You Don't Have To Hate Nato Straps Anymore 😞

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  • @rakibislam2348
    @rakibislam2348 6 місяців тому +390

    Isn’t the whole point of nato is if one spring-bar fails, you don’t lose the watch?

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +15

      You know you have a spring bar in the buckle right?

    • @rakibislam2348
      @rakibislam2348 6 місяців тому +78

      @@WatchCrunchOfficialbut, if the other spring bar fails and it does for me often on the field(I am a park ranger), the lack of strap around the hand would make the watch fall of, along with the strap.

    • @porscheoscar
      @porscheoscar 6 місяців тому +8

      It is the entire point and has saved by crystal on more than one occasion. I also now use an Omega style dual deployant clasp on leather bands so it never falls off if the buckle come undone. And for Nato I use an elastic nato with paratrooper Marine Natioale style hook. All three are "loops" like a stainless steel bracelet without the weight..

    • @rakibislam2348
      @rakibislam2348 6 місяців тому +3

      @@porscheoscar good insight.

    • @rakibislam2348
      @rakibislam2348 6 місяців тому +2

      @@sackman1886 100%. It def gets style point but ig if you are not afraid of losing the watch, it would makes sense in this style. I wear a case 12 Vostok Amphibian on the field and it’s a thick watch. If you are not worried about it. Anything works

  • @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
    @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 6 місяців тому +123

    Might as well use a 2 piece canvas strap at this point, you've lost all the functionality of a NATO strap 😂

    • @reesebroekhoven3962
      @reesebroekhoven3962 6 місяців тому +7

      Exactly you can even get a 2 piece that looks just like a nato I think that's his vision of this thing have a strap that looks like you're rocking a nato but without the extra bulk

  • @krystianstepien5835
    @krystianstepien5835 6 місяців тому +98

    1. Why did you remove the spring bar ?
    2. What is the point to use a NATO strap to do this ?
    3. You`ve deleted the most important function of NATO strap.

  • @sympathyforthebezel6068
    @sympathyforthebezel6068 6 місяців тому +48

    Defeats the purpose of a nato. The whole point of that type of strap is to have added security of not loosing the watch when and if there’s a spring bar failure.

    • @edrader
      @edrader 6 місяців тому +2

      yep. i would not own a "nato" that has a buckle attached with springbar, another point of failure

    • @rickjason215
      @rickjason215 5 місяців тому

      How is it making the strap loose?

    • @ThatGuyUpThere
      @ThatGuyUpThere 5 місяців тому +1

      except most of us will ever get in a situation were we would have to worry about it, just like the obsession with water resistance.

    • @WillSavage
      @WillSavage 13 днів тому

      @@ThatGuyUpThere spring bars don't always fail or come out because of excessive agitation or rough use. Spring bars can fail for many reasons, some of them innocuous. Hell if you get your watch strap simply caught on something it can dislodge a spring bar. Don't need to be hardcore or outdoorsy to cause a springbar to fail.

  • @zmoore182
    @zmoore182 6 місяців тому +32

    I’m not trying to get a phd just to put my watch in

  • @0blackfire0
    @0blackfire0 6 місяців тому +30

    One layer NATO method is the best of both worlds. Watch is still secure if a springbar fails, and only 1mm of added thickness.

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +5

      But wobbly on heavy watch heads

    • @bobj8877
      @bobj8877 6 місяців тому +5

      Exactly, way better!

    • @edrader
      @edrader 6 місяців тому +4

      @@WatchCrunchOfficial never been a problem for me and that IWC isn't heavy. also real nato have a solid buckle with no springbar

    • @TopStrikerMaverick
      @TopStrikerMaverick Місяць тому +2

      @@edraderbro doesn’t want to admit that his idea is 💩 😭

  • @Robban.D.Jonsson.
    @Robban.D.Jonsson. 6 місяців тому +36

    I quite like the double pass nato, by far the most comfortable style in cold weather.

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 6 місяців тому +1

      You need to try a soft leather bund pad.

    • @Baronnax
      @Baronnax 5 місяців тому

      Was about to recommend a Bund strap too, if it matches your watch's aesthetic.

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 5 місяців тому

      @@Baronnax I've just made a hybrid bund/two-piece nylon strap in burgundy for a Moonswatch Pluto. It really suits it.

  • @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
    @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm 6 місяців тому +4

    I’ve tried this, and it does make the watch look and fit better on the wrist. If you’re that worried about the wash, getting caught on something, a spring bar, getting ripped off and the watch flying off, you should probably be wearing your beater watch.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому

      Excellent point. The seatbelt in my car is uncomfortable, so I just strap it across the seat and sit on top of it. I know it offers no protection at that point, but if you're that worried about crashing through the windscreen, you should probably ride a bicycle to work.

  • @americanpaisareturns9051
    @americanpaisareturns9051 6 місяців тому +4

    Personally I like the NATO because of its double loop. I find it comfortable and it holds the watch in place pretty well against my skin. It doesn’t feel cold too.

  • @Trippin36t5
    @Trippin36t5 6 місяців тому +9

    More complex than a regular strap, and now if a springbar fails your watch won't stay on your wrist...I mean I get the appeal of the look without the bulk underneath, but knowing it'll stay put is kind of a big benefit with all other natos. 🤷‍♂️

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +3

      It's like we wear watches for fashion or something 😂

    • @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
      @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 6 місяців тому

      ​@@WatchCrunchOfficialfunction > form

    • @reesebroekhoven3962
      @reesebroekhoven3962 6 місяців тому

      Wear watches for fashion??? No wear them to tell time and energy the mechanics of them they are a tool. Soooo you're telling us watches to you are just a fashion accessory wow that's pretty actually you do all this UA-cam and other befits just fashion to you pathetic

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому +1

      @@WatchCrunchOfficial The point is the NATO strap serves a function. If you're not going to use that function, why bother with a NATO strap? You can just get a regular two piece nylon strap.

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 6 місяців тому +1

    That was awesome.
    What a clever idea.
    Such a neurologist.
    The guest on the show was literally speechless for a split second.
    Nice one max

  • @1988banker
    @1988banker 6 місяців тому +56

    You don't have to remove the spring bar to do this.

    • @wibowopr952
      @wibowopr952 5 місяців тому +1

      they have to, this design is actually a single pass nato strap with the addition of a third keeper at the 6 o'clock

    • @poppy11th
      @poppy11th 5 місяців тому +9

      @@wibowopr952watch the video and instructions again. Removing the spring bar is completely unnecessary

    • @wibowopr952
      @wibowopr952 5 місяців тому

      @@poppy11th Look at the physical form in full on the website where they sell
      and think about how to install it without removing the spring bar

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому

      @@poppy11th You better watch it again. That third keeper will not fit between the watch and the spring bar.

    • @WillSavage
      @WillSavage 13 днів тому

      @@poppy11th but you couldn't pull that third keeper through that gap between the watch and the springbar so yes would have to remove the springbar to get the strap on

  • @paulandress6358
    @paulandress6358 6 місяців тому +15

    I love that you are thinking outside the box and dedicated yourself to a new design that will appeal to those of us who love the look of NATO straps but never wear them because of the extra bulk underneath. It turns out that if it doesn’t resonate for some folks, they don’t have to buy one. I always appreciate your positive attitude and thoughtful approach. You do yourself proud in your videos and now with this great innovation. Thanks for your years of work to bring it to market and your positive presence in the watch world.

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you Paul 😊

    • @paulandress6358
      @paulandress6358 6 місяців тому

      Just bought the honey Dijon for my Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition white dial. It looks like it will be a perfect match. I’m excited for delivery.

  • @sergpie
    @sergpie 6 місяців тому +2

    I seriously thought this was the only way to wear a strap like that. Learned it that way when I was a kid with my swatch. I could never wear it with all that material under the case lol

  • @KB-vf4gz
    @KB-vf4gz 4 місяці тому +1

    Max ! Love the straps when you coming out with more colors and 18mm ? Thank you for your innovation

  • @king0fheart4711
    @king0fheart4711 4 місяці тому +1

    That's people who talk out of their asses. The benefit of having the strap between the watch and the wrist is that the nylon strap is moisture wicking so your skin doesn't stick to the metal back.

  • @m.l.679
    @m.l.679 6 місяців тому +4

    Cant beat a good tapering metal bracelet with micro adjustment on the fly. NATO's and rubber, it's either too loose or too tight. I rarely get a good fit without micro adjustment.

    • @Mizi08
      @Mizi08 6 місяців тому

      I mean the nato is the best way to secure a watch. Even if one spring bar fails or break, the watch will still stay on the wrist. Main reason why they were used during wars

    • @m.l.679
      @m.l.679 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Mizi08 Yes, but what is shown here won't prevent a spring bar failure.

    • @Mizi08
      @Mizi08 6 місяців тому +2

      @@m.l.679 yeah I know. Just explain why Nato has a place. I don't condone this lol. Defeats the purpose of a Nato strap

  • @productproducer664
    @productproducer664 6 місяців тому +4

    Imo the point of a NATO is having the watch secured as safely as possible. Just buy a 2 poece NATO if you dislike the thickness

  • @sergiogarcia9822
    @sergiogarcia9822 26 днів тому +2

    Man, I just don’t like NATO straps, I get the functionality but it just makes the watch look cheap in my opinion.

  • @mraskett
    @mraskett 6 місяців тому +5

    Lol why would you need to start with the spring bar removed? You could just feed it through.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому

      No you couldn't. There's a third non-removable keeper on the strap that will not fit between the spring bar and watch case.

    • @mraskett
      @mraskett Місяць тому

      You don’t have to feed the keeper through

  • @johnctorides1821
    @johnctorides1821 6 місяців тому

    I ordered mine half way through
    the full video. Can’t wait man :)

  • @spoonraker
    @spoonraker 6 місяців тому +12

    My question is if this strap requires you to remove a spring bar anyway, it doesn't pass below the watch so you don't get the"flush" look of a NATO strap, and you don't get any extra insurance in case of failed spring bars... why not just buy a regular old 2 piece nylon strap instead of this? I genuinely don't see any advantage to this versus just a regular 2 piece strap.

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +2

      Some people like the aesthetics of a nato without the bulk. If you are worried about spring bar failure, then never wear a watch with straps.

    • @dayrenchan4665
      @dayrenchan4665 6 місяців тому

      ​@@WatchCrunchOfficialhow do we get the zero pass strap?

    • @davec4224
      @davec4224 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly if a persons issue is a spring bar failure then they cannot wear any strap or even bracelet

    • @skipinkoreaable
      @skipinkoreaable 6 місяців тому

      ​@WatchCrunchOfficial Does a Nato strap qualify as strap? You're referring to all straps other than Nato straps, aren't you?

  • @SJ-bs8eh
    @SJ-bs8eh 6 місяців тому

    Im very happy for you! Keep on going.

  • @spikeboy101
    @spikeboy101 4 місяці тому

    David Blaine: finally, a real challenge

  • @JasondePlater
    @JasondePlater 6 місяців тому

    Just use the crown and buckle chevron nato. Only a single 1mm strap under the watch so it adds no bulk and is very easy to adjust and fasten.

  • @michaelkwan3244
    @michaelkwan3244 5 місяців тому +1

    Even with my 6.5 inch wrist, most of my NATO straps aren't long enough.....

  • @Dialandhands
    @Dialandhands 6 місяців тому +31

    This is pretty fucking genius! I don’t like single pass natos because it just doesn’t have the same look and this does. Definitely gonna have to get one to try it out!! Only one question…why no watchcrunch colorway at launch?

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks! We had to work with what suppliers had at the moment before making custom colors

  • @csarswatches
    @csarswatches 6 місяців тому +1

    It works but that's a long NATO strap, otherwise you won't be able to reach the keeper and tuck anything in.

  • @romankavrelishvili8678
    @romankavrelishvili8678 27 днів тому +1

    Don’t forget to spend another 30-40 min to take the strap off when you go to bad 😅😅😅

  • @Scherzkeks1212
    @Scherzkeks1212 5 місяців тому +1

    If you can’t deal with a nato then don’t wear one. As easy as that.

  • @w4dZ0o
    @w4dZ0o 5 місяців тому

    It's a good thing you're wearing a watch because your gonna be late for work...

  • @mehmettanhantoygar827
    @mehmettanhantoygar827 6 місяців тому

    One layer makes more sense and still functional if you don’t want it just get normal strap with the same material. But still cool idea if you already had one and you don’t like how it wears.

  • @marcotroilo552
    @marcotroilo552 6 місяців тому +2

    Get the scissors out!! Or get a single pass😊 nice tho👍🏻

  • @ligitmuffin
    @ligitmuffin 27 днів тому +2

    Bro all this dudes videos seem sus like he doesnt actually know about watches he just buys them to make videos on and repeats what other people say about em.
    Its like watching someone who stayed up all night to do a book report by watching the movies.

  • @E2EK131MM
    @E2EK131MM 5 місяців тому

    Life changing.

  • @jzy0104
    @jzy0104 5 місяців тому

    That defeats the purpopse of the nato strap. If one side gives way, you wont be calling it a keeper anymore lolol

  • @enriquerojas9758
    @enriquerojas9758 6 місяців тому +2

    Now I hate a strap thet needs instructions to wear it.

  • @Nerfyy
    @Nerfyy 2 місяці тому

    700 steps to enjoy a nato strap

  • @elifarkas3358
    @elifarkas3358 2 місяці тому

    NATO straps gives your watch a total different look.
    I have a few straps for my watch, but the NATO has the nicest look.

  • @kiratsingh9467
    @kiratsingh9467 6 місяців тому +4

    Why start with the spring bar removed?

    • @WatchCrunchOfficial
      @WatchCrunchOfficial  6 місяців тому +2

      Because the extra stitched keeper won't pass the spring bar

  • @roncelaya4115
    @roncelaya4115 5 місяців тому +1

    What a monumental pain. Just use your leather strap.

  • @2K9s
    @2K9s 6 місяців тому

    Reminds me of a sambolo and zulu alpha … or the old Falklands straps from 40 years back. Completely missing the point(s) of having a NATO.

  • @KaWaDu-tq9on
    @KaWaDu-tq9on Місяць тому

    I have question, could you give my link to place when you buy this strap?

  • @fredrick965
    @fredrick965 4 місяці тому

    AWESOME! Now, a military or dive "style" watch can have NATO "style" strap.
    Makes perfect sense.

  • @Voidwanderer571
    @Voidwanderer571 4 місяці тому +1

    Wait so we have to remove spring bar every single time when wearing the watch?? Can someone confirm please lol

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 4 місяці тому

    Yes yes, NATOs are supposed to hang the watch if one spring bar fails etc. but, talking as an expert desk diver myself:

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 5 місяців тому +1

    Unless you're wearing a military watch natos make watches look cheap and nasty; no matter how much the watch is worth.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому

      But that's half the point. It makes the watch functional in demanding environments. Who cares what other people think of your watch?

  • @basiliobastardo255
    @basiliobastardo255 Місяць тому

    belt...so cool

  • @dandc2011
    @dandc2011 14 годин тому

    Why not just get a single-pass NATO strap at this point? I get doing this if you already have the regular NATOs, but for future straps that you purchase just purchase single-pass NATO's

  • @anthonygeiser9778
    @anthonygeiser9778 6 місяців тому

    Love it.

  • @plmn93
    @plmn93 6 місяців тому

    I dunno...depends on the watch. When you can see skin between the watch and band it looks off.

  • @davec4224
    @davec4224 6 місяців тому

    Very cool

  • @GustapoGomez
    @GustapoGomez 6 місяців тому +1

    Defeats the purpose of a nato 😂

  • @matthewdropout101
    @matthewdropout101 6 місяців тому

    That's tight

  • @bubby716
    @bubby716 4 місяці тому

    I don’t think he was sharing this tip as a way to keep the functionality of the NATO strap…yall missed the whole angle he was coming from because you chose not to see where he’s coming from. He recommended this for somebody that likes the look of a NATO strap but specifically doesn’t care for its function or doesn’t care for the side effect of having that function…I’ve never seen comments sections filled with so many arrogant grown men until I entered the watch world.

  • @kovacskovacs3465
    @kovacskovacs3465 5 місяців тому

    This does nothing new that a traditional NATO can't already do.

  • @reesebroekhoven3962
    @reesebroekhoven3962 6 місяців тому

    Basically all ue did was take a single pass nato added a couple inches of length to it and called it some new and different.

  • @Svevid
    @Svevid 6 місяців тому

    thank god I found this xD

  • @wibowopr952
    @wibowopr952 5 місяців тому

    There are at least 2 advantages of the Nato strap that are lost to make it a zero pass in this design:
    1. Watch safety when the spring bar fails
    2. Ease of installing the strap itself
    For the needs of a dashing appearance in a spoiled urban life, this is very tolerable, but not for the needs of survival in the wild

  • @manuluvshahalia
    @manuluvshahalia Місяць тому

    Criticism of the NATO strap is totally unjustified. Cutting the extra strap or reworking the strap like shown here defeats the purpose of keeping the watch away from the wrist to allow ventilation and lessen sweating. Also the watch can be stowed by reverse looping and it provides substantial cover for the front and back of the watch when kept with other items in the bag or pocket. It's the ultimate utilitarian strap.

    • @Xero285
      @Xero285 23 дні тому

      The biggest benefit of a nato strap is that even if one spring bar fails the watch is still attached to the arm. This was the original use of the nato strap. The best watch is useless if it falls from your wrist, especially in the dark or under water. That’s why a lot of military watches have no spring bars like the Tudor Pelagos FXD.

  • @laurent90210
    @laurent90210 17 днів тому

    if you have a buckle, why the need for 6 inches of extra band length?

  • @playlifes26
    @playlifes26 5 місяців тому

    That defeats the purpose of a nato strap, of not falling from your wrist when one springbar fails. You might as well use leather or a bracelet.

  • @NatureLead
    @NatureLead 5 місяців тому

    dont you want that extra layer to stop the sweat ?

  • @stevestojan
    @stevestojan 5 місяців тому

    12 steps to turn your nato into a regular strap and completely lose the main functionality (extra security) of the NATO. Interesting strategy, Cotton.

  • @vipnetworker
    @vipnetworker 3 місяці тому

    Or get a Zulu strap?
    Or, I cut off the extra fabric on mine, essentially making them a Zulu strap.

  • @Comotellamas131
    @Comotellamas131 6 місяців тому +1

    Or you could just wear the watch on a bracelet. Or buy a single pass nato strap. Putting a watch on should be something easy you don’t have to think about. This would get old after 3 days

    • @skipinkoreaable
      @skipinkoreaable 6 місяців тому +1

      This is a valid comment and I appreciate your perspective, but regular Nato straps didn't get old after 3 days.

  • @rayng4336
    @rayng4336 6 місяців тому +2

    It's too complicated!

  • @80amnesia
    @80amnesia 6 місяців тому

    Wtf ... Never thought about it

  • @hotelbravo9528
    @hotelbravo9528 6 місяців тому

    That negates the point of the nato straps ability to keep the watch attached to you if a pin pops….

  • @kalekhalili8130
    @kalekhalili8130 6 місяців тому

    NATO straps look good for some. It’s not me but that’s okay. I can still appreciate them on someone else’s wrist

  • @BrooklynGMT
    @BrooklynGMT 6 місяців тому

    Pass

  • @arnaldorodrigues5556
    @arnaldorodrigues5556 6 місяців тому

    My problem with NATOs is not the double layer between the watch and my skin, but that fold that is made on the side with the excess strap. I think it looks very bulky and ugly.

    • @gergoratku7341
      @gergoratku7341 5 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/8VxB4AXzy5k/v-deo.htmlsi=thqTiCYmu8Zd9igA

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 Місяць тому

      Don't get a NATO strap then.
      Problem solved.

  • @edrader
    @edrader 6 місяців тому

    but a pull through nylon strap from mara-tac or marathon

  • @jeremydahm2124
    @jeremydahm2124 5 місяців тому

    still bulky. The nato straps themselves look great. The watch itself looks great. Together they look shoddy. Single pass perlon or chevron styles look great though.

  • @gunplaojisan7557
    @gunplaojisan7557 26 днів тому

    get the ZULU strap. it's like the NATO strap but in two pieces just like normal strap. 😁

  • @KcSwinson
    @KcSwinson 6 місяців тому

    Can we get a more detailed vid on this

  • @lukeblankenship8424
    @lukeblankenship8424 5 місяців тому

    There’s literally no reason to run double strap under the case lol

  • @thetruthonlyone
    @thetruthonlyone 5 місяців тому

    More of a headache.

  • @diabymo
    @diabymo 6 місяців тому +1

    Why so much effort only to wear a watch on the wrist ?

  • @Canteaus
    @Canteaus 5 місяців тому

    Why dont you just use a single layer zulu strap?

  • @joeshmo-rz7jq
    @joeshmo-rz7jq 6 місяців тому +1

    Solving a problem nobody ever had.

  • @leonardocozza3140
    @leonardocozza3140 Місяць тому

    There ar plenty of 2 pieces nato straps on the market

  • @ivan363
    @ivan363 5 місяців тому +2

    🌈 guys be like….

  • @mavx4
    @mavx4 6 місяців тому +2

    Or you can get a Zulu strap....

  • @TexasThunder.338
    @TexasThunder.338 6 місяців тому

    That’s a Zulu. Not a fan of the oversized keepers. Single pass NATO straps exist. Easy day.

  • @dinhtran-ld4hz
    @dinhtran-ld4hz 6 днів тому

    how about just no

  • @elgar6743
    @elgar6743 5 місяців тому +1

    Hmmm...no longer secure and looks juvenile. FAIL.

  • @timedwards8171
    @timedwards8171 5 місяців тому

    Is this a redesign

  • @GDLOTKIDOG
    @GDLOTKIDOG 5 місяців тому

    Nope. Still ha n noting folded tail:( place come again. Have a nice day. Nice short though. I just have huge issue with extra dangling straps.

  • @lostammo9026
    @lostammo9026 5 місяців тому

    Just wear it normally guys

  • @peteglanton9259
    @peteglanton9259 5 місяців тому

    Or just use a proper thin nylon nato, instead of that thick leather thing.

  • @walkerb1734
    @walkerb1734 6 місяців тому +1

    Or…..just use a perlon strap.

  • @andrewade25
    @andrewade25 6 місяців тому

    Sorry, not a fan of Nato Straps. Dresses down a watch IMO. Kinda like putting wagon wheels on a Mercedes. I’d rather have a premium rubber strap.

  • @tomthackston1442
    @tomthackston1442 6 місяців тому

    Well comon tie my shoe.

  • @JCDofNYC
    @JCDofNYC 5 місяців тому

    Still looks like crap. I hate the folded over strap on the far side of the watch. It just looks like extra and unnecessary material. The NATO strap just looks like a one size fits all, overlong strap.
    I cut 'em and burn 'em.

  • @lars1321
    @lars1321 5 місяців тому

    "tuck the extra material in on the back"? Then you've got some bulky shit on the outside of your wrist. Lame.

  • @OhShunz
    @OhShunz 5 місяців тому

    People hate NATO straps???

  • @davidmichael3189
    @davidmichael3189 6 місяців тому

    What's Naydo

  • @erikig
    @erikig 6 місяців тому

    Why is it called NATO?

  • @alexhundos2621
    @alexhundos2621 6 місяців тому

    Or just cut the underkeeper and do it single pass lol.