Just another way of boosting profits. Get rid of the meter readers and all the costs of employing them. Then automatically make price increases at peak times.
No one needs a smart meter all you need to do is submit once a month your meter readings, all you've done through getting a smart meter is giving your supplier the ability to cut you off remotely.
That's pretty much my conclusion too. The display is all very nice and shiny, but it really doesn't tell you anything you dont already know: Use more, pay more. Use less, pay less. I'm in absolutely no rush to get a smart meter.
The In Home display is really just to keep you sweet. In my opinion its a cost thats not needed. They should be pushing tbe data to your phone and pushing alerts that way. The real benifit is now the grid is under control for load balancing..which is a good thing.
Smart meters are in preparation for timed charges, so you pay more for your 'lecky when demand increases etc.... They don't offer the consumer any benefit, just the energy supplier.
Whats the problem? I just go outside take the reading and pop it off to the energy company. Revised bill in a few hours, easy and efficient and accurate. I don't need to know how much energy I am using because I already know! Hit the off switch if you don't need it! I cannot see the point of having a visual display telling me that I am not using any energy when I am sitting with a blanket round me, freezing my bits off knowing that I am saving money!
Smart meters are not for our benefit. The energy companies can cut your supply when they want and without having to pay you a visit especially if demand out strips available supply. They can change your tariff at any time and if you end up in debt they can put you on a pre payment tariff without telling
They are being miss sold as being for your benefit when the truth is more likely to be the enabling of punitive tariffs to cope with the consequences of net zero policies resulting in energy shortages. I got one several years back but I would now refuse at all costs.
where i live our power is monopolized by one company, and they are now trying to force us to get smart meters. and everyone who has upgraded that we know is now paying more each month per bill. the future is just always getting shittier
Important to make the distinction between a smart meter and an energy monitor. The smart meter is the box of tricks which is connected to the electricity supply before the fuse board and sends readings back to the electricity company at various intervals (and can be programmed remotely by them), this is the device that replaces your old meter. The energy monitor is the standalone unit showing how much you've used in kwh/£, and these devices can be bought separately but have a clamp to go round the meter tails(large pair of cables) to sense the current flow and send that info wirelessly to the monitor to calculate usage. The clamp system is not needed with the monitor supplied when the smart meter is fitted as that's built in to the smart meter. Neither of them will save you any money unless you actually use less electricity, the idea of the monitor is to help you see what things cost to use, and some years back they were given out for free by some electricity providers. Going forward smart meters will most likely be used for variable charging rates depending on time of day.
Some of those fancy screens cost ££ to run, I looked at one a while ago and it was over £3 per month just to have a screen saying what electric you are using, if I'm cooking or doing diy I know I'm using electricity, I don't need a screen to tell me I've just used 15p to cook dinner.
And now they remotely switch you to prepayment without telling you, putting vulnerable people at greater risk. Or maybe cut off if you're guilty of wrong think.
The only way I saved energy was to check my usage. I checked either with a kilowatt meter or the product wattage online/on the box and swapped out all my huge appliances - coffee machine - 1800 watts to 750 watts (single cup) or do a manual pour over with my travel/camping kettle. - microwave - 1000 watts to 750 - kettle - 2400 to a camping one - 300 watts now. My provider in Australia has my usage available online, just few days behind. If you know how much your appliances use, you can check your peak and off peak times (if applicable) and try to use the power hungry ones during those times, or change the way you use things e.g boil the kettle or make a pot of coffee and pop it in a thermos instead of making a fresh pot every time.
The electric companies want control, in a yt video a smart meter was taken apart and it has a big relay in so they can switch you off by remote control if they want to, as well as getting rid of meter readers saving a fortune in wages.
It takes a couple of minutes to read and send your meter readings on your energy company’s ap, I send mine on the last day of each month. These devices are not end to end encrypted so they can be hacked. EON gave me a device years ago that links to your power supply cable and tells you what power you are using. Smart meters use KVA instead of KW so the amount of power they send you is less because they can see the end use. Because of the losses over the power cables they normally have to send you more power in order to make up that loss. With a KVA smart meter you pay extra for that loss. If you do the maths a 45amp system on a smart meter only gives you 39 amps, if you want more you pay more.
Smart meter I thought would be a good idea but sadly ovo installed a 'stupid' meter instead..... Still no idea how much electric we use because it doesn't display it. There isn't even an option in the settings.
Same here but now, they are playing games sending my monthly bills out late then after I've paid they are demanding the amount owe of part of the following months bill they despate to get me in debt because I also waited 14 days then paid by card after my bill arrived when they were sent out correctly. 🇬🇧👍😁
Why aren't new suppliers coming to market who can buy gas and electric at the current lower prices and pass it on to the consumers. Is it a closed shop with no competition. Forcing consumers to pay through the nose for gas and electric the current suppliers paid to much for? I am with Octopus and they hound me every month for meter readings and if I don't give them readings with in a couple of days they stick on estimated readings. This means I now have a bill to pay with in 14 days. There contract specifically states that they would only do this IF they have not been supplied with meter readings for 3 months. I have had the discussion with them several times and it just falls on deaf ears. I can only assume they are a bit miffed because I cancelled my dd last year as they were going to increase my dd form £184 to £600 a month. I know they bang on about you being in full control of your dd with them, but you are not. I was unable to change my dd to below there £600 setting. Due to there doubling of the electric charge and tripling of the gas, minus the obvious government interventions, I was still going to pay over twice as much per unit for gas and nearly that for electric. In reality I cut right back and since the start of last October 2022. I have averaged a monthly charge for both electric/gas of approximately £ 90. That's with the government £66/67 taken off the bills.
Be warned!!! meter only shows the cost of energy used, not standing charge or VAT which adds over £230 per year on top of whats displayed on meter stand alone unit. If you add up a years cost on the unit and add up a years bills they won't match.
I’ve been avoiding a smart meter for a while. I have a spreadsheet I made that can tell me my exact costs by entering 2 sets of dates and readings. We’re moving house soon and I will get a smart meter fitted as we are going to have to watch things a bit more carefully before we overhaul the heating system.
Bare in mind that everyone is paying for it anyway. All included in your daily standing charge, along with all the customer debt of failed energy suppliers. You may refuse to have one but you have paid for one.
I don't want to be rude, but a smart meter is for stupid people. A smart meter is like cash compared to a credit card that makes people lose track of how much they spend, nothing more. I also don't see how such a meter could save me money, it's just ridiculous. The only thing it can do is suggest to lower your standard of living, your comfort. I can't install a smart meter because my house is isolated against radiation, a not so smart health risk of this meter. Beside that, how can a smart meter save power consumption? My A+++ refrigerator will not use less power with a smart meter. My sound system only uses less wen it's switched off. My heating system uses a compressor and pumps water through 200 meters of tubing into the ground and is the most energy efficient system currently available. If you turn it down for certain periods (being away for the day) it will consume only more power. I invested 80.000 Euro's into using less power which is a lot smarter then a smart meter which in fact is nothing more then a spy in your home.
Where I live we don't have a choice. They will come to your home and change your meter without telling you if your meter is outside. If it's inside they will send a letter. That's only so they can get into the house. Only have one meter company here. So it looks like I'll have to move to get get away from this s..t.
@@Chillednfunked Very interesting, based upon a argumented standpoint about smart (which are in fact stupid) meters, you conclude I don't have a live. Facinating sign of intelligence, I don't have kids, no wife, no hobbies, no parents, no friends, no nothing because I vent an opinion....I'm impressed.,...not.
@@cab479 Are you absolutely sure you have no opt out option? I don't know in which country you live, but I know in many countries they can not legally force these meters upon you. Keep in mind, it happens often that companies claim certain rights which in fact they don't have.
@@rickd955 I called our gas company right after I caught them and told them I didn't want one & of course, she tried to tell me how "It's the future" I said doesn't mean it's right or good. I also told her I didn't ask for it or order one. Already told her I don't want one. There was a Mears truck parked outside for awhile but then just left. Also said I don't have to pay for it. Anybody that would believe that doesn't have a brain. Our bill would go up. Hope they don't try again. Have any suggestions?
A couple of years ago I applied to have a smart meter installed and when the technician arrived he stated that because my existing meter and cut out fuse was mounted on a sheet of asbestos he was unable to go anywhere near it. I’m not sure that I want one anyway!!
It saves Eon the cost of reading their meters fitted to my supply of both gas and electric. They did ask me to read them and send via the Internet but I had to remind them that I was a customer not an employee......they weren't, happy.
Great video Andy, I use to have my smart meter display switched off and in the cupboard until the prices started to rocket from last October. The smart meter displays are of limited value but you can get readings from them at the end of the month to check against your bills, especially if the6 a4e still occasionally saying estimate. You are right the biggest saving is being with the right provider, however these days most of the Big 5 and even the biggest 10 suppliers are at the Price Cap and petitioning the government to raise it higher as they are loosing money. There is one exception. Who are you with now? In current market, there is value looking at the energy consumption beginning and the end of the day and considering, boiling the kettle once instead of 5 times before making a cuppa, turning off all switches of appliances on standby overnight or if not in use, it can make a difference.
Renting a smart meter from the folks providing you power? Are you bonkers? Just buy a smart meter online, they cost £40 and snap onto your incoming power line.... no company involved at all, problem solved. Never agree to allow your supplier to tell you what power you are using... measure it yourself using your own meter you bought!
I was going to have one back in march2024 they came to do it and didnt do it because of the stuff under the stairs ive heard alot of bad things about smart meters now and i will not be having one now put me right off them so i will keep my stuff under the stairs from now on that will stop them from putting one in
Smart meters are for the company's benefit. The customer gets nothing in return. If I switch off everything I'm not using I won't be wasting energy. I don't need a bl00dy meter to tell me that! If I need to do laundry cos I'm running out of clean clothes... am I going to decide not to do it because that poxy meter is telling me it will cost a bit more money? Of course it will cost a bit more money! Duh! I don't need a stupid meter to tell me that: I need clean clothes! I don't need a meter to send usage back to the company... how effin hard is it to read a meter and send the reading in? (I do remember when it was the company's responsibility to gather the metre readings: but now it's switched to the customer... as they are now 'employing' me to do 'their' work - shouldn't I get paid? My callout charge is £100 and there is a minimum 1 hour (£200) fixed fee. Thank you very much. Smart meters benefit the company only: it reduces their costs (no need to pay staff to read meters, etc) and, apparently, allows them to remotely alter/disable the supply if they wish... That is *not* good. And finally, it is just another bit of stuff that can go wrong... I want less complexity in life... not more.
MY BRAIN IS SMARTER THAN A SMART METER BECAUSE I KNOW NOT TO WASTE IT AND USE IT WISELY. I DON'T WANT SMART METER TO TELL ME THAT. SMART METERS ARE A BIG BLOODY SCAM. JUST SAY A BIG NO.
Why do you think you need one, that’s the baffling bit I never understand. If you’ve got one ounce of grey cells you’ll know that a 1kw fire will cost more than a tele to run. If you don’t know what uses the most power in your house then you’re lost anyway. These devises are monitoring units which log every devise you switch on and the time that occurs 24 hours a day. It’s all part of the governments policy on control. They can switch your power off at any time regardless of right to do so. I simple device that clamps over your electric supply cable can be purchased for £14.50 which gives you the same info if you really need to know how much power your using. Grow up people and take responsibility for your own lives stop allowing the government to lead you around by that ring in your nose.
Great video Andy! OVO have forced me into having a smart meter installed otherwise I'll be put on a higher tariff. Sadly this wasn't obvious when I switched provider. I've opted to have monthly readings, as opposed to 30min intervals, however i'm not sure if they are merely transmitting the total KwH consumption up to that date or whether it's sending all the data it's gathered throughout each month? Yes inaccurate meter readings are annoying but I prefer that to suppliers knowing how we use our electricity and patterns etc. Is it possible to restrict the data they acquire?
@@villanelle8888 that's good glad to hear it. Sorry I should've updated this comment. They said I had no choice as it was part of the tariff, however we were lucky there's not enough space for a smart meter. They allowed us to remain on the cheaper rate. We switched to another supplier after a year and managed to avoid having a smart meter. I don't mind sending the reading, it's the bill that annoys me 😂
@@OurWedding2012 we switched to EON Next via late last year and luckily managed to get a fixed account for about 2 years. It had definitely increased even then and dread what it will be when we come off that
This video is very misleading. You may pay too much if your bills are estimated however, you can get the money back. It's not the energy company's to keep. Let's be fair none of the products will "Save" you money, you pay to what you use, period. The only thing which will cost you money is not moving to a different provider to get the best contract/ price. I've heard, but not confirmed, if you go with one provider and they install a smart meter, then you want to move to another provider, they may not support your new meter! Also, many providers have Websites where you can login and submit your readings as often as you like, no smart meter required.
My smart meter has failed to let my gas company know how much I have used since the first of Aug this year and is still not letting them know after many phone calls still no meter since I have had mine since 2017 they it's out of date and need a new one we are now in November and still no New meter when and if they come i will be refusing it
Nope. Takes me 10 seconds to submit meter reads and don’t need a smart meter to know I’m boiling a kettle. Plus i live in a very remote area, no mobile coverage!
You really don't want to go anywhere near a smart meter at all. There's so much they can do them and it's not for your benefit. People should look in to it. Or pay an awful price in the end. I take it your in the energy company's pocket.
1, YOU DON'T LEGALLY HAVE TO HAVE ONE, 2, IF YOU GET ONE WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT YOU CAN LEGALLY HAVE IT TAKEN DOWN, 3, IT'S 50/50 ONE PART IS A METER THE OTHER IS A COMPUTER, 4, IT'S ONLY THE COMPANY WHO BENEFITS, THE COMPUTER CAN SEE WHEN YOU PUT YOUR TV ON OR HAVE A SHOWER THEN THAT TELLS THE COMPANY YOU'RE PEAK TIMES OF USE , I KEEP GETTING LETTERS SAYING YOUR METER IS OLD AND NEEDS A UPGRADE, WE GOT SOME BOOKING DATES LEFT, LITTLE DO THEY KNOW THAT, MY METER IS NOT IN MY FLAT IT'S IN DIFFERENT PLACE, 5, IT'S BEEN SAID THEY ARE A SLEIGHT CHANCE OF BEING A FIRE RISK ALSO.
My old meter stopped working and they insisted on giving me a smart meter... Three hours after the engineer switched it twice and tried to get it to connect not only did I learn a lot of colourful language but he gave me a replacement meter the same as my old one! Despite living underneath a mobile phone mast the smart meters wouldn't connect...
i have a smart with a display i love cause i can really see where im using more energy like bath etc so have a shower instead and make a saving also i love the fact i have no bills or direct debits for my energy i can see my balance and top up online accordingly .i did not notice i was losing a penny an hour of my gas balance.was running around turning of all taps etc thinking maybe this was the issue.still was losing the penny an hour afterwards.i then had a brainwave in th emiddle of the night about the pilot light on the boiler,when i googles all the blogs the figures added up for .6 pound a month for the pilot ligh.all in all love the control over my finances the smart meter gives me
The way they're pushing it, it's more likely that these smart meters are in the interests of the companies rather than the service users.
Never a truer word said there.
Just another way of boosting profits. Get rid of the meter readers and all the costs of employing them. Then automatically make price increases at peak times.
No one needs a smart meter all you need to do is submit once a month your meter readings, all you've done through getting a smart meter is giving your supplier the ability to cut you off remotely.
That's pretty much my conclusion too. The display is all very nice and shiny, but it really doesn't tell you anything you dont already know: Use more, pay more. Use less, pay less. I'm in absolutely no rush to get a smart meter.
Yeah. I think it's a "nice to have" to get accurate readings and no visit from the energy company, but not a money saver
The In Home display is really just to keep you sweet. In my opinion its a cost thats not needed. They should be pushing tbe data to your phone and pushing alerts that way. The real benifit is now the grid is under control for load balancing..which is a good thing.
Dont forget that sometimes,if u want to switch provider,u may need another notsmart meter
When governments or companies try the hard sell, then you can guarantee that it is for their benefit, not yours!
Smart meters are in preparation for timed charges, so you pay more for your 'lecky when demand increases etc.... They don't offer the consumer any benefit, just the energy supplier.
Whats the problem? I just go outside take the reading and pop it off to the energy company. Revised bill in a few hours, easy and efficient and accurate. I don't need to know how much energy I am using because I already know! Hit the off switch if you don't need it! I cannot see the point of having a visual display telling me that I am not using any energy when I am sitting with a blanket round me, freezing my bits off knowing that I am saving money!
Can't pay your bill ?
Cut your supply Off from the office .
No need for pesky magistrates warrants !
Smart meters are not for our benefit. The energy companies can cut your supply when they want and without having to pay you a visit especially if demand out strips available supply. They can change your tariff at any time and if you end up in debt they can put you on a pre payment tariff without telling
Lots more radiation and more surveillance potential
They are being miss sold as being for your benefit when the truth is more likely to be the enabling of punitive tariffs to cope with the consequences of net zero policies resulting in energy shortages. I got one several years back but I would now refuse at all costs.
where i live our power is monopolized by one company, and they are now trying to force us to get smart meters. and everyone who has upgraded that we know is now paying more each month per bill. the future is just always getting shittier
Welcome to the Initiation of GLOBAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE POWER GRID!
Important to make the distinction between a smart meter and an energy monitor. The smart meter is the box of tricks which is connected to the electricity supply before the fuse board and sends readings back to the electricity company at various intervals (and can be programmed remotely by them), this is the device that replaces your old meter. The energy monitor is the standalone unit showing how much you've used in kwh/£, and these devices can be bought separately but have a clamp to go round the meter tails(large pair of cables) to sense the current flow and send that info wirelessly to the monitor to calculate usage. The clamp system is not needed with the monitor supplied when the smart meter is fitted as that's built in to the smart meter.
Neither of them will save you any money unless you actually use less electricity, the idea of the monitor is to help you see what things cost to use, and some years back they were given out for free by some electricity providers. Going forward smart meters will most likely be used for variable charging rates depending on time of day.
It just added £420 per household to everyone's bill.
Some of those fancy screens cost ££ to run, I looked at one a while ago and it was over £3 per month just to have a screen saying what electric you are using, if I'm cooking or doing diy I know I'm using electricity, I don't need a screen to tell me I've just used 15p to cook dinner.
You do not have to use the display monitor
Had my smart meter changed back to the old one. It wouldn't turn on the off peak electric. This winter I had no heating and hot water for 18 month's
And now they remotely switch you to prepayment without telling you, putting vulnerable people at greater risk. Or maybe cut off if you're guilty of wrong think.
The only way I saved energy was to check my usage. I checked either with a kilowatt meter or the product wattage online/on the box and swapped out all my huge appliances
- coffee machine - 1800 watts to 750 watts (single cup) or do a manual pour over with my travel/camping kettle.
- microwave - 1000 watts to 750
- kettle - 2400 to a camping one - 300 watts now.
My provider in Australia has my usage available online, just few days behind.
If you know how much your appliances use, you can check your peak and off peak times (if applicable) and try to use the power hungry ones during those times, or change the way you use things e.g boil the kettle or make a pot of coffee and pop it in a thermos instead of making a fresh pot every time.
I just came across your video.My question is this- if smart meters were so good why are they pushing it down our throats?
One reason could be bring the cost down by sacking all the meter readers, make the system fully automated.
The Government want us to use less energy obviously
The electric companies want control, in a yt video a smart meter was taken apart and it has a big relay in so they can switch you off by remote control if they want to, as well as getting rid of meter readers saving a fortune in wages.
Which side of the supply is the smart meter fed from? Is it from the consumers side? I.e. are you paying to run the smart meter?
It takes a couple of minutes to read and send your meter readings on your energy company’s ap, I send mine on the last day of each month. These devices are not end to end encrypted so they can be hacked. EON gave me a device years ago that links to your power supply cable and tells you what power you are using. Smart meters use KVA instead of KW so the amount of power they send you is less because they can see the end use. Because of the losses over the power cables they normally have to send you more power in order to make up that loss. With a KVA smart meter you pay extra for that loss. If you do the maths a 45amp system on a smart meter only gives you 39 amps, if you want more you pay more.
Smart meter I thought would be a good idea but sadly ovo installed a 'stupid' meter instead.....
Still no idea how much electric we use because it doesn't display it. There isn't even an option in the settings.
I read my meter and send readings to energy co. They then tell me how much i owe them, simples.
Same here but now, they are playing games sending my monthly bills out late then after I've paid they are demanding the amount owe of part of the following months bill they despate to get me in debt because I also waited 14 days then paid by card after my bill arrived when they were sent out correctly. 🇬🇧👍😁
Why aren't new suppliers coming to market who can buy gas and electric at the current lower prices and pass it on to the consumers. Is it a closed shop with no competition. Forcing consumers to pay through the nose for gas and electric the current suppliers paid to much for?
I am with Octopus and they hound me every month for meter readings and if I don't give them readings with in a couple of days they stick on estimated readings. This means I now have a bill to pay with in 14 days.
There contract specifically states that they would only do this IF they have not been supplied with meter readings for 3 months. I have had the discussion with them several times and it just falls on deaf ears.
I can only assume they are a bit miffed because I cancelled my dd last year as they were going to increase my dd form £184 to £600 a month. I know they bang on about you being in full control of your dd with them, but you are not. I was unable to change my dd to below there £600 setting.
Due to there doubling of the electric charge and tripling of the gas, minus the obvious government interventions, I was still going to pay over twice as much per unit for gas and nearly that for electric. In reality I cut right back and since the start of last October 2022. I have averaged a monthly charge for both electric/gas of approximately £ 90. That's with the government £66/67 taken off the bills.
As of May 21 the best deals are only available with smart meters, its a con
Be warned!!! meter only shows the cost of energy used, not standing charge or VAT which adds over £230 per year on top of whats displayed on meter stand alone unit. If you add up a years cost on the unit and add up a years bills they won't match.
I'll never have one, tired of all this spy tech from mobile phones to smart meters.
Stop using Internet too.
It always starts with an "OPTION" to Opt Out, but ends with an EMERGENCY
MANDATE for "The Good of the Whole Nation State".
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@@Lothnar5070 I bet you can't take criticism since you were caught abusing your mother.
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Projection can be an ugly thing
I’ve been avoiding a smart meter for a while. I have a spreadsheet I made that can tell me my exact costs by entering 2 sets of dates and readings. We’re moving house soon and I will get a smart meter fitted as we are going to have to watch things a bit more carefully before we overhaul the heating system.
Make sure to check it's a SMETS 2 version and it should be ok for when you switch in the future.
Bare in mind that everyone is paying for it anyway. All included in your daily standing charge, along with all the customer debt of failed energy suppliers.
You may refuse to have one but you have paid for one.
I don't want to be rude, but a smart meter is for stupid people.
A smart meter is like cash compared to a credit card that makes people lose track of how much they spend, nothing more.
I also don't see how such a meter could save me money, it's just ridiculous.
The only thing it can do is suggest to lower your standard of living, your comfort.
I can't install a smart meter because my house is isolated against radiation, a not so smart health risk of this meter.
Beside that, how can a smart meter save power consumption?
My A+++ refrigerator will not use less power with a smart meter.
My sound system only uses less wen it's switched off.
My heating system uses a compressor and pumps water through 200 meters of tubing into the ground and is the most energy efficient system currently available.
If you turn it down for certain periods (being away for the day) it will consume only more power.
I invested 80.000 Euro's into using less power which is a lot smarter then a smart meter which in fact is nothing more then a spy in your home.
You need to get a life bud
Where I live we don't have a choice. They will come to your home and change your meter without telling you if your meter is outside. If it's inside they will send a letter. That's only so they can get into the house. Only have one meter company here. So it looks like I'll have to move to get get away from this s..t.
@@Chillednfunked Very interesting, based upon a argumented standpoint about smart (which are in fact stupid) meters, you conclude I don't have a live. Facinating sign of intelligence, I don't have kids, no wife, no hobbies, no parents, no friends, no nothing because I vent an opinion....I'm impressed.,...not.
@@cab479 Are you absolutely sure you have no opt out option? I don't know in which country you live, but I know in many countries they can not legally force these meters upon you. Keep in mind, it happens often that companies claim certain rights which in fact they don't have.
@@rickd955 I called our gas company right after I caught them and told them I didn't want one & of course, she tried to tell me how "It's the future" I said doesn't mean it's right or good. I also told her I didn't ask for it or order one. Already told her I don't want one. There was a Mears truck parked outside for awhile but then just left. Also said I don't have to pay for it. Anybody that would believe that doesn't have a brain. Our bill would go up. Hope they don't try again. Have any suggestions?
A couple of years ago I applied to have a smart meter installed and when the technician arrived he stated that because my existing meter and cut out fuse was mounted on a sheet of asbestos he was unable to go anywhere near it. I’m not sure that I want one anyway!!
issue is electricity doesnt connect to the meter - display - ring them up said something signal doesn't work, what the point see how much your using.
It saves Eon the cost of reading their meters fitted to my supply of both gas and electric. They did ask me to read them and send via the Internet but I had to remind them that I was a customer not an employee......they weren't, happy.
Great video Andy, I use to have my smart meter display switched off and in the cupboard until the prices started to rocket from last October. The smart meter displays are of limited value but you can get readings from them at the end of the month to check against your bills, especially if the6 a4e still occasionally saying estimate.
You are right the biggest saving is being with the right provider, however these days most of the Big 5 and even the biggest 10 suppliers are at the Price Cap and petitioning the government to raise it higher as they are loosing money. There is one exception. Who are you with now?
In current market, there is value looking at the energy consumption beginning and the end of the day and considering, boiling the kettle once instead of 5 times before making a cuppa, turning off all switches of appliances on standby overnight or if not in use, it can make a difference.
Renting a smart meter from the folks providing you power? Are you bonkers? Just buy a smart meter online, they cost £40 and snap onto your incoming power line.... no company involved at all, problem solved. Never agree to allow your supplier to tell you what power you are using... measure it yourself using your own meter you bought!
Interesting..
Or just stick to the analog meter that had always worked flawlessly 😅
I regret getting one with EDF, my bills are actually higher than the estimated bill now 🤦🏻♀️
That could just be that prices went up. Have you fixed you deal or are you on a variable rate tariff?
I was going to have one back in march2024 they came to do it and didnt do it because of the stuff under the stairs ive heard alot of bad things about smart meters now and i will not be having one now put me right off them so i will keep my stuff under the stairs from now on that will stop them from putting one in
Smart meters are for the company's benefit.
The customer gets nothing in return.
If I switch off everything I'm not using I won't be wasting energy. I don't need a bl00dy meter to tell me that!
If I need to do laundry cos I'm running out of clean clothes... am I going to decide not to do it because that poxy meter is telling me it will cost a bit more money?
Of course it will cost a bit more money! Duh! I don't need a stupid meter to tell me that: I need clean clothes!
I don't need a meter to send usage back to the company... how effin hard is it to read a meter and send the reading in?
(I do remember when it was the company's responsibility to gather the metre readings: but now it's switched to the customer... as they are now 'employing' me to do 'their' work - shouldn't I get paid? My callout charge is £100 and there is a minimum 1 hour (£200) fixed fee. Thank you very much.
Smart meters benefit the company only: it reduces their costs (no need to pay staff to read meters, etc) and, apparently, allows them to remotely alter/disable the supply if they wish... That is *not* good.
And finally, it is just another bit of stuff that can go wrong... I want less complexity in life... not more.
MY BRAIN IS SMARTER THAN A SMART METER BECAUSE I KNOW NOT TO WASTE IT AND USE IT WISELY. I DON'T WANT SMART METER TO TELL ME THAT. SMART METERS ARE A BIG BLOODY SCAM. JUST SAY A BIG NO.
Why do you think you need one, that’s the baffling bit I never understand. If you’ve got one ounce of grey cells you’ll know that a 1kw fire will cost
more than a tele to run. If you don’t know what uses the most power in your house then you’re lost anyway. These devises are monitoring units
which log every devise you switch on and the time that occurs 24 hours a day. It’s all part of the governments policy on control. They can switch
your power off at any time regardless of right to do so. I simple device that clamps over your electric supply cable can be purchased for £14.50
which gives you the same info if you really need to know how much power your using. Grow up people and take responsibility for your own lives
stop allowing the government to lead you around by that ring in your nose.
which is the best provider for a single bloke with 1 bed flat at the moment?
Absolutely not geting one. Being a computer geek, maybe I'll roll my own sometime, with the data going *only* to my computers. As a building project.
U forgot that once the meter is in it's a pre payment meter to so they could change u to that if they want
do your self a favour don't get a smart meter ... they can charge what they like when they like and they sell your info to the highest bidder .....
Great video Andy! OVO have forced me into having a smart meter installed otherwise I'll be put on a higher tariff. Sadly this wasn't obvious when I switched provider. I've opted to have monthly readings, as opposed to 30min intervals, however i'm not sure if they are merely transmitting the total KwH consumption up to that date or whether it's sending all the data it's gathered throughout each month? Yes inaccurate meter readings are annoying but I prefer that to suppliers knowing how we use our electricity and patterns etc. Is it possible to restrict the data they acquire?
I'm with OVO and they haven't forced me or put me on a higher tariff.
@@villanelle8888 that's good glad to hear it. Sorry I should've updated this comment. They said I had no choice as it was part of the tariff, however we were lucky there's not enough space for a smart meter. They allowed us to remain on the cheaper rate. We switched to another supplier after a year and managed to avoid having a smart meter. I don't mind sending the reading, it's the bill that annoys me 😂
Who are you with now, you’ll be on the SVR. Would you like to pay less, especially as the next price cap increase is going to be a wracking 54% again.
@@OurWedding2012 we switched to EON Next via late last year and luckily managed to get a fixed account for about 2 years. It had definitely increased even then and dread what it will be when we come off that
This video is very misleading. You may pay too much if your bills are estimated however, you can get the money back. It's not the energy company's to keep. Let's be fair none of the products will "Save" you money, you pay to what you use, period. The only thing which will cost you money is not moving to a different provider to get the best contract/ price. I've heard, but not confirmed, if you go with one provider and they install a smart meter, then you want to move to another provider, they may not support your new meter! Also, many providers have Websites where you can login and submit your readings as often as you like, no smart meter required.
Yes Garry I use the read it yourself method, works for me. Upsets the spiders in the outside box a bit though! ;-D
The new generation of smart meters, you will be able to switch providers no problem. The first generation smart meters, you can't do that.
How can I tell if I have a 1st or 2nd generation meter?
The answer is no. But we are being forced how can we stop them.
I just keep saying "No", nobody has forced them on me, they're not mandatory... yet
@@villanelle8888 Literally, this is just the first phase of their CONTROL mechanism. They will indeed FORCE it when they deem it "An EMERGENCY".
My smart meter has failed to let my gas company know how much I have used since the first of Aug this year and is still not letting them know after many phone calls still no meter since I have had mine since 2017 they it's out of date and need a new one we are now in November and still no New meter when and if they come i will be refusing it
Nope. Takes me 10 seconds to submit meter reads and don’t need a smart meter to know I’m boiling a kettle. Plus i live in a very remote area, no mobile coverage!
i do not have a smart meter,i have prepay meters,if i do not pay i do not get.
You really don't want to go anywhere near a smart meter at all. There's so much they can do them and it's not for your benefit. People should look in to it. Or pay an awful price in the end. I take it your in the energy company's pocket.
Sorry mate, I read my meters every month and I've never been debt. Corporate propaganda!
That's what I do too - works for me!
My smart meter monitor does not work.
BY HAVING A SMART METER you lose ALLL OF YOUR CONSUMER RIGHTS. Meaning that they can cut you off remotely .
1, YOU DON'T LEGALLY HAVE TO HAVE ONE, 2, IF YOU GET ONE WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT YOU CAN LEGALLY HAVE IT TAKEN DOWN, 3, IT'S 50/50 ONE PART IS A METER THE OTHER IS A COMPUTER, 4, IT'S ONLY THE COMPANY WHO BENEFITS, THE COMPUTER CAN SEE WHEN YOU PUT YOUR TV ON OR HAVE A SHOWER THEN THAT TELLS THE COMPANY YOU'RE PEAK TIMES OF USE , I KEEP GETTING LETTERS SAYING YOUR METER IS OLD AND NEEDS A UPGRADE, WE GOT SOME BOOKING DATES LEFT, LITTLE DO THEY KNOW THAT, MY METER IS NOT IN MY FLAT IT'S IN DIFFERENT PLACE, 5, IT'S BEEN SAID THEY ARE A SLEIGHT CHANCE OF BEING A FIRE RISK ALSO.
SORRY BUT I READ MY OWN METER EVERY MONTH .
its common sense use more pay more turn of appliances and save money .
You must be on commission smart meters are not safe !
I would love one because I'm tired of top up key,
Issue is scottish power engineers never show up
You want everything about what you use in your house monitored and manipulated?
I hate nasty toxic smart meters, Anyone who likes harmful wireless is selfish & pathetic.
It's not compulsory to get a smart meter but if your meter stops working there are no other options other than to have one installed 🤬
yeah, and that isn't suspect, I don't know what is.
My old meter stopped working and they insisted on giving me a smart meter... Three hours after the engineer switched it twice and tried to get it to connect not only did I learn a lot of colourful language but he gave me a replacement meter the same as my old one! Despite living underneath a mobile phone mast the smart meters wouldn't connect...
You need to get the tails entering the distribution board installed correctly. Not through separate holes
If it’s a metal consumer unit correct. If it’s plastic then it dosnt matter.
Peter Gore Seer,
Yes Worth It But My Account As Been Removed From Internet Acsses WHY, Have E On Removed My Internet Acsses?.
Next time go straight to the point than this long talk.....
i have a smart with a display i love cause i can really see where im using more energy like bath etc so have a shower instead and make a saving also i love the fact i have no bills or direct debits for my energy i can see my balance and top up online accordingly .i did not notice i was losing a penny an hour of my gas balance.was running around turning of all taps etc thinking maybe this was the issue.still was losing the penny an hour afterwards.i then had a brainwave in th emiddle of the night about the pilot light on the boiler,when i googles all the blogs the figures added up for .6 pound a month for the pilot ligh.all in all love the control over my finances the smart meter gives me
😂 the smart meter takes any control you had Away.
@@AuntAlnico4 why
Totally and utterly pointless. Broadcasting your energy usage, saving you nothing. Perhaps a benefit to those who cannot read a meter, but that’s all.
No don't costs more
No
Next time just get to the point
You gave in and let them fit it? I shall not . He can meet my well trained German Shepherd.
No