The development that the Dream Eaters were Dandelions fused with Chirithies is one of those twists that not only redefines what we thought we knew previously but makes perfect sense in regards to what we knew previously. We already knew that Riku was able to become a Dream Eater himself, so that was already a precedent in the lore. Why did the Spirit Dream Eaters protect the dreams of hearts? Because that was their role in their past lives. How come the Heartless are unable to access the Realm of Sleep despite that being a dimension of darkness? Because the Spirits, former Keyblade wielders, have been keeping them out. The Nightmare Dream Eaters might have even been the Dark Chirithies of those same Keyblade wielders, manifested from their use of the Power Bangles (just me theorizing at the moment), or they were the fallen Chirithies of fallen Keyblade wielders.
Using what we know from KH3 replaying Dream Drop Distance definitely reminded me of a lot of plot points I didn’t realize when I originally played it and beat it on 3DS. Pay close attention to all the details presented in this storyline as it answers a lot of questions and leaves you with more that get answered in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I know that it shows that the Chirthies look like they are eating the hearts however I don’t think they are eating it, more like putting the heart inside them so that any nightmares have to get through them to get to the heart. I also don’t think that the player character just turns into the new heart. It’s more like the player has now become Xehanort’s subconscious trying to help him become the best person he can be without forcing him to go down any path. After all if he was truly pure evil wouldn’t he have just left Ventus to die in the Keyblade Graveyard or not give up when Erikus told him that it’s time to let go? The point is just cause something looks one way doesn’t mean it’s the only way. 😃 😎
@@maxhall4766 Being a game designed for the gba, the game just feels right, also the card system just fits in with the system. Translating it to a 3D environment the feeling gets lost, it didn't do much for the game especially in my opinion the gameplay. As you know people aren't a fan of the card system becuase going from KH1 to Re:com kinda annoyed people. And yes the game is kinda repetitive, but for a handheld game it works well, but for a playstation game nah-ah doesn't work well. So basically in my opinion that is what makes the gba superior to the ps2 version.
As someone who hasn’t played Dream drop distance, I’d say that adding this game is really interesting. Being able to play as two characters at the same time it’s cool and it almost made me believe that it was gonna be a two player game! But it wasn’t. But just imagine how cool and interesting that would be? Also I see Dream Eaters as some type of Pokémon. I’m getting Pokémon vibes!❤
The worst memory I had is when I was fighting the Black hooded Nightmare with Riku and I was about to beat him and right before I got that last hit on him it Drooped me (switched) me to Sora! I didn't have a don't drop me now 😢 and then I had to redo that whole fight with Riku again lol but I loved the storyline it had with Riku
Ikr,i think that Dream Drop Distance have gotten distant(yes I said) from the nowdays plot of Kingdom Hearts(besides Melody of Memories touch on the Dream thing and there'x Union Cross),this game fells like a DLC
I don't mind the concept of switching between Riku and Sora. but I wish it was more you complete the level as Sora then you complete the level as Riku.
I think that having the TWEWY characters in the game makes more sense because KH treats dead worlds as "sleeping worlds" and characters from a franchise about the afterlife are the best fit for the crossover. Plus, it opens the door for story development should it be revealed that TWEWY Shibuya is part of Quadratum, moreso likely a part of Quadratum's past than its present. The Nameless Star existing in The Final World could have been used as a conduit for Josh to bring Neku et al over to Traverse Town for a special round of the Composer's Game. Then there's the very nature of Traverse Town that needs to be taken into consideration. Unlike every other world in the Reality side of KH, Traverse Town exists solely as a haven for those hearts strong enough to withstand their home world falling into Darkness. When Sora restored the worlds in KH1, Traverse Town was no longer accessible. Therefore, it could be said that Traverse Town is a world whose default state is asleep and emerges in the waking world when needed. That makes it seem like the rough equivalent of the UG for Kingdom Hearts. The reason why Merlin was able to retrieve Pooh's book after the fact is that Merlin is a powerful magic user on the same levels as Fairy Godmother and Yen Sid. If Fairy Godmother is capable of traveling to The Final World at will and Yen Sid knows the power of waking (how can you otherwise justifiably base a Mark of Mastery exam on a power you don't possess yourself?), then it stands to reason that Merlin briefly traveling to Traverse Town in its sleeping state isn't out of the realm of feasibility.
Yeah because my fan theory is in the secret reports for neo the world ends with you dimensions to sumi's brother being dead like erased out of existence because they are the conductor of Shinjuku in my theory is what if in the Kingdom hearts timeline to sue me died but her bother survived and it makes sense considering the fact that Kingdom hearts is really the only reason we can meet a character and for other times a character is mentioned in the secret reports we already know that character and we saw them so I think that character is probably yorzo
Can I also point out Sora made a promise to Joshua and Shiki and Neku to visit Shibuya. Refrence to the secret ending to KH3?!! Reconnect Kingdom Hearts
I wonder what caused namora to use the dream eaters as the basis for the sleeping keyblade wielders in Union Cross because back then it didn't sound like namora had that planned for them🤔
Maybe they did that so you would question why sora is even able to summon dream eaters in kh3 also the scene where they all flock to embrace sora to add significance because he was almost turned into a vessel and the dream eaters where happy that sora survived to come see them because dream eaters are guardians maybe that's how he summoned ephamere and the other key blades i saw the attack like a light equivalent of what master Nort and venitas where already capable of doing.
Prodigy I have a confusing question in Union cross is the Spirit we all get a dead player who lost their hearts and became a dreameater for all of us to use or no?
It's oddly kind of funny the dream eaters Dream Drop Distance also have a really interesting resemblance to the noise from the world ends with you oh when I first played the game back next years ago I actually thought that maybe it was a sequel to the world ends with you in development the dream eaters also have a resemblance to this weird Disney jrpg that's squared doesn't have any involvement with called spectrobes actually really underrated especially with how some of the dream eaters work and if you're ever curious there three spectrobes games 2 for the Nintendo DS and one for the Wii which is the best one And if I'm being honest this is one of the few times where I actually don't really miss the Final Fantasy characters were think they should have been in the game I think that at some point it would have been a good idea to actually have them in there but not the Traverse Town characters honestly being there so many final fantasy characters nomura has designed for that I definitely think it'd be nice to see more fresh faces not just from Final Fantasy but from other Square Enix franchises and so it was kind of refreshing to see some different Square Enix acknowledgement I know that there was some fake rumor that lightning was going to be in the game and honestly that's the one Final Fantasy character I could probably go without but at the same time I think she be best for something like Olympus Coliseum as I think she'd thematically fit there plus her Gladiator uniform from Final Fantasy XIII-2 she definitely fit in something more like that I remember hearing about Olympus this going to be in Dream Drop Distance but honestly they have used that world so much that I'm kind of glad that it isn't entering drop another thing I noticed is a lot of the titles used in Dream Drop Distance weren't necessarily Financial successes for Disney if I remember correctly Tron legacy actually bombed at the box office which is really sad since that movie is f****** great not only that but Hunchback didn't necessarily do too well believe it or not Fantasia actually wasn't that successful when it came out the Musketeers world is just a straight-up straight-to-dvd film and so continuous with the other worlds featured except for maybe Pinocchio and even we wasn't really that successful the world ends with you wasn't really that successful at least domestically in Japan 4 Square Enix so as that whole cult classic vibe to it it's one of the things I've come to appreciate about Dream Drop Distance it's still one of the Lesser games to me but only because of Soros story as it really isn't that interesting and if I'm being honest I think we could go for an entire Kingdom Hearts game that follows either Riku or Kyrie that doesn't really follow Sora and I mean it totally worked out with say a Birth by Sleep and even both Union Cross and dark Road hell days as well help I'd totally be down for a Kingdom Hearts game that has has Mickey and Leon or Squall as the main two lead characters with Donald and Goofy well they investigate whatever because if I'm being quite honest I I think Surah has perhaps a bit too much screen time and the other side characters definitely need more and I don't really like Kingdom Hearts version of Mickey because he's kind of a jerk granted Mickey could be a jerk in his own original cartoons but really Kingdom Hearts Mickey is f****** frustrating plus he has technically been playable in a few Kingdom Hearts games and it'd be a quick way to make something for the series and give us both more Disney and Final Fantasy stuff at the same time for fans who want both and it could just help us as the wait for the next Kingdom Hearts number game is on the way however I do kind of want that Kyrie game more honestly I think she is very much over hated and is somewhat misunderstood not to the degree Tara is but Kyrie wasn't necessarily needed until the recent portions of the series and I'd be totally down with a Dream Drop Distance or Birth by Sleep styled Kingdom Hearts game that follows Sora kairi and Riku I don't know it just be really cool and now square has more than at least four teams working on these games from what I remember so the more Kingdom Hearts games the better especially since he can be pretty interesting and I think the Osaka team kind of needs a break I kind of miss the Old Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 Team might like to see them come back and I think that Dream Drop Distance is perhaps a bit overheated but I've always assumed that's because of the Sora half of the story because if you take most of saurus stuff out or make it a separate game and just make riku's portion of the story its own thing it is one of the best games and one of the best stories in the series and yeah I know we'll get some hay from that but it is kind of true at least from a character development point of view even if you think the writing in Kingdom Hearts as bad which I'm sorry it really isn't it's actually really good quite misunderstood but it is good even surpassing some of final fantasies best written stories you cannot deny that Riku is probably the best written character in the series next to perhaps Roxas and aqua I might even argues and Hortons than this because they're writing definitely goes hard and there's not really too much of xemnas.
Funny thing about Spectrobes, while Square Enix was never involved in the series, the first two games on the DS were developed by Jupiter, who co-developed Chain of Memories on the GBA and The World Ends With You on DS with Square Enix.
The development that the Dream Eaters were Dandelions fused with Chirithies is one of those twists that not only redefines what we thought we knew previously but makes perfect sense in regards to what we knew previously. We already knew that Riku was able to become a Dream Eater himself, so that was already a precedent in the lore. Why did the Spirit Dream Eaters protect the dreams of hearts? Because that was their role in their past lives. How come the Heartless are unable to access the Realm of Sleep despite that being a dimension of darkness? Because the Spirits, former Keyblade wielders, have been keeping them out.
The Nightmare Dream Eaters might have even been the Dark Chirithies of those same Keyblade wielders, manifested from their use of the Power Bangles (just me theorizing at the moment), or they were the fallen Chirithies of fallen Keyblade wielders.
It is absolutely insane that this game is 10 years old. I still think of it as "that one new-ish KH game."
I desperately want more Fantasia in KH. I thought they did it justice in DDD, but I need a true spectacle in Unreal Engine.
Uhhh.... So Epic Mickey?
Using what we know from KH3 replaying Dream Drop Distance definitely reminded me of a lot of plot points I didn’t realize when I originally played it and beat it on 3DS. Pay close attention to all the details presented in this storyline as it answers a lot of questions and leaves you with more that get answered in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I know that it shows that the Chirthies look like they are eating the hearts however I don’t think they are eating it, more like putting the heart inside them so that any nightmares have to get through them to get to the heart. I also don’t think that the player character just turns into the new heart. It’s more like the player has now become Xehanort’s subconscious trying to help him become the best person he can be without forcing him to go down any path. After all if he was truly pure evil wouldn’t he have just left Ventus to die in the Keyblade Graveyard or not give up when Erikus told him that it’s time to let go? The point is just cause something looks one way doesn’t mean it’s the only way. 😃 😎
They definitely aren't eating the hearts; when they become Nightmares however they do.
That scene when Sora goes back to Traverse Town to reunite with the Dream Eaters hits different after the end of KHX
Laughing so hard at at 3:38 haha. Thanks you so much.
Have you played Chain of Memories on the GBA? If not I highly recommend it
Just curious I played both gbs and remake and what makes gbs version better. Just wondering
@@maxhall4766 Being a game designed for the gba, the game just feels right, also the card system just fits in with the system. Translating it to a 3D environment the feeling gets lost, it didn't do much for the game especially in my opinion the gameplay. As you know people aren't a fan of the card system becuase going from KH1 to Re:com kinda annoyed people. And yes the game is kinda repetitive, but for a handheld game it works well, but for a playstation game nah-ah doesn't work well.
So basically in my opinion that is what makes the gba superior to the ps2 version.
As someone who hasn’t played Dream drop distance, I’d say that adding this game is really interesting. Being able to play as two characters at the same time it’s cool and it almost made me believe that it was gonna be a two player game! But it wasn’t. But just imagine how cool and interesting that would be? Also I see Dream Eaters as some type of Pokémon. I’m getting Pokémon vibes!❤
The worst memory I had is when I was fighting the Black hooded Nightmare with Riku and I was about to beat him and right before I got that last hit on him it Drooped me (switched) me to Sora! I didn't have a don't drop me now 😢 and then I had to redo that whole fight with Riku again lol but I loved the storyline it had with Riku
Ikr,i think that Dream Drop Distance have gotten distant(yes I said) from the nowdays plot of Kingdom Hearts(besides Melody of Memories touch on the Dream thing and there'x Union Cross),this game fells like a DLC
I don't mind the concept of switching between Riku and Sora. but I wish it was more you complete the level as Sora then you complete the level as Riku.
Wait, what happened to the Dream Eaters being the Dandelions? Anybody still concerned about that? I am.
I think that having the TWEWY characters in the game makes more sense because KH treats dead worlds as "sleeping worlds" and characters from a franchise about the afterlife are the best fit for the crossover. Plus, it opens the door for story development should it be revealed that TWEWY Shibuya is part of Quadratum, moreso likely a part of Quadratum's past than its present. The Nameless Star existing in The Final World could have been used as a conduit for Josh to bring Neku et al over to Traverse Town for a special round of the Composer's Game.
Then there's the very nature of Traverse Town that needs to be taken into consideration. Unlike every other world in the Reality side of KH, Traverse Town exists solely as a haven for those hearts strong enough to withstand their home world falling into Darkness. When Sora restored the worlds in KH1, Traverse Town was no longer accessible. Therefore, it could be said that Traverse Town is a world whose default state is asleep and emerges in the waking world when needed. That makes it seem like the rough equivalent of the UG for Kingdom Hearts. The reason why Merlin was able to retrieve Pooh's book after the fact is that Merlin is a powerful magic user on the same levels as Fairy Godmother and Yen Sid. If Fairy Godmother is capable of traveling to The Final World at will and Yen Sid knows the power of waking (how can you otherwise justifiably base a Mark of Mastery exam on a power you don't possess yourself?), then it stands to reason that Merlin briefly traveling to Traverse Town in its sleeping state isn't out of the realm of feasibility.
Yeah because my fan theory is in the secret reports for neo the world ends with you dimensions to sumi's brother being dead like erased out of existence because they are the conductor of Shinjuku in my theory is what if in the Kingdom hearts timeline to sue me died but her bother survived and it makes sense considering the fact that Kingdom hearts is really the only reason we can meet a character and for other times a character is mentioned in the secret reports we already know that character and we saw them so I think that character is probably yorzo
Great video👌🏼
The dinosaur Dream Eaters are my favorites.
So Joshua was there to be Mr Exposition
Can I also point out Sora made a promise to Joshua and Shiki and Neku to visit Shibuya. Refrence to the secret ending to KH3?!! Reconnect Kingdom Hearts
I wonder what caused namora to use the dream eaters as the basis for the sleeping keyblade wielders in Union Cross because back then it didn't sound like namora had that planned for them🤔
Maybe they did that so you would question why sora is even able to summon dream eaters in kh3 also the scene where they all flock to embrace sora to add significance because he was almost turned into a vessel and the dream eaters where happy that sora survived to come see them because dream eaters are guardians maybe that's how he summoned ephamere and the other key blades i saw the attack like a light equivalent of what master Nort and venitas where already capable of doing.
Prodigy I have a confusing question in Union cross is the Spirit we all get a dead player who lost their hearts and became a dreameater for all of us to use or no?
No those were created by the new Union Leaders to keep the past away from the keyblade wielders that survived.
It's oddly kind of funny the dream eaters Dream Drop Distance also have a really interesting resemblance to the noise from the world ends with you oh when I first played the game back next years ago I actually thought that maybe it was a sequel to the world ends with you in development the dream eaters also have a resemblance to this weird Disney jrpg that's squared doesn't have any involvement with called spectrobes actually really underrated especially with how some of the dream eaters work and if you're ever curious there three spectrobes games 2 for the Nintendo DS and one for the Wii which is the best one
And if I'm being honest this is one of the few times where I actually don't really miss the Final Fantasy characters were think they should have been in the game I think that at some point it would have been a good idea to actually have them in there but not the Traverse Town characters honestly being there so many final fantasy characters nomura has designed for that I definitely think it'd be nice to see more fresh faces not just from Final Fantasy but from other Square Enix franchises and so it was kind of refreshing to see some different Square Enix acknowledgement I know that there was some fake rumor that lightning was going to be in the game and honestly that's the one Final Fantasy character I could probably go without but at the same time I think she be best for something like Olympus Coliseum as I think she'd thematically fit there plus her Gladiator uniform from Final Fantasy XIII-2 she definitely fit in something more like that I remember hearing about Olympus this going to be in Dream Drop Distance but honestly they have used that world so much that I'm kind of glad that it isn't entering drop another thing I noticed is a lot of the titles used in Dream Drop Distance weren't necessarily Financial successes for Disney if I remember correctly Tron legacy actually bombed at the box office which is really sad since that movie is f****** great not only that but Hunchback didn't necessarily do too well believe it or not Fantasia actually wasn't that successful when it came out the Musketeers world is just a straight-up straight-to-dvd film and so continuous with the other worlds featured except for maybe Pinocchio and even we wasn't really that successful the world ends with you wasn't really that successful at least domestically in Japan 4 Square Enix so as that whole cult classic vibe to it it's one of the things I've come to appreciate about Dream Drop Distance it's still one of the Lesser games to me but only because of Soros story as it really isn't that interesting and if I'm being honest I think we could go for an entire Kingdom Hearts game that follows either Riku or Kyrie that doesn't really follow Sora and I mean it totally worked out with say a Birth by Sleep and even both Union Cross and dark Road hell days as well help I'd totally be down for a Kingdom Hearts game that has has Mickey and Leon or Squall as the main two lead characters with Donald and Goofy well they investigate whatever because if I'm being quite honest I I think Surah has perhaps a bit too much screen time and the other side characters definitely need more and I don't really like Kingdom Hearts version of Mickey because he's kind of a jerk granted Mickey could be a jerk in his own original cartoons but really Kingdom Hearts Mickey is f****** frustrating plus he has technically been playable in a few Kingdom Hearts games and it'd be a quick way to make something for the series and give us both more Disney and Final Fantasy stuff at the same time for fans who want both and it could just help us as the wait for the next Kingdom Hearts number game is on the way however I do kind of want that Kyrie game more honestly I think she is very much over hated and is somewhat misunderstood not to the degree Tara is but Kyrie wasn't necessarily needed until the recent portions of the series and I'd be totally down with a Dream Drop Distance or Birth by Sleep styled Kingdom Hearts game that follows Sora kairi and Riku I don't know it just be really cool and now square has more than at least four teams working on these games from what I remember so the more Kingdom Hearts games the better especially since he can be pretty interesting and I think the Osaka team kind of needs a break I kind of miss the Old Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 Team might like to see them come back and I think that Dream Drop Distance is perhaps a bit overheated but I've always assumed that's because of the Sora half of the story because if you take most of saurus stuff out or make it a separate game and just make riku's portion of the story its own thing it is one of the best games and one of the best stories in the series and yeah I know we'll get some hay from that but it is kind of true at least from a character development point of view even if you think the writing in Kingdom Hearts as bad which I'm sorry it really isn't it's actually really good quite misunderstood but it is good even surpassing some of final fantasies best written stories you cannot deny that Riku is probably the best written character in the series next to perhaps Roxas and aqua I might even argues and Hortons than this because they're writing definitely goes hard and there's not really too much of xemnas.
Funny thing about Spectrobes, while Square Enix was never involved in the series, the first two games on the DS were developed by Jupiter, who co-developed Chain of Memories on the GBA and The World Ends With You on DS with Square Enix.