A 1994 pre-election debate between Mandela and de Klerk

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • On 21 December 1993 President FW de Klerk held a press conference in which he challenged ANC President Nelson Mandela to a pre-election debate on television and radio. "The Great Debate" as media framed it was set for 14 April 1994 and it was seen as a showdown between South Africa's two political heavy weights.

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  • @eddymakua2175
    @eddymakua2175 2 роки тому +62

    I WISH SOUTH AFRICA STILL HAD SUCH DEBATES BEFORE NATIONAL ELECTIONS

  • @pauliallen
    @pauliallen 9 років тому +79

    This is a historic debate. It is a pity that you have not uploaded the entire debate to youtube.

    • @someguy007
      @someguy007 7 років тому +9

      That is so true. More vids like this would give us perspective and understanding on how to deal with todays challenges.

    • @treytoomuch
      @treytoomuch 3 роки тому +3

      Plus the full debate is on UA-cam

  • @Brytons_Thoughts
    @Brytons_Thoughts 6 років тому +85

    My left ear enjoyed this video.

    • @intensecutn
      @intensecutn 6 років тому +9

      Bryton Cherrier switch your headphones around because they're the wrong way around.

    • @sinelizwisongca1312
      @sinelizwisongca1312 3 роки тому +1

      @@intensecutn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @WilliamPetersen01
    @WilliamPetersen01 2 роки тому +16

    Debates like this will NEVER EVER exist like this in South Africa again. In fact the current situation in SA is far worse than what it was back then. That is a FACT, due to ignorance and corruption that is running the country.

  • @gambu4810
    @gambu4810 5 років тому +42

    The Only Democratic presidential candidates that Debated in order to give the electorate a chance for an informed decision. Zuma would definitely loose an election if it had to go this route.

    • @ebekezelaconstruction1237
      @ebekezelaconstruction1237 4 роки тому +1

      You have clearly not heard his speeches with independent ear

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 4 роки тому +2

      @@ebekezelaconstruction1237 Hahaha. I disagree with you but what an estute response.

    • @mthokonly
      @mthokonly 4 роки тому +3

      Ugenaphi uZuma manje la?

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 4 роки тому +1

      @@mthokonly The 9 wasted years bring him in. If he went on a policy debate with Mbeki and with Motlante, we most probably would not be here. We would have had a privilege of voting someone we know what he's bringing on the table.

    • @mpilombuyazi1411
      @mpilombuyazi1411 3 роки тому

      @@gambu4810 He crushed them with more than words, Mbeki can take the imaginary debate while Zuma win the political battle through action.

  • @patrickesau2560
    @patrickesau2560 6 років тому +24

    Tim modise has his own talk show today 2018

  • @redmatters9318
    @redmatters9318 2 роки тому +3

    Just nice watching a civilised debate. All gone now all over the globe. Such is life. You can't bring back the past ways of doing things..you've got to progress..?? G'day now from Australia 🇦🇺 CHEERS to the ANC.

  • @LetsDoSocialWork
    @LetsDoSocialWork Рік тому +4

    Wow, such articulated and respectful debate!

  • @scatterlingofafrica8928
    @scatterlingofafrica8928 5 років тому +10

    So refreshing...

  • @jasonhavartino4387
    @jasonhavartino4387 4 роки тому +17

    Frederic De Clerk was a decent man...he never promoted violence....

    • @crunchkarma4907
      @crunchkarma4907 3 роки тому +1

      Murdered his wife. Failed to represent his people. I wish Mandela was still alive.

  • @AlbertvWyk
    @AlbertvWyk 3 роки тому +13

    The irony that today, the ANC has ensured SA is seen as a failed nation, with junk investment status. 👈

    • @simplyballing1592
      @simplyballing1592 3 роки тому +1

      That's because the majority of the wealth is held by a minority. Not enough has been done to empower the previously disadvantaged. Apartheid was terrible to begin with

    • @AlbertvWyk
      @AlbertvWyk 3 роки тому +7

      @@simplyballing1592 sorry, not true. Perhaps you want to look at SA billionaire status there son and how many hail from the ANC.

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 2 роки тому

      Apartheid will always be history and even though de klerk apologizes what he caused will never be forgotten

    • @AlbertvWyk
      @AlbertvWyk 2 роки тому +1

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 🤣

  • @lukhanyomtshingana1962
    @lukhanyomtshingana1962 5 років тому +19

    It was the Apartheid government making sure that the ANC nd IFP kept on fighting and also promoting tribalism under their favourite slogan "Divide and conquer".

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 5 років тому +1

      We are still very much proud of our Tribes and those of you who despise Tribalism are rootless westerners.

    • @alexanderfooy723
      @alexanderfooy723 4 роки тому +1

      Gambu If you think that we don’t celebrate our roots in the west, you’re quite an idiot. We can just do it without war.

    • @godcandidate9065
      @godcandidate9065 4 роки тому

      Divide and rule

  • @proudmashilwane4301
    @proudmashilwane4301 6 років тому +28

    two legends

    • @karimkiseka6032
      @karimkiseka6032 5 років тому +6

      you nuts! only one

    • @user-vv1do1wg1j
      @user-vv1do1wg1j 5 років тому +7

      @@karimkiseka6032 yes Mandela was a horrible person.

    • @gavinmaritz6845
      @gavinmaritz6845 4 роки тому +5

      Mandela was no legend

    • @amorlouw7045
      @amorlouw7045 4 роки тому +2

      True a black men can't be a legend only those with blue or green eyes can, cause they see what Satan want them to see.

    • @adeledejager2097
      @adeledejager2097 4 роки тому +8

      What democracy? Its a communist country....
      ANC-african national communists...

  • @PBX2690
    @PBX2690 2 роки тому +6

    Rest in peace Mr President ✝️🇿🇦❤️💯🌈

  • @msereza
    @msereza 9 років тому +55

    Can you please post the full debate?

    • @realquirkyvideos1197
      @realquirkyvideos1197 8 років тому +10

      +tshepo msereza - see it here: www.c-span.org/video/?56052-1/south-african-campaign-debate

    • @someguy007
      @someguy007 7 років тому +5

      Im scared to click his link...What if it gives germs to my computer 😷😱😫

    • @VidzMisc
      @VidzMisc 7 років тому +4

      C-span is legit, it has been around for years

    • @ArnoldDarkshner99
      @ArnoldDarkshner99 6 років тому +1

      Realquirky Videos thank you so much! I greatly enjoyed this debate.

  • @mrgodfreymunyai4482
    @mrgodfreymunyai4482 8 місяців тому +1

    Anc is not the Anc of Mandela. Corruption is in a fashionable, of which is a Shame Bcz the top official are more involved

  • @gambu4810
    @gambu4810 5 років тому +11

    Tim Modise is a Hero.

  • @muhammadomer7495
    @muhammadomer7495 3 роки тому +5

    He is 84 in 2021
    In 1994 he still looked 84...

    • @supersejkaj3093
      @supersejkaj3093 3 роки тому +1

      He died in 2013 aged 95, I seriously don't know where you're getting your stats from.

    • @muhammadomer7495
      @muhammadomer7495 3 роки тому

      @@supersejkaj3093 oh mixed him with someone. 95 great age.

    • @Frenite
      @Frenite 3 місяці тому

      Are you talking about de Klerk or Mandela? De Klerk was 84 in 2021.

  • @heroldheine1016
    @heroldheine1016 4 роки тому +9

    Look at the police today? What would the response be if this debate was done today?

    • @heroldheine1016
      @heroldheine1016 4 роки тому +1

      One of the top police officers suspended! 😂 How many are suspended today?

  • @abdallasa7077
    @abdallasa7077 3 роки тому +3

    So KZN and parts of Gauteng have always been problems.

  • @TruthbBeTold
    @TruthbBeTold 2 роки тому +1

    Same problems..different dates..different party in charge.. the people of this country are a problem 🙄

    • @vhakisa
      @vhakisa 2 роки тому

      Go back to indian. Futsek

  • @stephanboshoff3636
    @stephanboshoff3636 2 роки тому +1

    Where south africa began sinking 🤔 now almost nothing left

  • @rishaansayedusuf5812
    @rishaansayedusuf5812 3 роки тому +3

    Do we still have debates between candidates in today's age before elections.

  • @zukoboltina8330
    @zukoboltina8330 Рік тому

    Give us sound we can't hear them

  • @andrewmohlala3262
    @andrewmohlala3262 2 роки тому +2

    When he speaks about the coverups notice how speaks with do much pain

  • @123brownjames
    @123brownjames 3 роки тому +11

    Mandela and De Klerk were legends

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 2 роки тому +4

      Just Mandela .

    • @nick-her9275
      @nick-her9275 2 роки тому +2

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 just de Klerk, Mandela was a terrorist

    • @itz.koketso_mula7537
      @itz.koketso_mula7537 2 роки тому

      @@nick-her9275 no he was not he fought for the freedom of African people but your white president treated African people like trash he is one of the reason there is such a thing called racism ugh

    • @nick-her9275
      @nick-her9275 2 роки тому +2

      @@itz.koketso_mula7537 news flask de Klerk didn’t invent apartheid he only inherited and dismantled it. Nelson Mandelas wife supported the burning of black people who openly supported apartheid. Nelson Mandela was a racist and a terrorist.

    • @phumlaningwenya6062
      @phumlaningwenya6062 2 роки тому

      Only a white racist or a black sellout who sees de Klerk as a legend onphikisayo akeze silwe

  • @matchmerchant
    @matchmerchant 10 років тому +6

    no bloody sound..

  • @docholl93
    @docholl93 2 роки тому +1

    Two human treasures.

    • @scorpi972
      @scorpi972 Рік тому

      De clerk was a racist human trash

  • @thattvguyvorster5250
    @thattvguyvorster5250 4 роки тому +2

    end credits???

  • @sam_6447
    @sam_6447 7 років тому +11

    Defensive de Klerk

  • @windiamigo5312
    @windiamigo5312 2 роки тому +2

    R.I.P. DE KLERK

  • @tshepotau5754
    @tshepotau5754 Рік тому

    Contrary the popular narrative Deklerk nailed this debate although he was a dishonest man.

  • @mozdickson
    @mozdickson 10 років тому +21

    Scrappy sound but.. VIVA MADIBA!!!

  • @alleluiamkwayi678
    @alleluiamkwayi678 2 роки тому +1

    They gone with a lot of secrets to the graveyard RIP both killer's

  • @atangadam724
    @atangadam724 4 роки тому

    Lesotho Parliament by thabane

  • @Kameruner
    @Kameruner 3 роки тому

    1:35 They foreshadowed 2020/2021 in 1993

  • @sfortunavargiu9273
    @sfortunavargiu9273 Рік тому

    Oggi e domenica mondina ricordate undici sla ricarica anche dance segretaria che il giorno processo era a Nuoro msriatommasa aaaaaaaasaaa

  • @thobelasigidi420
    @thobelasigidi420 Місяць тому

    Sell out

  • @peter-johndejong9880
    @peter-johndejong9880 6 років тому +8

    Africa was economically and financially so much better of, all the anc did was enrich ....

    • @pastorkmonyisi1742
      @pastorkmonyisi1742 6 років тому +9

      to you white people. you are so brave to come here and have the audacity to say such rubbish! Apartheid favoured you the whites, vele you would utter such nonsense. we are coming for our land

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 років тому +3

      Kagiso Mookwa what did the and government do to better the country besides enriching friend, crime and violence increased, and the economy is not as strong anymore

    • @pastorkmonyisi1742
      @pastorkmonyisi1742 6 років тому +7

      your reason is not just racially obscure in disguise but is stupid. africa was a better place before the whites invaded their nose into the continent. we talking taking the land back then the investors are said to be leaving, where were this investors when the apartheid government killed the blacks because of the same land? it is evident that you economic stability was raised by the death of this innocent black people isn't. if you want to talk about stability then dont come here with apartheid mentality

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 років тому +3

      Kagiso Mookwa My point is that the ANC did not improve south AFRICA, during the anc government more than 500.000 people died because of crime and murder,

    • @peter-johndejong9880
      @peter-johndejong9880 6 років тому +3

      Kagiso Mookwa you should also realize that south africa was mostly empty land when the europeans arrived, civilisation was erected from scratch attracting may foreign africans searching for jobs and security, a lot of jobs were provided by the settlers and farmers that did not exist before.

  • @brianearner5092
    @brianearner5092 4 роки тому

    America news

  • @frikkies333
    @frikkies333 6 років тому +4

    Verraaier x10000

  • @sibaningcobo9240
    @sibaningcobo9240 3 роки тому

    Rubbish

  • @dreamdiction
    @dreamdiction 3 роки тому +3

    When the South African National Party betrayed Rhodesia and SWA, the white South African voters did not protest, they kept on voting for the same National Party so that Vorster, Botha and De Klerk could do to South Africa what they had already done to Rhodesia and South Africa.
    In the 1992 referendum white South Africans voted to become exactly the same as every other post-colonial African country. Pietersburg in Transvaal is the only part of South Africa which voted NO. South Africans asked for the mess they are in today so they cannot complain by saying they had no choice.

    • @sam3407
      @sam3407 2 роки тому

      You’re not African. You’re irrelevant as a whitey in this case.

    • @josephkwashi3301
      @josephkwashi3301 2 роки тому +1

      So apartheid should still be in place?

  • @frikkies333
    @frikkies333 6 років тому +2

    Jellytot de Klerk

  • @tanyahouse1724
    @tanyahouse1724 2 роки тому +2

    Can you guys imagine what south africa 🇿🇦 will look like today ?? If south africa are still in the hands of white people .. it might be Australia and Canada ... The streets and city's is more cleaned than what it looks today ... And maybe south africa will be have strong economy