasn't worth having further contact with someone trying to gaslight me into thinking his abuse was him "looking after me". When these men talk about how all women only care about $$$ and sit around planning divorce and bankrupting their ex husbands I know what ilk of women they're talking about.... it isn't most women.
Why does so much of the alt-right boil down to "women won't bang me and that's evil!"
@Ace Saylor Well the first one is true actually
@Ace Saylor incel detected!
@Ace Saylor and that is usually a good thing.
@Ace Saylor sure it is, you should have grown out of it by the time you are old enough to vote.
@Ace Saylor actually, yes, you should have grown out of it by now
Women "choosing" assholes for partners is a myth that needs to die. I won't lie, I thought the same thing when I was in high school and I resented girls for seemingly skipping over me to date unlikable jerks. Apparently Stefan didn't learn that relationships are more complex than that after leaving 12th grade..
Just the idea of being angry at a woman who is trapped in an abusive relationship (with someone who could have been a totally different person when they met), and "holding her accountable" is pretty terrible.
ye people forget that 9 times out of 10, a woman dates an asshole, is because when they met, he wasent upfront about the fact hes an asshole, noone walks around and goes "do you want to go on a date with me an also i am a bastard who will beat our future children"
He can be glad. I don't choose assholes, so I wont choose him.
Also hes the PERFECT EXAMPLE of a "nice guy". I realy want so slap his face softly with a brick over and over again.
If we pretend for a moment that Stefan is correct about farmers not being able to compe with slaves and thus end up on the dole... then the easiest solution is to implement a minimum wage and abolish slavery.
Slavery is the issue. Nobody can compete with free labour, so abolish free labour.
If everyone has a minimum wage, less people will be dependant on the grain dole because they have more money.
Theres other factors at play and I simplified it, but still Problem mostly solved.
I'm sorry, sir, but abolishing slavery would require the state to distort the free market and steal millions of denari worth of private property. Damned leftists, letting their weak emotions like "empathy" and "compassion" get in the way of economic prosperity.
Yes! Finnally at least one intelligent comment. Thats why China abolished slavery thousands years ago. Slave is a bad worker. The best slave is a person who thinks he is free. Like in modern times!
Not a historian but I think the very concept of wage labour would have been very strange to the Romans.
@@ebrelus7687 you think that the Chinese who work in sweatshops making plastic toys think they’re free?
@@garrettpreston4136 definitely not.
A lot of people worked for a very regular wage (or paid per task), including all of the roman state functionaries, which include the army, but it is also known that slaves themselves were not completely cut out from money, at least not all of them. It was a thing to own slaves and give them money for their work anyway, depending on the type of work they did. Slave miners or debt slaves weren't, for example, because of the cause of their enslavement (for slave miners, mostly condemnation for a crime ; for debt slaves, well it's self-explanatory, you are in debt and temporarily* become a slave to compensate)
And obviously, any worker that was not a slave had to be paid : depending on the qualification and how they had been hired, the wage for regular or per task.
Regarding the grain dole; I can't fathom the mental hoops one must jump through to acknowledge that the influx of slavery caused a job shortage for farmers, and *still somehow* blame the welfare program enacted to combat a potential revolt as the reason for an economic crash and NOT the slave trade that started it all to begin with.
"Your ancestors fought hard to extend your freedoms"
my grandpas were both nazi paratroopers
Those are exactly the sorts of ancestors he most wants to idolize.
Ouch.
Oof
That's a real oopsie doodle right there, chief.
F
I don't think you understand Roman history. There was this guy called Seizure and he was the god-king of Romanistan for over 2000 years. He was the baddie in the bible and can also be seen in the film 'Carry On Cleo' if you need a second source. I don't know why you would though. Bible. SEE YA.
Phizzy
lmao
Phizzy haha
All that I've learned Is that Caeser is a salad dressing, dude.
Caesar lives under a rock, guys.
Seezar is a really short guy that opened a pizzeria.
"stefan molyneux's fall of rome" sounds like the title of a really complicated computer game.
Tom Clancy’s Why Won’t You Date Me Sarah
@@AppendixMIA Based on "Tommy Wiseau's You're tearing me apart, Lisa!"
Sid Meier's We Live In A Society IV
I wish..
@Ian Smith Yeah, I confused him with Peter Molyneux at first ...
I love him going "There only used to be elite universities like Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge."
Dude. My University is older than your freaking country.
Multiple non-elite Dutch universities are even older than his country LOL.
@@TikoVerhelst lol. I even studied at one :D
My high school was 30 years younger than his country
and most of the modern elite universities (those in the old world as well) started out as bible schools that trained preachers, not academical institutions creating the leading spriits of the englightenment ;)
The "women only date assholes" rant was head-scratching for me. In fact, that view in general baffles me, because the people behind it so rarely define what they mean by assholes and their opposite.
For example, I would define Stefan Molyneux, who doesn't read or understand his sources, and generally blames women for the complex and varied instances of child abuse, as an asshole, but I doubt he would agree with that definition.
Also is assholery genetic? I don't know.
women generally lack the ability to differentiate between confidence in a man and mistreatment from a man....thus the problem persists
Anna Olson he also basically implies that the only reason a relationship could end is if one of the people involved is a bad person, which is a massively simplified view of relationships.
Asshole = anyone a woman chooses over Stefan.
Also - and I'm just guessing - it sounds like Stefan really hates his mom & dad? Maybe his dad was totally a legit, abusive asshole. Shit is Freudian as all fuck.
Anna Olson If I could guess (and that's if they're being serious about it), it's reviving old arguments for eugenics. At the turn of the century, many intellectuals were supportive of eugenics to purify the bloodlines. At worst, it was the Nazis, but I doubt he's going that far. The "liberal" form of eugenics believed that criminality was genetic, so the belief was sterilizing habitual criminals would bring the crime rate down.
Stefan watches Winnie-the-Pooh...
"Men need to secure Women for their tribe!"
I could see him prison style raping that bear.
@@willdenham
How dare you create such imagery?!
@@apophis7712 I know, reading again today I surprised myself. It's a little too much, and Eyore, Piglet and Tigger would have to watch. Hell he'd probably go after Christopher Robin next, just out of blood lust, and to show them who's runnin' shit now.
Neo Narcoleptic - Quite possibly my favorite comment in this whole comment section. I raise a glass of Nightmare Fuel to you.
Our white women are mixing
What I find interesting is that none of these "Rome's fall mimmicks our own" never bring up the destabilizing effect Christianity had on the Roman sense of unity and character.
Or the fact that the roman war machine was basically their biggest economic boom with all the slaves and manpower and recourses taken from where rome started to where the empire fell apart. Almost as if capitalism running wild eventually dries up supplies, corrupts politicians, treats people like shit and so on
Also the fact that the romans used lead in their water pipes
The ever growing corruption of those in power who were also the richest motherfuckers in the world while the countryside was being burned by barbarians and so on
@@juanpablomontalvo4715 I know that lead in the water pipes is a bad thing, but what does it do exactly, and how did it contributed to Western Rome's fall ?
Nihil Ego
Lead was known to be toxic by the romans but they still used it brazenly to transport their water and to sweeten their wine. What better analogy of short sightedness than that right
@@juanpablomontalvo4715 Woah, one of the mightiest empire in History, one that conquered the Mediterranea and a good chuck of Western Europe was partially defeated by their own carelessness. There's something to learn about that I guess.
@@NIHIL_EGO I visited Pompeii and wrote an essay on Rome's fall before entering University. My tour guide mentioned that the lead pipes were actually not very damaging because it became limescaled and congealed around the inside the pipe so the water spent very little time in contact with the lead. Lead was more widely used in makeup and actually took a little while to poison people. I don't know if they ever changed their makeup material they used over time or not.
The major competing theories (by this I mean, Adrian Goldsworthy and Peter Heather) are Infighting, non-romans getting gud + being pushed inward by the Huns, fighting against the barbs who had already been settled in Rome. Though this is not an either or situation, just different historians putting emphasis on different things while accepting its a mixture of everything. Recent research/theorising has centred around how the climate and weather may have forced The Huns to migrate west and thus displacing the non-romans who had to invade/settle in Rome to survive.
But my most favourite quote about this debate comes from Goldsworthy. "Not only are the causes of Rome’s fall disputed, but also how long the process took. Some, like Gibbon, see the roots deep in the earlier history of the empire, which produced a slow decline over several centuries. Others suggest a shorter time span, although virtually no one has argued that it took less than a few generations. Debate continues to rage, each age answering the question according to its own obsessions and prejudices. The fall of the Roman Empire remains one of the great mysteries of history."
Dude. You are a hero, and a genuine detective hunting down and investigating all those sources. While reading an article or two isn't difficult of course, when you read whole books, hunt out audio books via quoted transcript -- I mean, that's just damned impressive. Please keep up all this incredible work.
Pretty much everything contributes to the fall of Rome at this point.
I'm surprised no one blamed it on tornadoes yet.
i mean if you count alien spacecrafts as planes im pretty sure someone has
i first thought that said "tomatoes" and was like "no wait, those weren't near italy for hundreds of years more" and then realized how much of this video was about the times being off....
might as well blame the tomatoes. :P
tbh...I blame you.
clearly it was destroyed by the flying spaghetti monster.
on first glance I read that as "I'm surprised no one blamed it on tomatoes"
"Women only choose a holes."
So how many women have been fawning over you, Stefan?
Have to admit, during his long diatribe about abuse and criminalistics, I did smirk when he said 'Politicians'.
27:35 Karen took the kids, half my money and the western half of the Roman empire. It all makes sense
This is it. This is the best comment
Don't worry, man. She took the half that's gonna be worthless real quick. Trust me, your half will last much longer.
i want to know the name of the lady in Stefan's head. the one who he just can't stop thinking about, the one who rejected him and he never recovered from it. what's her husband's name? the one she married, who makes her happy. she hardly ever thinks of Stefan anymore, these days.
i'm reminded of a Zen koan:
two monks are walking along the road when they come to a river that crosses the road. the bridge is out, and there's a lady standing there, wanting to cross the river but unable to. the first monk hesitates, because monks of his country aren't allowed to touch women at all. the second monk, however, moved by compassion for the lady, just bodily picks her up and carries her across the river, fording it with his strength.
when they reach the other side, he sets her down and she thanks him, despite the awkwardness of being carried, it was a nice gesture. the monks move on, and the first monk (who held back from helping her) can't contain himself any longer. he cries out at the first monk, "why did you carry her across the river? you KNOW we're not allowed to touch women. you're going to get in trouble!" and the first monk just looks over at his friend and he's like, "oh, i left her at the river. looks like it's you who's still carrying her."
set the lady down, Stefan. it's time.
The woman is his mother. He went on a few rants about her as well. Most famous one when he said the only reason she was not dead(did not kill her) is because she is his mother and nothing more. Said she was abusive to him and his siblings growing up. And his father left them all.
Well his hatred for his mother certainly explains the "hold women accountable for reproducing assholes" rant, in ways that would make Freud blush.
That's actually a very good moral story. I'll have to remember that.
Well... he looks to be in his forties. When there is a divorce, courts give the women the children because men can't look after children. They are supposed to make money so that the mother can care for the children. It's possible that the courts gave her custody, and she abused her children. As long as the kids don't need medical attention, the abuse is shrugged off.
This is why we need feminism... so that men, and the courts, see themselves as viable nurturing parents.
I want to understand how he can possibly consider himself one of the "good guys."
"Every evil man came from the vagina of a woman..." is the most ridiculous, awful, bigoted, victim blaming garbage I've ever heard in my whole life.
It's also crazy he puts so much responsibility on the shoulders of women while simultaneously demanding they be given no authority.
I love how Stefan Molyneux just berates his own mother constantly.
he really needs some form of counselling he’s been projecting his mommy issues for way too many years lmao
It's clearly her fault for giving birth to an asshole. Apparently 🤷♂️
Now I'm just thinking about Diocletian yelling "MY CABBAGES!!!"
yay, I was also picturing him as the cabbage man from avatar
Did Molineux just say that Egypt was the basketcase of Rome?
I think he meant to say breadbasket.
Speaking of egypt, did he forget that egypt dominated the civilization game for at least 1500 years, collapsing only 500 years later
It was the breadbasket but the Empire eventually became self sufficient
@@cossaizy6309
1) Egypt exists
2) Akhenaten stops worshipping the pantheon in favour of just praising Aten
3) Egypt, the basketcase of Rome, is conquered
It was also one of their greatest sources of internal critique. So I suppose he’s right in a roundabout way
@@cossaizy6309 Yeah Ancient Egypt arguably had a longer run time than 'Western Civilization' has had (if you define 'Western Civilization' as starting in Classical Greece, which is debatable) and was already on the way out before Rome was even founded.
"WE HAVE TO HOLD WOMEN ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT DATING THE GUYS WE THINK THEY SHOULD. You know. like me. Nice guys."
Also, I mean... I'm no historian, but it seems to me that even at its best, "Roman Virtue" pretty much depended whether you were wearing the boot or beneath it.
Roman virtues are very different from what we'd consider nice things today. Contemporary chroniclers of the time seems to produce tales of backstabing, deceitful women from time to time. We might call the patronage system institutionalized, unashamed corruption but to these people it could be what holds their great society together.
I know this is years old, but you do an incredible amount of research. Thank you for doing this; I’d imagine it took quite a while to put this together.
Phil Collins
There’s literally no research. No links to support is caused just Stephan’s video and that’s its
Lady Cyprus
One of the best channels for leftist (who in general) are to stupid to rationally form any serious thoughts for themselves. All I get every time I talk with a leftist is a link to a Shaun video. And he’s shit.
Decayed Knight there’s a reason in the description it says anything else available upon request but since this video came out forever ago, maybe you can take a class and do your own research.
Heather Farewell
Tl;dr
Too lazy to come up with excuse for my leftist apologetic you should do all research negating the need to even watch said video. NO it is Shaun’s job to place evidence for his conclusions and to have said information readily made accessible and too also (if he felt so inclined.) to time stamp his video into sections, and his rebuttals to points made by Stephan. You can’t just say “Shaun shows all his research.” Then get mad when someone points there is literally no research present once so ever. Yet another reason I don’t trust the left. “Your not sucking up daddy Shaun’s pay load open your mouth now!”
Decayed Knight First off, yes he should put all his research up in the description, Nothing I’ve said entailed that he shouldn’t. But is it really that hard just to google the Roman time line and read for like what, 15 minutes? Secondly you do not know me so keep your assumptions to yourself because no, I’m not constantly sucking off leftists and swallowing their cummies, I’m not radical. Just because I agree that Stephan is a piece of shit doesn’t mean I don’t agree with concepts of the right.
Yes his sources should be in the description it if you’re really so triggered they aren’t maybe just don’t watch his videos then.
Sing with Stefan:
4:45 there's no need to feel down
I said, 4:45, pick yourself off the ground
I said, 4:45, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy
Thank you, that made me laugh
OMG😂
Also HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, he thinks that Augustus wasn't a control freak, this is a man who from the age of 18 had single minded ambition to seize power, a man who had his grandson killed because he made the family look bad, and exiled his daughter from Rome because apparently she was sleeping around. Does that sound like a guy who would just let the state run itself.
a whole culture dedicated to selflessly serving the state and also ruthlessly climbing the ladder of state power, was actually somehow libertarian
He also like literally legalized murdering rich people and their families to steal their wealth.
Like isn’t this supposed to be the worst possible nightmare for libertarians?
@@servoaugusta513 Comrade Augustus 😳
@@servoaugusta513 I think that solves the tax evasion issue.
@@servoaugusta513 Libertarians aren’t very smart.
“Minimum-wage people” has got to be one of the most dehumanizing expressions ever.
It's another side of the "Welfare Queen" label
Oh yeah, it's not like the word "people" has anything to do with humanity. Grouping people always inevitably involves some degree of impersonalization.
@@felixmoore6781 He said that they have the least amount of value in all of society implying that how much money and wealth you have determons (not native English sorry) how much you are worth as a person.
As a Classical Civilizations major, I was physically in pain every time the bald man spoke
Brienne Kennedy I have been scrolling through a shit ton of these comments, and this was the only one to make me Actualy laugh out loud
Hahahaha
What does Stefan mean when he screamed that "women have to be held accountable" for "choosing assholes" to have children with? This sounds like some serious Handmaid's Tale stuff here. It gave me chills...
"women needs to be held accountable for being raped", he's just as bad, or worse, than those he hates the most
And he himself is no asshole, of course?
in addition to what others here have said: it might also mean: "women need to stop dating black people". i certainly had that suspicion and that became even stronger when he said they cling on to "those black bastard..." paused and continued with "flame" as if he just caught himself letting his mask slip.
If you do not follow the logic. Everyone should bear consequences of own decisions and not being bailed out by anybody else, otherwise they tend to repeat mistakes which didn't burn their ass.
Also passing bad behavior on children.
Stefan Molyneaux used to work at a daycare? That is extremely frightening.
Nope. It's extremely irrational comment.
@@ebrelus7687 god is not real
It's weird how I feel physically sick when Stefan talks
“Weird”? Idk, I think it’s a sign that you still have, like, humanity and stuff. Hold onto that!
The way he pronounces words triggers my misophonia
@@Pepstep_07 No one, literally ZERO Canadians speak like Stefan does.
@@dhruvs8139 I didn't even know he's Canadian he's so nasty
It's not weird, that is the normal reaction of your immun system to fascist bullshit presented by 90 IQ right wing idiots
Romney: "these people believe they are entitled to health-care, to food, to housing..."
me: ".... yes... yes they are..."
Mitt Romney: Damn those people! Not wanting to be sick, starving, and homeless! How selfish!
Stefan Millienuts: Feminist need to learn your place in life and stop complaining so much about men
Also Stephan Millienuts:pretty women need to learn that they can't have everything because of their looks.
Also also stephan , i must have everything i want because i have a penis
Cossai Zy And a very unimpressive one at that
Alex The space monkey lol
He is rational. Building own life on basis of looks makes ppl blind to their other qualities which they don't develop. What is you complain actually?
As someone who loves history to an obsessive degree.
The alt-right makes all these historical references, lying, and cutting out anything that doesn't agree with them. It frustrates me to no end.
And you know what's worse: they say those horrendous things with such a certainty they are right, that I always feel completely baffled. They're either disgustingly dishonest or they're actual sociopaths.
the left is no better.
I dunno. Shaun seems to have a good grasp on facts and reason. Steevie Molly-neww? Not so much.
Same.
Nothing is more painful than watching an idiot talking about something he knows nothing about like he’s a damn genius... except someone whos doing it to push a retarded political agenda -.-
Extremists tend to call themselves "revisionist historians" that made the word "revisionist" a problematic word
Seems like this stefan guy belongs on r/niceguys
He's not only a client, he's the Nice Guy™ President
I'm glad there are people making videos debunking this area of conspiracy theory, really messed up my mental health getting exposed to this type of thought as a young girl
Wish I didn't relate, but I do. Full on had existential crises thinking I would peak at 19 and society wouldn't value me if I wasn't fertile, like what the actual f
"If you watched Frozen, and came away talking about human fertilization and the sexual marketplace, well, you know you definitely took a wrong turn somewhere"
-Shaun 2016
God, how many times do idiots have to realize that correlation =/= causation?
Fascists do not care about logic or facts as long as it does not serve their message.
In this case it's "correlation (as long as you don't look at the time scale)". In Stefan's history view: some guy sneezes somewhere in Africa in 10 000 BC → Roman Empire falls. It must be causation!
Do you talk about author of the video here? ;-)
@@kazaddum2448 just wanted to add that maybe any hard ideological group doesnt cares about logic or facts as long as it does not serve their message.
"The most recent Republican president, George W. Bush..." Damn that sounded good for some reason.
Bushy boy or an Oompa Loompa. The greatest question of our time
Technically it still should be true, these neocon lunatics now holding the party hostage aren't really Republicans anyway... and I'm from a country where the Democrats would count as right wing party...
Trump makes Bush lite look like Jesus
Ugly German Truths that’s because dems are center right.
It is ironic that the stupid, ignorant twat that so many hated now seems like a reasonable and balanced guy... the horror... the horror...
I just had the thought "I've never felt so hated by someone I've never met" and realized how privileged I am
Molyneux: "That will teach them ! No one will fact check 159 minutes of this drivel"
Shaun: "I'm a big Roman History fan !"
Molyneux: "Oh shit !"
Stefan Molyneux is a great example of something the western ancients understood all to well: How erudite rhetoric does not equal intellectual depth (despite superficial evidence to the contrary.)
Apparently Black Pigeon Speaks is a ghost writer for Molyneaux's videos.
EDIT:Ok, my bad. It is the other way around.
Felix Lace aka blackpigeinspeaks is the speaker for Molyneux . Molyneux gives him the content, Felix Lace does video production and posts on his youtube user blackpigeonspeaks.
where did you find this out? I keep hearing it but can't find a source.
Is that for real?!! Jesus..
hate women ok now know this bias bye
+Exposingfrauds Bps and Mollyneux Stephan has a wife and a daughter but ofcoarse he must hate all women.
Cool cat exposing himself what hell are you talking about you most be an sjw
The last bit about being descended from heroes who fought for freedoms had me thinking "yea, I was, but not the ones you think, Stefan."
For context my Great Grandad was part of the union strikes when Thatcher closed the mines. I look up to him as a hero of the working class, even though he did not succeed. He fought for his class and his kind. I'm certain that he wasn't the first union member in my family either, and I can safely tell you he's not the last.
*whiny voice* "they slaughtered all the natives!" Well yeah stefan. Genocide is kind of a thing to whine...
but thats FeElInGs
Not genocide; colonization. Now go live in an Indian Reservation and shit in a bush.
Yeah and what does colonization bring along? Genocide. Are you scared of a word?
These bits where these Alt-Righters become really unhinged and deranged in their rants on women are both fascinating and terrifying. It is the moment where their masks finally slip, all pretense of "intellectuality" or "rationality" gets pushed aside and their true nature is revealed.
Stefan: “Don’t make babies with assholes!”
Women: “lol ok.”
Stefan: “No wait! Rome!”
I laughed a lot.
the "lol ok" is never going to get old
Wait so if Stefan thinks women shouldn't choose assholes...does that mean his wife should be in prison?
no. it means that muslims get it right when it comes to controlling their women.
Mark Ganus
Careful, your colon is showing.
LOLOL XD STEFAN IS A TRUE ASSHOLE XDDDDD
If I recall, he isn't the one advocating for mass government violence and theft through taxation.
@@wetstoffels3198
Oh no he only advocates and promotes dodgy white supremacists talking points and thinks that taxation is theft. Oh wait... They breed...
@@assalane Can you explain to me in detail how taxation isn't theft?
Just the phrase "Sexual marketplace" makes me skin crawl.
Anyone who unironically uses the phrase "sexual marketplace" isn't worth listening to in my book.
it literally sounds like something you would see in a dsytopian novel where they openly trade child sex slaves
What term would you prefer? "Dating marketplace?" It's a legitimate concept.
you've hit the wall, eh
"Someday I'll meet the right woman for me, a woman who utters those noble words, "Treat my pussy like a Mr. Coffee aisle.""
-Stephanie Manure, 869 (584 years before the fall of the Roman State)
1. Roman Empire is thriving
2. Roman Empire adopts Christianity as an official religion
3. Roman Empire collapses.
CONICIDENCE?!?!?! Hey, at least there's less of a time jump for that than for the grain dole. :P
Wrong stupid. That's discounting the gradual decline due to corruption and economic failure, to say the least.
And the centuries between the adoption of christianity and the collapse of the empire
Recognizing sarcasm is clearly a fading skill...
It wasn't even subtle either.
I mean the civil war technically ended what was a unified Roman Empire sooooooo
Stefan has the charisma of a guy who leads team building exercises at a corporate retreat
I haven’t heard this line before, but it’s really good
@@waytoobiasedWoah woah woah, not copypasta. Original work ™️
alright team were going to go around the circle and tell the room 1 fun fact about ourselves and our favorite factor in romes downfall
“Hold women accountable for choosing assholes.” How about hold assholes accountable for being assholes so the women don’t have any to choose from?
why go for simpler solution, when you can blame women 🤷🏻
Both are wrong tbh