person is ahead of his time with the whole "toxic masculinity" chat🙏🏼if the term "toxic masculinity" can't be used for women that take advantage of their masculinity, then that word simply doesn't exist.
The word “Aggressive” is not toxic . The word itself is not toxic. Aggressive is a state or attitude, the “act” is what is toxic. A man can be aggressive to protect, is that toxic? A man can be aggressive to harm, that is toxic. The act of “harming” is toxic. We were aggressive when we fought against apartheid, were we toxic to the whites then? No, because our “Act” was protecting our rights. Apartheid was aggressive, its “act” was causing harm, so that was toxic. Basically that was toxic masculinity. To conclude, masculinity is a state of mind. Masculinity is not toxic, but we make it toxic. Masculinity is selfless, but we managed to find hack into it, to use it to our benefit. Removing the “less” from “selfless”, to focus on “self”.
Nicely said and I would like to add that natural aggressive energy is not toxic, a plant growing is aggressive energy and a baby/youngling being born is definitely aggressive energy. As with swear words human being give meaning to words - "curse"/swear words themselves are just "meaningless"/neutral words that carry the information - our understanding is what designates the meaning. Even in witchcraft terms, the energy of the person saying the words designate their intent.
BTW, Dr Umar, as a child psychologist, advised parents to reject the diagnosis of kids. He says, at least as far as in the USA, schools are funded more for these kids who have been diagnosed with ADHD etc. Schools claim money that they are supposed to use to support these kids and they end up not using it for the intended purpose. But generally he says these kids mostly are misdiagnosed and he states the steps that parents should take in assisting their kids. It requires mostly attention and support on the part of the parents in conjunction with the parents. We are over medicating kids unnecessarily so.
Hayibo Penuel, Can You Sometimes Allow Flowing Conversations To Carry On 😭 What A Beautiful Conversation, So Necessary And Very Enlightening 🙌🏾 I Love Listening To Daddy's Girls Because I'm Raising Two And Their Experiences Heal My Inner Child. 🥹❤
The fact that we struggle as a society to define things like masculine and feminine is the biggest concern. Language entropy. Very soon we won't be able to have conversations and come to common understanding because we can't agree on definitions. How is toxic masculinity different from toxic femininity? There's no answer to this question that everyone would agree with.
I agree with ursula, these general traits that society has created, have caused so much issues. That's why some men who don't fit the "so called" criterion for being "a man" have their sexuality questioned and try to prove their masculinity and end up harming themselves and others or end up suffering from depression etc. I am a woman that doesn't have a majority of these "so-called " female traits, does this mean I am a man? I have been told countless times a woman does this, a woman does that, but that just isn't who I am . There are women who are not innately nurturing or kind and can be aggressive and that doesn't mean they are masculine. Cause that would mean that we are saying that any "negative" trait in a woman has is masculine, so in essence we are saying being a man is bad? That's why we have that situation where Penuel asked so if a woman kills, or is a bully is it toxic femininity or toxic masculinity? We must just stop calling behavior based on gender. Aggression is aggression and that is it, it has no gender, kindness is kindness its not just a female trait....
I think the father should be fully present to ensure authority and to properly lead. A two parent household is important to set an example for the kids on how to treat your partner
Our attention span may be dropping by the day because of how the attention economy has evolved (fueled by the advancement of technology and easy accessibility thereof). It may seem odd but I seek out for long term content. I liked Ursula and Penson's long winded answers and not wanting to conclude and box things and fast track them for the sake of moving on because that's what we normally do in our social settings with friends around a braai or a table - we go back and forth on a topic until we exhaust it, and leave it still not having concluded it. I like the interruptions inbetween and the clown moments by Penson (this is not me saying I like yall talking over each other). This is just the nature of conversations. There are tons of short form content online and if I can't sit for more than an hour on the same topic, there's someone who will cater to me online somewhere. But maybe long form content is not what you’re trying to do Penuel? Maybe speak on it so you align us to what you’re trying to achieve so we’re on the same page? When I saw that this episode was 1H40 minutes, I was so happy and looked forward to wrapping up my evening with it. Topic was engaging, thought provoking and there's moments of humor and y’all respected each other throughout, so I can sit for 3 hours on this. But tell me to watch someone eating chips on Big Brother, you'd lose me in 5 minutes. Penuel, maybe limit the number of topics you want to cover to two or three, especially when you have more than one guest (and considering that you allow your crew BTS to jump in) so that 1. the topics can be stretched as far as they can go and 2. so you don't dissapoint your expectations for wanting to cover 5 topics in an hour. ❤
My understanding on whats happening now is like - when doing NATURAL RIGHT but the NATURAL RIGHT you doing is wrong for the ones who want to take advantage over you or what you possess. thats why they will bring up the Term "TOXIC" to make you feel wrong.
No disrespect to uSis Ursula but she didn't make much sense honestly. Instead of taking offense, I hope she listens to herself again and reflects on what she said vs what she was trying to say, and if it is truly valid. The root of inarticulacy is ignorance. She ran away from simply listing traits she would consider masculine or feminine but still wanted to talk about masculinity, Kanjani? She had to run to Google kanti articles on Google have their own agendas which she couldn't really incorporate into her argument. For me, she sounded like most females today who opt to be politically correct, with recycled opinions, instead of having critical and real conversations. S/O to Penuel for trying to help her out and be neutral as a host, but uSisi should articulate herself better next time, or stay out of the conversation. 45+ mins were spent going around in circles, Penson trying to understand her. Clearer conclusions could've been reached in that time.
Penson has a point... giving toxic behavior gender titles punishes the group for being part of that gender even if the individuals within the gender don't have any toxic traits.
I know it's podcasting and all but this thing of disturbing people you having a conversation with and you go on for a while it's irritating then you say sorry, goes to show you know what you doing is wrong. But that's my opinion
"conversation" dynamics, yes some things fall to the waist side but they are recreating a normal conversation and there will always be a dominating voice in such situations, just an option.
Personally, I’d appreciate the day we just see the next person as a human being and the consideration is balanced on respect of self and another human. So finally late nge gender
These poor zama zamas are forced to go underground by BLACK CARTELS operating in Jhb and Kimberley raping our country of the people’s resources, wers Matsha??? You don’t hear him or see him !
On toxic masculinity- for me it’s “as indoda/ma” followed by generally unfavorable behaviors that said man would not tolerate because apparently those who aren’t men ought to.
Men being present: That’s like asking if we prefer silent/ ghost investors who only come out to reap profit and gloat about hard work vs one that invests everything and pushes the project.
There’s also the aggressive responses to women who are assertive, and not coercied into agreeability by men as rejection because there’s no confidence in being a leader, apparently the issue is we don’t want to earn the respect
The problem is when a man decides to father a woman he has sex with having found her with her own mind personality and ideas. Relationships are an ongoing negotiation, the fact that from jump you had to convincer her means buy-in is critical, jiki jiki ke domination , manipulation le autocracy
The abusive addiction is watch this topic being processed by possibly unhealed narcissists with typical tendencies in the back your head and loving it 😂 Lowkey, this is a great observation of multiple things interacting at once
Why are the younger brothers pretty? Just like the Tate brothers, Tristan is prettier than Andrew, same as Penson is prettier than Penuel. Here is my take: The older brothers are the Toyotas (Low maintenance beauty) and the younger ones are the Ferraris (High maintenance beauty). The younger brothers are one pimple away to looking like ogres, and the older brothers are one huge rock falling on their faces at 50 000 km/h to looking like Ferraris.
If it's suppose to be a 5 hour podcast let it be as long as there's food for thoughts you guys can go on, I was listening to this at work, I use to listen to radio while working believe me when I say I can only decide to stop listening when there's little to nothing intellectual interesting in your conversations.
To demonstrate the point that aggression is not a bad thing: when you're defending your family against a snake and you do it aggressively, surely, but surely that can't be a bad thing - no?
Using Pensins previous argument against the Google term "toxic masculinity" I look at him sideways for not rejecting the father's role as termed by Akon, Tate, etc. He seems more amenable to their definition of the dad's role than he was about Google's terms.
I have an epileptic son, he’s not “aggressive” very reserved presents no homo vibes but gets called out by grown men for not being masculine enough acting like a boy and then forced into proving nonsense by doing things like sports he doesn’t identify with to overcompensate.
I SCREAMED when the one guy said “what Ursula’s TRYING to say is…” 😭🚮 major trigger. Otherwise, very nice episode guys. Certainly brought plenty of my own biases and prejudices to the fore that I’m now forced to reflect upon.
What is so hard about owning yourself, being disciplined and regulating yourself as a human being? By all means be male/ female- learn to code switch, read the room and make sure when society is concerned, that you’re not the predator, threat or nuisance. Soft skills are what people often confuse with feminine traits. There’s a spectrum of intellect that largely was optional for men, we need to be dynamic.
Can we not go back to the days where we'd call someone who would use their privileges to harm anyone an "Abuser" Now we have people here dropping words like "toxic masculinity" into the zeitgeist, and we're battling to define them😂
Someone please tell Penuel the stats all around the world on rectal foreign objects on men vs women, the ratio is 28:1... People be shoving things on those sensitive areas🙊
Hi all, thanks for the dope conversations. Toxic femininity is what many people think of as “stereotypical femininity" A term that describes a rigid and repressive definition of womanhood that can include: -Adherence to gender roles: Restricting women to being passive, submissive, and gentle -Social pressure: Pressuring women to be consistently pleasant, accommodating, and compliant -Shaming: Discouraging women and others from expressing their emotions
@neemcreates You're talking absolute nonsense. So you're say toxic feminity is what you feminists call toxic masculinity. Like wtf. So somehow you guys have managed to blame 'Toxic masculinity' for 'Toxic femininity'. So positive feminity is basically, women being unruly. That's positive? Nonsense.
Also women generally don’t go around putting things up their butts. 😂 just say there’s an over prioritization of maintaining so called masculinity over health. Sometimes just get what you need to get done, done. Regardless of comfort or reputation- same mechanisms preventing people from just doing the right thing
South Africans are poor in many ways and yes we understand that you're tryna to work on the psychological aspect but I think many will agree with me when I say you need to start making more content about money
The conversations you guys are talking about are very important. However can those guys not seen on the camera tone down on their twanging... I loose them and you guys even have to fail to follow.
If i should have any reason ever to hate listening to this podcast, it would only be because you guys always interrupt each other, you talk over each other. One of the most annoying things when i try to engage and take in what you guys say. I count only a few times when one of you allows the other to finish their point or sentences. any way, its coming from a good place
I must say these conversations have potential but when Penuel has these conversations the discussion can be unruly and eventually they end up not discussing the important issues with the depth that this platform commands. I've seen this unrulyness especially gets worse when his brother is on. It leaves the viewer with that cliff hanger feeling, and not in a good way either. It's disappointing but maybe I should just skip on these conversations lest they diminish my appitite for the channel.
Actually, maybe disregard this criticism. I've gone through some of the comments and it seems people genuinely enjoyed the talk. It must be that I prefer more structured and perhaps formal discussions over casual ones characterized by frequent interruptions. So I'll stick to listening to those solo vids you make as well as the panel discussions you've recently been part of on other platforms and perhaps the interviews as those tend to be more structured.
Also women generally don’t go around putting things up their butts. 😂 just say there’s an over prioritization of maintaining so called masculinity over health. Sometimes just get what you need to get done, done. Regardless of comfort or reputation- same mechanisms preventing people from just doing the right thing
Thank you for bringing Ursula back, God (Penuel) knows we needed it!
@@Nolo057 😂
Pen and Pen! Back at it. Here to learn and absorb knowledge from my big bros.
Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤
I haven’t watched you in a while gents but am back most importantly to Ursula hey Queen 🙌🙌
person is ahead of his time with the whole "toxic masculinity" chat🙏🏼if the term "toxic masculinity" can't be used for women that take advantage of their masculinity, then that word simply doesn't exist.
Pernson has bars for days always coming with hot facts 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Case closed
Thank you 🙏🏽 🤍
@@siyabongadlamini2904DANKO!!! 🔥🔥🔥
The word “Aggressive” is not toxic . The word itself is not toxic. Aggressive is a state or attitude, the “act” is what is toxic. A man can be aggressive to protect, is that toxic? A man can be aggressive to harm, that is toxic. The act of “harming” is toxic.
We were aggressive when we fought against apartheid, were we toxic to the whites then? No, because our “Act” was protecting our rights. Apartheid was aggressive, its “act” was causing harm, so that was toxic. Basically that was toxic masculinity.
To conclude, masculinity is a state of mind. Masculinity is not toxic, but we make it toxic. Masculinity is selfless, but we managed to find hack into it, to use it to our benefit. Removing the “less” from “selfless”, to focus on “self”.
Nicely said and I would like to add that natural aggressive energy is not toxic, a plant growing is aggressive energy and a baby/youngling being born is definitely aggressive energy.
As with swear words human being give meaning to words - "curse"/swear words themselves are just "meaningless"/neutral words that carry the information - our understanding is what designates the meaning. Even in witchcraft terms, the energy of the person saying the words designate their intent.
Where were you when I needed you on the podcast?!!
This explanation is GOLD!!!
Finally Pen&Pen is back😂😂🔥🔥🔥
DANKO!!!
Seeing these gents makes me so glad that I have a great relationship with my siblings...
BTW, Dr Umar, as a child psychologist, advised parents to reject the diagnosis of kids. He says, at least as far as in the USA, schools are funded more for these kids who have been diagnosed with ADHD etc. Schools claim money that they are supposed to use to support these kids and they end up not using it for the intended purpose.
But generally he says these kids mostly are misdiagnosed and he states the steps that parents should take in assisting their kids. It requires mostly attention and support on the part of the parents in conjunction with the parents. We are over medicating kids unnecessarily so.
This is beautiful men!!! Lovely conversation.
Damn!! I missed you guys!!!❤😂
Same, I really missed them. The banter too🤣🤣🤣
Thank you 🙏🏽
Hayibo Penuel, Can You Sometimes Allow Flowing Conversations To Carry On 😭 What A Beautiful Conversation, So Necessary And Very Enlightening 🙌🏾 I Love Listening To Daddy's Girls Because I'm Raising Two And Their Experiences Heal My Inner Child. 🥹❤
Exactly! I don't understand why he uses time limit. Telkom has got us iData nje likhona
Thanks for the informative content marn and can we please have a monthly conversations of the duo @Pen and Pen
Can we please have Penson in every episode...
We've been begging 🙏🏽
YEEEESSSSSS!!!!! ❤❤❤
We watch the entire 5 hours, please make them longer, especially when there's Penson
DANKO!!!!! ❤
We need Pen & Pen at least once a week. I thoroughly enjoyed all the topics🫡 and of course we love Ursula
Thank you 🙏🏽
This Konvo makes me think about the docie\movie ... What is a Woman. We are really greatful for the energy you kontinue to share with Us. AseO.
The fact that we struggle as a society to define things like masculine and feminine is the biggest concern. Language entropy. Very soon we won't be able to have conversations and come to common understanding because we can't agree on definitions.
How is toxic masculinity different from toxic femininity? There's no answer to this question that everyone would agree with.
I agree with ursula, these general traits that society has created, have caused so much issues. That's why some men who don't fit the "so called" criterion for being "a man" have their sexuality questioned and try to prove their masculinity and end up harming themselves and others or end up suffering from depression etc. I am a woman that doesn't have a majority of these "so-called " female traits, does this mean I am a man? I have been told countless times a woman does this, a woman does that, but that just isn't who I am . There are women who are not innately nurturing or kind and can be aggressive and that doesn't mean they are masculine. Cause that would mean that we are saying that any "negative" trait in a woman has is masculine, so in essence we are saying being a man is bad? That's why we have that situation where Penuel asked so if a woman kills, or is a bully is it toxic femininity or toxic masculinity? We must just stop calling behavior based on gender. Aggression is aggression and that is it, it has no gender, kindness is kindness its not just a female trait....
Personally the thing about being able to work, buy, own and be is about safety, survival and self determination
For November men's health South Africa is curing prostate cancer i am so shocked this is not making waves.
The class room is definitely geared to clam boys down
Right!
I think the father should be fully present to ensure authority and to properly lead. A two parent household is important to set an example for the kids on how to treat your partner
This is what I have subscribed for 😅
Exactly 🔥🖤
this was a dope conversation with great insights🔥🦾
Good stuff.
Please make the debate happen.
Our attention span may be dropping by the day because of how the attention economy has evolved (fueled by the advancement of technology and easy accessibility thereof). It may seem odd but I seek out for long term content.
I liked Ursula and Penson's long winded answers and not wanting to conclude and box things and fast track them for the sake of moving on because that's what we normally do in our social settings with friends around a braai or a table - we go back and forth on a topic until we exhaust it, and leave it still not having concluded it. I like the interruptions inbetween and the clown moments by Penson (this is not me saying I like yall talking over each other). This is just the nature of conversations.
There are tons of short form content online and if I can't sit for more than an hour on the same topic, there's someone who will cater to me online somewhere. But maybe long form content is not what you’re trying to do Penuel? Maybe speak on it so you align us to what you’re trying to achieve so we’re on the same page?
When I saw that this episode was 1H40 minutes, I was so happy and looked forward to wrapping up my evening with it. Topic was engaging, thought provoking and there's moments of humor and y’all respected each other throughout, so I can sit for 3 hours on this. But tell me to watch someone eating chips on Big Brother, you'd lose me in 5 minutes.
Penuel, maybe limit the number of topics you want to cover to two or three, especially when you have more than one guest (and considering that you allow your crew BTS to jump in) so that 1. the topics can be stretched as far as they can go and 2. so you don't dissapoint your expectations for wanting to cover 5 topics in an hour.
❤
My understanding on whats happening now is like - when doing NATURAL RIGHT but the NATURAL RIGHT you doing is wrong for the ones who want to take advantage over you or what you possess. thats why they will bring up the Term "TOXIC" to make you feel wrong.
Yah no we definitely need more Pen and Pen
We need a debate wena Pen on ‘toxic masculinity’
LETS GOOOO 😂❤❤❤❤❤
No disrespect to uSis Ursula but she didn't make much sense honestly. Instead of taking offense, I hope she listens to herself again and reflects on what she said vs what she was trying to say, and if it is truly valid. The root of inarticulacy is ignorance. She ran away from simply listing traits she would consider masculine or feminine but still wanted to talk about masculinity, Kanjani? She had to run to Google kanti articles on Google have their own agendas which she couldn't really incorporate into her argument.
For me, she sounded like most females today who opt to be politically correct, with recycled opinions, instead of having critical and real conversations. S/O to Penuel for trying to help her out and be neutral as a host, but uSisi should articulate herself better next time, or stay out of the conversation. 45+ mins were spent going around in circles, Penson trying to understand her. Clearer conclusions could've been reached in that time.
well said
These definitions are forever changing, I seriously can't keep up
It's cause and effect regardless of gender because trends change over time so behavior is graded based on the threshold for consensus
Even if you don't go for 5 hours but when you start a conversation please finish it instead of leaving for so called time
More time, same levity OR
Less time, more seriousness gents...
Friendly feedback from a loyal supporter. Shap gents.
🎲🎲
Ola Penzo and Penson and Penson looks funny without his beard 😁😁😁😁😁
Sooooo funny!!! 😂❤
He looks like a Detective
Penson has a point... giving toxic behavior gender titles punishes the group for being part of that gender even if the individuals within the gender don't have any toxic traits.
I know it's podcasting and all but this thing of disturbing people you having a conversation with and you go on for a while it's irritating then you say sorry, goes to show you know what you doing is wrong. But that's my opinion
"conversation" dynamics, yes some things fall to the waist side but they are recreating a normal conversation and there will always be a dominating voice in such situations, just an option.
I’m watch most of your posts on UA-cam i good 👍👍
Personally, I’d appreciate the day we just see the next person as a human being and the consideration is balanced on respect of self and another human. So finally late nge gender
There's no such thing. Your sex, and furthermore, your biology, informs who and what you are. Blank slatism is at odds with reality.
Road to 100k 🚀
These poor zama zamas are forced to go underground by BLACK CARTELS operating in Jhb and Kimberley raping our country of the people’s resources, wers Matsha??? You don’t hear him or see him !
On toxic masculinity- for me it’s “as indoda/ma” followed by generally unfavorable behaviors that said man would not tolerate because apparently those who aren’t men ought to.
Ursula is Back iam losing focus. 😊😂❤
Men being present: That’s like asking if we prefer silent/ ghost investors who only come out to reap profit and gloat about hard work vs one that invests everything and pushes the project.
There’s also the aggressive responses to women who are assertive, and not coercied into agreeability by men as rejection because there’s no confidence in being a leader, apparently the issue is we don’t want to earn the respect
Then we accuse the women of being men
The problem is when a man decides to father a woman he has sex with having found her with her own mind personality and ideas. Relationships are an ongoing negotiation, the fact that from jump you had to convincer her means buy-in is critical, jiki jiki ke domination , manipulation le autocracy
Toxic feminists could be the bekezela culture from the matriarchs raising toxically masculine men 😂
The abusive addiction is watch this topic being processed by possibly unhealed narcissists with typical tendencies in the back your head and loving it 😂 Lowkey, this is a great observation of multiple things interacting at once
Why are the younger brothers pretty? Just like the Tate brothers, Tristan is prettier than Andrew, same as Penson is prettier than Penuel.
Here is my take: The older brothers are the Toyotas (Low maintenance beauty) and the younger ones are the Ferraris (High maintenance beauty). The younger brothers are one pimple away to looking like ogres, and the older brothers are one huge rock falling on their faces at 50 000 km/h to looking like Ferraris.
U Sis I think u wrong because ladies are attracted to man with more musclulinity.
Sbonge 🙌🏾
All these buzz words flying around are honestly just stupid. Finally Pen and Pen👏🏾😎
Oh yes!!! ❤
P and P remind me of my brother and I 😂
Hence I don't mind when they Interrupt each other😂😂😂😂
It’s all love ❤
If it's suppose to be a 5 hour podcast let it be as long as there's food for thoughts you guys can go on, I was listening to this at work, I use to listen to radio while working believe me when I say I can only decide to stop listening when there's little to nothing intellectual interesting in your conversations.
😂Peneul Uma bembiza Toxic Musk.. ngoba wathi KuPenson uyiGay ngoba upenda izinzipho😂😂
Let's gooooo!
Prince Nhlanganiso is/was very active on this. An ambassader for man's health.
To demonstrate the point that aggression is not a bad thing: when you're defending your family against a snake and you do it aggressively, surely, but surely that can't be a bad thing - no?
Using Pensins previous argument against the Google term "toxic masculinity" I look at him sideways for not rejecting the father's role as termed by Akon, Tate, etc. He seems more amenable to their definition of the dad's role than he was about Google's terms.
I have an epileptic son, he’s not “aggressive” very reserved presents no homo vibes but gets called out by grown men for not being masculine enough acting like a boy and then forced into proving nonsense by doing things like sports he doesn’t identify with to overcompensate.
Dope conversation, could be better if you don’t talk over each other but took time to listen.👌🏾
Voice ya Ursula ☺ yohh
You first get a PSA blood test for prostate cancer. If the blood test comes back positive or inconclusive then you get the digital exam
I'm only here cause I saw Ursula's name 😌
Pen n Pen are the SA Tate brothers 🔥
I SCREAMED when the one guy said “what Ursula’s TRYING to say is…” 😭🚮 major trigger. Otherwise, very nice episode guys. Certainly brought plenty of my own biases and prejudices to the fore that I’m now forced to reflect upon.
Mansplaining 🫣🫣
Are those two guys brothers, curious to know please.
Much love from Nigeria.
Yes they are
@@charlesub1457 All love to my Naija brothers & sisters ❤️
why y'all noh show Ursula 😫
Quick question are strict parents toxic???
@BonganiNkosi-gx4qz "progressive" folk might say yes. Hence why even hidings are a crime now.
What is so hard about owning yourself, being disciplined and regulating yourself as a human being? By all means be male/ female- learn to code switch, read the room and make sure when society is concerned, that you’re not the predator, threat or nuisance. Soft skills are what people often confuse with feminine traits. There’s a spectrum of intellect that largely was optional for men, we need to be dynamic.
Most men are struggling internally because eq is often low, soft skills are now defining factors to smooth coexistence
Can we not go back to the days where we'd call someone who would use their privileges to harm anyone an "Abuser"
Now we have people here dropping words like "toxic masculinity" into the zeitgeist, and we're battling to define them😂
So what do you call it when whatever is toxic is a result of hormonal concentrations?
There is a feminist in the room.
Aniyekeni podcast iqhubeke uma inkulumo isavuma niyeke ukunaka isikhathi
Someone please tell Penuel the stats all around the world on rectal foreign objects on men vs women, the ratio is 28:1... People be shoving things on those sensitive areas🙊
Hi all, thanks for the dope conversations.
Toxic femininity is what many people think of as “stereotypical femininity"
A term that describes a rigid and repressive definition of womanhood that can include:
-Adherence to gender roles: Restricting women to being passive, submissive, and gentle
-Social pressure: Pressuring women to be consistently pleasant, accommodating, and compliant
-Shaming: Discouraging women and others from expressing their emotions
@@neemcreates thank you for this 🙏🏽
@@Penuelism we appreciate the chat as it sparks deeper discussion within and with others. 💫
who ever made those points to be a "toxic femininity" not just being feminine, all I can say is wow, a big WOW
@neemcreates You're talking absolute nonsense.
So you're say toxic feminity is what you feminists call toxic masculinity. Like wtf.
So somehow you guys have managed to blame 'Toxic masculinity' for 'Toxic femininity'.
So positive feminity is basically, women being unruly. That's positive? Nonsense.
@neemcreates You're talking absolute nonsense.
So positive feminity is women being toxic and unruly? Nonsense.
Get therapy, choose better friends, be honest intrinsically and get your medical check up
I always thought that Penson older than Penuel
This seems to be a thing generally. Sometimes the one who comes after is bigger and taller or something along those lines. It’s weird.
@@AfricaisnextpodcastclipsBigger… Taller… Sexier!!!! 😂❤
It’s coz I’m amazing 😅🫣🤍
@ 🤣🤣🤣
Fun and educational guys to listen to while I work
Also women generally don’t go around putting things up their butts. 😂 just say there’s an over prioritization of maintaining so called masculinity over health. Sometimes just get what you need to get done, done. Regardless of comfort or reputation- same mechanisms preventing people from just doing the right thing
How about toxic feminism
South Africans are poor in many ways and yes we understand that you're tryna to work on the psychological aspect but I think many will agree with me when I say you need to start making more content about money
But there are many financial content creators, why must he box the podcast
The conversations you guys are talking about are very important. However can those guys not seen on the camera tone down on their twanging... I loose them and you guys even have to fail to follow.
If i should have any reason ever to hate listening to this podcast, it would only be because you guys always interrupt each other, you talk over each other. One of the most annoying things when i try to engage and take in what you guys say. I count only a few times when one of you allows the other to finish their point or sentences. any way, its coming from a good place
This episode in it's entirety was a complete disaster.
Lol Penson, how would you feel about your woman feeling more comfortable with a male doctor touching her down there?
Never happening!
There are too many quality female doctors out there!
Never a male doctor!
Are we ever gonna talk about WOMEN TOXICITY?
or we gonna pretend it doesn't exist
@@xolanibuthelezi193 what would you like to say... get it off your chest.
Penual usumdala baba 😂
lol we wish most terminal treatments weren’t invasive or feel like violations. That part of female urologists sounds super objectifying 🤦🏽♀️
Speak for 3hrs
"What she was trying to say is..." Indoda edodela umfazi😂 Too much mansplaining, khame kancinci bafo.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Isreal ❤
I must say these conversations have potential but when Penuel has these conversations the discussion can be unruly and eventually they end up not discussing the important issues with the depth that this platform commands. I've seen this unrulyness especially gets worse when his brother is on. It leaves the viewer with that cliff hanger feeling, and not in a good way either. It's disappointing but maybe I should just skip on these conversations lest they diminish my appitite for the channel.
Actually, maybe disregard this criticism. I've gone through some of the comments and it seems people genuinely enjoyed the talk. It must be that I prefer more structured and perhaps formal discussions over casual ones characterized by frequent interruptions. So I'll stick to listening to those solo vids you make as well as the panel discussions you've recently been part of on other platforms and perhaps the interviews as those tend to be more structured.
Penuel why you don't put the conversations on Spotify anymore🫥
Afternoon guys
Ursula is Back iam losing focus. 😊😂❤
Also women generally don’t go around putting things up their butts. 😂 just say there’s an over prioritization of maintaining so called masculinity over health. Sometimes just get what you need to get done, done. Regardless of comfort or reputation- same mechanisms preventing people from just doing the right thing
Ursula is Back iam losing focus. 😊😂❤