Why Sweden is Gambling $4BN on this Super-Deep Tunnel
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Stockholm is in a race to fix it's traffic congestion. But will this really work?
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no lol
Reality roll by design...haha
yep
The IKEA highway, connecting the two stores north and south of the city.
Damn, I'm suddenly craving meatballs.
I bet that was taken in consideration when they started this.
Everyone knows what you really need for Ikea is a highway through the shop itself so you can go straight to the thing you need to see and not all the way around it. :D
Funny thing is that the bypass startpoint is next to the biggest IKEA in the world
@@lars-akechesburg9911 It's no longer the biggest one, maybe it was when you heard that fact but things change...
the correct side of the road!
Damn, I didnt expect to see this here. I spent 5 years working on this project on one of the sections. We had about 4 kilometers of main tunnels + all small connection tunnels and ramps, which added up to about 20 kilometers of tunnel. It was very interesting work.
I worked on it in 2020 for 6 months. Quite interesting, but things were still moving slowly Honestly I have some doubts it's gonna be finished by 2030, but let's see.
Who the hell provided that b-roll at 6:15 ?!? 💀
"Fill up your car like someone that has never pumped gas before"
@@daricora must be someone from new jersey
Gas is nowadays so cheap in Sweden so we can afford this ;)
I don't even need to check, I know exactly what happens then
Derek Zoolander!
I admire your self restraint with not including even a single “Förbifart” joke.
What could possibly go wrong in an 18 km tunnel?
It would be cool for you to look back at some of your older episodes and check back on the status of those construction projects today!
All the stock footage was actually of Stockholm, the description of the project as well as the history of traffic in Stockholm was accurate. Impressive!
That's true, even the stock footage at 6:14 is from Sweden, I know because I'm the guy in the video.
@@GackFinder Lär dig tanka för i helvete
i live in sweden and i havent even heard about this lol
2:44 Fred: This enormous project isn't built in a day
Me: *he's going to talk about the sponsor*
The problem isn't congestion in Stockholm per-se among its inhabitants; introducing more public transport would help with that. The problem is that Stockholm, as is mentioned, is built on a number of islands, between the Mälaren lake and the Baltic Sea, the former of which serves as ~150 km wide barrier. As a result, Stockholm serves as the only land bridge along the east coast.
In addition to the inhabitants of Stockholm, there is a lot of traffic that needs to go from other parts of Sweden north and south of Stockholm. Because there are massive waterways they need to pass through the city, and there are currently essentially only two proper highways. One goes through the very center of the city - past the historical old town - and the other, Essingeleden, passes slightly to the west of it. (There are two smaller bridges but those are really just intended for city busses, vans, few passenger cars, bicyclists, etc - not long-haul trucks carrying containers)
We've had incidents in the past where a long-haul truck crashed and blocked several lanes of traffic on the Essingeleden and it was catastrophic for not just the city's inhabitants but all other logistics passing through the city.
The Stockholm bypass is meant to offer one additional route bypassing the center completely. While some Stockholmers might use it to cut their driving commute travels, and it will off-load the highways in the center, in practice the really big beneficiaries will be long-haul truck drivers.
If you get fewer people in Stockholm on the existing roads with public transit that would open up more road capacity for long distance transport. Or, if you really need to bypass the city entirely (say, when transporting hazardous goods or something) then rail is better for long distance cargo and build a rail tunnel.
I think this is something a lot of commenters are missing, too many people have this knee-jerk anti-car response whenever there is any new road construction. It's same idea for the road tunnel in Antwerp, route lorries around the city (in that case to get to the docks). Even if it doesn't help with congestion that much, fewer lorries in urban areas that don't need to be there is always a good thing for both air quality and safety.
@@fernbedek6302 Sweden is fairly sparsely populated outside of a few major cities, the rail network isn't extensive enough and mills and factories are too spread out to make a large amount of rail freight economic.
@@Croz89 I'm Canadian. We're even more sparsely populated. We're still able to make rail the main way we move freight. If anything, low densities are good for freight rail because there's less stopping and starting and more benefit from saving on driver-hours over the long distances you're having to transport things.
@@fernbedek6302 Canada has the US freight rail network to connect to, plus it has ports on both coasts and a lot of low value bulk goods to move. Sweden's railway doesn't really connect much to much outside Sweden, only Copenhagen via the Oresund and a couple of connections to Norway (Finland is a break of gauge). Sweden's rail network isn't much less extensive really, it's just more passenger focused.
Unless you're dealing with containers off ships, higher value lower volume goods are generally going to be moved by road, it just doesn't make sense to build a railway spur to every factory, mill or refinery, or even a loading station in the local area.
This would easily cost £150bn in the UK
4:40 Most of this is just the NATM method, rather than a unique under water tunneling method.
"More lanes have been added but it's not enough" yeah bro just one more lane bro we'll fix it bro one more lane
Volvo has bought most swedish politicians
They changed from 2 lanes to 3
Not some crazy texas thing were they ha e like 8
@@fdssd1736volvo is owned by china and no they have not
Yep, all I could think about was induced demand.
You get to a safe and functional number of lanes then you stop.
Usually this is 2-3
6:14 Someone teach that guy how to use a petrol pump!!!
The petrol pumps are green in the Philippines as well. Practically shit in my pants every time I fill up my motorbike!
And I don't try to spill half of my weekly 4 liters all over the pavement, either!
Yes, he should be imprisoned for our safety. Sheesh.
Bro spilled like 5€ worth of gas for no reason lmao
He dunno he a Swedish #borg #borg #borg
what's up with these low quality videos filled with ads
Seeing a lot of weird takes from people who presumably do not understand the situation. A bypass is needed. The E4 is one of if not the most trafficked highway in Sweden, running along the entire country and going through Stockholm. There are countless journeys being taken going north or south and they all have to pass THROUGH the capital on the current E4. A bypass can divert all those cars and semi-trucks so that the traffic that you see in the city is basically only city traffic, no one just passing through. If you're going from Sundsvall to Jönköping, why would you need to drive through the capital and add to the traffic there?. It's like if every journey going along the east coast of the United States HAD to go through Washington D.C
@tobias_dahlberg Exactly. It would have made so much more sense to simply spend all this insane amount of money on updating road 55 Norrköping-Katrineholm-Strängnäs-Enköping-Uppsala. It's such a no brainer for people NOT living in or close to Stockholm. The insane amount traffic that is forced do drive through or close to Stockholm unnecessary seems to have been completely forgotten.
And it's not like this rather short ring road will fix that. A lot of the congestion starts close to Nyköping even in the south-east and there are often congestion significantly further north than Sollentuna. This project will not fix that at all, but probably even increase it even more as fewer will consider road 55 when this project is completed as now at least they will not drive more or less into Stockholm.
@@dataandcolours6284 I think it might be step 2, step 3 Motala, Örebro, Gävle, no one cares about west of Vettern.😆
You know what I like about tunnels. You can’t add more lanes after it’s finished.
We have a tunnel going through Hallandsåsen that cost around 11,9BN to build
That's in kronor not dollars
So, when are you gonna cover the rail tunnel project Västlänken in Gothenburg? It would be a really good case study on contruction project controversy.
I also want to watch that. Love from Norway
A worthless project driven by clueless politicians. Gravy train for consultants and contractors, just like the British HS2.
Something on the upgrades on the west coast main line would be interesting too. Last time I was visiting a friend I saw the massive box they were building for the new station at Varberg and tunnel that would mean it no longer had to go through the middle of town with the level crossing.
FYI this is not only about congestion. The focus is to mainly shift away throughrunning traffic from the city center and also to reduce vulnerability of the road system in Stockholm.
Exactly and what is why this is such a bad solution. This ring will both be extremely expensive but not actually solve the problem as the ring is simply to close to Stockholm. There is typically often congestion all the way from Södertälje in south on the E4 and also congestion north of Sollentuna. This ring road will not fix that at all. It amazes me that the politician doesn't realize that a huge part of the problem is through-traffic that have no destination or departure anywhere close to Stockholm. Significantly updating road 55 had made so much more sense and be a more economically sound investment.
@@dataandcolours6284Fast är det verkligen så mycket trafik redan från Södertälje? Det brukar börja i höjd med Botkyrka (såvida inte något trafikhinder uppstår) om man ska norr ut, så på så vis är den ju rätt så bra planerad
@@Idkwhothisiss8 Nja om man hade haft en avstickare på förbifarten som avlastar bron över södertäljekanalen hade det vart toppen. Den är också en huvudled över en vattenbarriär som faktiskt ställer till med många, många problem.
Actually around 30 000 islands in Stockholm :)
ABBA Rules!
here is an idea for reducing carbon emmisions in the air with tunnels,since tunnels need intakes andd exhausts for air on the underground,you put carbon capture machines right at the air filtering system.That way all the emmisions from cars on the tunnel get trapped and stored in underground rocks before ever coming on the surface,that way you get the best of both worlds,less trafic in the city ,more space for construction and parks,as well as better air quality
1:35 - I'm confused, how does an increase of 43% end up at 3.5 million?
43% of (almost) 1 million would be 430,000? Which would end up at around 1,430,000?
Am I missing something?
The region currently has a population of 2.45 million. 2.45 x 1.43 = 3.5
I have been waiting a long time for this video! As it's such a big project i Thought it would pop up here sooner or later. And i'm not disappointed by it either!
Would be cool if you made a video about the extension of the subway system in stockholm as well as they are building the deepest subway station in the world as well as having had some big chalanges of a very different kind to what you normaly hear about!
Why not use TBM here?
The tunnel is so deep it's basically all solid granite bedrock.
@@GackFinder the solid granite bedrock starts only a few meters bellow the dirt
Sweden should invest in railway instead.
Besides this project they are also building out the metro network a lot. What I still don’t understand is with so much tunneling being done that the whole klarastrandsleden to centralbron is not being tunneled. Mind boggling how a major road like that can just pass through the middle of the city.
hopefully it will be closed to private motor traffic instead
Mind boggling not just passing right through the city centre, but doing it on some of the most phenomenal plots of land available.
@@magnushultgrenhtc*United States intensifies*
@@counterfit5 like/dislike
Damn, imagine having a Walmart supercenter there! But at least we got a highway❤
More roads do not fix traffic.
14 big islands else it is the big arkapelego of Stockholm
that would make it a lowway, no?
Stockholm and Tirana is told to be the only capitals in Europe without a road around it.
"city of Skärholmen"
7:29 Yeah the traffic is always like that, I know because I live close to that part your showing
There is another bypass route as well, much longer but also cheaper and has local benefits along the way.
Road 50 from Mjölby to Motala has been upgrade a lot in recent year, allowing a connection from E4 to E20/E18 to Enköping.
From there Road 50 again from Enköping to Uppsala and we have a serious contender for bypassing the Stockholm choke point. It does bypass Sörmland and most of östergötland as well, so it is not for all traffic, but it should help solve some of the problems.
They didnt want any more delays so they hired euroMINING to complete the tunneling. You can see their logo atleast two times in the video, as the name tells they are mostly doing mining, under ground mining, so they might know a thing or two.
Passing by my hometown.. We been waiting long rime for this tunnel..
People actually moving away from Stockholm
So confused. I hope you don't mean to imply that those meatballs are what's left of Björn and Benny?
Talk about the Lucky Sorter!
This is a mistake. Focus on public transport Sweden!
Sigh ...
They do. With 18 new metro stations. Except costing twice as much as this "mistake".
They are
This fucking tunnel has ruined my life
The title update is so on-point!
I recall back in the 60's an African nation (nameless) announced they were going to change from driving on the left to driving on the right, BUT that the changeover would be done ..... gradually !!!!!!
Gradually is worse
*As a Stockholmer this project has been absolute DISASTER for the economy, traffic, taxpayers' money due to delays and delays*
I remember passing the entrance in hägggvik plenty of times as a kid. I forgot about it completely.
Electric cars being allowed in the tunnel makes it a thanks but no thanks for me, I'll rather risk getting a bit of slow traffic than being stuck in a fiery death trap...
I worked on this scheme over 10 years ago as a strutural engineer through GGJV (Grontmij / Golders) and it was fun... one thing about the Swedes that i remember was regular meetings to plan the next series of meetings, all within a multi-disciplinary design envirnment... lol
I heard that a few of those who plan the meetings actually like them!
Sounds like classic bureaucracy. Governments love such things. You'll have a meeting to discuss a time for another meeting to decide on when next to have a meeting about moving on to the next phase, then a meeting to discuss the options for the next phase then a meeting to discuss which phase was chosen, to then meet to discuss how to proceed. A lot of fruitful work of course, involving all stakeholders at every turn so everyone is in the loop.
To everyone who are against this project saying this is "just another lane". You are wrong. This isnt Houston where they increase to infinite lanes. This project is to divert the traffic from the city center. There is no reason for a highway to cut right through city centers like in stupid american cities. European cities have less traffic because our highways tend to be build around our cities, not straight through. This is exactly what this project is about.
You know that almost every major American city has an interstate ring road to by pass it, right?
@@UnbeltedSundew I checked the map and yeah you are right. However, there are also often hundreds of meters wide roads in the middle of the cities aswell. For example, Road 70 runs right through Columbus and Indianapolis, Kansas City, city centers.
@@isaks7042 Like the E4 that goes straight through Stockholm, is Stockholm an American city?
@@MrGunnar69 The E4 was built in the 60s, inspired by the US model. That's exactly what the city is now trying to rectify. Everyone agrees that it was a stupid idea, but they thought otherwise back then.
Stupid American cities huh? A little jelly of the good ole USA are we now? Just come on over, i swear you'll like it here, just don't say Stupid American anything around the people here or you'll end up gettin swatted by whoever hears ya 🤣😂
How dare you!
Take example form the mayor of Bucharest (Romania) who declared war on individual private transport (tripled the parking costs while making payed parking zones by the hour even for residents), public transport (buy less buses to make people walk more), city development (canceled all development plans and stopped infrastructure projects) and hot water (global warming is to blame for this).
The tunnel goes from where I live to where my grandmother lives. She's 85. It won't be completed before we both pass away from old age. I'm 34.
I do love me generational infrastructure projects, however I’m not sure why this is for vehicles only and not trains.
cut down on your smoking. At least you'll be healthy, even if the tunnel isn't done.
@@jake9764 probably too sharp elevation changes. Trains need to have very gradual elevation changes to operate (except for like Swiss alpine trains). Therefor trains would probably need their own separate project.
@@jake9764 They should be doing both, really, but more emphasis on the latter. Trains also take up less space and offer much more capacity, most of it could be built on the surface too.
Have you done videos on Slussen or the new Tunnelbanestations? Would be fun to see
I read about a long tunnel in Saudi Arabia where over 1000 people died after a fire🤷♀️
Why tunnels ?!
Because no one wants a motorway straight through their homes, businesses, nature reserves, etc.
Directing traffic outside of the city is a very good thing
Look at Paris, they have a highway ring around the city and the traffic is horrible. Imagine that traffic going through the city center. The solution is rarely just one thing.
The Stockholm by-pass is 30 years late. Most cities of that size have two or three "ring highways", Stockholm has a 3/4 of a ring highway, so not even 1 full ring which means there will be traffic issues no matter how much public transportation is built. Stockholm already ranks in the top 5 of all the world's cities when it comes to public tranaportation, so the issue isn't that there needs to be more public transportation to solve the congestion. Stockholm is right now building or planning for 18 new metro stations, they will cost twice as much as the by-pass but the new metro stations won't still be able to solve the traffic congestion in Stockholm.
So to sum it up; the public transportation system in Stockholm is one of the best in the world and its urban highways are among the worst in the world, comparatively.
>so not even 1 full ring which means there will be traffic issues no matter how much public transportation is built
This is such a dogmatic view of traffic and capacity, I wouldn't even know where to start with this comment honestly
@@ludvigholst4767 You don't seem to have any argument, that's why you don't know where to start. Ring roads are a very efficient way to divert the traffic from the city centre and it's custom to build ring roads at various distances from the center to ease congestion in bigger cities.
@@ludvigholst4767 The E4, widely considered the backbone of Swedish road infrastructure currently funnel traffic straight through Stockholm. If you type in directions from Kiruna (northernmost town in Sweden) to Malmö (3rd largest city in Sweden right next to Copenhagen) it will direct you through Stockholm.
@@roevhaal578 So why build the bypass in Stockholm and not further out west where it would be cheaper, faster, and more beneficial regionally?
@@ludvigholst4767 I don't know, I would also think that routing it either east or west of Södertälje, over Ekerö Municipality, Southeast of Bålsta and joining back with the E4 South of Uppsala would be better but I'm not an expert.
The city I live, Umeå doesn't really make sense in how they plan their roads either so maybe it's a Sweden problem.
Yeah, I am definitely the only kid that likes watching these videos
buckle up everyone. B1M is here
To be fair the 4B budget doesn't bother me at all - here in Lund it took 1B just to build a street car line stretching a few kilometers. 4B for a massive tunnel network? These guys are alot better at their job.
Different currencies. The ~1B SEK should be compared to ~40B SEK and counting.
Wouldn't foam be a better fire suppression system than water? They're banning petrol and diesel engines from parts of the city before 2030, which is when they predict this tunnel will be completed, so the majority of cars will be electric or hybrid, right? Sure, not all cars using the tunnel will be electric but surely future proofing the tunnel with better suppressant would be better.
Why? Foam hasn't really been proven to be more effective at putting out EV fires
You should do a video about the west link (västlänken) in Gothenburg
A lot of people are saying that Stockholm doesn’t have enough public transport, but the problem is that the highway network aren’t designed as thruways, but as a commuter option.
What a horrible project.
Imagine what amazing transit they could've built with $4B
Not like Sweden thought of that and are also building 18 new metro stations
They're already planning a city centre commuter rail tunnel, a new bus station, a new light rail line, and a new metro line and building 3 metro extensions, an underground bus station, a light rail extension and a high speed rail line.
Very enjoyable as always 👍
As someone who live very, very near to Häggvik, and have family at Ekerö, this bypass will save me atleast an hour of driving once it's done
Good video, maybe revisit this project again in the future if possible
Been down in that tunnel a few times over the past years while they been working on it an it always amazes me how deep it is
You should take a look at Västlänken while you are doing some digging, the huge tunnel building in Gothenburg.
Please do a piece on the Västlänken fiasco in Gothenburg.
Nice to live in a Town 200 miles vest of Stockholm, Örebro if you wonder.
"cold winters" You should see our "summers"... :D
It's probably time to check out the infrastructure projects in gothenburg! That video about gothenburg a while back didn't really cover them
Are you guys going to do a video on the Rogfast tunnel, would be interesting to see the logistics of digging sutch a deep tunnel
I live in stockholm, Ive never seen strained traffic in the city centre.
What do you mean by "strained"?
If you commute by car, you will experience congestion on every major road leading in to the city in the mornings, and out in the afternoon.
If you look up a route on Google Maps, most of the inner city is marked with red, =way more traffic than usual, for most of the time during rush hours.
Essingeleden, the current bypass, is severely congested during rush hours.
A drive through the city that takes fifteen minutes on a sunday morning will take one and a half hour on a weekday afternoon.
Its gonna be so awesome when its done! M
Gonna do great things for my city!
God damn, it's pleasure to observe such a mega project
Just one more lane, bro. At least they'll be able to put a train in the tunnel at some point.
They can't and they shouldn't
Eastern part of sweden lacks a bypass as well. Extra lanes need to use as busway lane and rail lines.
This is what Toronto needs for the gardeniar; an express bypass while there is still room for the option
I hate that thing so much.
You should do a video on Västlänken. You could probably do a series to be honest.
Accidents will be a nightmare.
Bottom line and dollar, hydrogen will be the select answer.
Building a bypass or ring road should be combined with reducing the road through the city
Agree, but remember, we're only talking about at most 3 lanes in each direction. And given the amount of on-ramps and Y-junctions and lane shifts, effectively those 3 lanes are more like 2 lanes due to all the bobbing and weaving you have to do. If you're traveling on the E4 through Stockholm expecting to just cruise steadily in one lane, you're gonna be disappointed. You can only pull that off in the very early mornings when there's less traffic.
That's exactly what's planned
there is already 3/4ths of a ringroad but it never to finished
these videos don't go very profound anymore in my opinion. I would like it to dig deeper into the topic ideally.
The BM1 is starting by asking if it is a pointless project.
Then ending by welcoming it!?
Dude just one more lane I swear
Rio de Janeiro has been building its "metropolitan arc" (beltway) for 14 years, so this construction work seems fast to me.
Speaking of Sweden, when will you be covering Västlänken and Karlatornet?
Hey London, Stockholm doing it, now It's your turn...
I live right next to this, I used to hear the regular explosion signals.
I wonder why they're not using those new boring machines
we make boom we use boom
@@castorchua Rock is too hard and there's a lot of water
That outro song song smacked
I live in Stockholm and I can tell you that this new bypass is sorely needed. Currently the E4 which is a major highway which runs north-south through the entire country, goes right through the city center. A major highway running through a city center is just absurd.
Except it doesn't run through the city centre
@@usefulcommunication4516 thats just semantics, you can see the almost entire city hall from the highway
@@einar8019 If you honestly think the route that the E4 (actually E20) takes around Stockholm constitutes the centre, then I'm guessing you must work for Ryanair and are the person who called Skavsta airfield, 'Stockholm Airport'
@@usefulcommunication4516 The E4 literally goes through Kungsholmen or norrmalm depending on which road you take. It definitely goes through the city centre.
@@ErikTheAndroid You're talking about Centralbron. If you travelling on "the E4 which is a major highway which runs north-south through the entire country" you wouldn't go anywhere near that. Unless you're a mental case and want to take a major diversion/scenic route.
Nice film! I have also worked on the project! Buildning electrical infrastructure, several years ago!
even tho Stockholm is growing, people move away from it, and for a few years now Stockholm has a negative growth due to the pandamic and remote work. but people dont want to go back to Stockholm for a many different reasons. but stockholm is a area with many companies and other job opportunities. so many travel to stockholm for work. But we have seen the white flight from stockholm to my area that is about 3 hours away from Stockholm. we have a few new "suburbs / community´s" (not gated) that have popped up and mostly people from stockholm moved in to those. we even have 3 Aviation community ´s but its mixed with Germans, Swedes and other European people.
Nimbys and banana types go to the other extreme: dont build it and no one will come. Hmmmmmmm..... Doesnt exactly work that way.
Side note, when Sweden had left-hand traffic, we still had left-hand driven cars. Which made for exiting overtaking.
Interesting that they went with drill & blast instead of a TBM. Googling, it's seems TBMs are better suited for tunneling through stable rock, so I guess Stockholm is lacking that..?
Since there is no tradition of building TBM tunnels in Sweden’s hard rock, the cost of planning and design is higher compared to alternative methods like “drill and blast.” Also a road with multiple traffic intersections is not favorable for TBM. Sure TBMs are better suited for tunneling through stable rock, but many times Stockholm’s geological conditions does not favor this method.
Rock is too hard, there's a lot of water, and we already use drill and blast extensively
@@brigadgeneralvoid2508 Rock is not to hard. A TBM is currently being used to borr a tunnel under Stockholm. Its called AST or Anneberg-Skanstull-Tunnel. The main issue with a TBM for the bypass is that the bypass is very big and its more wide and less tall. You would en up excavating a bunch or rock that you dont need to do.
My big pet peeve with this project is that they made the Lovö island exit so complex and in such a silly location, traffic channeling to smack dab middle of a nature reserve. What they should've done is swing the tunnel curves around a bit and build a junction before (underneath Kungshatt, for traffic towards Ekerö) and a junction after (around Nockeby).