My rule of thumb is to just replace bilge pumps whenever I'm working on them. They're cheap enough. Also, build a little platform and install a second switch and pump up slightly higher. It will stay out of the day to day bilge water, but still kick on if the primary lower one fails. To make it easy to install them, don't bother with screws. Put the primary pump in the lowest point by cleaning the area really well with acetone or such and sticking it to the bilge with 4200 or such. Same with the switch.
Here is a tip from an old boater, take bromine or chrorine small tablets and place them in the bilge and sumps to keep the switches and wiring from gumming up.
I've been wet storing my boats in Connecticut for over 30 years. Never had a problem, but I don't go check on it as much as I should in the winter. Your video reminded me I better go check.
What is wrong with those of you grumbling about Lyn. Ed and Lyn are just a normal married couple interacting the way normal people do. If you pay attention to the way people speak. This is how couples speak. Not to mention work colleagues and freinds, etc.
Maybe you guys with the negative remarks should go else where. It serves no purpose and reveals your immaturity. These are normal people trying to make a informative video for those of us who may be having similar issues with our boats. Their style and technique of making these videos will improve.
@@flyingdog1498 really shows how much of a useless piece of crap you are to society. Judging a couple based on how they look. You seem a bit jealous of them...
That video made me anxious. All that ice, water in the bilge, heating issues, and Ed standing on the ice!!! Our boat is north of Boston and I've never considered having it in the water all winter long. It would freak me out! Not to mention those slippery docks and the possibility of falling in! Wow. I hope you go on the hard from here on out guys! Love the videos though. You're both great.
Actually, we never put it on the hard. That was an unusual winter where we had a number of zero degree days in a row. The marinas in Philly almost never freeze over. Plus the dockmaster improperly installed the bubbler. We heat the boat and use it all winter.
Trying Not To Sink impressive Ed. I’m a bit further north and our small River routinely freezes over. It’s not exactly a good situation for us here so most boats are on the hard every winter. Our boat is only a day cruiser and not conducive to the kind of living that you guys do. Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
Good video guys. Ignore the peeps with nothing to do but input had comments. Its been 19 degrees down here on the Gulf Coast. We have very rare ice but nothing like you. Several years back I was on the C&D channel. It frozen over. When the tide dropped the ice sheet would stay suspended with an air space over the water. It was really cool but bad for boats. Hang in there. We are getting ready to start putting up posts of our restoration. Good luck with ice
Thanks. We are glad you enjoyed the videos. I try to ignore the trolls. Responding just encourages them. Hopefully the ice is gone for the season. That could spell was something else.
I live in a 42 5th wheel Travel Trailer. Even though I don't float, I still have issues of leaks of various kinds. With this last freeze I discovered just how cold leaky this box is. I had the gas furnace and 3 oil bath heaters running. It's irritating how the industry that builds these things don't use the amperage in a way that gives more receptacles and more wattage to run appliances. I have similar problems of getting at control devices. I have insulation on my water hose. Trailer life and boat life have a lot in common I find.
tip when the weather is cold you can prevent the freezing of the water around it from freezing by using bubbles and an air compressor the water will not freeze i learned this when living in Michigan i had a 65 foot Ed Monk boat. it works i used sprinkler housed and made a manifold using PVC in the 1970s
Bubblers are available at some marinas, but there usually isn't that much ice in the river to warrant a purchase. It takes divers and a lot of money to buy them, and if it's only used once every few years, it isn't always worth it.
Hi Ed and Lynn, I meet you both at Neshaminy State marina around 3 to 4 years ago. I had the 3807 Carver, 2 slips down from you. Len is my name. I am in pier 12 right down the road from you guys. Good luck with your new boat!! Looks awesome!! All the slips around here need dredging. Its getting worst every year. I have a trick for you to heat your boat in the winter time without using electric heaters. I use my Ac/Heat units to heat my boat. Was 3 degrees out and 74 inside. Alls I did was put a Home Depot small hot water heater in line and closed the system for the winter. Very easy to do. Did it to friends boats here too. Hope you remember me Take Care Len
Hi Len, We liked staying at Neshaminy marina, but they could not take a boat over 50 feet. We are at Pier 5. The people are nice and the location is good, but they have dredging issues as well, and electrical system is in bad need of an update. We are looking forward to getting back to Penns' Landing Marina later in the summer, after our next long cruise. That sounds like a very interesting solution for the heating. I would like to talk to you about it some time. We are at the boat most weekends, maybe we could get together for a couple drinks and you can explain it to me.
I always said that if i own another 36 or more of boat, i would definatley purchase a P150 fire pump\ de-water. put in outdoor pvc pipe, 1.5inch to 2.5 running from the bilges that i can't get too and where there are pumps. Run them up to the top then out back into a 6 valve assembly attached to the pump. you get the idea. I was in the navy for 10 yrs station on small minesweepers, and we always had one.
there is a maritime Shoppe not far from penns landing. on Delaware ave. that sells switch's that can be used too cut off power on any of the systems lines. you can also use heat tape around the lines too help keep them free flowing.
If you left one boat in the south for the winter you'd have a place to fly down for quick weekends but I think you like doing the trip each year. I grew up on Long Island and boaters there had these little pumps (just a waterproof motor with a propellor on the end) that was suspended under the boat and kept the water moving so the boat didn't freeze in, of course you need enough water under the boat at low tide to fit the pump. Bigger boats needed more than one. I thought Philly was a tidal estuary on the Delaware, is the water salty or brackish there?
My 43 Hatteras had a shower sump below the V berth. I replaced several floats switches over 6 years. I cleaned the shower sump out with just a little clorox. It killed the float switch the next day. I thought it was a fluke. Cleaned the aft sump, and same thing. I test my bilges frequently because I'm paranoid now. The hatteras should have a pretty nice keel to rest on in the mud or bottom. I cant imagine the shafts binding up to let water through the stuffing boxes. The shaft struts are huge. So the boxes just leak that much? Tighten those suckers up. That much cold weather is more than i can take. Hope things improve for you.
The Hatteras did just fine, it was the Carver that let a little water in. It turned out to not be very much after all. The boat was tilted due to the mud in the stern so all the bilge water ran up to a small section in the bow. It only took a few minutes to empty. It hasn't happened since. It may have just been a slow accumulation over several months.
A real shame you are getting all that winter hastle. Maby think about keeping her further south next winter or out on hard standing. We keep our old Princess 32 on hard standing during the winter up here in the north west of Scotland. The wife and I realy enjoy your video's. All the best for the rest of the winter and Keep on boating the two of you!!!!!
We kept our Carver 355 on the hard the past two winters but thought we would give it a try on the water this year. Mostly because we enjoy downtown Philadelphia and liked the idea of having an apartment in the city. We are glad you enjoy the videos!
Pump redundancy in all bilge compartments is a must and test once a year. Pumps can't pump if there's frozen standing water in the outlet hose. Man, I'd sure like to know if it was the shaft locks leaking.
a little late but an amazing heater that is safe and potent is the buddy by mr. heater....get a hose and a bulk tank and never ever be cold again! have two on my 55 trawler
I hate those bilge pump switches. I’ve had them outright fail and one that ran pump at 50 percent power continuously. The solid states ones work well and the Johnson Electromagnetic also is a great alternative.
ive lived abord for three years in downtown toronto canada. the winters are just as cold here as they ever will be in philadelphia... first off its super important that you totally shrink wrap or have a custom tarp system made to cover your boat . the damage that is created from ice and snow can be quite significant. ice works like hydraulics, when it freezes it expands, when it expands it has a tendancy to break exsisting seals, crack the gelcoat and creat many problems later on down the road. for a boat the size of your hatterus a diesel furnace is the only way to go. the amount of damage you have allready created would of probally been a hugh portion of the price of the new heating system. also if your not living aboord full time it seems ridiclous to me to keep your boat in the water and spend all that time and energy maintaining your boat...
It is just not practical for us to shrink wrap the boats. We keep both heated all winter, and we usually only get snow about three times a year. None of the boats in our marina get wrapped since they are live aboards, either full time or part time, like us.So far we have seen no damage to either boat
I don't keep the interior of the boat warm. I use dehumidifier to keep it dry and let the temp fall. A bar heater in the engine room block up the air vents put a blanket over the engine for extra protection. Rgs
I'm surprised that this Marina doesn't have the bubblerized system under the slips,or @ least I'd think they'd offer it in a few slips, for those that don't know what I'm talking about,it's lines/tubing down deep enough that it's not going to be hit,even have flexible tubing now I believe,and they have an air compressor,(usually in a separate sound proof building) and the air bubbles keep the water from freezing,the marina/Or I believe some are thermostic controlled nowadays making bubbles constantly keeping the ice from forming around your Craft, I'm from Indiana, but have a Craft in TN, and they have it or offer it at both places. I'm sure your slip lease is quite steep,(watched your video earlier) & it's not even under cover. Which wasn't so good for alot of Cumberland boaters a few years back,it was by actually a tragedy at several Marina's, a late winter ice storm came and the covered slips couldn't withstand the weight. You can view it on UA-cam 😉
The marina had a couple of water agitators but they were not correctly installed, so they did not do a good job. We had one by the Hatteras, which helped, but the Carver was a struggle. Unfortunately, it was an unusually cold winter. These past two years were not a problem at all. We did not even get any ice at all this winter.
Many boaters use those heaters. We considered it but it would require us to route ducts throughout the boat to circulate the heat and also to exhaust outside of boat.It is certainly doable, but for this year, we are trying a couple of 220 volt heaters (lower amperage), one on each floor and a couple regular space heaters as needed. It only gets really cold here for a few weeks and since we do not live aboard, the extra electric is not really an issue.
Float switches!!!!! Aarrrgghhh. I was forever cleaning the float switch in my grey water tank. I have a different type now which is fine with a clean a couple of times a year.
Hey 2 things on the cold and boating i learned over the years one is Home Depot sells a foil like insulation that has air bubbles i n it its very inexpensive and i used to cut it to go gover all my windows and hatches etc it created a great thermal insulation for winter and summer time extreme temperature changes It is stiff enough to kind of friction fit into window frames and hatch frames and will usually stay in place with no mechanical fasteners it worked great for keeping heat and ac inside the living area of several of my boats over the years and 2 you should check your marina and insurance policies on Space heaters as i found out they were not legal in most of the places i docked so if any type of a problem arose i was not covered and could be held responsible for any damage done to the marina or other boats ? I know we still need to do what it takes as i did take chances personally and had always been lucky I’m sure you guys have figured this out on your own many times marinas electric systems have their own ghosts and present their own challenges due to their Many repairs and voltage Changes I was in one place years ago that in order to run our air conditioning we had to run generators at the dock as we found out the marina needed to purchase a transformer from the power company and didn’t want to spend the money over the years we utilized other marinas In the same area that had done the upgrades to provide Better service The old place we even tried to work with each other in our slips by doing the ok neighbor try running your air conditioning when i shut mine down etc which becomes a hassle when you are all basically paying the same for your slip rental per the foot of your boats my observation had always been that marinas and the harsh environment is very hard on electrical circuits and numerous repairs need to be made throughout the years one time I actually went Under a dock on a float and witnessed many “taped” together repairs and patch jobs including a extension cord Tied from one dock to another Lol Talk about illegal
Our current marina has much the same problems. The electrical system is pieced together. They are making repairs, and rumour is that they will be installing a new system for next year. We will only be here for another 2 months and then gone for the rest of the year. If the repairs are not made by next year we will need to find a new winter slip. I have used the foil insulation. It does work well.
I live in upstate New York I take my boat 42 trawler to Cape Fear Boat Works for the winter in Navassa North Carolina on the cCape Fear River, $300 a month.
I am so sorry this happened, I just started watching and am enjoying your videos. Folks, providing polite feedback is grand but some of the comments on here show your lack of education. They are not reading from a script and when they catch themselves speaking over the other they stop. Let us be supportive and uplifting, do you really think they are concerned about the occasional talk over when their boats are sitting on mud in 0°? I hope that in the end the damage wasn't terrible. Would insurance cover any damages like they would with a stationary home?
Fortunately, there was no damage at all. The ground was mud and, other than tilting the boat forward, and causing the bilge water to run to the bow, nothing else happened. I suppose it would have been covered by insurance if anything had broken.
Here's a tip on frozen water around your boat. Rent a couple of those vibrators that they use to make concrete settle, and let them sit in the water and vibrate, and the water won't freeze. :)
I have two questions; can you take your boar out of the marina when it's iced over like in this video, or are you trapped? And, since the ice expands as it freezes, will this crush the hull?
We are definitely stuck when it freezes over like this. I do not think it will crush the boat, I think it will push it out of the water. I hope to never find out.
I USED TO OWN MARINA IN WESTCHESTER NEW YORK WITH 160 BOAT IN THE WATER IN THE WINTER BUT I INSTALLED A BUBBLE SYSTEM BETWEEN 2 BOAT AND THEY NEVER GOT FROZEN IN HE WATER WE HAD 2 LIKE YOURSAND ALSO A 68 BERTRAM MOTOR YEACHT
Wow Ed i really feel sorry for you dealing with all this. I hope there is no major damage when everything thaws out. I know it's gotta be tough dealing with all these problems and starting off your busiest time at work. I didn't realize you still had the carver does your son use it any? Please try to keep us updated I know it may be hard to during tax season wish you the best. Enjoyed the scenery at the end of the video. Have a great day and God Bles
It is just the life of a boat owner! We plan to post a few more videos over the winter, from saved footage during the Fall. My children use the boat as a place to crash in the city, but none of them actually drive the boats.
That didn't look like a fun experience. Weather is something you have to deal with and work around. In the water or up on the dirt, winter makes demands and it is definitely a learning experience.
I had a 40' Columba, that was always having issues, I was in Cinnaminson 'NJ. the dock agent told me that I have a crack in the bolus below the heel plate. I had too pay sixteen hundred to find out that the so called crack, was a natural joint line, where the metal, met the fiberglass. it was not leeching, from there any way. some one salt, told me to check the inlet of the bulge, I did, the screen was fouled with old diesel, and mud. the 1and 3/4 line only was open less then a half inch when pumping. when it over stressed the bulge and blew it out twice blew out my electric fuses. then I almost lost the boat too water filling the lower cabin. hell I had twelve inches of water. I had to get the outer dirty water pump to drain it out. that old guy told me that I would have too replace the pump, and clean out the leeching holes with a pressure washer. it took me three weeks to find that of the sixty leech holes better then 3/4 were closed off. the bulge had been replaced, and at five hundred a trip, gets a bit much. over that time line, that old man was a consent visitor to my slip. here I found out that he was the original owner. and knew that boat better then anyone. when I bought it, the bank had foreclosed on his last years loan. 1500 dollars that he owned, after never missing on the seventy thousand dollar loan. he had been stranded there, for over two years. trying too fight the bank in court, when I bought the boat at auction for 25 grand. here the bank pulled some shady shit, and stole that mans life. while that was going on, I allowed pop garner free rain to live on the boat. that he would be there free of cost. it took my lawyers a year to sue the bank, and the manager ,for my loss's I recovered, my twenty five grand, plus the costs to repair the boat. I had the whole boat refitted with new everything. it costs the bank ,two hundred grand in the end. I signed the boat over too pop, for fifty bucks. witch I paid to transfer ownership back to him. I laughed my ass off, that next weekend. sitting at the slip drinking a beer with pop. here the manger of that bank also held loads on the boat yard, and the land around it. hoping to cash in on the development around the area. the judge that heard my case, ordered a federal investigation in to American bank. in the end that judge gave old pop the ownership of the yard, as his companion for them stealing his boat. pop told me about the letter from the federal judge awarding him we toasted his luck. over the next ten years pop lived on that boat, never had a back up, or a leak. never had an issue with the bulge. we would get together a few days a month. we sailed that boat south around the gulf, and back to jersey. never had so much as a pisser issue. before pop died, he wanted to give me back the boat. I told him hell no way. I told him to give all his shit too his daughter, and let her deal with the mess. I got too enjoy many good years with a good friend. but I should of took the boat. and sold it too any one who wanted it. the daughter sold it and the yard's land for ten million. now the next time you take a trip north, look for the island in the middle of the river, that and the boat yard just inside that inlet was pops land. you see that developer wanted too put in a casino on that little island, as it is on the jersey side, when they first opened gaming to jersey. but maybe I did the right thing, and walked away. as every one that owned that boat has had issues with it. if you ever see a Columba with the name broken dream. stay clear as any one that has owned that boat after pop died, has died shortly afterwards. four owners, four die guys.the last I saw that boat was ten years ago, as I moved south, gave up the dream of a life on the water. now I sit here thinking back ,I did make the right move.so with that rant over, best of luck with that dog leg you got. just check out the bulge inlets and leeching holes. then look into upgrading your electric wiring.
Ohh myyy... #%&@ winter! My wife, while on one of her regular northern trips was delayed returning home in Lewes De. by 8" of snow. Meanwhile we've just endured 3 nights in a row of 25 degree temps down here (it only stays subfreezing for a few hours though) I only hope it hasn't killed my poinsettias and orange tree. I DID have the Bayliner out last week- we were all wearin' sweatshirts and long pants though- felt kinda weird. All jocularity aside, I bet you wish you'd hauled the Carver, it seems at this point that just the big boat is more than enough to tend to. Off the topic of boating, but I quit buying Progresso Clam chowder about a year ago when I noticed that the potato/clam ratio had dipped to INSULTING levels- as Yves Smith would say "it's been crapified". No matter- if ya take me up on my offer of lunch while yer down here I'll take you to a place in Dunnellon called the Blue Gator- absolutely the best soup I've ever had ever. Spring's comin'.... rx
searched on google earth.that boat behind u is interesting.In 1921, the ship carried the remains of World War I's Unknown Soldier from France to Washington, D.C., where his body was interred in Arlington National Cemetery. Olympia was decommissioned for the last time in December 1922 and placed in reserve.
As far as where the water came from, you might want to checked the water inlets that are below the waterline. Sometimes in freezing conditions these will crack and allow water intrusion.
It turned out to only be about 15 gallons, concentrated in a very small front bilge. We have not found the leak but suspect the shaft seal packings. We are keeping an eye on it.
hopefully you’ll get it figured out soon. If it is the shaft seals you might try to tighten the stuffing box or do a quick repack. Kinda sucks with you being in ice water, literally. Good luck with everything. I just started following you guys. Love your channel.
Clearly you folks are not compaliners. However the situation with the cold and the issues on your video especialy the water on the floor was very bad and I felt for you.
do you have any trouble with excess condensation? a fellow vblogger is currently having a lot of trouble with condensation and mold , they are in new England I think. cheers warren
No, not really. We had some condensation on the windows in the Hatteras, but we were running a kerosene heater at the time and there was a big change in temperature.
JMP.T28B oh yeah, try and ignore that Darth Vader person, I've.seen them in here before and their comments are always negative...you two are a great team, I guess Darth hasn't figured out they don't have to watch....congrats on the Eagles going to the Superbowl
We typically do winterize. We just thought we would give it a shot in the water this year, so we only winterized the engines and not the water supplies and heads.
Everything turned out fine.There was less water in the bilge than it looked, no pipes broke except the windshield wiper and we worked out the heat situation.
This is exactly why even as a liveaboard I winterize everything except for the freshwater system and I have the boat tented with clear shrinkwrap providing a greenhouse effect. You may want to consider this as well. I’m in the Chesapeake Bay. I’ve been told that the heat pumps will not be effective near a water temperature of 40 degrees and I’m told you can actually ruin your reverse cycle system running them in too low of a water temperature. I’ve gotten in the habit of wintering them at a water temperature of 45 degrees and switching to electric heat or my Diesel furnace. You may want to consider the latter for your Hatteras. I’m curious on both of your boats, did you close the Sea cocks? If not that’s probably the sources of the water in the Carver. Many times Boats that sink in winter months or take on that much water are the result of engine hoses that split and with the cocks open, water pours in. Good luck, it sure was a rough winter thus far!
Thanks for the advice on the AC units. Yes, we close the sea cocks on the engines, but not the AC units since we were trying to use them. This is our first year on the water in the winter and it has been a learning experience!
Ya I couldn't help but laugh. I'm sure by now you know how to prep the boat for winter. Winters on a boat is tuff just trying to keep water flowing is hard both on and off , lines and drains freeze. The plastic on the windows will also keep the condensation down on the inside of the boat. Also electric heat cable works good on the water lines. Another trick is those propane heat buddy's when you are on board they heat the boat up nice. After 18 years living on a boat you learn all the tricks for the winter.
Yes. That was our first winter on the water, and it was the coldest in years. We learned a lot. But, the last few years have been mild, so it was much easier.
sry about that I was aiming for a friend in Michigan, weather just left us...0-15 below..wind chills 20-35 below for 2 1/2 damn weeks... way too damn cold
We do not even have it listed right now. It is for sale for $50k but we are currently using it as a condo in the city. If we do not sell it we will rent it out to one of my children.
Great videos a learning experience! That ice a snow on top of your vessels is the worst thing there is for them! All the core that's wet inside the vessel will freeze and crack your gel coat everywhere take it from a Michigander and a Surveyor.
That would be nice. It would also be nice if we had more than 4 feet at low tide at this marina! Or if they understood how to install bubbler. I think that winter was a bit of a fluke though. We have not had any ice at all in the past two years.
Get rid of the Rule float switch NOW ! I can't stand the things $45.00 of junk ! I replaced my Engine room one with a magnetic type I'll find the name of it Monday when I'm on the boat... Please follow up on what let the water in.. Lower tides were felt all up the east coast due the low pressure system "Arctic bomb" and a super moon happening at the same time..
It turned out to only be about 15 gallons of water. Since the boat was tilted forward, all the water ran into that small front bilge area. We have not found anything leaking so we assume it must have been from the shaft seals. They are the kind that need to be repacked every now and again. They are not leaking now, but we are keeping an eye on them.
You are correct. Shaft seals and rudder seals need tightening on occasion. Mine have only trickled, but once I tighten them, usually one turn on the nut, no problem. Defever 44.
I was reading through the comments below and noticed that nobody mentioned why you don't have bubblers around the boats to keep the water moving. Anyone that is brave enough to sit in the water in Toronto during the winter use this method to keep the water from freezing to the hull sides.
Hi Ed and Lyn, I have truly enjoyed your videos. I've watched every one. I think. Your trip from Miami to Philly was something I have wanted to do for a long time. I only wish you could have shown more of the pulling into port and docking maneuvers. As a novice myself I wonder how procuring a dock space happens. Do you call ahead? Radio the marina? Anyway, thanks for making these. I enjoyed them very much.
Really wish you both the best. Disappointed you don’t seem to have a clue as to the reason this is going on. I love all yachties, but unfortunately our cousins with sailboats will look at this like “here we go again...those dumb yachties with powerboats”. It’s sad & unfortunate that all of us that love the water cannot bond, but doesn’t seem to happen. My main message to you both, because I love your channel, is to make sure you don’t put out videos like the one I just watched. It makes us all look like we don’t know what the hell we are doing. With that said, you guys tell it like it is, and are REAL & totally appreciate that!!!
We do not have a clue about a lot of things, this is only our 3rd year owning a boat and our first winter in the water. That is one reason why we make the videos, to help newbies like us learn, and show them that they are not alone. Who new 7 foot at low tide in November could turn into 1 foot in January. Not us! Apparently the combination of lunar cycle, cyclone off the coast and an ice dam up river, caused record low tides in our marina. Inadequate dredging didn't help. I felt bad for the sail boaters in my marina. Their bigger draft made the low waters much worse.
Your comment is critical, without giving any reasons other than being, critical of their knowledge. I see these people expanding their minds, and baring their egos along the way. Good on them! BTW, motor and sail each have separate problems. Apple's and oranges!
I will definitely have on for next season. The marina told me they would have it covered with their ice eaters, but the cold overwhelmed what they had in place.
I am watching this with our heater turned up. 53 was the low. 59 as a high today. Local news weathermen talked about covering plants. I wore 2 jackets and gloves. My son's baseball team played today during this severe AZ winter warning. We used heaters to warm their bats. As you eat from a can of soup from a frozen boat, we have kids that are afraid their baseball bats might get below 72 degrees and have less 1.15 bpf pop! These are my AZ problems as the polar caps melt. As always, love your sea adventures from the AZ desert! ua-cam.com/video/o4-EGabfVo4/v-deo.html
Hey Ed, I was wondering if that Annapolis sweatshirt is your favorite or the only sweatshirt you have...lol you were wearing it in the first couple of segments (over a few days).
Ha Ha. It is the only one I had on the boat! We only kept a few things there for the winter and never anticipated spending so much time there without going back home. At least you did not notice that I was wearing the same socks and underwear! :-)
listen folks....fly me in...i will move both ur boats to the carribean ...you fly down and hook up with me..i will stay on smaller boat while you party on the larger one..when you go home i will transform your large boat into a floating den of iniquity and we split profits 50/50 ...sounds good, eh? get back to me.
We usually try a little harder to produce a good video, but we were so wrecked from what we were going through we just filmed it by throwing a smart phone on a counter. No hair brush, no makeup!
I can understand being tired and all...but these cellphone microphones amplify the soft sounds into annoying background interference. Happens every time some one calls me from a car or a "quiet" office.
Ed is a good speaker [and knowledgeable] but he does tend to take the lion's share of the conversation. Lyn is a co-owner and would like to participate in the video so she has to jump in.
I can get talkative. :-) When it comes to the technical videos I tend to do most of the talking. Lyn does most of the talking on our destination videos. I think it speaks to how our minds work. She speaks of the beauty of the rose, I am the guy who won't shut up about cultivation.
Please Note: YOU Both interrupt each other's conversation so much. Please allow each other to talk individually. Give your mind a break... to listen... and then respond at an appropriate time. AND the other person should refrain from speaking. YOU BOTH interrupt each other so often, and interject useless comments. Please respect each other MORE!
What you are watching is not a scripted tv show, or planned in anyway. It is just us reacting, in real time, to the stress of the situation. However, we agree with your criticism, we do tend to step on each other and are trying to refrain.
I can no longer watch the videos due to her constant yammering. In spite of the fact I love his boat and am looking for a similar one to purchase. As a disabled veteran I have give up on a sailboat or motor sailor. I am limited in the use of my right arm. Being him I would gladly spend anything to never her that whining voice again.
On top of all the negative comments, take it from someone who has experience with below freezing temps and boats. Get yourself 4 bubblers and put one on each corner at the stern and the other two up near the bow. You DO NOT want your boat frozen in. The ice will crush it.
I plan to do that next year. We were fortunate that my dock neighbor had an ice eater between our boats so it was only one side, the dock side, that was getting frozen. And I kept that broken up manually. It was different on the small er boat. I could not keep up with the ice.
Good video Ed and Lyn. Thanks for showing us what happens to the cold
Fortunately, it has not been nearly that cold in Philly these past two years. No ice at all this year and only a very light snow back in December.
My rule of thumb is to just replace bilge pumps whenever I'm working on them. They're cheap enough. Also, build a little platform and install a second switch and pump up slightly higher. It will stay out of the day to day bilge water, but still kick on if the primary lower one fails. To make it easy to install them, don't bother with screws. Put the primary pump in the lowest point by cleaning the area really well with acetone or such and sticking it to the bilge with 4200 or such. Same with the switch.
Andrew Mackle good advice. Thanks.
Here is a tip from an old boater, take bromine or chrorine small tablets and place them in the bilge and sumps to keep the switches and wiring from gumming up.
The negative people have never been married.
Your son saved the day.
God Bless and Go Well.
I've been wet storing my boats in Connecticut for over 30 years. Never had a problem, but I don't go check on it as much as I should in the winter. Your video reminded me I better go check.
So far this winter has been mild. Keeping our fingers crossed!
What is wrong with those of you grumbling about Lyn. Ed and Lyn are just a normal married couple interacting the way normal people do. If you pay attention to the way people speak. This is how couples speak. Not to mention work colleagues and freinds, etc.
Maybe you guys with the negative remarks should go else where. It serves no purpose and reveals your immaturity. These are normal people trying to make a informative video for those of us who may be having similar issues with our boats. Their style and technique of making these videos will improve.
You should just kiss my ass. Damn them is some Ugly people.
@@flyingdog1498 Illustrate his point perfectly. By the way, your momma...
@@heatmoon Your mama is so Ugly....
@@flyingdog1498 really shows how much of a useless piece of crap you are to society. Judging a couple based on how they look. You seem a bit jealous of them...
That video made me anxious. All that ice, water in the bilge, heating issues, and Ed standing on the ice!!! Our boat is north of Boston and I've never considered having it in the water all winter long. It would freak me out! Not to mention those slippery docks and the possibility of falling in! Wow. I hope you go on the hard from here on out guys! Love the videos though. You're both great.
Actually, we never put it on the hard. That was an unusual winter where we had a number of zero degree days in a row. The marinas in Philly almost never freeze over. Plus the dockmaster improperly installed the bubbler. We heat the boat and use it all winter.
Trying Not To Sink impressive Ed. I’m a bit further north and our small River routinely freezes over. It’s not exactly a good situation for us here so most boats are on the hard every winter. Our boat is only a day cruiser and not conducive to the kind of living that you guys do. Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
Good video guys. Ignore the peeps with nothing to do but input had comments. Its been 19 degrees down here on the Gulf Coast. We have very rare ice but nothing like you. Several years back I was on the C&D channel. It frozen over. When the tide dropped the ice sheet would stay suspended with an air space over the water. It was really cool but bad for boats. Hang in there. We are getting ready to start putting up posts of our restoration. Good luck with ice
Thanks. We are glad you enjoyed the videos. I try to ignore the trolls. Responding just encourages them. Hopefully the ice is gone for the season. That could spell was something else.
Good video. You handled the problems very good. Mighty cold up there we had some temps in the 20's down here in Georgia early January. Thanks
We hit 81 degrees today. Spring is finally here!
I live in a 42 5th wheel Travel Trailer. Even though I don't float, I still have issues of leaks of various kinds. With this last freeze I discovered just how cold leaky this box is. I had the gas furnace and 3 oil bath heaters running. It's irritating how the industry that builds these things don't use the amperage in a way that gives more receptacles and more wattage to run appliances. I have similar problems of getting at control devices. I have insulation on my water hose. Trailer life and boat life have a lot in common I find.
We eventually gave up and bought a kerosene heater for the really cold days.
Train ducks to keep swimming around the boat. That should keep the ice ring from forming. Thanks for your videos. You folks are great!😁
Good idea. Lyn has two ducks at home already. She loves duck eggs!
@@tryingnottosink9107 If no eggs produced......Duck soup.
tip when the weather is cold you can prevent the freezing of the water around it from freezing by using bubbles and an air compressor the water will not freeze i learned this when living in Michigan i had a 65 foot Ed Monk boat. it works i used sprinkler housed and made a manifold using PVC in the 1970s
I have heard that before but I have never seen it done. I'll have to look into it.
Bubblers are available at some marinas, but there usually isn't that much ice in the river to warrant a purchase. It takes divers and a lot of money to buy them, and if it's only used once every few years, it isn't always worth it.
I am digging all of your videos👍👍👍👍. I am down here in Baltimore Maryland .. that was a scary situation you have going on in this video
Hopefully, it was a fluke. Last winter was much milder.
Hi Ed and Lynn, I meet you both at Neshaminy State marina around 3 to 4 years ago. I had the 3807 Carver, 2 slips down from you. Len is my name. I am in pier 12 right down the road from you guys. Good luck with your new boat!! Looks awesome!! All the slips around here need dredging. Its getting worst every year. I have a trick for you to heat your boat in the winter time without using electric heaters. I use my Ac/Heat units to heat my boat. Was 3 degrees out and 74 inside. Alls I did was put a Home Depot small hot water heater in line and closed the system for the winter. Very easy to do. Did it to friends boats here too.
Hope you remember me
Take Care Len
Hi Len, We liked staying at Neshaminy marina, but they could not take a boat over 50 feet. We are at Pier 5. The people are nice and the location is good, but they have dredging issues as well, and electrical system is in bad need of an update.
We are looking forward to getting back to Penns' Landing Marina later in the summer, after our next long cruise.
That sounds like a very interesting solution for the heating. I would like to talk to you about it some time. We are at the boat most weekends, maybe we could get together for a couple drinks and you can explain it to me.
We've been considering that exact same solution.
I always said that if i own another 36 or more of boat, i would definatley purchase a P150 fire pump\ de-water. put in outdoor pvc pipe, 1.5inch to 2.5 running from the bilges that i can't get too and where there are pumps. Run them up to the top then out back into a 6 valve assembly attached to the pump. you get the idea. I was in the navy for 10 yrs station on small minesweepers, and we always had one.
check those stuffing boxes when it thaws its nomore than hemp rope keeping water outstay warm guys ok your checking it
there is a maritime Shoppe not far from penns landing. on Delaware ave. that sells switch's that can be used too cut off power on any of the systems lines. you can also use heat tape around the lines too help keep them free flowing.
If you left one boat in the south for the winter you'd have a place to fly down for quick weekends but I think you like doing the trip each year. I grew up on Long Island and boaters there had these little pumps (just a waterproof motor with a propellor on the end) that was suspended under the boat and kept the water moving so the boat didn't freeze in, of course you need enough water under the boat at low tide to fit the pump. Bigger boats needed more than one. I thought Philly was a tidal estuary on the Delaware, is the water salty or brackish there?
They have those pumps at the marina but do not use them effectively. We have brackish waster in Philly.
My 43 Hatteras had a shower sump below the V berth. I replaced several floats switches over 6 years. I cleaned the shower sump out with just a little clorox. It killed the float switch the next day. I thought it was a fluke. Cleaned the aft sump, and same thing. I test my bilges frequently because I'm paranoid now. The hatteras should have a pretty nice keel to rest on in the mud or bottom. I cant imagine the shafts binding up to let water through the stuffing boxes. The shaft struts are huge. So the boxes just leak that much? Tighten those suckers up. That much cold weather is more than i can take. Hope things improve for you.
The Hatteras did just fine, it was the Carver that let a little water in. It turned out to not be very much after all. The boat was tilted due to the mud in the stern so all the bilge water ran up to a small section in the bow. It only took a few minutes to empty. It hasn't happened since. It may have just been a slow accumulation over several months.
A real shame you are getting all that winter hastle. Maby think about keeping her further south next winter or out on hard standing. We keep our old Princess 32 on hard standing during the winter up here in the north west of Scotland. The wife and I realy enjoy your video's. All the best for the rest of the winter and Keep on boating the two of you!!!!!
We kept our Carver 355 on the hard the past two winters but thought we would give it a try on the water this year. Mostly because we enjoy downtown Philadelphia and liked the idea of having an apartment in the city. We are glad you enjoy the videos!
Pump redundancy in all bilge compartments is a must and test once a year. Pumps can't pump if there's frozen standing water in the outlet hose. Man, I'd sure like to know if it was the shaft locks leaking.
a little late but an amazing heater that is safe and potent is the buddy by mr. heater....get a hose and a bulk tank and never ever be cold again! have two on my 55 trawler
Thanks for the advice.
I hate those bilge pump switches. I’ve had them outright fail and one that ran pump at 50 percent power continuously. The solid states ones work well and the Johnson Electromagnetic also is a great alternative.
Seems like we are always replacing one. Our forward shower pump switch is out right now.
19:34 I like the kitchen backsplash... Gonna have to consult with you when I get my boat :-D
We like it as well. It was there when we bought the boat.
ive lived abord for three years in downtown toronto canada. the winters are just as cold here as they ever will be in philadelphia... first off its super important that you totally shrink wrap or have a custom tarp system made to cover your boat . the damage that is created from ice and snow can be quite significant. ice works like hydraulics, when it freezes it expands, when it expands it has a tendancy to break exsisting seals, crack the gelcoat and creat many problems later on down the road. for a boat the size of your hatterus a diesel furnace is the only way to go. the amount of damage you have allready created would of probally been a hugh portion of the price of the new heating system. also if your not living aboord full time it seems ridiclous to me to keep your boat in the water and spend all that time and energy maintaining your boat...
It is just not practical for us to shrink wrap the boats. We keep both heated all winter, and we usually only get snow about three times a year. None of the boats in our marina get wrapped since they are live aboards, either full time or part time, like us.So far we have seen no damage to either boat
I don't keep the interior of the boat warm. I use dehumidifier to keep it dry and let the temp fall. A bar heater in the engine room block up the air vents put a blanket over the engine for extra protection.
Rgs
I'm surprised that this Marina doesn't have the bubblerized system under the slips,or @ least I'd think they'd offer it in a few slips, for those that don't know what I'm talking about,it's lines/tubing down deep enough that it's not going to be hit,even have flexible tubing now I believe,and they have an air compressor,(usually in a separate sound proof building) and the air bubbles keep the water from freezing,the marina/Or I believe some are thermostic controlled nowadays making bubbles constantly keeping the ice from forming around your Craft, I'm from Indiana, but have a Craft in TN, and they have it or offer it at both places. I'm sure your slip lease is quite steep,(watched your video earlier) & it's not even under cover. Which wasn't so good for alot of Cumberland boaters a few years back,it was by actually a tragedy at several Marina's, a late winter ice storm came and the covered slips couldn't withstand the weight. You can view it on UA-cam 😉
The marina had a couple of water agitators but they were not correctly installed, so they did not do a good job. We had one by the Hatteras, which helped, but the Carver was a struggle. Unfortunately, it was an unusually cold winter. These past two years were not a problem at all. We did not even get any ice at all this winter.
I wonder how those diesel fueled turbo heaters that are used in interstate trucks would work.
Many boaters use those heaters. We considered it but it would require us to route ducts throughout the boat to circulate the heat and also to exhaust outside of boat.It is certainly doable, but for this year, we are trying a couple of 220 volt heaters (lower amperage), one on each floor and a couple regular space heaters as needed. It only gets really cold here for a few weeks and since we do not live aboard, the extra electric is not really an issue.
Float switches!!!!! Aarrrgghhh. I was forever cleaning the float switch in my grey water tank. I have a different type now which is fine with a clean a couple of times a year.
It is amazing how dirty they can get so quickly.
space heater on the map/rug is it fireproof? i like your vids just started looking keep it up :) yes i know its a old vid.
Not sure.
Hey 2 things on the cold and boating i learned over the years one is Home Depot sells a foil like insulation that has air bubbles i n it its very inexpensive and i used to cut it to go gover all my windows and hatches etc it created a great thermal insulation for winter and summer time extreme temperature changes It is stiff enough to kind of friction fit into window frames and hatch frames and will usually stay in place with no mechanical fasteners it worked great for keeping heat and ac inside the living area of several of my boats over the years and 2 you should check your marina and insurance policies on Space heaters as i found out they were not legal in most of the places i docked so if any type of a problem arose i was not covered and could be held responsible for any damage done to the marina or other boats ? I know we still need to do what it takes as i did take chances personally and had always been lucky I’m sure you guys have figured this out on your own many times marinas electric systems have their own ghosts and present their own challenges due to their Many repairs and voltage Changes I was in one place years ago that in order to run our air conditioning we had to run generators at the dock as we found out the marina needed to purchase a transformer from the power company and didn’t want to spend the money over the years we utilized other marinas In the same area that had done the upgrades to provide Better service The old place we even tried to work with each other in our slips by doing the ok neighbor try running your air conditioning when i shut mine down etc which becomes a hassle when you are all basically paying the same for your slip rental per the foot of your boats my observation had always been that marinas and the harsh environment is very hard on electrical circuits and numerous repairs need to be made throughout the years one time I actually went Under a dock on a float and witnessed many “taped” together repairs and patch jobs including a extension cord Tied from one dock to another Lol Talk about illegal
Our current marina has much the same problems. The electrical system is pieced together. They are making repairs, and rumour is that they will be installing a new system for next year. We will only be here for another 2 months and then gone for the rest of the year. If the repairs are not made by next year we will need to find a new winter slip. I have used the foil insulation. It does work well.
Ahhh... Boats! Ya gota love'm! Don't feel bad, Same situation here in Maryland, All up and down the Chesapeake Bay! Hang in there! It will get better!
That is why the make Vodka!
I live in upstate New York I take my boat 42 trawler to Cape Fear Boat Works for the winter in Navassa North Carolina on the cCape Fear River, $300 a month.
Wow, that is a deal!
I am so sorry this happened, I just started watching and am enjoying your videos.
Folks, providing polite feedback is grand but some of the comments on here show your lack of education. They are not reading from a script and when they catch themselves speaking over the other they stop. Let us be supportive and uplifting, do you really think they are concerned about the occasional talk over when their boats are sitting on mud in 0°?
I hope that in the end the damage wasn't terrible. Would insurance cover any damages like they would with a stationary home?
Fortunately, there was no damage at all. The ground was mud and, other than tilting the boat forward, and causing the bilge water to run to the bow, nothing else happened. I suppose it would have been covered by insurance if anything had broken.
What is your lead-in song. I’ve heard it before, but never knew it’s title or the artist. Thanks! Man, I love that boat! 🤩
re low water , I sent there an ice dam stopping water come down the river? not sure how that will effect water level. cheers waren
I heard that as well, but the low water started before the ice damn happened.
I repeat: What is your lead-in song. I’ve heard it before, but never knew it’s title or the artist. Thanks! Man, I love that boat! 🤩
Budapest, by George Ezra. The intro was a live version sung by a guitarist at a marina.
Thank you. I like your version better. It is a fantastic song. Keep up the good work!
Here's a tip on frozen water around your boat. Rent a couple of those vibrators that they use to make concrete settle, and let them sit in the water and vibrate, and the water won't freeze. :)
I will look into that. Thanks.
Umm a bubbler would be simpler!
If I had known in advance that the marina's ice eaters were inadequate, I would have installed bubblers. Definitely next year.
Hope everything goes good from here on
That video was five years ago!😁
How come it says carver on the side of your yacht if it’s a hatteras
We owned two Yachts when that video was shot. One was a Carver 355.
@@tryingnottosink9107 well that explains that then lol
I have two questions; can you take your boar out of the marina when it's iced over like in this video, or are you trapped? And, since the ice expands as it freezes, will this crush the hull?
We are definitely stuck when it freezes over like this. I do not think it will crush the boat, I think it will push it out of the water. I hope to never find out.
I USED TO OWN MARINA IN WESTCHESTER NEW YORK WITH 160 BOAT IN THE WATER IN THE WINTER BUT I INSTALLED A BUBBLE SYSTEM BETWEEN 2 BOAT AND THEY NEVER GOT FROZEN IN HE WATER WE HAD 2 LIKE YOURSAND ALSO A 68 BERTRAM MOTOR YEACHT
The problem is the marina installed them at the surface instead of underwater. Fortunately, the winters have been milder since then.
CLASSY, eating from a can on a plate and a martini. Love it, LOL
We are very high maintenance!
OK,after watching this video from last year. Are you keeping your boat in the cold again this year? Thanks for the video.
Yes. We are masochists! :-) So far, it has been much better. Last week's freeze was short-lived and the water in the marina did not even freeze.
Wow Ed i really feel sorry for you dealing with all this. I hope there is no major damage when everything thaws out. I know it's gotta be tough dealing with all these problems and starting off your busiest time at work. I didn't realize you still had the carver does your son use it any? Please try to keep us updated I know it may be hard to during tax season wish you the best. Enjoyed the scenery at the end of the video. Have a great day and God Bles
It is just the life of a boat owner! We plan to post a few more videos over the winter, from saved footage during the Fall. My children use the boat as a place to crash in the city, but none of them actually drive the boats.
That didn't look like a fun experience. Weather is something you have to deal with and work around. In the water or up on the dirt, winter makes demands and it is definitely a learning experience.
It was not fun. So far, this winter is working out better.
you can use salt melt around the haul.
Last year, the marina told us we would have no problems and their agitators would be enough. This year we will not make the same mistake.
I had a 40' Columba, that was always having issues, I was in Cinnaminson 'NJ. the dock agent told me that I have a crack in the bolus below the heel plate. I had too pay sixteen hundred to find out that the so called crack, was a natural joint line, where the metal, met the fiberglass. it was not leeching, from there any way. some one salt, told me to check the inlet of the bulge, I did, the screen was fouled with old diesel, and mud. the 1and 3/4 line only was open less then a half inch when pumping. when it over stressed the bulge and blew it out twice blew out my electric fuses. then I almost lost the boat too water filling the lower cabin. hell I had twelve inches of water. I had to get the outer dirty water pump to drain it out. that old guy told me that I would have too replace the pump, and clean out the leeching holes with a pressure washer. it took me three weeks to find that of the sixty leech holes better then 3/4 were closed off. the bulge had been replaced, and at five hundred a trip, gets a bit much. over that time line, that old man was a consent visitor to my slip. here I found out that he was the original owner. and knew that boat better then anyone. when I bought it, the bank had foreclosed on his last years loan. 1500 dollars that he owned, after never missing on the seventy thousand dollar loan. he had been stranded there, for over two years. trying too fight the bank in court, when I bought the boat at auction for 25 grand. here the bank pulled some shady shit, and stole that mans life. while that was going on, I allowed pop garner free rain to live on the boat. that he would be there free of cost. it took my lawyers a year to sue the bank, and the manager ,for my loss's I recovered, my twenty five grand, plus the costs to repair the boat. I had the whole boat refitted with new everything. it costs the bank ,two hundred grand in the end. I signed the boat over too pop, for fifty bucks. witch I paid to transfer ownership back to him. I laughed my ass off, that next weekend. sitting at the slip drinking a beer with pop. here the manger of that bank also held loads on the boat yard, and the land around it. hoping to cash in on the development around the area. the judge that heard my case, ordered a federal investigation in to American bank. in the end that judge gave old pop the ownership of the yard, as his companion for them stealing his boat. pop told me about the letter from the federal judge awarding him we toasted his luck. over the next ten years pop lived on that boat, never had a back up, or a leak. never had an issue with the bulge. we would get together a few days a month. we sailed that boat south around the gulf, and back to jersey. never had so much as a pisser issue. before pop died, he wanted to give me back the boat. I told him hell no way. I told him to give all his shit too his daughter, and let her deal with the mess. I got too enjoy many good years with a good friend. but I should of took the boat. and sold it too any one who wanted it. the daughter sold it and the yard's land for ten million. now the next time you take a trip north, look for the island in the middle of the river, that and the boat yard just inside that inlet was pops land. you see that developer wanted too put in a casino on that little island, as it is on the jersey side, when they first opened gaming to jersey. but maybe I did the right thing, and walked away. as every one that owned that boat has had issues with it. if you ever see a Columba with the name broken dream. stay clear as any one that has owned that boat after pop died, has died shortly afterwards. four owners, four die guys.the last I saw that boat was ten years ago, as I moved south, gave up the dream of a life on the water. now I sit here thinking back ,I did make the right move.so with that rant over, best of luck with that dog leg you got. just check out the bulge inlets and leeching holes. then look into upgrading your electric wiring.
Ohh myyy... #%&@ winter! My wife, while on one of her regular northern trips was delayed returning home in Lewes De. by 8" of snow. Meanwhile we've just endured 3 nights in a row of 25 degree temps down here (it only stays subfreezing for a few hours though) I only hope it hasn't killed my poinsettias and orange tree. I DID have the Bayliner out last week- we were all wearin' sweatshirts and long pants though- felt kinda weird.
All jocularity aside, I bet you wish you'd hauled the Carver, it seems at this point that just the big boat is more than enough to tend to.
Off the topic of boating, but I quit buying Progresso Clam chowder about a year ago when I noticed that the potato/clam ratio had dipped to INSULTING levels- as Yves Smith would say "it's been crapified". No matter- if ya take me up on my offer of lunch while yer down here I'll take you to a place in Dunnellon called the Blue Gator- absolutely the best soup I've ever had ever.
Spring's comin'....
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searched on google earth.that boat behind u is interesting.In 1921, the ship carried the remains of World War I's Unknown Soldier from France to Washington, D.C., where his body was interred in Arlington National Cemetery. Olympia was decommissioned for the last time in December 1922 and placed in reserve.
As far as where the water came from, you might want to checked the water inlets that are below the waterline. Sometimes in freezing conditions these will crack and allow water intrusion.
It turned out to only be about 15 gallons, concentrated in a very small front bilge. We have not found the leak but suspect the shaft seal packings. We are keeping an eye on it.
hopefully you’ll get it figured out soon. If it is the shaft seals you might try to tighten the stuffing box or do a quick repack. Kinda sucks with you being in ice water, literally. Good luck with everything. I just started following you guys. Love your channel.
Clearly you folks are not compaliners. However the situation with the cold and the issues on your video especialy the water on the floor was very bad and I felt for you.
We knew what we signed up for. We own several rental properties and are somewhat used to expecting the unexpected.
does the ice cause any damage
do you have any trouble with excess condensation? a fellow vblogger is currently having a lot of trouble with condensation and mold , they are in new England I think. cheers warren
No, not really. We had some condensation on the windows in the Hatteras, but we were running a kerosene heater at the time and there was a big change in temperature.
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Your wife is awesome! End of conversation! I’d love to meet her! Hope we get a Hatty cruise together sooner or later!
Cold means more lemon drops.... or straight vodka! You two are the best peeps!
Straight vodka, although a glance at the vermouth is okay! We can't wait for next season. Heading south to the Bahamas!
Were your seacoast closed....it shouldn't take on water at all?
Sea Cock is the correct name for the valve.
JMP.T28B oh yeah, try and ignore that Darth Vader person, I've.seen them in here before and their comments are always negative...you two are a great team, I guess Darth hasn't figured out they don't have to watch....congrats on the Eagles going to the Superbowl
you have to winterize every year, its a little work but has to be done.
We typically do winterize. We just thought we would give it a shot in the water this year, so we only winterized the engines and not the water supplies and heads.
i hope everything is ok, its a good lesson for all of us. thanks for posting this valuable lesson.
Everything turned out fine.There was less water in the bilge than it looked, no pipes broke except the windshield wiper and we worked out the heat situation.
This is exactly why even as a liveaboard I winterize everything except for the freshwater system and I have the boat tented with clear shrinkwrap providing a greenhouse effect. You may want to consider this as well. I’m in the Chesapeake Bay. I’ve been told that the heat pumps will not be effective near a water temperature of 40 degrees and I’m told you can actually ruin your reverse cycle system running them in too low of a water temperature. I’ve gotten in the habit of wintering them at a water temperature of 45 degrees and switching to electric heat or my Diesel furnace. You may want to consider the latter for your Hatteras. I’m curious on both of your boats, did you close the Sea cocks? If not that’s probably the sources of the water in the Carver. Many times Boats that sink in winter months or take on that much water are the result of engine hoses that split and with the cocks open, water pours in. Good luck, it sure was a rough winter thus far!
Thanks for the advice on the AC units. Yes, we close the sea cocks on the engines, but not the AC units since we were trying to use them. This is our first year on the water in the winter and it has been a learning experience!
Ya I couldn't help but laugh. I'm sure by now you know how to prep the boat for winter. Winters on a boat is tuff just trying to keep water flowing is hard both on and off , lines and drains freeze. The plastic on the windows will also keep the condensation down on the inside of the boat. Also electric heat cable works good on the water lines. Another trick is those propane heat buddy's when you are on board they heat the boat up nice. After 18 years living on a boat you learn all the tricks for the winter.
Yes. That was our first winter on the water, and it was the coldest in years. We learned a lot. But, the last few years have been mild, so it was much easier.
sry about that I was aiming for a friend in Michigan, weather just left us...0-15 below..wind chills 20-35 below for 2 1/2 damn weeks... way too damn cold
My bother lives in Michigan and teases us about our mild weather. 😁
Are you ready to make a deal on the carver? I’ve seen it listed for quite a while...
We do not even have it listed right now. It is for sale for $50k but we are currently using it as a condo in the city. If we do not sell it we will rent it out to one of my children.
Trying Not To Sink is it not still listed on yachtworld?
If it is, they are listing it for free. I ended my contract with the yacht broker back in November.
LOL I'd of went next door to the new boat and cooked supper :P and now you know why some any people keep their boats on the gulf during the winter
Great videos a learning experience! That ice a snow on top of your vessels is the worst thing there is for them! All the core that's wet inside the vessel will freeze and crack your gel coat everywhere take it from a Michigander and a Surveyor.
Unfortunately, there is not much we can do about it since we use the boat all winter.
Four words.......water source heat pump.......get out of the shallow and drop a 20' section of SDR 21 pvc. An endless supply of heat or cooling.
That would be nice. It would also be nice if we had more than 4 feet at low tide at this marina! Or if they understood how to install bubbler. I think that winter was a bit of a fluke though. We have not had any ice at all in the past two years.
Get rid of the Rule float switch NOW ! I can't stand the things $45.00 of junk ! I replaced my Engine room one with a magnetic type I'll find the name of it Monday when I'm on the boat...
Please follow up on what let the water in..
Lower tides were felt all up the east coast due the low pressure system "Arctic bomb" and a super moon happening at the same time..
It turned out to only be about 15 gallons of water. Since the boat was tilted forward, all the water ran into that small front bilge area. We have not found anything leaking so we assume it must have been from the shaft seals. They are the kind that need to be repacked every now and again. They are not leaking now, but we are keeping an eye on them.
You are correct. Shaft seals and rudder seals need tightening on occasion. Mine have only trickled, but once I tighten them, usually one turn on the nut, no problem. Defever 44.
The last time I tightened them was almost two years ago. Now if I could only remember which one is clockwise and which one is counter clockwise. :-)
Trying Not To Sink get some bees wax in them..done it yrs
Put bees wax on the packing material?
I was reading through the comments below and noticed that nobody mentioned why you don't have bubblers around the boats to keep the water moving. Anyone that is brave enough to sit in the water in Toronto during the winter use this method to keep the water from freezing to the hull sides.
Last year, the marina told us we would have no problems and their agitators would be enough. This year we will not make the same mistake.
*My Thoughts are the same as Vetter Fellow... Pull'em out for the winter or move to a bit warmer climate for the winter!*
Hi Ed and Lyn, I have truly enjoyed your videos. I've watched every one. I think. Your trip from Miami to Philly was something I have wanted to do for a long time. I only wish you could have shown more of the pulling into port and docking maneuvers. As a novice myself I wonder how procuring a dock space happens. Do you call ahead? Radio the marina? Anyway, thanks for making these. I enjoyed them very much.
We will be showing more of the procedures in this year's videos. Glad you enjoy them.
Buy a high quality automatic bilge pump with an enclosed float switch so no trash and block it.
That is what we have on the Hatteras. Much better.
wow, what a battle!
Can't wait until spring!
Dude, it's 75 degrees right now in California. Point that sum of a bridge south and head for the canal!!!
I can't - I have to work in the winter! :-(
Really wish you both the best. Disappointed you don’t seem to have a clue as to the reason this is going on. I love all yachties, but unfortunately our cousins with sailboats will look at this like “here we go again...those dumb yachties with powerboats”. It’s sad & unfortunate that all of us that love the water cannot bond, but doesn’t seem to happen. My main message to you both, because I love your channel, is to make sure you don’t put out videos like the one I just watched. It makes us all look like we don’t know what the hell we are doing. With that said, you guys tell it like it is, and are REAL & totally appreciate that!!!
We do not have a clue about a lot of things, this is only our 3rd year owning a boat and our first winter in the water. That is one reason why we make the videos, to help newbies like us learn, and show them that they are not alone. Who new 7 foot at low tide in November could turn into 1 foot in January. Not us! Apparently the combination of lunar cycle, cyclone off the coast and an ice dam up river, caused record low tides in our marina. Inadequate dredging didn't help. I felt bad for the sail boaters in my marina. Their bigger draft made the low waters much worse.
Your comment is critical, without giving any reasons other than being, critical of their knowledge. I see these people expanding their minds, and baring their egos along the way. Good on them! BTW, motor and sail each have separate problems. Apple's and oranges!
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Dude eating out of the can...yer not a frat boy anymore...LOL
At least the martini was in a glass! 😁
Of course! I am not a barbarian! :-)
Get a bubbler. No more breaking ice.
I will definitely have on for next season. The marina told me they would have it covered with their ice eaters, but the cold overwhelmed what they had in place.
I had a 28’ carver before I went to a 35 Mainship, Carver SUCKS, hated that boat
Why my hatteras spends it's summers in the NE, fall in transit and winters in Florida or the Bahamas. Good luck guy.
I think that is what my future holds as well!
it is true that the bulge needs too be cleaned weekly, even keeping it clean can get too be a bitch.
Should put olives in that cocktail
I prefer onions, Lyn likes olive, but we had neither on the small boat.
I am watching this with our heater turned up. 53 was the low. 59 as a high today. Local news weathermen talked about covering plants. I wore 2 jackets and gloves. My son's baseball team played today during this severe AZ winter warning. We used heaters to warm their bats. As you eat from a can of soup from a frozen boat, we have kids that are afraid their baseball bats might get below 72 degrees and have less 1.15 bpf pop! These are my AZ problems as the polar caps melt. As always, love your sea adventures from the AZ desert! ua-cam.com/video/o4-EGabfVo4/v-deo.html
FamilyWinn 😁👍We are glad you liked the video! My mother lives in Florida and she has the same relative dilemma!
Hey Ed, I was wondering if that Annapolis sweatshirt is your favorite or the only sweatshirt you have...lol you were wearing it in the first couple of segments (over a few days).
Ha Ha. It is the only one I had on the boat! We only kept a few things there for the winter and never anticipated spending so much time there without going back home. At least you did not notice that I was wearing the same socks and underwear! :-)
Trying Not To Sink I’m not worried about the socks, but really don’t want to know about the other..lol
Yacht people on the great lakes been figured out it's a lot less stressful to store their boats on land .
It was strangely cold that year in Philly. The past two years the marina had no ice at all.
listen folks....fly me in...i will move both ur boats to the carribean ...you fly down and hook up with me..i will stay on smaller boat while you party on the larger one..when you go home i will transform your large boat into a floating den of iniquity and we split profits 50/50 ...sounds good, eh? get back to me.
I'll bounce that idea of Lyn. She loves iniquity!
Guys: you got a boat----go south for the winter....fly back if you need to.
Can't, I work in the winter!
They have two boats.......
SORRY SO LENGTHY
Trying not to **Freeze** and sink.... Pull them Puppies out of the water next season !!!. Good luck, And " God Bless ".
I will be more prepared next year - if I am still up north.
you may have gotten lucky, better check your motors. you may have much bigger issues.
We were lucky. The water did not get high in the engine compartments at all.
man, boat life looks hard.
Hard, but fun!
The tv or whatever is on in the background is really distracting. Otherwise, I like what you are trying to do with the channel
We usually try a little harder to produce a good video, but we were so wrecked from what we were going through we just filmed it by throwing a smart phone on a counter. No hair brush, no makeup!
I can understand being tired and all...but these cellphone microphones amplify the soft sounds into annoying background interference. Happens every time some one calls me from a car or a "quiet" office.
Lyn spends too much time interrupting Ed when he is talking!
Love your channel, but try not to start so many sentences with "So ........ " :)
In detroit we take them out and winterize them
But what about global warming? LOL
yup, that's exactly why it's now called climate change - it results in far more extreme weather.
Poor excuse for a marina seems like its managed by the City.
The owners definitely need to put some money into the lectrical system. On the upside, you cannot beat the location.
Ed is a good speaker [and knowledgeable] but he does tend to take the lion's share of the conversation. Lyn is a co-owner and would like to participate in the video so she has to jump in.
I can get talkative. :-) When it comes to the technical videos I tend to do most of the talking. Lyn does most of the talking on our destination videos. I think it speaks to how our minds work. She speaks of the beauty of the rose, I am the guy who won't shut up about cultivation.
Please Note: YOU Both interrupt each other's conversation so much. Please allow each other to talk individually. Give your mind a break... to listen... and then respond at an appropriate time. AND the other person should refrain from speaking. YOU BOTH interrupt each other so often, and interject useless comments. Please respect each other MORE!
What you are watching is not a scripted tv show, or planned in anyway. It is just us reacting, in real time, to the stress of the situation. However, we agree with your criticism, we do tend to step on each other and are trying to refrain.
Hmm. You are on a boat. Move to Florida!
Maybe some day.
I can no longer watch the videos due to her constant yammering. In spite of the fact I love his boat and am looking for a similar one to purchase. As a disabled veteran I have give up on a sailboat or motor sailor. I am limited in the use of my right arm. Being him I would gladly spend anything to never her that whining voice again.
Being a veteran doesn't mean you have the right to be an asshole. It's their youtube channel and they do what ever they want with it.
Drive the boat somewhere warm. Problem solved.
What a money pit, thanks for the reality check of boat ownership
On top of all the negative comments, take it from someone who has experience with below freezing temps and boats. Get yourself 4 bubblers and put one on each corner at the stern and the other two up near the bow. You DO NOT want your boat frozen in. The ice will crush it.
I plan to do that next year. We were fortunate that my dock neighbor had an ice eater between our boats so it was only one side, the dock side, that was getting frozen. And I kept that broken up manually. It was different on the small er boat. I could not keep up with the ice.